Thanks Rich and Bill ( fellow Ambassador ) Hey Bill I was at the same Aptera event … I’m with you about “ that flashy vehicle” ! Matte silver, although my preferred white, may keep at a safe color glow as it is trickle charging in the sun…but still a “ head turner “. Re Sentry Mode For what its worth…My Tesla friends ⚠️tell stories of the battery draw with Sentry mode activated! 😞”+ ON!”
Because Aptera os using the Yoke wheel I wish they were using steer by wire. I love almost everything about the Aptera. This os my biggest critique. My 2nd one is the non-existent buttons. I love having tech in the car but a handful of buttons and dials for some features is a more user friendly design. None of these critiques are deal breakers. No car is perfect. They are just a couple of things that I don't love. It won't stop me from buying one.
Thanks for watching My Aptera Journey. I agree with both your points; steer-by-wire and buttons. Steer-by-wire ‘could’ save Aptera money. Maybe? With in-wheel could they not eliminate connecting rods? I also like a mix of tactical buttons and screens. Especially for HVAC, wipers, turn signals, etc. AND a big screen for other things. I’m very happy with that mix in the Polstar 2, Bolt EV, Mustang, etc. Mono screen everything is obvious; cost-cutting. And I don’t like it. Charge on!
Statistically speaking families with two cars where one is considered a commuter car always buy one capable of doing full duty. two seat vehicles sell in very low volumes outside of pickup trucks. even four seat two cars outsell their two seat counterparts for that very same reason. if Aptera came in under the price of traditional evs by a significant amount, as in the LE should be 25k, they might garner some extra sales but at similar price points its a very niche and a rich persons toy.
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey. Some great comments, thank you. Two seaters are certainly a smaller fraction of vehicles sold today, no doubt. With increasing attention to greater efficiency and cost effectiveness (read: reasonable price), that segment may be poised to grow. Aptera’s planing for up to 10,000 to 20,000 units a year seems appropriate. Moreover, that scale offers a great financial platform for profitability. Charge on!
Thanks for watching! My lovely wife suggested the genesis of this video, give folks an insight into who you are, in addition to the interview of both Chris(s). Aptera Motors says; YES WE ARE GETTING SENTRY MODE.
I am about at 1200 in the Accelerator list. I wonder if OpenPilot will be installed as I may not get my launch edition until a few months into production and I have selected it as an option I wanted in my launch edition.
I hope a Sentry Mode and OpenPilot can be integrated by the time we pick up our Aptera and drive it cross-country home! It doesn't sound very likely, but those two features would be very helpful for that long trip. Thank you Rich and Bill.
Sentry Mode, if it’s not available out of the box, would likely be over the air update. Open pilot will be hardwired so you can install yourself if it’s not available from the factory on day one.
@@Rich1Rodriguez While it is true that Aptera will be able to update software over the air, I don't believe they are planning for integrated Sentry Mode cameras. Chris Anthony has also recently said that Sentry Mode is way down the priority list too..... bummer. We will know better as we reach production, but I am counting on the OpenPilot wiring and mount being ready so we can bring a unit with us if need be!
@@Fairburne69 Sentry Mode is Tesla's term for an alarm system, but it's the deluxe version on steroids, if you will. When anything approaches the car, cameras record, warnings are given, and notifications are sent to your phone. Aptera will be such an eye catcher, that it would be nice to have a version of this in place from the beginning.
We installed an induction stove about 3 years ago and are very happy. It heats food more rapidly with gas so I am pretty sure it is much more efficient than gas.
When I met my future wife-to-be about four years ago, she said she loves her gas (methane) stove. (I moved into her methane based home... after I converted my home to 100% electric and solar). I thought it would be a hopeless case of trying to pry the methane stove out of her hands. So, I picked up a tabletop single cooker induction unit on Craigslist Why not? It was inexpensive, and I considered it an 'experiment.' Result? She loves it. Easy to modulate, less heat for the cook, and quick. I was shocked, really. The experiment worked. I told her again, today, I would buy her a nice induction stove... once we get the methane heat out. Change starts at home.... Charge on!
Should be this week, Its in post now. That always takes longer than script and shoot!). AND I may do a short AND I'd like to get another long format out this month. Lot's going on at Aptera Motors.
The PROBLEM for Aptera is that the vehicle is is a very very very niche product. It is not a mainstream vehicle. They will not sell hundreds of thousands let along a million of them. They still have no production facility , no money for all the buildings , machines, employee wages. And no one is going to give them the money because Aptera is a niche vehicle. not a Real car, one you can load up te famiy and go on vacation. Yes the Suadis may throw ome money at them short term but the Suadis have proven over and over and over again they have more money than brains which is why I am assuming Aptera went to them, because no REAL Investors are going to risk thier money on this project to build a couple thousand Apteras a year. Who in their right mind would pay 35k for a 3 wheel trike when they can get a real car EV for 35k ? so those that think this is real.. where is the Production plant? how many sq ft , are all of the robots , welders, cnc all the machinining in place ? Are all the venders in place ? How many unites can they produce a day ? What are the cost vs the margins, how long before profitability ? Does Aptera have the money to make it to profitability ? This is where they started giving you the gooblede gook and can never give you staright answers and if they do you give you straight answer you start to realize ..ummm 12 months ? 18 months how long before bankruptcy. How long before the Suadis get thier hands ona few new toys nd then the money stops .
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey video and for your thoughtful comments. While I won’t take the time at address all your questions, though I do appreciate them, I will make a few comments. Most all startups are faced with a common dilemma; capital to bring your vision to market. On market size / opportunity, as it turns out that will be the subject of my next video, so stay tuned. Charge on!
Did anyone from the electric vehicle association check the solar output in watts on the dashboard display, did anyone check the wh/mile on the dashboard display? Seems these two very basic quantities which are monitored on the dashboard display are quite important in verifying apteras claims. Aptera has never purposefully shown the data in videos, but it has been picked up in a few test drive videos. It would seem to me that verifying their claims is extremely important. You two guys are very intelligent but why not trying to verifying apteras claims? Its so easy to check this data why doesn't anyone do it? Its on the dashboard display!!!!!! You have to select the correct page on the screen, for heavens sack someone check the data.
Thanks for viewing My Aptera Journey. I know they’ve done a lot of rooftop testing with models so they know what they’re talking about. I’m sure we’ll see test data before too long. Charge on!
Hope you are well, Bruce. I was nearly dumbstruct when I learned of Bill's background. So many parallels... engineers pushing the envelope. All the Best! = Rich =
I am glad they are incorporating a Sentry Mode. It would be nice if they also provided an external solar panel array to NACS plug converter, it would make it easy. If none exists, I may look into making this myself.
I understand there will be a way to add external DC power via a solar panel. I think the solar inverted has about 1,500 W of capacity, while the build in cells are about 700 W. So, yes. How will that work? TBD. Charge on!
I am not too worried about Aptera being broken into or stolen for a while, as any act like this will be obvious and stolen Apteras should stand out like a sore thumb.
They will be stolen and stripped of their hub motors. Motors can be repurposed for many things. I just hope they are not that easy to remove. Those motors are the "car".
Thanks for viewing My Aptera Journey. The valet mode is a good idea. With 0-60 mph acceleration time of ~ 4 seconds, it could well be a safety feature! Charge on!
Not a real car and they will be broke before any real production begins, only a handful of people will buy one as a vehicle to get around the rest because they think it's cool. There simply isnt any market for this type of ummm vehicle . Who in their right mind would spend between $25,900 to $46,000+ ~ depending on the range and options for an Aptera when they could get a Chevy Bolt, ID 4, Tyota BZX , Nissan Aryia , Tesla Model 3 or Y , Chevy Equinox , Chevy Blazer on and on ..real cars Vs the Aptera a kit car. Where are they going to come up with the money to build these? Private money lol.. Go Public? I never short companies but theres always a first . I want to wish them well but they are at least a dacade behind reality. If they were producing these 10-15 years ago, yeah that would have been fun and cool and by now they would be producing 1 maybe 2 real cars. Bottom line aptera is nothing more than asegway ..fun, got some news and then reality set in and they went bankrupt
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey, and thank you for your comments. As a rule, I try to only answer questions that have a question at the end of them. There are many sources of private and public funding for Aptera Motors. In my most recent video that this comment is under, I mentioned syndicating a regulation D private placement offering there are other options as well, and as you pointed out an IPO will likely be one of them. Charge on!
Your negative-nancy opinion would be better served up in your own youtube video, not a pro-Aptera vid like this one. Most if not 99.9% of those who watch these are very enthusiastic and excited about the design, development and progress toward large scale manufacturing of this amazing vehicle. If we wanted any of those 'old tech/stuck concept' vehicles like you mentioned, I'm sure we would be purchasing or looking into one or more. I prefer to focus on the future even if not 'fully-baked' yet, but that's how it always is, now isn't it?
@@rchender The reason is so people think twice before they start putting money in when it goes public. Aptera needs manufacturing and the 100's of millions that goes into that . What happens is that small investors put all the money in with all the big shots saying what a great product it is , how it's going to revoluntonize the EV market etc.. Then after they have been public for a year they run out of money a doa reverse spilt , and another reverse split and those early investors now holding nothing but a lot of worthless stock as all teh big wigs have linned thier pockets with millions for a few years .. Apteria has NOTHING of Value ..Nothing there is nothing tangible of real value . and the Product is a nothing more than Segway part 2
Go back 10-15 years and just add the word "Tesla" to your comments in place of "Aptera" and the same opinion was being voiced by analysts, die hard petrol fans and the legacy automakers...now they are all catching up and wondering how they got it so wrong. I have owned a lot of those real cars and am very happy not to be driving them anymore. And judging by the enthusiasm for this car both in the US and overseas, I think Aptera will do very well...but we will all just have to see.
In what way is it "not a real car" The very first vehicle that received the name "car" (short for carraige) was a three wheeler. Aptera is not a kit car, and as it has developed, the body has left the original similarity far behind. Once people have a chance to ride in one, the attitude is going to change. Every vehicle you mention in your list is going to cost several times as much to own and drive as an Aptera. For those whose needs it will meet, the choice is a no brainer. The 0-60 4 second acceleration of the LE edition Apterae is better than the original Tesla Roadster, and they don't break the transmission, which they don't even have. Most of us here base our opinions on actual experience with prototypes. I worked across the street from Tesla in 2008, and it was a relative disaster in comparison, especially in terms of financial management.
Thanks Rich and Bill ( fellow Ambassador )
Hey Bill I was at the same Aptera event …
I’m with you about “ that flashy vehicle” !
Matte silver, although my preferred white, may keep at a safe color glow as it is trickle charging in the sun…but still a “ head turner “. Re Sentry Mode
For what its worth…My Tesla friends ⚠️tell stories of the battery draw with Sentry mode activated! 😞”+ ON!”
Thanks for your comments and viewing My Aptera Journey.
Charge on!
Because Aptera os using the Yoke wheel I wish they were using steer by wire.
I love almost everything about the Aptera. This os my biggest critique. My 2nd one is the non-existent buttons. I love having tech in the car but a handful of buttons and dials for some features is a more user friendly design.
None of these critiques are deal breakers. No car is perfect. They are just a couple of things that I don't love. It won't stop me from buying one.
Thanks for watching My Aptera Journey. I agree with both your points; steer-by-wire and buttons.
Steer-by-wire ‘could’ save Aptera money. Maybe? With in-wheel could they not eliminate connecting rods?
I also like a mix of tactical buttons and screens. Especially for HVAC, wipers, turn signals, etc. AND a big screen for other things.
I’m very happy with that mix in the Polstar 2, Bolt EV, Mustang, etc.
Mono screen everything is obvious; cost-cutting. And I don’t like it.
Charge on!
Statistically speaking families with two cars where one is considered a commuter car always buy one capable of doing full duty. two seat vehicles sell in very low volumes outside of pickup trucks.
even four seat two cars outsell their two seat counterparts for that very same reason. if Aptera came in under the price of traditional evs by a significant amount, as in the LE should be 25k, they might garner some extra sales but at similar price points its a very niche and a rich persons toy.
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey. Some great comments, thank you.
Two seaters are certainly a smaller fraction of vehicles sold today, no doubt.
With increasing attention to greater efficiency and cost effectiveness (read: reasonable price), that segment may be poised to grow. Aptera’s planing for up to 10,000 to 20,000 units a year seems appropriate. Moreover, that scale offers a great financial platform for profitability.
Charge on!
Love the opening song!
Me too. Orlando’s “Ode to Aptera” is awesome!
I have worked in hitech for 45 years or more. Done some R&D. Background is Physics and Math. Used to be a tech advisor to DARPA.
You’re a technology person, like many of us.
Insightful… we are.
Good for telling us a bit about yourselves. You didn't answer your question about whether Aptera will have a sentry mode.
Thanks for watching! My lovely wife suggested the genesis of this video, give folks an insight into who you are, in addition to the interview of both Chris(s).
Aptera Motors says; YES WE ARE GETTING SENTRY MODE.
@@Rich1Rodriguez A sentry mode must be an improvement. It wasn't in the original plan to the best of my knowledge.
I was under the impression that a Sentry Mode draws too much power to make it practical for use with the 45 Kwh battery.
I am about at 1200 in the Accelerator list. I wonder if OpenPilot will be installed as I may not get my launch edition until a few months into production and I have selected it as an option I wanted in my launch edition.
Thanks for viewing My Aptera Journey. I am about 600 on Accelerator list. I'm sure I'll get Open Pilot. So will you.
Charge on!
I hope a Sentry Mode and OpenPilot can be integrated by the time we pick up our Aptera and drive it cross-country home! It doesn't sound very likely, but those two features would be very helpful for that long trip. Thank you Rich and Bill.
Sentry Mode, if it’s not available out of the box, would likely be over the air update.
Open pilot will be hardwired so you can install yourself if it’s not available from the factory on day one.
@@Rich1Rodriguez While it is true that Aptera will be able to update software over the air, I don't believe they are planning for integrated Sentry Mode cameras. Chris Anthony has also recently said that Sentry Mode is way down the priority list too..... bummer. We will know better as we reach production, but I am counting on the OpenPilot wiring and mount being ready so we can bring a unit with us if need be!
@@DemaGeekWhat is "Sentry Mode" I'm not familiar with that term.
@@Fairburne69 Sentry Mode is Tesla's term for an alarm system, but it's the deluxe version on steroids, if you will. When anything approaches the car, cameras record, warnings are given, and notifications are sent to your phone. Aptera will be such an eye catcher, that it would be nice to have a version of this in place from the beginning.
@@DemaGeek Thanks!
@rich1rodriguez did you say you were in Atlanta?
Hi Lander. I am in Portland Oregon area.
Bill’s of Chasing Aptera channel, is based in Atlanta area.
Charge on!
We installed an induction stove about 3 years ago and are very happy. It heats food more rapidly with gas so I am pretty sure it is much more efficient than gas.
When I met my future wife-to-be about four years ago, she said she loves her gas (methane) stove. (I moved into her methane based home... after I converted my home to 100% electric and solar).
I thought it would be a hopeless case of trying to pry the methane stove out of her hands. So, I picked up a tabletop single cooker induction unit on Craigslist Why not? It was inexpensive, and I considered it an 'experiment.'
Result?
She loves it. Easy to modulate, less heat for the cook, and quick.
I was shocked, really. The experiment worked.
I told her again, today, I would buy her a nice induction stove... once we get the methane heat out.
Change starts at home....
Charge on!
@@Rich1Rodriguez
You are a hero
When is your next video coming out, Rich?
Should be this week, Its in post now. That always takes longer than script and shoot!).
AND I may do a short AND I'd like to get another long format out this month. Lot's going on at Aptera Motors.
The PROBLEM for Aptera is that the vehicle is is a very very very niche product. It is not a mainstream vehicle. They will not sell hundreds of thousands let along a million of them. They still have no production facility , no money for all the buildings , machines, employee wages. And no one is going to give them the money because Aptera is a niche vehicle. not a Real car, one you can load up te famiy and go on vacation. Yes the Suadis may throw ome money at them short term but the Suadis have proven over and over and over again they have more money than brains which is why I am assuming Aptera went to them, because no REAL Investors are going to risk thier money on this project to build a couple thousand Apteras a year.
Who in their right mind would pay 35k for a 3 wheel trike when they can get a real car EV for 35k ?
so those that think this is real.. where is the Production plant? how many sq ft , are all of the robots , welders, cnc all the machinining in place ? Are all the venders in place ? How many unites can they produce a day ? What are the cost vs the margins, how long before profitability ? Does Aptera have the money to make it to profitability ?
This is where they started giving you the gooblede gook and can never give you staright answers and if they do you give you straight answer you start to realize ..ummm 12 months ? 18 months how long before bankruptcy. How long before the Suadis get thier hands ona few new toys nd then the money stops .
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey video and for your thoughtful comments.
While I won’t take the time at address all your questions, though I do appreciate them, I will make a few comments.
Most all startups are faced with a common dilemma; capital to bring your vision to market.
On market size / opportunity, as it turns out that will be the subject of my next video, so stay tuned.
Charge on!
You remind me of the old guys in the theatre stalls on the Muppets.
Thank you for watching My Aptera Journey. What a cute parallel
well the Muppets!.
Charge on!
Did anyone from the electric vehicle association check the solar output in watts on the dashboard display, did anyone check the wh/mile on the dashboard display?
Seems these two very basic quantities which are monitored on the dashboard display are quite important in verifying apteras claims. Aptera has never purposefully shown the data in videos, but it has been picked up in a few test drive videos. It would seem to me that verifying their claims is extremely important. You two guys are very intelligent but why not trying to verifying apteras claims? Its so easy to check this data why doesn't anyone do it?
Its on the dashboard display!!!!!! You have to select the correct page on the screen, for heavens sack someone check the data.
Thanks for viewing My Aptera Journey. I know they’ve done a lot of rooftop testing with models so they know what they’re talking about. I’m sure we’ll see test data before too long.
Charge on!
I love hearing a bit both your backgrounds Some of both your stories sound very familiar! It is a common trait of Aptera supporters.
Hope you are well, Bruce.
I was nearly dumbstruct when I learned of Bill's background. So many parallels... engineers pushing the envelope.
All the Best!
= Rich =
All Aptera fans have some sort of same background
I am glad they are incorporating a Sentry Mode. It would be nice if they also provided an external solar panel array to NACS plug converter, it would make it easy. If none exists, I may look into making this myself.
I understand there will be a way to add external DC power via a solar panel. I think the solar inverted has about 1,500 W of capacity, while the build in cells are about 700 W. So, yes. How will that work? TBD.
Charge on!
I am not too worried about Aptera being broken into or stolen for a while, as any act like this will be obvious and stolen Apteras should stand out like a sore thumb.
They will be stolen and stripped of their hub motors. Motors can be repurposed for many things. I just hope they are not that easy to remove. Those motors are the "car".
That’s why I would like Aptera default to a 15 mph valet type speed that you override with a security code.
Thanks for viewing My Aptera Journey. The valet mode is a good idea. With 0-60 mph acceleration time of ~ 4 seconds, it could well be a safety feature!
Charge on!
A interview about interview
Yes. Thank you for watching My Aptera journey.
An interview about an interview and an interview. Interspersed with commentary and insights.
Charge on!
Not a real car and they will be broke before any real production begins, only a handful of people will buy one as a vehicle to get around the rest because they think it's cool. There simply isnt any market for this type of ummm vehicle . Who in their right mind would spend between $25,900 to $46,000+ ~ depending on the range and options for an Aptera when they could get a Chevy Bolt, ID 4, Tyota BZX , Nissan Aryia , Tesla Model 3 or Y , Chevy Equinox , Chevy Blazer on and on ..real cars Vs the Aptera a kit car.
Where are they going to come up with the money to build these? Private money lol.. Go Public? I never short companies but theres always a first . I want to wish them well but they are at least a dacade behind reality. If they were producing these 10-15 years ago, yeah that would have been fun and cool and by now they would be producing 1 maybe 2 real cars.
Bottom line aptera is nothing more than asegway ..fun, got some news and then reality set in and they went bankrupt
Thank you for viewing My Aptera Journey, and thank you for your comments.
As a rule, I try to only answer questions that have a question at the end of them.
There are many sources of private and public funding for Aptera Motors. In my most recent video that this comment is under, I mentioned syndicating a regulation D private placement offering there are other options as well, and as you pointed out an IPO will likely be one of them.
Charge on!
Your negative-nancy opinion would be better served up in your own youtube video, not a pro-Aptera vid like this one. Most if not 99.9% of those who watch these are very enthusiastic and excited about the design, development and progress toward large scale manufacturing of this amazing vehicle. If we wanted any of those 'old tech/stuck concept' vehicles like you mentioned, I'm sure we would be purchasing or looking into one or more. I prefer to focus on the future even if not 'fully-baked' yet, but that's how it always is, now isn't it?
@@rchender The reason is so people think twice before they start putting money in when it goes public. Aptera needs manufacturing and the 100's of millions that goes into that .
What happens is that small investors put all the money in with all the big shots saying what a great product it is , how it's going to revoluntonize the EV market etc..
Then after they have been public for a year they run out of money a doa reverse spilt , and another reverse split and those early investors now holding nothing but a lot of worthless stock as all teh big wigs have linned thier pockets with millions for a few years ..
Apteria has NOTHING of Value ..Nothing there is nothing tangible of real value . and the Product is a nothing more than Segway part 2
Go back 10-15 years and just add the word "Tesla" to your comments in place of "Aptera" and the same opinion was being voiced by analysts, die hard petrol fans and the legacy automakers...now they are all catching up and wondering how they got it so wrong. I have owned a lot of those real cars and am very happy not to be driving them anymore. And judging by the enthusiasm for this car both in the US and overseas, I think Aptera will do very well...but we will all just have to see.
In what way is it "not a real car" The very first vehicle that received the name "car" (short for carraige) was a three wheeler. Aptera is not a kit car, and as it has developed, the body has left the original similarity far behind.
Once people have a chance to ride in one, the attitude is going to change. Every vehicle you mention in your list is going to cost several times as much to own and drive as an Aptera. For those whose needs it will meet, the choice is a no brainer. The 0-60 4 second acceleration of the LE edition Apterae is better than the original Tesla Roadster, and they don't break the transmission, which they don't even have.
Most of us here base our opinions on actual experience with prototypes. I worked across the street from Tesla in 2008, and it was a relative disaster in comparison, especially in terms of financial management.