I'm not saying hardwired isn't faster, but Starlink varies greatly from one minute to the next. You should run averages and have the test as close to each other (time wise) as possible.
Hey Kevin, Good question and a good point to pull out. The router is where a network firewall would be placed, otherwise you're only using your devices firewall, that is providing your device has a firewall and it is activated. Placing the router out on the desk eliminated our routers firewall from protecting our x-box in this video, that leaves it open for malware attacks. It is better practice and recommended to place your router with firewall at the beginning of your network. If your device has a firewall as well then your 2 firewalls deep and that means double the protection which is a good thing these days. Ideally you would have 2 cables fed to your router. Using one to feed back to your gateway of your home (Usually the mechanical room). Thank you for pointing this out.
The Starlink access point has no features other than very basic wifi You can bypass Starlink directly and plug the white Cat6a cable into your router of choices Wan port. Set your router to get DHCP automatically if not already set. Customer support actually suggests customers use their own routers. I use a Dream machine pro and Uap-AC 6 lite as my access point.
I was under the impression that you need to connect from Dishy to the router (Starlink or otherwise), then to a switch or whatever other equipment you have in your setup. Have you tested that standard configuration compared to what you show in this video going from Dishy to PoE switch to router? Does it matter as long as it gets PoE?
Hey Jeff, you're right it's better to put the router before the network switch to utilize the firewall that is built into the router for protecting your network. We had it backwards in the video, it will work fine as you seen but not ideal. We've since set it up with the router first and then our switch and it is working great. The Starlink router does require PoE and can't be used off a non POE Network Switch, unless it is a PoE passthrough managed switch. But in light of the firewall a person really should keep everything behind the router to stay protected. i hope this helps, thank you for your question!
Hello Diego, sorry for the late reply. We have been testing multiple routers including meshing ones. There are better after market routers then the one Starlink comes with that is for sure, and you can use them on Starlink's system. The meshing routers we've tested certainly work better then most standalones for large spaces. But none are able to beat hardwired connections consistently, That being said there pretty darn close and a lot of users might not even notice any difference in the performance of the system. But there's still no replacement better then a hardwired connection when possible, and this goes for every service provider across the board, even more so if your provider delivers poor speeds then it almost becomes mandatory just to keep your own sanity:) Thank you for the comment.
Not sure why your hard wired speeds are different between devices unless Starlink was different. I have a 48 port Switch setup in my house and the hard wire speeds are the same everywhere. At the speeds Starlink is running you are not close to the switch speed limit so everything attached to the switch should get the same download seeds unless their is a problem with your network, what Starlink was giving, or the end device is limiting the speed.
For sure, those are good insights. there are many variables that could affect the speeds (including the speed test app itself). What we were trying to point out is the differences between hardwired and wireless stability and speeds. We have seen some fluctuation in our download speeds even when hardwired. That seems to be the case with our Starlink system though as they aren't selling customers a guaranteed set speed package (also on the Beta program during this video). More of a one size fits all.. Thank you for your comment Jay Cahow. Just curious what kind of speeds have you been seeing?
@@AllMediaServices1 I do not have Starlink yet, I currently use Comcast Cable and get about 700 Mb at all my wired machines. I thought about Starlink as a backup but I am waiting for higher speeds.
Hello William, yes you can as long as long as only one router controls the network, so the 2nd router would have to be in bridge mode. Not all routers do this so you would have to check into the routers being used.
Can you or anyone else please help to clarify the following? I placed an order for the StarLink, and now I am concerned after reading a couple of reports. The reports say that, with the StarLink, any internet-based security cameras can no longer be viewed through the apps. To me, internet is internet, whether it is from StarLink or from cable company. Just do not understand why the internet-based security cameras and the internet-based apps will no longer work under StarLink. Could someone please let me know if that is really the case? If that is true, then I am really wasting my money for purchasing (or ordering) the StarLink. Thanks.
Hey Nasty Hertfordshire, well your concern is real but there is a easy answer. The problem is in Starlink's router, they haven't granted permission to access the admin pages to set-up the ports. These are needed for some security systems to have functionality. That being said there are a few solutions that are very easy. The first is to use your existing router with the Starlink system, everything is already programmed to it and all you have to do is use the Starlink router on the initial set-up, once its up and running and working fine, you can unplug Starlink's router and put in your existing one in it's place.(We have a video coming out for this) Some security systems don't require port management to be set-up and have a separate server that you access your videos from. These systems work fine with the Starlink system. They're some more complex security systems that require a static IP address but these are usually on commercial sites and older legacy surveillance equipment that the picture is such low resolution that barely anybody uses them anymore. I've used Ezviz, Ubiquity, Swan, Blink to name a few and all the systems worked fine. So the question I would ask is what kind of security system are you running? and what does it require to operate for remote viewing. If you let me know the make and the model number I'll take look at it for you and let you know it's compatibility. Thank you for commenting! I hope to hear back from you soon.
Also I have starlink and my Wifi router out does your hardline, plus starlink isn't fully stable, and you have nothing protecting your network from people on the other end with just that switch, if you going that route you be better going with a Pfsense and then adding mesh router in ap mode
And I would also like to add that there seems to be no customer service in Australia. I have submitted 2 tickets and got 0 response in 2 weeks. I am sending it back for a refund.
Hey John Jaco, well that doesn’t sound good! I would recommend contacting Starlink via there app and let them know. There is a lot of places to start, but number one for me would be checking the statistics in the app. Look at the snr and ping times to see what kind of connection you have. If there is degraded signals there then I would be checking Dishy McFlatface to see if you have any obstructions. Trees are a big one, and being to close to structures. Next I would hardwire a computer directly to the router and check connection there by running speed tests and watching for drops, if there still there on the hardwired connection then bypass the router and go directly to the white connection on the brick(transformer) and test speeds there. You should be able to pinpoint down the problem using these steps. I’ve spoken with a lot of Starlink customer and help set-up a few already and everyone so far has been very positive. But as with all technology, there is no guarantee that it will work for everybody. Check out our 56GB download video to see how to read the statistics on your Starlink system. Thank you for sharing, good luck!
@@jaycahow4667 Yes you are right in theory but even most Cat5 does work with 1Gbit since it supports 100MHz signals. But I guess all Cat5 for sale now is the "e" variant since the standard came in 2001. If you use Cat5 for gigabit then it may be more prone to EMC as the shielding is not as good as Cat5e.
@@la7dfa Actually I wired my entire house long ago with Cat5 before Cat5e was even out. As you say I have never had a problem getting 1 Gbit speeds. I have boxes of Cat6a cable setting here but I wonder if I will ever install it and replace the Cat5. Some of my switches now handle 10Gb speeds and it would be nice to the Cat6a running everywhere.
@@la7dfa im getting 23ms lat 214 down 19 up. I changed the MTU file size on my router. With ax i have the option for Link aggregation but i need a modem and or upgrade my ethernet card to handle it. The AX5700 RT AX86U is where its at since its on 802.11ax vs slower 802.11ac
We just received our starlink and I had to order an ethernet adapter for it to be able to hard wire. Thanks for the video very helpful.
I'm not saying hardwired isn't faster, but Starlink varies greatly from one minute to the next. You should run averages and have the test as close to each other (time wise) as possible.
What about security? No firewall?
Hey Kevin, Good question and a good point to pull out. The router is where a network firewall would be placed, otherwise you're only using your devices firewall, that is providing your device has a firewall and it is activated. Placing the router out on the desk eliminated our routers firewall from protecting our x-box in this video, that leaves it open for malware attacks. It is better practice and recommended to place your router with firewall at the beginning of your network. If your device has a firewall as well then your 2 firewalls deep and that means double the protection which is a good thing these days. Ideally you would have 2 cables fed to your router. Using one to feed back to your gateway of your home (Usually the mechanical room). Thank you for pointing this out.
The Starlink access point has no features other than very basic wifi
You can bypass Starlink directly and plug the white Cat6a cable into your router of choices Wan port.
Set your router to get DHCP automatically if not already set.
Customer support actually suggests customers use their own routers.
I use a Dream machine pro and Uap-AC 6 lite as my access point.
Incase anyone's wondering the poe you can use is 802 3AF.
Try increasing MTU on your console to 1500
Would love to see some videos with the gen 2 Starlink with the separate Ethernet connector
Hey Ken, we have 2 systems we’re installing soon! Hopefully we get a Gen 2 so we can get some more testing on these systems:)
I was under the impression that you need to connect from Dishy to the router (Starlink or otherwise), then to a switch or whatever other equipment you have in your setup. Have you tested that standard configuration compared to what you show in this video going from Dishy to PoE switch to router? Does it matter as long as it gets PoE?
Hey Jeff, you're right it's better to put the router before the network switch to utilize the firewall that is built into the router for protecting your network. We had it backwards in the video, it will work fine as you seen but not ideal. We've since set it up with the router first and then our switch and it is working great. The Starlink router does require PoE and can't be used off a non POE Network Switch, unless it is a PoE passthrough managed switch. But in light of the firewall a person really should keep everything behind the router to stay protected. i hope this helps, thank you for your question!
Have you ever tried using a mesh? Thanks
Hello Diego, sorry for the late reply. We have been testing multiple routers including meshing ones. There are better after market routers then the one Starlink comes with that is for sure, and you can use them on Starlink's system. The meshing routers we've tested certainly work better then most standalones for large spaces. But none are able to beat hardwired connections consistently, That being said there pretty darn close and a lot of users might not even notice any difference in the performance of the system. But there's still no replacement better then a hardwired connection when possible, and this goes for every service provider across the board, even more so if your provider delivers poor speeds then it almost becomes mandatory just to keep your own sanity:) Thank you for the comment.
Not sure why your hard wired speeds are different between devices unless Starlink was different. I have a 48 port Switch setup in my house and the hard wire speeds are the same everywhere. At the speeds Starlink is running you are not close to the switch speed limit so everything attached to the switch should get the same download seeds unless their is a problem with your network, what Starlink was giving, or the end device is limiting the speed.
For sure, those are good insights. there are many variables that could affect the speeds (including the speed test app itself). What we were trying to point out is the differences between hardwired and wireless stability and speeds. We have seen some fluctuation in our download speeds even when hardwired. That seems to be the case with our Starlink system though as they aren't selling customers a guaranteed set speed package (also on the Beta program during this video). More of a one size fits all.. Thank you for your comment Jay Cahow. Just curious what kind of speeds have you been seeing?
@@AllMediaServices1 I do not have Starlink yet, I currently use Comcast Cable and get about 700 Mb at all my wired machines. I thought about Starlink as a backup but I am waiting for higher speeds.
im waiting for my starlink.. i hope i get it
Can you wire two routers to this switch.
Hello William, yes you can as long as long as only one router controls the network, so the 2nd router would have to be in bridge mode. Not all routers do this so you would have to check into the routers being used.
Can you or anyone else please help to clarify the following?
I placed an order for the StarLink, and now I am concerned after reading a couple of reports. The reports say that, with the StarLink, any internet-based security cameras can no longer be viewed through the apps. To me, internet is internet, whether it is from StarLink or from cable company. Just do not understand why the internet-based security cameras and the internet-based apps will no longer work under StarLink.
Could someone please let me know if that is really the case? If that is true, then I am really wasting my money for purchasing (or ordering) the StarLink. Thanks.
Hey Nasty Hertfordshire, well your concern is real but there is a easy answer. The problem is in Starlink's router, they haven't granted permission to access the admin pages to set-up the ports. These are needed for some security systems to have functionality. That being said there are a few solutions that are very easy. The first is to use your existing router with the Starlink system, everything is already programmed to it and all you have to do is use the Starlink router on the initial set-up, once its up and running and working fine, you can unplug Starlink's router and put in your existing one in it's place.(We have a video coming out for this) Some security systems don't require port management to be set-up and have a separate server that you access your videos from. These systems work fine with the Starlink system. They're some more complex security systems that require a static IP address but these are usually on commercial sites and older legacy surveillance equipment that the picture is such low resolution that barely anybody uses them anymore. I've used Ezviz, Ubiquity, Swan, Blink to name a few and all the systems worked fine. So the question I would ask is what kind of security system are you running? and what does it require to operate for remote viewing. If you let me know the make and the model number I'll take look at it for you and let you know it's compatibility. Thank you for commenting! I hope to hear back from you soon.
Could you use a Wi-Fi booster with this system?
Hey Mark, yes you can. We’ve had really good results with D-Link boosters…but I’m sure any of the big name companies equipment will work:)
Also I have starlink and my Wifi router out does your hardline, plus starlink isn't fully stable, and you have nothing protecting your network from people on the other end with just that switch, if you going that route you be better going with a Pfsense and then adding mesh router in ap mode
No ethernet port on the new modem.....silly
Agreed!
And I would also like to add that there seems to be no customer service in Australia. I have submitted 2 tickets and got 0 response in 2 weeks. I am sending it back for a refund.
My internet keeps dropping off.
Hey John Jaco, well that doesn’t sound good! I would recommend contacting Starlink via there app and let them know. There is a lot of places to start, but number one for me would be checking the statistics in the app. Look at the snr and ping times to see what kind of connection you have. If there is degraded signals there then I would be checking Dishy McFlatface to see if you have any obstructions. Trees are a big one, and being to close to structures. Next I would hardwire a computer directly to the router and check connection there by running speed tests and watching for drops, if there still there on the hardwired connection then bypass the router and go directly to the white connection on the brick(transformer) and test speeds there. You should be able to pinpoint down the problem using these steps. I’ve spoken with a lot of Starlink customer and help set-up a few already and everyone so far has been very positive. But as with all technology, there is no guarantee that it will work for everybody. Check out our 56GB download video to see how to read the statistics on your Starlink system. Thank you for sharing, good luck!
I actually hardwire my phone with a Ethernet to USB-C...
LAN cable cat8 would be best for starlink to TV
Cat5 does 1Gbit @ 100m length.
@@la7dfa Ct5E does 1Gb the original CAT5 was 100Mb.
@@jaycahow4667 Yes you are right in theory but even most Cat5 does work with 1Gbit since it supports 100MHz signals. But I guess all Cat5 for sale now is the "e" variant since the standard came in 2001.
If you use Cat5 for gigabit then it may be more prone to EMC as the shielding is not as good as Cat5e.
@@la7dfa Actually I wired my entire house long ago with Cat5 before Cat5e was even out. As you say I have never had a problem getting 1 Gbit speeds. I have boxes of Cat6a cable setting here but I wonder if I will ever install it and replace the Cat5. Some of my switches now handle 10Gb speeds and it would be nice to the Cat6a running everywhere.
yeah 93ms sucks use a ax router
I prefer ISP modem or bridge mode with my own wireless router. Cyber-router is not that great for wifi coverage anyway.
@@la7dfa im getting 23ms lat 214 down 19 up. I changed the MTU file size on my router. With ax i have the option for Link aggregation but i need a modem and or upgrade my ethernet card to handle it.
The AX5700 RT AX86U is where its at since its on 802.11ax vs slower 802.11ac