It looks like such an epic adventure on the GR54 - the mountain scenery is absolutely breathtaking. Sometimes things just don’t go as planned, but you gave it your best! Thanks for sharing the highs and lows of this journey.. Very nice video 👌
Hup! Ya budgie! That was a great trip with good people. Real life conditions, real life interactions. Your walking videos are realistic and honest kiddo! Keep it up!
I absolutely understand why you gave up. I am probably about 30 years older than you, I visited the alps quite a few times in my twenties and usually always came home early and I’m sure the heat is much worse now. Like you I would much rather be on a Scottish summit (or my native Lake District) wearing my cag and over trousers!
Thanks Jennifer, it would seem it’s getting more difficult to hike in the Alps in the summer now due to extreme heat. Maybe the next trip abroad will be a Scandinavian country instead. C’mon the cag and over troos 😄
That was a tough gig Robin, especially in the July heat. But you did pass through some stunning mountain landscapes so thank you for sharing with those of us stuck in this dreich Scottish summer! BTW, the French really do have a problem with public sanitation. At 31:50 every public toilet I've ever been to in France is like that 😖 All the best Robin. 🙋♂🐶
You have to come back, maybe in early June, less heat, less crowded and the most beautiful part comes after Vallouise. Did most of the GR 54 in august 2022, started in Monetier les Bains. Came back in june of 2023 and did the first part. You definately missed the most beautiful part! But if you're not used to the circumstances like heat or elevation, it's always the right thing to quit. Nice video, always fun to rediscover the places I know!
Cheers mate, yeah I think I would like to go back and finish the section I missed. There was late snow this year making June a bit tricky for the likes of the Col de l’Aup Martin. Storm damage too. Park authorities working hard to ensure washed away bridges were replaced etc.
Hi Robin, what an interesting trip A hike I know is beyond my abilities these days. I just watched Morgs 4 mountains, he just returned from the Pyrenees after a few days as was way to hot and he is a proper long distance hiker. I myself did a couple of annual holidays hiking the GR 10 about 15 years ago and on the last trip ended up in hospital due to the heat so that really put me off the hot countries and I’m worse now older too. Thanks Robin and ATB Kind regards 👍🙏🏕️😊🍺
Hey Dave, yikes, glad you were okay afterwards. heat exhaustion/stroke was definitely playing on my mind. It’s just not enjoyable is it. I’ll probably avoid Central Europe for hiking in the height of summer. June would have been better but there was a lot of storm damage and late snow on the high passes. 😔
@@WalkWithWallace yes we went in late June I recal and during the hike we held back one day and set out at 4am on the recommendation of the hostel guy so we could take our time as the high pass still had a lot of snow and he said we could also make it to the next hostel that way. That was the most exciting days hiking I had ever done and I was leading a party of 6. When we reached the hostel the warden said he had been open a month and we were the first that year due to the snow, he cooked us a fantastic meal , it was a stunning location. 🙏❤️🏕️
Sorry it didn't work out for you Robin. Me and Sandy both sitting watching the video and we both said literally at the same time that you didn't seem your usual self. It's like that sometimes. I went on the South Downs Way last year and got a niggle only lasted 2 days and I bailed. Head not in it, questioning why I even decided to walk it. A good friend of mine told me once that inside everyone that you know there is someone you don't. Looking forward to your next adventure. ATB Al 👍
Cheers Al, yeah you’re probably right. My enthusiasm even for filming wasn’t quite there and did wonder if anyone would pick up on that. Sounded like we were in similar situations, where our heads were at.
Hi Robin, some stunning scenery there, the colour of the water was just epic. Looked a cracking trail, but it must have been so tough in that heat, especially at altitude as well. No such this as failure though mate, only experience and must have been one hell of an experience. All the best mate Dave 😀🥾🏕️⛰🏴🏴
Well done mate for getting that far, looked a tough old gig in that heat, some of them views amazing 👏. Nothing will ever beat the trainspotting toilet lol 😆. Good job man you done great 👌 Superbos
When I was in France 🇫🇷 just before the Olympics the heat was brutal in paris. I love this footage. I hope this is the start of more euro treks for you so we can sit in cool house watch and be inspired ❤😂
Thanks Kirsty, aye when I seen the heatwave across Europe on the news my heart sank as I knew it would be a struggle. Definitely will be back, when I don’t know.
@WalkWithWallace it's all valuable lessons to consider on future trips. Like the heat, the company, the scale of it all, calories needed, and so on. I'm super excited for you that you've moved on to this scale of hiking and can't wait to see where it takes you and us as viewers. Well done. I was dehydrated watching you. Haha. Good to hear you using pilates to help ease and relieve your body, too. The scenery was spectacular 👌 ✨️
Wouldn’t put that as a fail at all. Looked epic! Us Scot’s ain’t built for that level of heat to walk in. Aye your right too robin, that movie was pish 😂
Cracking video mate 😍👌🏻..Jeeso that looked tough going Robin..It must of been a nightmare hiking in that heat…Amazing views and to hike higher than you’ve been before must of been amazing..Too class edit mate😁👌🏻
Great video mate. Defo the right choice eh, if your no enjoying it. I couldnae cope with that heat like. Stunning scenery. 😎 Had to keep covering the dogs eyes with pillows due to the sheep & dogs. They even barked at the chickens. 🙈 Fishmongers window. 😂 Must make a change saying Bonjour than Hiya map pal. 😁 Bessie. Is that where Aunt Bessie is from? 😂 Love the French music 😁
Haha, chickens in 4K eh. 🐓 I actually mentioned Aunt Bessie, did I edit that out? I almost said bonjour to someone on the dog walk around Dunfy when I got home 🤣
Reminded me of going up Mulhacén in the south of Spain one July, camping at 9000 feet. We started the walk at 1100, after a few hours we were drinking water with electrolyte tablets, but just could not quench the thirst and sense of dehydration. Plus the effects of altitude.
That looked very hard work Robin. Even though you were starting before sunrise to beat the heat with those descents during the day you were right back into the higher temperatures again and then walking into the evening . Hiking at a higher altitude has an impact too. Just back from a holiday in the Queyras area not for from where you were. We found it hard work going for a few ahort hikes without the heavy rucsacs. Dont let this put you off returning to the Alps. There are lota of great places to visit with plenty of options for day hikes similar to climbing a Munro which take you to great viewpoints or you can just travel around the area as a tourist. Cable cars can also take the sting out of some ascents and then you can spend rest of the day enjoying the high mountains. ATB Derek
Cheers Derek, the first 3-4 hours in the shade was good. We put a dent in each day before it got too hot. I seen your instagram post, you weren’t far from us at all.
Epic adventure, Robin! First time trekking in that heat on what looked like some pretty strenuous days. Maybe should have taken a zero day early in the trip (easy for me to say watching). Thanks for uploading.
Well done Robin, Hiking is difficult at the best of times, combined with the heat and that kind of altitude it's a different ball game, sorry to hear you had to bail, but it's better to leave whilst you still had the resolve, Keep on Keeping On mate ATB
Not an easy decision to make Robin. However, having suffered myself with heat stroke, it would be a nightmare at that elevation. Thanks for taking us on your adventure. G ❤️ 🏴
The scenery was stunning. I guess those rivers are glacial melt by the colour of them. What an experience! Must admit, it would be too much for me. Fair play Robin
I didn’t think of glacier melt actually. Could be spot on there. The storm damage was massive, the park authorities worked well to keep the trail open.
If you're nauseous in the heat, you're in the early stages of heat exhaustion which in its extreme form can lead to heat stroke. I was on the Haute Route Pyrenees early in July and had to leave it for exactly the same reasons. You've made the right decision and tje decision you have taken will have been one of the hardest you'll have done from a walking perspective.. You will have invested time and money in preparing to go on this trip and the heat undid it. I am coming to the conclusion that walking in southern Europe, including the Alps is getting harder and harder due to climate change. That said, I am due to walk the GR54 with 2 friends next year. I really hope that I don't have the same weather you did. My silver lining was that I returned to the UK and after a week's recovery, set out to successfully walk the Cambrian Way. Don't feel too bad about the decision you took. It was the right one for you.
Hi Morg, thanks for taking the time to respond. It was mild nausea but you’re right I definitely made the right decision and I have no regrets. It could have easily got worse. What time of year are going? Hopefully it’s cooler. In hindsight I wonder if September would have been better? June can be an issue with snow on the passes. I might have a look into Scandinavia next time.
@@WalkWithWallace I have two treks lined up in the next two years. The Massiv Ruta in Norway where I sense heat exhaustion won't be an issue. I'm planning on the GR54 mid July next year for exactly the reason you outline re snow. I have walked extensively in the Alps and Pyrenees and this year was by far the worst heat I have encountered. If it continues then northern Europe will become my playground. I'm so pleased for you that you are comfortable with the decision made. I am now, but for a few days I really regretted it. But, that was my mind not working properly due to the heat exhaustion.
Sounds good, I’ll do a bit of research. Sarek NP looks popular among long distance hikers too. If you’re on FB, there’s a GR54 Hikers group. Was really useful for snow condition reports, plus there was a lot of storm damage earlier this year. The French park authorities were brilliant in doing repairs etc keeping the route open. Weird thing was I was out of my comfort zone finding my way home solo after quitting. An adventure in itself 😄
@@WalkWithWallace Many thanks for the information regarding the FB group for the GR54. I know what you mean about the travel. You needed the comfort of your own home and travelling in a foreign country where you don't speak the language means that you are in disorientation. That is another symptom of the mild heat exhaustion that you were experiencing. Right decision made.
We had a fortnight in the Ecrin about 10 years ago, I remember it being far too hot and full of flies. The Alps are becoming too hot these days. Am sure you'll be back.
Well thought you did very well the views were fantastic and you made the right decision. I love a bit of sun but hillwalking in the heat is no fun and if it’s not enjoyable then a walk can turn quickly into punishment so you did the right thing in all honesty I didn’t think you looked very well on some of the footage ( not that I am a doctor lol😂) glad your ok though. I went to northern Italy last year by 1030 am. It was unbearable hot I just sat in the shade at the bar all day with Mrs K we didn’t do half of the sightseeing we wanted to do it was ridiculously hot . Anyway thought you did well great experience nice video Walking the hills of North Korea along border is much cooler although there’s no shops and you might get shot 😅 keep the videos coming it’s by far the best hiking you tube channel there is mate
Haha, cheers Andrew. You’re not the first to say I wasn’t quite right in the footage. So definitely made the right decision. Sitting in the shade at the bar sounds a good compromise. Like you as soon as it was mid morning it was roasty toasty.
Bummer! Heat makes it really hard to enjoy a hike, for sure. I got altitude sickness on a hike, and as much as I wanted to complete it, just couldn't do it - I couldn't eat enough, nauseous all the time, and that was that. There's always another hike.
I'd have gone home long before you mate. That heat is strength sapping coupled with the mileage and ascent/descent. Good for the auld tan though. I just put my pack in as checked in luggage with pegs and folding poles inside. I do take a brand new burner whenever I travel. They don't like smelly stoves in airport security. I have a lightweight airport bag that doubles as a rain cover so usually take that. I have a wee fold up rucsac that has my carry on electronics. I'm used to flying with gear as I have to get home to Scotland for walking by plane😂 Getting to France I just hop a ferry and take the train. Adds to the holiday. Nice overnight ferry trip and I like going by train. So,enjoyed the vid. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers mate, that’s exactly what I did on the way home. Dismantled the poles and put them in my rucksack as checked luggage. Carried my GoPro and Zoleo on with me. Put my claim in for compo for having to replace the stuff we lost. So hopefully get that back in a few days. The heat was too much on this occasion.
Really enjoyed this, though it made me even more worried for a few days of TMB I am planning in September! You completed several days of hard , beautiful walking so kudos and experience gained. Going on an international trip is stressful eh? I have seen people take trekking poles into the cabin, not an option? Can I ask what that light jacket is you wore? Did it work? Cheers buddy.
Hi Dave, check with your airline but I’m pretty sure poles definitely need to go in checked luggage. My top was the Outdoor Research Astroman sun hoodie. Worked really well, protecting me from sun and really fast drying. Hope its cooled off a bit by the time you go next month.
It’s a beautiful trail by the looks of it but that heat seemed horrendous. Definitely the right thing to do, you weren’t doing well in the heat. Hope you’ve managed to cool down some 😅!
Finally got round to watching this video. Unbelievable mountain scenery, do you realise how big they are when you're that close to them or is it hard to judge and get the scale of them. Think that's first time I've ever seen you properly struggling, must've been hot hot hot. Did the other 2 finish the route ? Is it something you'd like to do again but just in cooler months or take your time a bit more ?
You really do get a sense of a scale, the mountains are higher, the valleys deeper and the rivers are wider. Still not the highest either. They managed to finish aye, I’m tempted to go back and finish the section I missed, maybe in September and hope its cooler.
Good call I reckon Robin, the back half of the GR54 is no place to be in that heat and there's hardly anywhere to bail. Maybe one to return to later on? Anyway, you got some beaut wild camps in... those early morning shots are fantastic. Cheers!
Thanks Andrew, yeah I think I knew that it would be more difficult to bail after Vallouise, it was fun getting back to Grenoble. I would like to go back and finish the trail. Missed the best section.
Carrying an exped pack in that heat must have been pretty nightmarish at times. I'd be happy just to do the section from Pont d'Arsine - that looked magical!
Bad luck Robin looked fair tough route that did to be honest. You gave it a bash and what about the views you got looked stunning ma man. To be honest i think you all should have had an "off day" just like you did when you were on the "Cape Wrath" trail you all could have chilled oot and took stock. But hindsight eh? Anyway Robin another epic mate class viewing as per big man!!
Cheers Peter, I reckon you’re right. A wee rest day in the town I left the trail could have refreshed me a bit. Campsite, shower and a hot cooked meal. No matter as it was still a good experience. 😁😎
Gutted for you, man! I had to bail on a trip to Knoydart a few years ago due to dehydration/exhaustion so can only imagine what it's like when it's proper hot! Roll on clagged-out, sub-900 metre summits!
@WalkWithWallace Aye, did a Corbett the first day when it was roasting and camped. Slept like shit and let myself get dehydrated. Got up on to the ridge past Sgurr Coire Choinnichean the next day with the intention of doing Ladhar Bheinn and it just wasn't happening. Boots felt like concrete, dry mouth and generally weak. Bad game management on my part. Was mid to high 20s and humid AF, so that's my excuse. Well played for putting it on your socials. Loads of folk wouldn't.
It’s easy done eh, I ran out of water on a similar route to you. Started panicking as there was nothing on the ridge. Has to be realism, I can’t be doing with sugar coated stuff or faux drama either 😅
No failure at all, Robin. The objective is surely to enjoy it. If you’re not enjoying it, no point in continuing the suffering just to tick a box. Hope you guys can sort out your differences, too. ATB 👍
Cheers Dave, think that’s where my mindset was. Might have been type 2 fun at the end but at the time I wasn’t enjoying it and have no regrets. We’re good, just silly stuff really. 🤝
I'm off to Briancon in a few weeks but going to try a few easy walks from the town, nothing too strenuous! Did the GR20 on Corsica 12 years ago and totally empathise with you. It's not just your physical wellbeing, I found it mentally taxing as well. Keep the videos coming. Great entertainment
Where are you staying in Briancon? The campsite I found was excellent, just outside the city. GR20 looks fantastic, a lot of scrambling though, I believe?
@@WalkWithWallace I did the northern half of the GR20 from Vizzavona to Calvi, around 15 years ago. The day that includes the Cirque de la Solitude looks the most daunting, but you're helped up the slabby bits by well fixed chains, and if I remember there's a ladder somewhere en route. It's a great trip. Fabulous scenery. We did it in mid June, before it got too stiflingly hot. There was still some snow around in some areas but nothing that needed any winter gear. We took tents which we pitched at the huts, and ate all our meals at the huts, so we didn't have to carry cooking stuff or loads of food. There's no wild camping allowed away from the areas around the huts. I keep meaning to go back to do the southern half. It's a great trek with stunning scenery.
Fill view Robin - enjoyed that. An epic trek for sure but for a Scot up and down in that heat? Well, it's going to suck it out of you. What you did see and experience was memorable though. Perhaps a cooler climate next time - Norway or something? All the best. Mark
@@WalkWithWallace A pleasure Robin - I really enjoyed every minute. Good to hear of the experience. Well, the coninent is big so there might be other adventures.
Looked like a nice walk but anyway Im looking forward to seeing your Scottish adventures and long distance walks :) There is plenty of them to do in here.
@@WalkWithWallace I would be happy to join you but im stuck at home with my 1y old toddler😅 only going to Portobello or Muscleburgh for walks and relax...
If I’m honest you didn’t look comfortable from the kick off, no shame in bailing out if you’re not feeling it. Looked stunning but I can imagine it being brutal in the heat.
I think you’re probably right, day 1 was off on the back foot soon as our stuff went missing. Probably should have had a zero day earlier on in the trip and it might have been a different outcome. No regrets nevertheless.
@WalkWithWallace I went on a holiday and climbing trip to chamonix about 22 years ago. My climbing pack never made it , lost at schipol. Got it back 2 months later. Fortunately it had stuff in I could borrow from the guide, buy or hire in Cham, like harness and jacket, my boots made it through or would have been stuffed. Still got to do the objectives like a few routes and climb mont blanc. Bizarrely, having filmed loads of stuff, like mont blanc, the video camera was stolen from the really quiet place we were staying, so lost the footage.
them big pegs could go into rocks, if you had a hammer!!! it was a new adventure at the end of the day. plus next time the next part of the trail will be new.
It looks like such an epic adventure on the GR54 - the mountain scenery is absolutely breathtaking. Sometimes things just don’t go as planned, but you gave it your best! Thanks for sharing the highs and lows of this journey.. Very nice video 👌
Thanks SJ, yeah this one didn’t quite work out but still a great experience.
A fantastic adventure Robin and made the right call, if your not enjoying then no point suffering. Hope you and Stripey are okay. Stay safe 👊
Cheers Craig and I totally agree. Just couldn’t get into this one at all and the heat was the deciding factor. 🥵
Hup!
Ya budgie!
That was a great trip with good people. Real life conditions, real life interactions. Your walking videos are realistic and honest kiddo! Keep it up!
Cheers buddy and that’s definitely the aim. 😎
Beautiful scenery, and impressive mountains. Love the colour of the rivers and lochs.
Cheers Andy, everything was impressive in scale but not quite Bonnie Scotland 🏴
I absolutely understand why you gave up. I am probably about 30 years older than you, I visited the alps quite a few times in my twenties and usually always came home early and I’m sure the heat is much worse now. Like you I would much rather be on a Scottish summit (or my native Lake District) wearing my cag and over trousers!
Thanks Jennifer, it would seem it’s getting more difficult to hike in the Alps in the summer now due to extreme heat. Maybe the next trip abroad will be a Scandinavian country instead. C’mon the cag and over troos 😄
That was a tough gig Robin, especially in the July heat. But you did pass through some stunning mountain landscapes so thank you for sharing with those of us stuck in this dreich Scottish summer! BTW, the French really do have a problem with public sanitation. At 31:50 every public toilet I've ever been to in France is like that 😖 All the best Robin. 🙋♂🐶
You have to come back, maybe in early June, less heat, less crowded and the most beautiful part comes after Vallouise. Did most of the GR 54 in august 2022, started in Monetier les Bains. Came back in june of 2023 and did the first part. You definately missed the most beautiful part! But if you're not used to the circumstances like heat or elevation, it's always the right thing to quit. Nice video, always fun to rediscover the places I know!
Cheers mate, yeah I think I would like to go back and finish the section I missed. There was late snow this year making June a bit tricky for the likes of the Col de l’Aup Martin. Storm damage too. Park authorities working hard to ensure washed away bridges were replaced etc.
Hi Robin, what an interesting trip A hike I know is beyond my abilities these days. I just watched Morgs 4 mountains, he just returned from the Pyrenees after a few days as was way to hot and he is a proper long distance hiker.
I myself did a couple of annual holidays hiking the GR 10 about 15 years ago and on the last trip ended up in hospital due to the heat so that really put me off the hot countries and I’m worse now older too.
Thanks Robin and ATB
Kind regards
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Hey Dave, yikes, glad you were okay afterwards. heat exhaustion/stroke was definitely playing on my mind. It’s just not enjoyable is it. I’ll probably avoid Central Europe for hiking in the height of summer. June would have been better but there was a lot of storm damage and late snow on the high passes. 😔
@@WalkWithWallace yes we went in late June I recal and during the hike we held back one day and set out at 4am on the recommendation of the hostel guy so we could take our time as the high pass still had a lot of snow and he said we could also make it to the next hostel that way. That was the most exciting days hiking I had ever done and I was leading a party of 6. When we reached the hostel the warden said he had been open a month and we were the first that year due to the snow, he cooked us a fantastic meal , it was a stunning location. 🙏❤️🏕️
Pioneers that year, class. 😎
Sorry it didn't work out for you Robin. Me and Sandy both sitting watching the video and we both said literally at the same time that you didn't seem your usual self. It's like that sometimes. I went on the South Downs Way last year and got a niggle only lasted 2 days and I bailed. Head not in it, questioning why I even decided to walk it. A good friend of mine told me once that inside everyone that you know there is someone you don't. Looking forward to your next adventure. ATB Al 👍
Cheers Al, yeah you’re probably right. My enthusiasm even for filming wasn’t quite there and did wonder if anyone would pick up on that. Sounded like we were in similar situations, where our heads were at.
Hi Robin, some stunning scenery there, the colour of the water was just epic. Looked a cracking trail, but it must have been so tough in that heat, especially at altitude as well. No such this as failure though mate, only experience and must have been one hell of an experience.
All the best mate
Dave 😀🥾🏕️⛰🏴🏴
Cheers Dave, appreciate that bud. 😎 It was s good experience tbf and no regrets.
Fantastic watch 👍
Thank you 😎 👍🏻
Well done mate for getting that far, looked a tough old gig in that heat, some of them views amazing 👏. Nothing will ever beat the trainspotting toilet lol 😆. Good job man you done great 👌 Superbos
Cheers Tam, aye was a brutal big in that heat mate but got some mint views along the way.
When I was in France 🇫🇷 just before the Olympics the heat was brutal in paris. I love this footage. I hope this is the start of more euro treks for you so we can sit in cool house watch and be inspired ❤😂
Thanks Kirsty, aye when I seen the heatwave across Europe on the news my heart sank as I knew it would be a struggle. Definitely will be back, when I don’t know.
@WalkWithWallace it's all valuable lessons to consider on future trips. Like the heat, the company, the scale of it all, calories needed, and so on. I'm super excited for you that you've moved on to this scale of hiking and can't wait to see where it takes you and us as viewers. Well done. I was dehydrated watching you. Haha. Good to hear you using pilates to help ease and relieve your body, too. The scenery was spectacular 👌 ✨️
Definitely, you’ve hit the nail on the head on all accounts. Do pilates every night although been a bit lazy since coming back 😆
“A fishmongers window” 😂
My wife say’s that when it’s pissin down
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Wouldn’t put that as a fail at all. Looked epic! Us Scot’s ain’t built for that level of heat to walk in. Aye your right too robin, that movie was pish 😂
Haha, cheers mate. 😎👍🏻
Cracking video mate 😍👌🏻..Jeeso that looked tough going Robin..It must of been a nightmare hiking in that heat…Amazing views and to hike higher than you’ve been before must of been amazing..Too class edit mate😁👌🏻
Cheers Murchie, aye it was a tough but memorable gig that. Wouldn’t go in July again 🥵 🤣
@@WalkWithWallace 😁👍
Great video mate. Defo the right choice eh, if your no enjoying it. I couldnae cope with that heat like. Stunning scenery. 😎 Had to keep covering the dogs eyes with pillows due to the sheep & dogs. They even barked at the chickens. 🙈
Fishmongers window. 😂
Must make a change saying Bonjour than Hiya map pal. 😁
Bessie. Is that where Aunt Bessie is from? 😂 Love the French music 😁
Haha, chickens in 4K eh. 🐓
I actually mentioned Aunt Bessie, did I edit that out? I almost said bonjour to someone on the dog walk around Dunfy when I got home 🤣
@@WalkWithWallace Haha. Bonjour tae a wee Fife ned. 😂 Aye think you edited it oot. Never heard Auntie 😂
@@Kev_Russ 🥸😄
Really "superbos" video Robin, thanks for keeping it so real. And with those scenes you captured the journey was a total success regardless
Thanks mate, appreciate the positivity. It was definitely an experience I’ll remember. 😁
Looked a stunning place Robin , hard going in that heat but if you are enjoying it , you done the right thing pulling out mate ..
Definitely Stevie, no regrets at all.
Just remember, 'discretion is the better part of valour'.
Feeling good on the track is what it's all about. See you on the next one.
Absolutely Philip, thank you ☺️
Reminded me of going up Mulhacén in the south of Spain one July, camping at 9000 feet.
We started the walk at 1100, after a few hours we were drinking water with electrolyte tablets, but just could not quench the thirst and sense of dehydration. Plus the effects of altitude.
Not much fun is it, and altitude sickness can kick in around the 3000m mark. I was using electrolyte tablets too, definitely helped.
That looked very hard work Robin. Even though you were starting before sunrise to beat the heat with those descents during the day you were right back into the higher temperatures again and then walking into the evening . Hiking at a higher altitude has an impact too. Just back from a holiday in the Queyras area not for from where you were. We found it hard work going for a few ahort hikes without the heavy rucsacs. Dont let this put you off returning to the Alps. There are lota of great places to visit with plenty of options for day hikes similar to climbing a Munro which take you to great viewpoints or you can just travel around the area as a tourist. Cable cars can also take the sting out of some ascents and then you can spend rest of the day enjoying the high mountains. ATB Derek
Cheers Derek, the first 3-4 hours in the shade was good. We put a dent in each day before it got too hot. I seen your instagram post, you weren’t far from us at all.
Looked a mega tough cookie this, makes the St C Way look a doddle 😂. Respect. Atb, Milesy 👍
Cheers mucker, aye it was a tough gig in that heat. 🥵
Epic adventure, Robin! First time trekking in that heat on what looked like some pretty strenuous days. Maybe should have taken a zero day early in the trip (easy for me to say watching). Thanks for uploading.
Yeah quite possibly, maybe could have slept on it but no regrets and still enjoyed the experience. Unfinished business me thinks.
Well done Robin, Hiking is difficult at the best of times, combined with the heat and that kind of altitude it's a different ball game, sorry to hear you had to bail, but it's better to leave whilst you still had the resolve, Keep on Keeping On mate ATB
Cheers mate, it was definitely the right decision and was still a good experience. 😎 👌🏻
Not an easy decision to make Robin. However, having suffered myself with heat stroke, it would be a nightmare at that elevation. Thanks for taking us on your adventure. G ❤️ 🏴
Cheers G, aye that couldn’t have been good. I’ve suffered from dehydration but not heat stroke. 🥵
Having recently failed in the Atlas Mountains, all I will say is that you tried, and did good. Good vid.
Sorry to hear that mate, was it similar with the heat or altitude sickness?
@WalkWithWallace combination, but still a great experience.
Some of those landscapes were full on WOW! Looked torture in that heat right enuff tho man. Enjoyed the vid, cheers 👌🏻
Cheers CC, aye the heat was a bummer but definitely some nice scenery.
The scenery was stunning. I guess those rivers are glacial melt by the colour of them. What an experience!
Must admit, it would be too much for me. Fair play Robin
I didn’t think of glacier melt actually. Could be spot on there. The storm damage was massive, the park authorities worked well to keep the trail open.
If you're nauseous in the heat, you're in the early stages of heat exhaustion which in its extreme form can lead to heat stroke. I was on the Haute Route Pyrenees early in July and had to leave it for exactly the same reasons. You've made the right decision and tje decision you have taken will have been one of the hardest you'll have done from a walking perspective.. You will have invested time and money in preparing to go on this trip and the heat undid it.
I am coming to the conclusion that walking in southern Europe, including the Alps is getting harder and harder due to climate change. That said, I am due to walk the GR54 with 2 friends next year. I really hope that I don't have the same weather you did.
My silver lining was that I returned to the UK and after a week's recovery, set out to successfully walk the Cambrian Way.
Don't feel too bad about the decision you took. It was the right one for you.
Hi Morg, thanks for taking the time to respond. It was mild nausea but you’re right I definitely made the right decision and I have no regrets. It could have easily got worse.
What time of year are going? Hopefully it’s cooler. In hindsight I wonder if September would have been better? June can be an issue with snow on the passes. I might have a look into Scandinavia next time.
@@WalkWithWallace I have two treks lined up in the next two years. The Massiv Ruta in Norway where I sense heat exhaustion won't be an issue. I'm planning on the GR54 mid July next year for exactly the reason you outline re snow. I have walked extensively in the Alps and Pyrenees and this year was by far the worst heat I have encountered. If it continues then northern Europe will become my playground.
I'm so pleased for you that you are comfortable with the decision made. I am now, but for a few days I really regretted it. But, that was my mind not working properly due to the heat exhaustion.
Sounds good, I’ll do a bit of research. Sarek NP looks popular among long distance hikers too. If you’re on FB, there’s a GR54 Hikers group. Was really useful for snow condition reports, plus there was a lot of storm damage earlier this year. The French park authorities were brilliant in doing repairs etc keeping the route open.
Weird thing was I was out of my comfort zone finding my way home solo after quitting. An adventure in itself 😄
@@WalkWithWallace Many thanks for the information regarding the FB group for the GR54. I know what you mean about the travel. You needed the comfort of your own home and travelling in a foreign country where you don't speak the language means that you are in disorientation. That is another symptom of the mild heat exhaustion that you were experiencing. Right decision made.
All the best for your future hikes, back to domestic hiking for me. 😎
We had a fortnight in the Ecrin about 10 years ago, I remember it being far too hot and full of flies. The Alps are becoming too hot these days.
Am sure you'll be back.
It’s stunning isn’t it.
Yeah, I think I’ve already got an itch to go back next year and do the section I missed.
Robin, cheers for sharing, hats off despite the dnf. And Peelywallyitis is a problem we should all be talking about in this day and age! J.👍🏻
Ha, cheers James. We’re not built for the heat. Suited to the rain and wearing a cagoule. 🥲
Well thought you did very well the views were fantastic and you made the right decision. I love a bit of sun but hillwalking in the heat is no fun and if it’s not enjoyable then a walk can turn quickly into punishment so you did the right thing in all honesty I didn’t think you looked very well on some of the footage ( not that I am a doctor lol😂) glad your ok though. I went to northern Italy last year by 1030 am. It was unbearable hot I just sat in the shade at the bar all day with Mrs K we didn’t do half of the sightseeing we wanted to do it was ridiculously hot . Anyway thought you did well great experience nice video Walking the hills of North Korea along border is much cooler although there’s no shops and you might get shot 😅 keep the videos coming it’s by far the best hiking you tube channel there is mate
Haha, cheers Andrew. You’re not the first to say I wasn’t quite right in the footage. So definitely made the right decision. Sitting in the shade at the bar sounds a good compromise. Like you as soon as it was mid morning it was roasty toasty.
Great vlog Robin, down to earth warts and all, some stunning views and great memories but ooft that heat 🥵 well done atb Brian 👍
Cheers Bri, brutal mate and fair play to Stripey and Andy for pushing on.
Bummer! Heat makes it really hard to enjoy a hike, for sure. I got altitude sickness on a hike, and as much as I wanted to complete it, just couldn't do it - I couldn't eat enough, nauseous all the time, and that was that. There's always another hike.
Hey Karen, sounds very similar experience to me. Both made the right decision.
I'd have gone home long before you mate. That heat is strength sapping coupled with the mileage and ascent/descent. Good for the auld tan though.
I just put my pack in as checked in luggage with pegs and folding poles inside. I do take a brand new burner whenever I travel. They don't like smelly stoves in airport security. I have a lightweight airport bag that doubles as a rain cover so usually take that. I have a wee fold up rucsac that has my carry on electronics.
I'm used to flying with gear as I have to get home to Scotland for walking by plane😂 Getting to France I just hop a ferry and take the train. Adds to the holiday. Nice overnight ferry trip and I like going by train.
So,enjoyed the vid. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers mate, that’s exactly what I did on the way home. Dismantled the poles and put them in my rucksack as checked luggage. Carried my GoPro and Zoleo on with me. Put my claim in for compo for having to replace the stuff we lost. So hopefully get that back in a few days. The heat was too much on this occasion.
Really enjoyed this, though it made me even more worried for a few days of TMB I am planning in September! You completed several days of hard , beautiful walking so kudos and experience gained. Going on an international trip is stressful eh? I have seen people take trekking poles into the cabin, not an option? Can I ask what that light jacket is you wore? Did it work? Cheers buddy.
Hi Dave, check with your airline but I’m pretty sure poles definitely need to go in checked luggage. My top was the Outdoor Research Astroman sun hoodie. Worked really well, protecting me from sun and really fast drying. Hope its cooled off a bit by the time you go next month.
@@Fellmandave1 All sharp pointy things have to go in checked luggage. Tent pegs, trekking poles, machetes...
Cheers buddy@@WalkWithWallace
It’s a beautiful trail by the looks of it but that heat seemed horrendous. Definitely the right thing to do, you weren’t doing well in the heat. Hope you’ve managed to cool down some 😅!
Haha, aye acclimatised back to the Scottish climate 🤣
Finally got round to watching this video.
Unbelievable mountain scenery, do you realise how big they are when you're that close to them or is it hard to judge and get the scale of them.
Think that's first time I've ever seen you properly struggling, must've been hot hot hot.
Did the other 2 finish the route ?
Is it something you'd like to do again but just in cooler months or take your time a bit more ?
You really do get a sense of a scale, the mountains are higher, the valleys deeper and the rivers are wider. Still not the highest either.
They managed to finish aye, I’m tempted to go back and finish the section I missed, maybe in September and hope its cooler.
@WalkWithWallace aye it looks stunning.
Be nice to see you go back and finish it 👍
@@summitwithstevie6934 think it will gnaw away at me if I don’t.
Good call I reckon Robin, the back half of the GR54 is no place to be in that heat and there's hardly anywhere to bail. Maybe one to return to later on? Anyway, you got some beaut wild camps in... those early morning shots are fantastic. Cheers!
Thanks Andrew, yeah I think I knew that it would be more difficult to bail after Vallouise, it was fun getting back to Grenoble. I would like to go back and finish the trail. Missed the best section.
Carrying an exped pack in that heat must have been pretty nightmarish at times. I'd be happy just to do the section from Pont d'Arsine - that looked magical!
Yeah, it was a tad heavy particularly when I stocked up in food. That was a cracking section to be fair.🏔️
Bad luck Robin looked fair tough route that did to be honest. You gave it a bash and what about the views you got looked stunning ma man. To be honest i think you all should have had an "off day" just like you did when you were on the "Cape Wrath" trail you all could have chilled oot and took stock. But hindsight eh? Anyway Robin another epic mate class viewing as per big man!!
Cheers Peter, I reckon you’re right. A wee rest day in the town I left the trail could have refreshed me a bit. Campsite, shower and a hot cooked meal. No matter as it was still a good experience. 😁😎
Gutted for you, man! I had to bail on a trip to Knoydart a few years ago due to dehydration/exhaustion so can only imagine what it's like when it's proper hot! Roll on clagged-out, sub-900 metre summits!
Aye mate, one of those things eh. Couldn’t enjoy it like I normally would. Take it you were chapping for water in Knoydart?
@WalkWithWallace
Aye, did a Corbett the first day when it was roasting and camped. Slept like shit and let myself get dehydrated. Got up on to the ridge past Sgurr Coire Choinnichean the next day with the intention of doing Ladhar Bheinn and it just wasn't happening. Boots felt like concrete, dry mouth and generally weak. Bad game management on my part. Was mid to high 20s and humid AF, so that's my excuse.
Well played for putting it on your socials. Loads of folk wouldn't.
It’s easy done eh, I ran out of water on a similar route to you. Started panicking as there was nothing on the ridge. Has to be realism, I can’t be doing with sugar coated stuff or faux drama either 😅
No failure at all, Robin. The objective is surely to enjoy it. If you’re not enjoying it, no point in continuing the suffering just to tick a box. Hope you guys can sort out your differences, too. ATB 👍
Cheers Dave, think that’s where my mindset was. Might have been type 2 fun at the end but at the time I wasn’t enjoying it and have no regrets. We’re good, just silly stuff really. 🤝
@@WalkWithWallaceglad to hear it, bud. Onwards and upwards for you guys 👊
I'm off to Briancon in a few weeks but going to try a few easy walks from the town, nothing too strenuous! Did the GR20 on Corsica 12 years ago and totally empathise with you. It's not just your physical wellbeing, I found it mentally taxing as well. Keep the videos coming. Great entertainment
Where are you staying in Briancon? The campsite I found was excellent, just outside the city. GR20 looks fantastic, a lot of scrambling though, I believe?
Found an Airbnb the size of a Wendy house and very cheap. GR20 was amazing but undoubtedly the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.
Enjoy Terry, yeah it looks a long trek that.
@@WalkWithWallace I did the northern half of the GR20 from Vizzavona to Calvi, around 15 years ago. The day that includes the Cirque de la Solitude looks the most daunting, but you're helped up the slabby bits by well fixed chains, and if I remember there's a ladder somewhere en route. It's a great trip. Fabulous scenery. We did it in mid June, before it got too stiflingly hot. There was still some snow around in some areas but nothing that needed any winter gear. We took tents which we pitched at the huts, and ate all our meals at the huts, so we didn't have to carry cooking stuff or loads of food. There's no wild camping allowed away from the areas around the huts. I keep meaning to go back to do the southern half. It's a great trek with stunning scenery.
Cracking video Robin.Views were just stunning.I'm like a burst couch over here in the heat nevermind in a heatwave in France.🥵🥵
Haha, cheers Andy. We’re no built for it mate!
Fill view Robin - enjoyed that. An epic trek for sure but for a Scot up and down in that heat? Well, it's going to suck it out of you. What you did see and experience was memorable though. Perhaps a cooler climate next time - Norway or something? All the best. Mark
Cheers Mark and yeah perhaps Scandinavia would be more suited for a summer trek. It was a great experience looking back and I have no regrets.
@@WalkWithWallace A pleasure Robin - I really enjoyed every minute. Good to hear of the experience. Well, the coninent is big so there might be other adventures.
So many options, so little time.
@@WalkWithWallace Ah, tell me about it. I've been dreaming during this most frustrating injury Robin. So, many trails I wanna do. Take care mate.
You too bud, hope that shin is holding out.
well done, if it don't feel right, its not right. A lot to deal with the altitude, the heat, and probably some dehydration
Definitely and thanks Lezley.
Still a great adventure Robin 👍
I think so too, a new experience.
High heat,poor diet, exhaustion and lack of sleep?
Sounds like a fortnight in Spain.
It'll test the resolve of a sherpa🥵🤢😴🤯
Aye, a combination of everything put me up against it from day one I think. 😖
Head up high Robin 👍
Cheers Jimmy. 😁👍🏻
Looked like a nice walk but anyway Im looking forward to seeing your Scottish adventures and long distance walks :) There is plenty of them to do in here.
Cheers mate and totally agree. 🏴
@@WalkWithWallace I would be happy to join you but im stuck at home with my 1y old toddler😅 only going to Portobello or Muscleburgh for walks and relax...
My old neck of the woods. Porty boy through and through.
If I’m honest you didn’t look comfortable from the kick off, no shame in bailing out if you’re not feeling it. Looked stunning but I can imagine it being brutal in the heat.
I think you’re probably right, day 1 was off on the back foot soon as our stuff went missing. Probably should have had a zero day earlier on in the trip and it might have been a different outcome. No regrets nevertheless.
@WalkWithWallace I went on a holiday and climbing trip to chamonix about 22 years ago. My climbing pack never made it , lost at schipol. Got it back 2 months later. Fortunately it had stuff in I could borrow from the guide, buy or hire in Cham, like harness and jacket, my boots made it through or would have been stuffed. Still got to do the objectives like a few routes and climb mont blanc. Bizarrely, having filmed loads of stuff, like mont blanc, the video camera was stolen from the really quiet place we were staying, so lost the footage.
Yikes, I would have been quite upset losing the footage. Some size of an airport that. Like a city!
Great video mate. Are you using the pure clear water filter? If so, is it nay good?
Thanks
Cheers mate, it’s the Salomon XA Filter. Touch wood its been good so far.
them big pegs could go into rocks, if you had a hammer!!! it was a new adventure at the end of the day. plus next time the next part of the trail will be new.
They’d fair weigh your pack down though 🥹 aye mate it was a guid experience and one half left to do another time.
yea, i wouldnt hae picked them either. certianly looks like its work another shot. hope things with Stripey are ok.
There’s no hard feelings at all. 😊
good stuff... yea spending time over a few days for the first time can be hard, but ive made a couple good friend out of it.
@@peterq1978 can make or break a friendship 🤣
Did the Airline replace your walking poles.
Put a claim in for the poles I had to buy in Decathlon. Hopefully get the money back this week.