Why Was Crossdressing Illegal?
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Clothing is ultimately just fabric designed to cover our bodies. So why was it illegal for women to wear men’s clothing and for men to wear women’s clothing? And why is it still illegal in some parts of the world?
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Don't forget Shakespearean times, when women weren't allowed to be actors, so that every troupe had young men who played women. I believe the same was true for many other cultures as well.
In India too.
but they are then crossdressing? hmm..
Exactly, that's the origin of the word drag=dressed as a girl.
@@victoriaalbastra6325 Oh wow, never made that connection, thanks! 🙂👍
I read somewhere that for some time women weren’t even allowed to attend the theater where the piece was being performed. That sounds like an exaggeration but who knows…
I don't see why girls should be held responsible for the actions of the male students...
I agree
Although I dont think guys can control weather they're attracted or not
Guys can't control what they are attracted to, but they can however, control themselves in treating a girl properly.
@@dianac.9648 I can't control if I'm attracted to someone, but I sure as hell can control my actions based on that attraction. "They were hot" is NEVER a valid excuse for sexual harassment/assault.
@@screamingweevil3410 I know, I'm against the dress code, I'm just saying this shouldn't be blamed on guys but the school or district.
"If you're a woman and you're wearing pants right now"
bold of you to assume I'm wearing anything
A person of culture who also sleeps naked
In today's society, true.
@@FernandoTorrera Digital High-Five ヽ(○｀･v･)人(･v･´●)ﾉ
I am wearing panties, a guy
Don't get me started about high heels. UK especially allows employers to dictate dress codes for their employees even when those employees are not in contact with the general public. And if employees are in contact with the general public, these dress codes go as far as dictating the details of the make-up a woman should wear. This is all bullsh*t and nonsense.
As far as I am concerned, I still remember the comments about me wearing a colourful, if plain, t-shirt.
This world needs to grow up.
idraote well said sir
I have had 2 jobs where I all the female employees where given a set of approved make-up as part of the uniform and had to go to a make-up and hair lesson (only certain hairstyles arroved of course) as part of our training. On both occasions the guys just had to turn up neat and clean for the shift following what i would consider 'normal' appearnce rules for work, it was stupid.
idraote I relate to this. I used to work for a burger chain that started in the 40’s. And the founding family was conservative and Christian, so the dress code regulations were insanely strict (I’d constantly get in trouble for things like colored makeup, only nude was really allowed. I wore red lipstick one time and even though it matched the uniform, my manager complimented the color immediately before telling me to remove it. The male employees would have to shave in the locker room, even if it was just a 5 o’clock shadow. Your white pants had to be pristine, white crew cut socks only, women had to wear their hair secured entirely under a hat, held by a myriad of body pins and a headband. This was literally required. Also girls would have to clip their nails and remove nail polish in the break room if they weren’t bare and short. My nails were shiny from a nail growth treatment, not even polish, and I almost got in trouble for it ‘cause it “didn’t look natural”. Also no tattoos, piercings, or unnatural hair. I mean if you weren’t caucasian and had blonde or red hair you ran the risk of getting in trouble. Also for anyone if the red was too bright or the blonde was too white. And forget rainbow hair and interesting ombrés for sure. Extreme dress codes are ridiculous..
@@zombelladonna That sounds like my high school
I love "equal minded" guys!
At 4:39 on the left hand side of the screen you show Dr. Mary Edwards Walker. She was the only woman to have won the Congressional Medal of Honor. She served the Union army as a surgeon during the Civil War. She famously said, "I don't wear men's clothes, I wear my own clothes."
She was awarded the Medal of Honor, it is not something you win, like a prize at the carnival.
Melanie Clark Thank you for pointing that out. Indeed you are right and I stand corrected. It was most certainly not my intent to trivialize the nature and gravity of the Congressional Medal of Honor. Mea culpa! I'll do better in the future. Another interesting fact: the government rescinded her Medal not too long after the end of the Civil War. However, she refused to return it and wore it until she died. In 1977, President Jimmy Carter reinstated her Medal of Honor. She remains the only woman to have ever been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Thank you I admire you and you are correct about Dr Walker. But it is Medal of Honor. Congressional is found nowhere in the title. Common misconception.
It's awarded by congress, therefore Congressional Medal of Honor is correct.
isoldam: No, it isn't. Look it up.
www.army.mil/medalofhonor/
1970 the girls were finally allowed to wear pants to school.
WOAH omg women freedom!
About then in my school too, except we had to wait for the bus at -40 F!
birdsdaword I remember it was below zero outside and us girls were forced to go out and play during recess. One girl wore a pair of pants to school and was told to take them off or go home. She went home. She came to school the next day and said her mother told her to tell all the girls to come to school in pants. Most of us did, then all of us did. The following year none of us wore dresses. It was lovely.😁
birdsdaword most schools in my country require uniforms so it not having the greatest time
In the 60's too i guess, and mini skirts too. The 50's were still very conservative tho omg
Nothing like fabric to freak people out
It's not the fabric, it's the symbolism attached to it. And it's understandable.
no Kyjo...its just fabric
Not like anyone every used it for something like germ warfare or anything .... specifically smallpox in blankets~ -_-
my opinions are facts It doesn't take much to challenge some people's world views, and they really hate that.
kyjo72682 No, it's not understandable. It's nobody else's business how you dress. People need to learn how to mind their own business and let other people live their own lives.
The enthusiasm in your delivery is awesome to behold.
Ikr
I agree. You can hear the energy in her voice.
I like it
I want to know exactly how an article of clothing can be assigned gender. Almost any item you name had a different assignment in the past, and/or has a different assignment currently in some other culture. All my life I've run up against this idea that guys aren't allowed to be cute. My wardrobe would be vastly different of society wasn't dictating it to me.
Then change your wardrobe, and by doing so change your society. Inspire future generations by being something greater than what was expected of you. Be so cute it melts their hatred and dissolves their ignorance, and through your courage make others feel safer to be themselves as well.
Cultural norms, tradition, law.
Yes, almost every piece of clothing has at one time or another or in one place or another been used by male or female, but not in the same time, space, and people.
U.S. American men do not wear thawbs, in the past, and conceivably, not anytime soon in a general sense. Make it a bit "masculine" in an American male's eyes and I would argue you have a duster (coat) or possibly capes
You could almost say all clothing is variations on a lion cloth and/or a simply tunic and a girdle/belt
A language where everything has a gender is the only appropriate answer.
By practicality (it fits a body type), and by customs and traditions which evolved based on it.
dudes 100% use to wear tights with bows. Please just be cute.
I dream of a day when the light side can wield red sabers, and the dark can wield blue or green without prejudice.
Some day my friend, some day
It is possible.
@@fuzzytheduck where can we learn such secrets ? ( Not from a jedi ).
I hate to break your dreams, but, that would only be possible if one obtained another’s lightsaber. “Bleeding” a Crystal to make it red in Star Wars can only be done by focusing on pure hatred and other negative emotions. And “grey Jedi” (as far as I know) are mostly know to wield white/grey lightsabers. Though Darth Revan was know to wield a purple lightsaber and he was a “grey Jedi” at one point. Though your comment might have been a joke seeing as the rules are (mostly) well know.
@@Nicholas32906 Heyyy a lore-based response! I think the original comment was referring more to the idea that color does not necessarily denote intention, some good people like red and some “bad” people like blue/green.
But yes, according to the original cannon, that’s not really how lightsabers work,...
I once saw a kid’s show, and they had two princesses, one was good, and the other was an evil imposter, and in order to differentiate them visually to the viewers, the original one had brown eyes, and the evil one had green eyes.,,
I have green eyes,,.
I was so triggered... 😂
It seems like throughout history people wanted to be able to tell at once, by looking at someone what their "place" was in Society, so they would know at once how to treat them. To some degree, a loosening of the rules of dress seems to go along with the idea of treating people equally regardless of their "place".
This- also I really wish they'd brought up a bit more about how these laws specifically effected and continue to effect transgender people by grouping our existence in with sex crimes and "indecency" in law though that's probably a whole other video by itself
I just think there's a parallel to be drawn with how lot of anti-trans/ transphobic people want to be able to tell what genitals someone has by looking at them and see that as being their right in a similar way as the upper class saw it as their right to "be able to tell with one look who is below me" . Controlling what people wear has always been about oppressing marginalised groups- Terfs today will attack gay and gender non conforming cis women or women of colour who they deem as "not feminine enough" and claim that they are trans women using dehumanising and objectifying language.
I remember when I was working in retail when I woukd be constantly asked "what I was" because people couldn't tell what my ethnicity was just by looking at me. If I gave the "wrong" answer then they might have treated me like garbage.
I always answered a martian from Mars just to give them an idea of how stupid that question is. Though I was always treated like garbage if I said no to any of the demands.
so,,, kind of like middle and high school,, kids can be mean~
psychopaths could completely take advantage of this system...
Look into old Ireland. Everyone had to wear a different color based on their class/job.
The school dress code thing annoys me to the core.
When I was in middle and high school, I was always dress coded and I HATED IT. I'd be coded for showing too much shoulder, back, and/or leg. And the school made me put an ugly shirt or gym shirts over what I was wearing. I hated it.
If I have a daughter and they try to pull that mess on her, I'm cussing the school out.
Remember when men had to cross-dress for theater productions? Weird how things change, and then change again for different reasons.
because society.
Well things change 🤷 that's how time works
dr. james barry was a trans man... he lived his life as a man and didn’t want anyone inspecting his body even after his death. people need to stop claiming he was a woman who just wanted to practice medicine and be a soldier. otherwise very informative video though.
But it's not known for sure, it could be both
When I was 2-4 my babysitter was a drag queen but because we lived in the middle of Idaho we got the cops called on us every time we went to the park even though it was a small town and everyone knew everyone so we eventually had to restrict our tutu parades to home but that gos to show that even if there aren't still technically laws in the US people sometimes act like it :(
The Tignon Laws deserve a mention here. As far as I know, the laws didn't claim to be anything other than discrimination against black women.
You say this mostly affects women yet men wearing dresses or skirts is still completely out of the question basically everywhere whereas women wearing pants or suits are completely accepted in the developed world. It feels difficult to think of any masculine clothing item that would be unacceptable for a woman to wear nowadays or even one that you couldn’t get a variation of in the women’s section, whereas vice versa there are many that would get a man ridiculed if not worse (not just skirts but also blouses, crop tops, bralettes, bikinis, hotpants, tights, leggings, rompers, high heels, tube tops, etcetera, etcetera)
That is true men cant wear the opiset since clothing still holds a status and womens clothing is seen inferior in some way.
Ahh, the church of women worsting.
"Men are shamed if they wear women's clothing because men see women's clothing as inferior"
Aka, men hurt men because they hate women, and that hurts women most!
Such idiocy.
@@rainynight02 eh, I've actually heard someone use that argument. "do you really want to look like a weak little girl?" sooo... It's not always the case but it is used as reasoning. My church believes that both women wearing pants and men wearing dresses is equally as shameful though so I wasn't raised with that mindset. I really don't care what other people wear.
Yeah well, in society only girls and women can get gender equality, rights, liberation, individuality. And, the biggest obstacle to men's would be ironically other men.
Boys get raised to suppress their girly, and feminine, sides. For instance girls can usually have long or short hair, but boys only short.
I love that the viewers of this channel help by commenting to make this videos more accurate together and not in a shameful or rude way. :D
I was a cross dresser in secret much of my life, even in the Army. I could pass Rona degree. I am a former combat soldier, father, husband and teacher. There was nothing immoral about what I did. I love the feel of petticoats and full skirts. High heels felt right, but hurt. It all came to an end in my 60's. Passing became more difficult. I did give it up freely. Now and then I might dream about wearing a full swirly skirt. Occasionally when I am alone at night and home I will slip on a cute pleated skirt and sit out on the patio by firelight. I'm happy being a man, but just love the feeling of some femme attire. I'm glad I did it. I was know as Erin of Donegal. In all my 50 years I was never putted or harmed. Loved singing at Karaoke, but not in a female voice. I sang as Elvis, blew the crowds minds. It was a crazy ride, I would never have missed for the world.
Why does this channel not have more subscribers its really good
Y W The channel is relatively new… RUclips's algorithm is stupid and slow so one has to give it time. 😀 I might not have known about it if it weren't for some recommendation on a sister channel or some other sort of organic process. 🤔
Yeah...I think I only heard about it the same way pixelized did--from a reccommendation off to the side of a sister-channel's video. In my case I think it was It's Okay To Be Smart? or possibly Eons. One of those.(Of course, I'd also say that people should be watching ALL of those three! :))
Robin Chesterfield In my case it might have been through a recommendation from The Art Assignment.🤔 Until RUclips gets with the program so to say, I guess it's up to us "squishy things" to promote good content…
Y W It's growing quite fast. I think it will continue to grow. we just have to continue to support!
Eric Barnes It sure deserves that growth and, yeah, we can keep sharing, liking and interacting… the kind of stuff RUclips's algorithm likes. 😉
It's important to remember that some of these people afab (assigned female at birth) may not have identified as women. At the same time we also can't really apply modern terms like "transgender" to them with any certainty or authority because we just don't know how they would feel about these terms.
I bring this up because in some of these cases- like Dr. James Barry- their gender presentation could've been about their personal identity just as much as (if not more than) it was about social status. Like I said, we can't say for certain that Dr. Barry would've identified as trans. But there is a strong case for it as Dr. Barry's final wishes were to not be undressed before burial, however these wishes were not honored and thus they were outed.
It seems contradictory to say that we probably shouldn't refer to them as women but also shouldn't label them as trans either. But there are ways around it. Sometimes gender neutral pronouns like "they" and other terms like "afab"/"amab" come in handy in these situations. But an even simpler way to handle these things is to just put a disclaimer or footnote out there that says "We're going to refer to them in this way but we don't really know how they would have identified".
Great video, btw! I was always curious as to how these laws came about.
Excelent point, agree with each word. Hope Danielle would add this point in the end of her next video.
I think the thing with Dr. Barry was it was a woman who wanted to be a doctor, but had to pretend to be a man in order to practice.
Or... we can just call them women or men until we know for sure that they identified as something else. I am a butch lesbian. I dress in mostly men's clothes. I am a woman for all intents and purposes, address me as such because I have not made it clear that I am trans. Stop trying to force society to change the way it views sex and gender. If it changes, it will only do so naturally and over time with wide spread consensus.
@T Mystery
Do you also want other people to assume you're straight? Clothing is definitively no proof for your sexuality either.
I mean, as a butch lesbian you don't experience the same invisibility as a femme lesbian or a bisexual person... but maybe you remember being invisible from the time before you came out. Asking can get annoying but it is always better than putting all the burden of coming out again and again on the person themself. No offense (I love butches) but I don't want to turn into a walking stereotype to show people how gay I am. I love skirts, makeup and girly things - and I should not be required to wear rainbow wristbands or gay-themed t-shirts to remind people that not everyone's cishet.
Me being a tomboy, they would've killed or jail me! 😩
Same but in femboy
Same😔
Same here!
Nah you wouldn’t have broken the rules during that time
Only way to count number of "female (or male) clothing items": is a female wearing? Yes? Then it's a female clothing article! 😆
You can still see rules regarding clothing and class in the workplace. One of the small things that pushed me to finish school was not having to wear khaki pants and uniform shirts in whatever work I wound up in.
Question - why is prostitution illegal in the U S yet it is still legal , in many states, to have sex with an animal?
It might be interesting to do a show about the evolution of women's hemlines.
Or men's
During the past 100 years skirt length changed with the economy: strong economy - short skirts, weak economy - long(er) skirts. Unless it’s in a religious extremist environment where women are always blamed for men who can’t control their sexual urges.
When I came out in San Francisco in the late 60s, some (working) drags wore (1) a man's shorts and (2 & 3) a sock in each bra half to qualify as the required three items of men's clothing. I expect this was more pro forma, though, as the law may still have been on the books.
I feel the need to say that when I was only allowed to wear pants to school for the first time in 2002.
I just want to point out that crossdressing was a major problem for Joan of Arc too and a large part of the excuse the English used to put her to death.
When I started school in the 1990s my mum got called in to see the teacher because I had worn (the school uniform) trousers to school instead of the skirt. She was warned to never do it again or I would be punished! So even in the UK this went on for far too long!
I enjoy crossdressing and can’t imagine being arrested for it!
I love to crossdressing n can't imagine being arrested for ti to.
The evidence suggests that James Barry was probably what we would now consider a trans man-after he had completed his training, his friends offered to arrange for him to travel to South America, where he could have practised medicine openly as a woman, but he declined. He also took very great pains to make sure his anatomical sex wouldn’t be discovered after his death, requesting that his body be buried in his bedsheets “without further inspection”.
In my school, guys aren't allowed to wear earrings, skirts, and a few different types of shoes. It's pretty much the same dress code as they had when the school was founded (in the 1950s), except for long hair on guys, which they started to allow.
Can we start normalizing masc presenting people wearing femme clothing please I'm getting tired of the discrimination held against them for no good or rational reason.
Frankly, if someone who is female is wearing it, I think it counts as female clothing.
I look forward to the day when violence & war are declared illegal. Ya think? Nawwww........too much money to be made.
I remember back when I went to private elementary school and we had this uniform where girls only wore skirts and stockings and those little jumper dress thingies. And we didn’t start being able to wear the khakis pants the boys wore until about 1st grade (2010). I found it interesting when I found out about it because I hadn’t even realized that it was a rule. I’d just assumed that all the other little girls hated wearing pants as much as I did🤷🏾♀️
some women like to wear pants and some like dresses and skirts just stop annoying people about it. its bad because some people say that it is bad to wear pants because its "men's clothes" or telling women that they cant wear a dresses because they are "conforming to society" stop just stop let people wear what they want
As long as it proper. You just can't let people roaming around in their underwear.
Great and informative video! I want to acknowledge that the host is a female POC, and how great it is to find channels on RUclips (especially educational channels) hosted by a woman and a POC. We need more of these (in the US, at least).
This video needs to be updated given recent legislation. There's a lot of conservatives trying to bring these kinds of laws back on the books at the moment.
As they should
I don't really know how I feel about the school uniform thing. It was always annoying for me, personally, but I also know wrangling kids on a tight budget and trying to teach them isn't easy either. I feel like a child psychologist would be the best person to ask these questions. But if we asked a psychologist for anything in America... well...
I like the idea of uniforms bc it's allot cheaper to dress a kid in a uniform. You don't have to worry about what the other kids are wearing and if your clothing will help you fit in. When I was in school, my father bought our school clothes from the dollar stores. I was embarrassed that I didn't have fashionable clothing so I got a job and got my clothing from thrift stores. I did not and do not appreciate that lesson. BTW he had the money, he just did not want to spend it on my mothers' children she had with him.
I don't mind uniforms in general, I do mind that dress codes are used to punish girls for having shoulders (yes, really, google it) and wearing shorts. Because those sexy, sexy shoulders on the 13 year old girl are soooo sexy that they will distract the boys from learning. So girls get pulled out of classrooms, which does not distract the girls from learning of course, to check their clothing and make them wear something else. Boys meanwhile have like one rule to follow. Make uniforms simpler and unisex, problem solved. Workplace dress codes sometimes require women to wear heels, which are cause long term and sometimes permanent damage to the feet, legs and back. I don't think many workplaces would require men to wear an item of clothing that would cause damage just by wearing it.
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MEN HAVE NEVER BEEN BANNED FROM WEARING PINK? It was a gender neutral color before 1940s.
Yes! I like sound! :D
Oddly, I first began to notice this sort of thing when I realized my workplace dress code was more permissive for women than men. They allowed women to wear sleeveless shirts and head scarves, whereas men weren't allowed to wear anything on their heads, and a similar exception was made for dresses. They didn't so much say that been couldn't wear dresses as they defined the acceptable criteria for dresses in terms of how women could choose to dress.
I really love the editing and the added visual representation of the topics! Amazing work.
James lived his life as a man. He was perceived as a man, he wanted to be perceived as a man, so I suspect he identified as one. He could have been a trans man, because trust me, living your life as a gender you don't identify with is hell. A cis woman would eventually crack, haha.
Did you know during the Victorian era pink was used for little boy clothing, and all children up to a certain age wore dresses.
All hail the majestic Flying Spaghetti Monster !
Ramen!
Another super-being to be consumed by the IPU, yum!
Heresy. "There is only the Emperor, and he is you Shield and Protectot." Book of the Astronomicon page 67
You had to mention spaghetti! Now I'm hungry. Where's my pasta? Thanks a lot e4!!
I looove how every single photographic example of cross dressing you show from the past is f***ing gorgeous 🌟
Get better tastw, lawmakers 😉
It is a piece of fabric should not be fucking regulated.
this was just as good as i was hoping! thank you for fixing the lack of audio!
Now with more sound! :-D
What a neat channel. And to think, if it hadn't been for that PBS survey I might never have heard of it 😅
Thank you so much for this video
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It helps me feel empowered to rock both, dress and suits as a trans man and not to care about what anybody says!!!
So much love to you and your channel
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I always thought it was strange my mom "had to" wear dresses when she was growing up....didn't realize it was a case of "it's against the law" and not a case of "strict parents and teachers"!
Cross dressing in the theatre has actually been normal for centuries. In Shakespeare's day women weren't allowed on stage so all female characters were played by men and boys. In the 19th century music halls of England, cross dressing acts were common with both male and female performers. And even today, the pantomime still makes use of cross-dressing.
Danielle, you are a fantastic writer and host! I love the content from this channel!!
In the USa in the 1970s,I encountered Christians who still believed that women wearing pants was wrong and was the same as men wearing dresses.
Why did you jump from the historical laws across the world restricting dress due to status, to the earliest gendered crossdressing laws specifically in the USA?
If your tracking the history of the subect in general then shouldn't you mention where and when the first law came about and how it spread, rather than just when it happened in USA?
I notice it a lot with USA based videos, often when talking about the first time an ideolagy, trend or law becomes popular they only talk about the USA's history with it not the wider world. It's fine to present a show following the USA's history with things like this but can't really call it the origin of everything if you're only concerned with when and where the subject matter started in the USA.
To be fair, it is a US channel and aimed at the US population so it would naturally zero in on US based issues. Otherwise, where would you draw the line? At strictly Western History? That would also make it less than global. In the interest of time, you have to make choices about what you do and don't cover.
By the title of the channel, the video intro and the paragraph below the video it advertises its self as a general fact/history channel, not a USA one.
Why draw a line, it's supposed to be the history of laws against cross-dressing so mention the pertinent facts relating to that subject. They should have at least linked the ancient history to the modern day by mentioning which country first made it a law, which had the most laws or which punished those prosecuted hardest before focusing on America. They cut out a large part of "the origin" of the history of the laws to jump to the USA,
I find its something unique to American documentaries, often they only mention what year something was invented but often not who, where, why or how something was invented if it wasn't in the USA. For example, I was watching a US program supposedly on how the steam train changed "the world", they only stated that the steam train was invented in 1804 then with no other information offered they jumped to an in-depth look at when the railways arrived in American and how they grew and changed the landscape of the USA. This would have been a good documentary if it was the history of the American railway but it was supposed to be about the effect of the steam train on the world.
Lady Lockett, I hear you. But the honest answer is that most Americans don't care about the rest of the world in any detail. Not me, of course. I am a geographer so it matters greatly to me and I try every day to remedy that situation. There is a great quote I like to give my fellow countrymen "War is the gods way of teaching Americans geography." That being said, NPR is an American channel. It is basically the American version of the BBC. And as the largest English speaking economy in the world, you might be able to forgive the average American their myopic view of the world, as well as the products made to cater to them. The short answer is that if the channel went into greater detail and covered the entire global history of any one of the subjects they cover, the average consumer would tune out. It would simply be too long. I guess you could say tha the title should be "How the Steam Train Changed OUR world." Unfortunate, but it is a reality. Peace.
Lady Lockett
The problem with doing a global perspective is that history tends to be written in the language of the people who care about it... and that's usually the people that live in region where the history happened. So, Spanish people care about Spanish history, Canadians about Canadian history, and so on and so forth. So, these videos would end up still being English centric, because they probably wouldn't have the budget to scour through non-English speaking histories.
I don't agree, I watch a lot of documentories and more often than not those made outside of the US will always mention the general origin, history and facts of the subject in question and will only focus on one countries history with it only if it's of perticular note. Whereas i've noticed a trend in US based ones to only mention when or how whatever the subject is, arrived or affected America (unless of course it was invented there, then they are quite detailed on it's history).
The video focuses on one small subject not a whole country's history they could have easily mentioned the examples linking ancient and modern day I gave earlier with out it being a long video. They simply didnt want to and presented only information in regards to the USA while advertising the fact it was the general origin of the subject.
It just seems to be a trend or habit i've noticed when watching US made documentories.
My drag grand mother (my drag mothers mother) started drag in the late 60s as a 14 year old in St Louis and back then it was still illegal to cross dress. She said to get around this underneath their panty hose and pads they wore men’s briefs and men’s dress socks.
According to one of the first fashion magazines, fig leaves were the ultimate style choice, and they were unisex to boot.
I love to watch your show. Youre an excellent communicator. Hint: no need to rush. If your info is excellent people will enjoy taking it in at a more user-friendly place.
User friendly pace, not place
“If you’re a woman and wearing pants you can go to jail”
Me:EHEHE I’m wearing my pj
At 5:01 you mention that Doctor James Barry ""pretended"" to be a man, when he was actually transgender...
Joan wasn't Crossdressing, she just was a warrior woman. Outside of that she wore dresses. Even her armor was specially made to fit her feminine form, ie breasts.
That's not how we use "wicked" out here. It's close though. Lol! Thanks for the shout out none the less!
That was wicked awesome!
Season 2 confirmed.
From 2008 to 2014 there have been a series of laws against saggy pants in Michigan, Tennesee, Georgia, Louisiana, and Florida. So such clothing related laws are still getting published in the US.
Damn! How much coffee do you drink? You talk really fast. You have such interesting information but I always feel like I miss too much. I'm also a little worried about you not getting sufficient oxygen. Maybe record these before that 3rd cup or after lunch when your more relaxed. . . Unless. . . . . . . . Holy crap!. . . . . . . Your not that energetic all the time are you?! If so, I want your secret! Please!
And I thinked i put at x1.5 speed.
Men wore hose, women have stopped wearing pantyhose, now men wear them.
I got $20,000 into Uganda to a charitable org handling clubfoot during the pandemic while wearing miniskirts.
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“Should women be forced to wear high heels as part of a uniform”? I wouldn’t even have thought to word it that way. And I’m a guy! Instead, I would’ve said “Should men be allowed to wear high heels as part of their uniform if their female colleagues get to do it?” Lots of men would love to, I’m sure. Short men, for example, may wish to get taller especially if in the service sector helping customers over the counter and whatnot. What about transgender women and men? Surely they deserve a chance to put their best foot forward just like everyone else. Gender equality (or lack thereof) affects everyone. 🧐🤔🤨
@Lesbian Amazon Sister it wasn't high heels made originali for man but after the woman tried to copy them (men),the mens stop wearing them?
P.S.: happy to see you again.
High heels have been worn for centuries by both men and women. I don't know why men stopped, but it couldn't have been because women started.
I think it had to do with the fall of French monarchy. Suddenly, everyone did the impossible to avoid dressing as before, as they could be signaled as royalist. So a new fashion prevailed (the empire fashion) which was considered more "sensible" and "natural" than the previous one, and was completelly different: lack of heels for men, lack of huge skirts for women, lack of make up for both, etc... (fun note, once Napoleon lost his favour, fashion changed again, to a completelly different style)
In the 70s men wore platforms lol
I am in favour of everyone wearing whatever the hell they want, however, enforcing only women to wear footwear that is painful and causes longterm and sometimes permanent damage to the feet, legs and back is bullshit. Go wear high heels then and change the culture in your office or workplace. Women have been trying to get rid of nonsense rules in the workplace about heels for a while. Having options is the point.
So that’s why I was forced to wear a dress in first grade no matter how cold it was.
So you’re not gonna mention the couple of bible verses that prohibit cross dressing. I’m sure this was the basis on most of those laws.
Do you know how far I had to scroll down to find your comment? My thoughts exactly
I've read every book of the bible. There are no verses which specifically prohibit cross-dressing. I would not expect there to be because women and men wore basically the same clothing in ancient Israel. The basis for the laws was the connection, however tenuous, between cross-dressing and homosexuality: and/or witchcraft as in the case of Joan of Arc. The video maker kept mentioning Joan, but actually she was burnt at the stake for dressing as a man which was considered evidence of her being a witch. Although granted her real offense was serving the French King. Additionally, at least in the English-speaking world, cross-dressing was associated with the decadent Tudor establishment in the 16th century. Thus the Puritans railed against it, because they were seeking to destroy the Tudor establishment. Undoubtably they tortured some poor Bible verse to that end, but you are living in the 21st century and perfectly capable of interpreting Bible verses for yourself.
Angels are usually depicted as being both male and female, i.e. as perfected humans. God is also deemed to be both male and female. St. Paul said: "in Christ there is neither male nor female". The Bible's stance on the issue of gender-bending and cross-dressing is fairly clear: it's perfectly fine. After all, an obsession with physicality and the flesh is evil and the work of the devil. A true Christian concerns themselves only with the person beneath the flesh.
Deuteronomy 22:5 “A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."
@@rperlberg Technically that verse could be referring to clothes for religious services or telling women not to steal men's clothes. Remember everyone wore robes back then, and robes are basically dresses for men.
+rperlberg, alright I stand corrected. There's one, in the book of rules that hardly anyone follows. The reasons why rules against things are made is never really to do with religion unless the state in question is a theocracy. It's to do with politics. The rules against cross-dressing in America were made because the people who founded the original colonies were all rebelling against the Tudor establishment, which tolerated cross-dressing.
I LOVE the urgency of your delivery. It completely fits the subject matter
The history you gave was very Eurocentric. In many other nations, crossdressing was and is accepted, but that wasn't even mentioned.
Hey! Just FYI the photo on the left you used for Sarah Edmon is actually Albert Cashier, an AFAB soldier for the Union army in the Civil War. Albert is often interpreted by historians as a transgender man since Albert continued to present as a man until their death nearly 60 years after the war ended (although of course we can’t say for sure how they would have identified).
In UK the judges wear wigs, robes and stockings but they have stopped powdering their faces.
Hello. I have a suggestion. I'm curious to know about time. Who invented the 24 hour cycle? Why 24 hours? Why didn't we divide the day in 20 hours, for example? Or 50? And why 60 minutes per hour? Why not divide an hour in 100 parts and call each one a minute? Wouldn't that fit our decimal math model better? I mean, we divide each second in 1000 milliseconds. And what came first? The second, the minute or the hour?
Thank you so much for considering my suggestion.
Love your show. I think it is very original and I learn a lot from it. Thank you (and your team) for all your hard work.
You can find a lot of other videos on youtube about this. I'd rather see them make a video on a topic that hasn't been talked about much.
I am a straight male but I wear the exact same kind of clothes all of my lesbian friends wear. Am I cross dressing as a lesbian?
My daughter’s school separated all the girls to lecture them on the evils of skinny jeans. According to the principal it was for their own “safety”. Apparently the boys at her school had so little self-control that seeing the outline of a girls leg would trigger an uncontrollable sexual reaction from them.
New subscriber here. Your enthusiasm for the subjects is captivating. I am now hooked.
I loved this, so informative, thank you! But I had a question, was this statement at the start of the video phrased correctly: "there were laws in many countries that forbade a person to appear publicly in clothes that didn’t align with their biological sex.”? I think the word choice of “biological sex” here implies that there is an alignment between pants and people with XY chromosomes and dresses/skirts and people with XX chromosomes (this is an example of gendered clothing offered as an example at the start of the video)... I am wondering if ‘gender’ might be a better word choice, or perhaps including both, something like: ‘. . . in clothes that didn't align with the assumed gender based solely on a person's biological sex."
1984, us Army added pants to Women's Dress Greens.
While overall this was an informative and well done video, listing Dr. James Barry as a woman who dressed as a man is incorrect and can come off as disrespectful. Calling him a trans man would also be inaccurate as that language was not used at the time, but he lived as a man even outside an academic context and deserves that respect- he went as far as specifically requesting to be referred to as a man in his intimate relationships, and concealing his assigned at birth sex even in death. He is an important figure in the history of queer rights and deserves to be treated with respect.
The definition of an item of female clothing is any piece of clothes that a woman or girl wears. The end.
Loved this video! The contextualisation within clothing regulating legislation in history was very useful and thoughtful!
As long as someone’s nether regions are covered idgaf how they dress. Why do we as humans feel the need to regulate another person’s appearance?
And on the issue of purity, women are _always the one with the longer list of clothes that are "big no no's" compared with men._
Look at those historical pictures. The strength those people had.
Even the transgender community was fighting back then. I had no idea that there were people brave enough to do so long ago, it's never talked about.
(Wish it was cause I'm trans.)
I am lucky to be born in a country where schools have no dress regulations whatsoever (ok, you can’t show up naked, but who would do that anyways). And guess what? Students are NOT distracted by a shoulder, collarbone or a girl in a croptop. Amazing right?
I hate to correct you on this but James Barry is considered a transgender man by many, including himself.
"If you're a woman and you're wearing pants right now, you could be arrested"
*looks down at her legs*
Shit I AM wearing pants
I don't think that uniforms should even exist in the first place. I don't mind the vests that let customers know who works in a store in case they need help finding something. Also safety equipment like wearing a hard hat on a construction site is totally ok. I don't really consider that as a uniform.
What I consider a uniform is when every single article of clothing you have on was selected for you by someone else and is 100% identical to the clothing worn by everyone else in your field. There might be differences between the uniforms worn by different genders but other than gender differences you're dressed exactly like everyone else. This removes individuality from people when they all look the same. And there's no legitimate reason that things should ever be taken this far in the first place.
So no I don't think you should be required to wear heels if it's part of a uniform. Heels don't constitute safety equipment, actually they're the complete opposite of safe. And no one is going to be looking at your feet to tell if you work there. So I don't think anyone has the right to tell you that you must be in heels.
One of the nice details in the Temeraire series was when a Navy captain found out Longwing riders had to be female, and Lawrence says "don't worry there's a secret amendment to the sumptuary law"
Because they knew, back then, if you give these people even an inch, they will turn Disney gay.
wtf do you mean?
Im pretty sure giving a man a dress doesn't mean they would turn an entire company gay
Three items of 'female clothing'
1. pants
2. socks
3. bracelet
DONE!
As for counting women's garments, I would get incredibly irate and go at whoever was trying to determine if I was wearing at least three for "daring to ask to see my undergarments!"