The Homophobic Origins of U.S. Law

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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    Laws are intended to maintain order and promote justice, but what happens when those laws promote and spread discrimination and bigotry? Today Danielle analyzes the homophobic history of US law, tracing its origins in colonialism all the way to present-day court cases like Obergefell v. Hodges. This is the second video in our examination of legal discrimination in the United States.
    Special thanks to our Historians Harry Brisson and Melanie-Antonietta Brown and Archivists Rachel Brice, Mathilda Murray, and Jafra D. Thomas on Patreon!
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    Works Cited:
    Queer (In)Justice: The Criminalization of LGBT People in the United States by Andrea Ritchie, Joey L. Mogul, and Kay Whitlock
    From the Closet to the Courtroom Carlos A. Ball and Michael Bronski
    The Deviant’s War: The Homosexual vs. The United States of America Eric Cervini
    Black on Both Sides: A Racial History of Trans Identity C. Riley Snorton
    www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/us...
    www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...
    time.com/5554531/equality-act...
    www.vox.com/2015/4/22/8465027...
    Race, Gender and Punishment: From Colonialism to the War on Terror ed. Mary Bosworth and Jeanne Flavin
    Chapter 11: “Latina Imprisonment and the War on Drugs” Juanita Diaz-Cotto
    The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America Richard Rothstein
    Arresting Citizenship: The Democratic Consequences of American Crime Control Vesla Weaver and Amy E. Lerman
    Conquest: Sexual Violence and American Indian Genocide Andrea Smith
    The Delectable Negro: Human Consumption and Homoeroticism within US Slave Culture Vincent Woodard
    www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us...
    www.thenation.com/article/arc...
    Dishonorable Passions: Sodomy Laws in America 1861-2003 William N. Eskridge Jr.

Комментарии • 444

  • @richardw2977
    @richardw2977 3 года назад +495

    As a middle aged, straight, white man, I admit that my exposure to many these topics has been limited. Certainly, I can only view topics like black culture in America or LGBTQ issues from the outside. I appreciate the continued work of this channel to help us all understand where we've come from and to open an honest and respectful debate of where we want to go.

    • @CrystalWilliamsoncoach
      @CrystalWilliamsoncoach 3 года назад +64

      As a middle aged, straight, Black women, I'm glad you're part of the conversation now. Not a snarky comment - just being grateful

    • @eomguel9017
      @eomguel9017 3 года назад +23

      As a middle aged, straight, white man, your recognition is highly valued, because you belong to the historically most privileged group of the post-colonial societies in the Americas. I get the impression that you are a sensitive person who opposes injustice. If that's the case, I believe you would also appreciate Johnny Harris' channel and his videos on "How the US stole...," check it out, and most importantly, use your innate privileged position to raise awareness get the message across. Lots of wrongdoings in the US's past that demand reparation.
      ruclips.net/user/johnnymangosteen

    • @willofiron26
      @willofiron26 3 года назад +21

      I too would be happy to help you understand the issues one of these communities face. I am an out and proud gay man (also white and approaching middle age). I understand how it is hard to understand communities outside of your own and can provide additional resources. try checking out Matt Blume's Culture Cruise (looking at pop culture and the LGBTI+ community).

    • @arneneleakes
      @arneneleakes 3 года назад +23

      This comment thread brought a smile to my face😀. Sending you all a virtual hug!

    • @karminyates3261
      @karminyates3261 3 года назад +5

      Crystal Williamson Thanking him for the bare minimum. Bar is in hell.

  • @stini334
    @stini334 3 года назад +308

    Would love this concept to be a series. There could be so many topics explored, like the treatment of Native American rights or immigrants under the law.

    • @elizabethdavis1696
      @elizabethdavis1696 3 года назад +15

      Or issues of children’s right or elder care protections

    • @freshencounter
      @freshencounter 3 года назад

      Oooo, yeah!

    • @PhosphorAlchemist
      @PhosphorAlchemist 3 года назад +8

      @Mixed Knight Fool Without evidence? What are you talking about? Did you miss the three scholarly books Danielle cited in the video or the 8 state and federal Supreme Court cases? Or do facts and sources not count as evidence if they contradict your personal agenda?

    • @freshencounter
      @freshencounter 3 года назад +7

      Mixed Knight Fool Who me? Oh, it’s part of my work as a diversity trainer. Most of this is easily found online with citations. It’s also true that you may have to dig a bit deeper. For example it’s easy to find information about the first Transgender person, We’ah, who was accepted as a guest by then President Cleavand; nothing you’ll learn about in your sex Ed class. It’s harder to find some of the magnificent work provided here.
      There are a few citations throughout.
      I’m grateful, and hope more people will be willing to do their own investigations before criticizing the work that went into this video. The internet makes it easy.

    • @WolfNymph
      @WolfNymph 3 года назад

      I agree! I got to the end of the video and found myself wanting a lot more detail.

  • @Hallows4
    @Hallows4 3 года назад +350

    If you plan on doing a part III, how about "The Sexist Origins of U.S. Law"?

    • @ArticBlueFox96
      @ArticBlueFox96 3 года назад +33

      Or the Ableist Origins

    • @stevenbrawley326
      @stevenbrawley326 3 года назад +2

      @@ArticBlueFox96
      I'm gonna watch her videos on the ugly laws to see if that counts as about ablism.

    • @IceNixie0102
      @IceNixie0102 3 года назад +3

      @@ArticBlueFox96 YES I was going to say, since the Disability Rights movement didn't FINALLY get legal rights till the 1990's. Like wtf. PLEASE do this history!!!

    • @IceNixie0102
      @IceNixie0102 3 года назад +1

      @@stevenbrawley326 It did touch on it, pretty well, but didn't actually cover the Disability Rights movement, or the ADA.

    • @ieatlemons288
      @ieatlemons288 3 года назад

      @@ArticBlueFox96 lmao ableist yeah it was the 1700s everyone was rude to disabledd people

  • @brittanylester12
    @brittanylester12 3 года назад +142

    I really love this channel. History is my favorite subject. I love how informative and honest you are about the dark sides of history. This is the history i wanted to be exposed to in high school

    • @rparl
      @rparl 3 года назад +6

      When I think back on all the crap I learned in High School, it's a wonder I can think at all.
      And though my lack of education hasn't hurt me none, I can read the writing on the wall.
      Kodachrome.

    • @brittanylester12
      @brittanylester12 3 года назад +7

      @@rparl I understand exactly how you feel. I feel like I am constantly relearning things. I hate the fact that high school is just a giant brainwash factory that wants you to conform and blindly follow along.

    • @rparl
      @rparl 3 года назад +1

      @@brittanylester12 I have quoted that Simon and Garfunkle song more than once here on YT. You might search for Kodachrome to hear it.

    • @brittanylester12
      @brittanylester12 3 года назад +3

      @@rparl i checked out he lyrics. Hes 100% right. They y i tell people not to put all your self worth in grades. Only the most docile and obedient survive highschool

    • @jennifern1956
      @jennifern1956 3 года назад

      Exactly

  • @rparl
    @rparl 3 года назад +43

    When I was in Basic Training in 1968, we had a class session where the lieutenant said that sodomy was prohibited. When asked what sodomy was, he was VERY embarrassed and eventually replied, "A man has this thing. And a woman has this other thing. And when those two things get together, that's sex. Anything else is sodomy."

    • @dumoulin11
      @dumoulin11 3 года назад +3

      Oh boy, am I in trouble.

    • @greytgreytx
      @greytgreytx 3 года назад +10

      Yikes. Also, not technically true. But yikes.

    • @dramonmaster222
      @dramonmaster222 3 года назад +6

      LOL! Well that's one way to explain it.

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 3 года назад +2

      Also in 1968, ROTC would march around women's dorms at crack of dawn shouting insulting and colorful little ditties. No trouble saying anything then.

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 2 года назад +4

      Technically a bit correct, since "sodomy" in many jurisdictions included acts such as oral sex, masturbation, bestiality or other sex acts that cannot results in procreation, even between people of opposite sex or married couples

  • @wolfcat1998
    @wolfcat1998 3 года назад +72

    I'm just here to see how many people get offended by the idea that everyone should be treated equally and it's no one's business who they love.
    Seriously, you really gotta wonder about people who are so focused on what other people do with their junk.

    • @greytgreytx
      @greytgreytx 3 года назад +12

      But also, reducing any sexuality to a sex act is one way that people are dehumanized, you know? I'm heterosexual (also demisexual, as my teenager pointed out to me... I'd never heard of it, but it's not wrong) and married, and maybe .02% of my relationship with my partner is about our "junk." Believe me, we'd rather have it more about that, but we have a very high-energy, high-needs little kid who doesn't seem to require sleep. Anyway, people's relationships, even if they are shaped by their physical attraction, are rich and complex and beautiful. The anti-gay proponents have to find something to latch on to, so it's always the "ick" factor of a sex act. And over-sexualizing gay folks was a really effective way to brand them "deviants." It was also a weapon used against black women (to justify white guys raping them) and black men (to accuse them of raping the virginal white ladies) .
      Still, your point is taken. I had an older friend once who had quite a few kids, and a mutual friend was laughing once and said, "I can't even imagine you having sex!" My friend was pretty offended, but not by the incredulity. She said, "I can't imagine you TRYING to imagine my having sex." MYOB about that, man. It's not hurting you or affecting you in any way, actually.

    • @sahirygnobehi6448
      @sahirygnobehi6448 3 года назад +2

      @@greytgreytx .. DANG, ya spilled some T. Added with knowledge. Yassss 👍👍👍

    • @sahirygnobehi6448
      @sahirygnobehi6448 3 года назад +1

      Reality CHECK ✔. It is what it is. Many of us are allies. While many of our own heterosexual brethren aren't.✌

    • @princessbuttercup8954
      @princessbuttercup8954 3 года назад

      Truth!

    • @aought2
      @aought2 3 года назад +4

      @Eugene Fisher CONTROL, control a person's sexual and reproductive choices and you control them.

  • @elizabethdavis1696
    @elizabethdavis1696 3 года назад +107

    Children’s or elderly rights would be interesting topics to cover as well

  • @thinkfact
    @thinkfact 3 года назад +38

    What's also interesting are the exceptions that were made towards exceptional homosexual individuals such as revolutionary war hero Baron Friedrich von Steuben. George Washington literally gave him a house, with an understanding that this man is gay and is likely going to be living with another man after the war. It's well known that other founding fathers heavily implied that he was gay. Yet ultimately, he was protected.
    He's a very interesting exception for the time..

    • @memy2605
      @memy2605 3 года назад +8

      Never heard of him before, interesting story indeed. I read some German sources just now and apparently the very reason he came to the US was his homosexuality since he lost all of his positions in Europe for it.

    • @memy2605
      @memy2605 3 года назад +6

      Also, most sources don't mention it. You can tell they were based on some "formal" old versions of written down history.

    • @antoinetteponzo1569
      @antoinetteponzo1569 3 года назад +16

      there is always the "exception". Von Steuben was the gay version of "our n----r" He's okay and protected because he doesn't offend the sensibilities of the dominant culture. This serves two purposes. First the discriminated against population can be pacified by the carrot of being treated like "normal" people if they just behave, while suffering under the stick of discrimination and oppression. Second the dominant culture can feel good about themselves. "See we don't treat all of "Them" badly, just the ones who deserve it.

    • @justaname6011
      @justaname6011 3 года назад +5

      @@antoinetteponzo1569 very interesting and mostly accurate explanation. Thank you for sharing it with us.

    • @guilhermenaoedasuaconta1578
      @guilhermenaoedasuaconta1578 2 года назад

      .

  • @lydiajude8017
    @lydiajude8017 3 года назад +10

    Great video! I really appreciate the accurate and on-time captions.

  • @MaximilianOOO491
    @MaximilianOOO491 3 года назад +2

    Make this into a series. It’s so important to educate ppl on the history of these issues

  • @kevinhrankowski734
    @kevinhrankowski734 3 года назад +1

    I love how well researched and cited your videos are. Like an oral essay. :)

  • @Vixxen_Viktoria
    @Vixxen_Viktoria 3 года назад +44

    Thank you for doing this video. My wife and I love your channel!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @vilanyas.1808
    @vilanyas.1808 3 года назад +8

    EXCELLENT!!! This stuff is absolutely FASCINATING and it’s wonderful to learn about stuff that not only we were DENIED in SCHOOL, but is CRUCIAL to learn, especially if you fall into any of these persecuted groups (both for me, so far!!!) Looking forward to more! ❤️🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @luisaah5707
    @luisaah5707 3 года назад +1

    I love your videos. That is really informative. You deal with tough topics. Thanks for your work and sharing with us.

  • @SuperManning11
    @SuperManning11 3 года назад +4

    Danielle is such a top notch presenter. Something about her voice and tone make me sit up and listen carefully. This is a fascinating topic on such an important social issue.

  • @HugAProbe4
    @HugAProbe4 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are always super wonderful to listen to

  • @CalTxDude
    @CalTxDude 3 года назад

    I found your channel only a few weeks ago... I've learned so much from your videos! Thank you so very much

  • @princessbuttercup8954
    @princessbuttercup8954 3 года назад +3

    Just found this channel a week ago and I'm obsessed! So many different topics that are informative. It's hard to put yourself in others shoes but educating yourself goes a long way. I live my life by two golden rules, 'Do unto others as you would have them do to you' and 'Mind ya business'. If we all did this the world would be a better place for us all. I don't care what goes on in your home life as long as it's between consenting adults. I just don't care and I don't know why anyone else does either!

  • @madam_mim
    @madam_mim 3 года назад +37

    I wish you'd talked about other laws that aren't specifically designed to criminalize homosexuality, but further cultural homophobia, such as the legal insanity defense that men could use if they killed or beat a gay man who came onto them.

    • @ulyssemartinfrigault1021
      @ulyssemartinfrigault1021 3 года назад +7

      ah yes, the infamous "gay panic", which i believe is still a viable excuse in some states- though I COULD BE WRONG.

    • @Lumi_Lumi13
      @Lumi_Lumi13 3 месяца назад

      @@ulyssemartinfrigault1021 You're not.

  • @teaumanport
    @teaumanport 3 года назад +26

    I love how strait-forward and informative these videos are. Would love to see one of the history of discrimination through immigration policy, there is a ton to cover there. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @Imperiused
    @Imperiused 3 года назад +1

    This is excellent content. More people need to find this channel!

  • @GuliversTravelocity
    @GuliversTravelocity 3 года назад

    These are so great. Good job I always learn something new.

  • @andyiswonderful
    @andyiswonderful 3 года назад

    I really enjoy your videos. You are very articulate, and your subjects are researched well.

  • @DutchOrBelgian
    @DutchOrBelgian 3 года назад +2

    I love your deep dives!!

  • @hollyrashell
    @hollyrashell 3 года назад +3

    This was amazing!!!❤️

  • @verdimundi4532
    @verdimundi4532 Год назад

    I love this show so much!!! Please keep doing more, love to everyone involved

  • @Just_One_Tree
    @Just_One_Tree 3 года назад

    Thank you for another great video on an important topic!

  • @Takemetopigfarts
    @Takemetopigfarts 3 года назад

    I love this series! So much!

  • @ryananderson3997
    @ryananderson3997 3 года назад +3

    At 40, LBGT History is my last college course for my Bachelor's degree in Business Administration. This has been fascinating, and this woman is one of the best speakers I think I've ever heard. She's so clear and straightforward, and must have amazing lungs because I ran out of breath listening, lol. I grew up in the 80s, am straight and white, and have had limited exposure to a lot of these topics, but you can believe I've listening now.

  • @skydiaz8151
    @skydiaz8151 3 года назад +1

    Great content!

  • @thescoobymike
    @thescoobymike 3 года назад +83

    As a Christian, it really baffles me how people could interpret Jesus's message SO wrong

    • @Shirokroete
      @Shirokroete 3 года назад +2

      Leviticus 18:22 though

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 3 года назад +9

      @@Shirokroete plus, if you care enough, you can find information on debates on the translation if that text.

    • @grandma.p
      @grandma.p 3 года назад +15

      Maybe the interpretation of the Bible isn't correct. The incidents referred to in the Bible are not that of two concenting adults. Of course, it is wrong to hurt someone with any type of sexual act.

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow 3 года назад +4

      @@Shirokroete You mean that Jewish ritual which has zero to do with homosexuality? In fact, there are zero condemnations of homosexuality in the Bible.

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow 3 года назад +17

      @@grandma.p Given some modern Bibles, containing the unerring word of God, use the word 'homosexuality' is proof enough. The word 'homosexuality' did not even exist until the 1870s.

  • @g.gg.g4539
    @g.gg.g4539 3 года назад +1

    I love how insightful your videos are. Would you consider an episode on the origin of African philosophy. It's hard to find reliable sources on these topics.

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 3 года назад +8

    Yet another fascinating video. How don't you have more subscribers??

  • @CvilleEducator
    @CvilleEducator 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for this! I am sharing it with my students.

  • @viennadesou6546
    @viennadesou6546 3 года назад

    thanks for your work!

  • @sagedamason8221
    @sagedamason8221 Год назад

    This was so nice to watch!!

  • @sherylcrowe3255
    @sherylcrowe3255 3 года назад

    Fantastic video! Thank you

  • @sharonnsmith81
    @sharonnsmith81 2 года назад

    This was very interesting!! Thank you so much!!💯🙌🏽💛

  • @craigmerkey8518
    @craigmerkey8518 3 года назад

    Fantastic information!

  • @dramonmaster222
    @dramonmaster222 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for making this video because this really is a fascinating and important topic.

  • @sodacorn92
    @sodacorn92 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @connor863
    @connor863 3 года назад +13

    Thank you for bringing much-needed attention to unrecognized topics like this!

  • @the.magic.catbus9459
    @the.magic.catbus9459 2 года назад +1

    This would a great series! I think each era needs its own video.

  • @ah_libra
    @ah_libra 3 года назад

    Incredible video!

  • @honestytheory7529
    @honestytheory7529 Год назад

    Thank you for this.

  • @robbievangeenenNL
    @robbievangeenenNL 2 года назад +3

    Great episode. Although with all kinds of repressive laws being drawn up and passed banning the discussion of topics such as these in class rooms deeply troubles me. I grew up believing as a society we were constantly on a path forward towards diversity and equality. Now as I've reached mid-life, and watch what's happening I'm seriously re-examining those early beliefs. Again, thank you for making such content. Its importance can not be understated.

  • @QueerCapricorn6572
    @QueerCapricorn6572 3 года назад +3

    I fight against toxic masculinity by wearing girly, pinkish, and colorful
    From 🇩🇿

  • @cindyubah4638
    @cindyubah4638 3 года назад +1

    Danielle I know this is a bit off topic for this episode but I was wondering if you could do an episode on the origin of hair extensions. Thanks for being my daily dose of fun facts.

  • @The482075
    @The482075 3 года назад +17

    I think there is reason to be hopeful. Homosexuality is legal. Same sex marriage is legal. Attitudes towards LGBTQ+ are improving. I still think we have a long way to go though. Cautiously optimistic.

  • @athenabonte60
    @athenabonte60 3 года назад +1

    I love this channel I love the way she speaks so elegant and so informative thank you young lady you're brilliant and thanks facts no chaser keep shining beautiful spirit and I love your glowing skin.

  • @kike_zeron
    @kike_zeron 3 года назад

    I love your video!!!

  • @ashathor9269
    @ashathor9269 3 года назад

    You're amazing. Thank you for sharing 🌈

  • @cpi23
    @cpi23 3 года назад +1

    I wish I had videos like this when I was younger. Bravo.

  • @bluecapeprincestudios3446
    @bluecapeprincestudios3446 3 года назад +1

    I love love love your videos! Love from London and India

  • @pelhambissell2926
    @pelhambissell2926 3 года назад +10

    Packed with well researched facts . Thank you for listing your sources !

  • @larryjones-emery807
    @larryjones-emery807 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @Cyndance
    @Cyndance 3 года назад +1

    Wow, you really ROCK!!

  • @ThePrikoki
    @ThePrikoki 3 года назад +6

    Never seen a video posted 3 minutes ago: o

  • @MrMantis32
    @MrMantis32 3 года назад +17

    Danielle is the best! I owe these heroes that came before me that made it possible the fact I live and have beenwith my partner for 3 years with the hope of marraige soon. These ppl are why it's important to tell LGBTQ laws and stories of rebellion and change

    • @a-liberal-patriot
      @a-liberal-patriot 3 года назад +4

      As a gay senior citizen, I truly appreciate your comment. The younger people today just automatically decide that I'm going to preach about the sacrifices we made, the terrors we endured, and so forth. Not so. In short, the generations that came before me created layer upon layer of positivity, my generation created a layer, too. Now it's up to your generation to create the next layer. How you create it and what it entails is all your decision, and we (previous generations) have no right to say what's right or wrong about it. Our (you, me, those before us) ultimate goal is to create a sustainable, positive situation. That's all that matters.

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 3 года назад

      I will insist that voting is neccessary, whatever else one chooses. Rights gained can be lost. Lawmakers and justices can be helpful or destructive.

  • @creoleconjure6728
    @creoleconjure6728 2 года назад +3

    Your channel is awesome! Would be so great to see a story about the origins of mental healthcare in the USA (specifically, Dorothea Dix and how those with mental health issues were refused immigration rights to the USA earlier in the country's history). Keep up the great work! 🖤💜🧿

  • @sophiejones7727
    @sophiejones7727 3 года назад +2

    Hey, thanks for randomly dropping this in August instead of saving it for next June. It is really nice when people remember that we exist outside of Pride. I appreciate that this video went back to before the country’s founding and examined how homophobia was used as a tool of colonization. This is honestly something that I think a lot of people in the LGBT community are afraid to talk about, although it is a universal phenomenon. But I think talking about it would go a long way towards bridging some of the divides in the community, particularly surrounding race. The fact that conquerers and imperialists were willing to betray members of their own group even their own family in order to subjugate others: that is something which all LGBT people need to reckon with but most members try to avoid considering if they can (for obvious reasons).

  • @sicilyamarismcraven
    @sicilyamarismcraven 3 года назад +6

    My queen! These videos are always timely and amazing 🙌🏽 Would love to see one on child centric laws and the creation of child protective services. Also ones on citizen's role in policing and reporting like citizen's arrest and testimony in court.

  • @bodiesbydefinition
    @bodiesbydefinition 3 года назад +6

    Please conduct an "origins of Title IV-D Law (child support)".
    Touchy subject; but, it will be extremely informative.
    Thanks.

  • @thebarbaryghostsf
    @thebarbaryghostsf 3 года назад +4

    I hate to be that person, but you may want to run a spellcheck before posting these. Otherwise haters and bigots will use that as a way to try and delegitimize your hard work.

  • @kerycktotebag8164
    @kerycktotebag8164 3 года назад +18

    The thing about discriminating against transgender and sexual minorities being inherently a discrimination on the basis of sex makes sense. They're literally saying "You can only do this if you've got these certain body parts, but you'll be punished if you don't have those parts and still try to do that!" It's literally using sex difference to gatekeep people from who they love and what they want to do with their bodies/clothes/voice/etc...

  • @freshencounter
    @freshencounter 3 года назад +3

    You Rock! Thank you. This is wonderful.
    In case you don’t have them in your file, We’wah was a Two-Spirit Zuni who was presented to President Cleveland more than once, and in some ways worked as a liaison between her people and white colonizers. I wonder how much of their sternness written about here was their way if keeping their people safe.
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/We%27wha
    Thanks so much for the work you put into this history, particularly the earliest recordings.

  • @lorelange
    @lorelange 3 года назад +6

    Hi please do the origine of the term judeo-christan that you used in this video.

  • @Informedaccount
    @Informedaccount 3 года назад

    I wish clips of these videos were posted as an IGTV video on their IG page so it could be easier to share it.

  • @johnnzboy
    @johnnzboy 3 года назад +2

    I appreciate your use of LGBTQ+ throughout the video but I think we need a snappier term. I'm a cis gay man and while I don't personally love the term 'queer' I think it's the best term we've got at present (you even use it yourself a few times) and the one that most people in the LGBTQ+ communities will accept (and let's be honest, we're never gonna get a consensus) (o; Another great video, keep up the excellent work!

  • @willvandom5105
    @willvandom5105 3 года назад +1

    Hi I'm not sure if this is something you'd like to talk about but it's just an idea: In kpop the concept (music genre, clothes, hairstyling...) is very important and many groups have been accused of cultural appropriation in these fields, especially now that kpop is very well known world wide. So I think it would be an interesting topic to talk about on why it's so normalised in kpop and how using someone else's culture as aesthetics is wrong

  • @lkim9745
    @lkim9745 2 года назад

    Good for you~

  • @Tilar-od8yx
    @Tilar-od8yx 3 года назад

    Thanks

  • @dukelmontgomery
    @dukelmontgomery 3 года назад

    Can Y’all do a video about the first social security number. I know the first cards where Metal but how did people get them?? And how where the number assigned to people??

  • @bvaradinov
    @bvaradinov 3 года назад +5

    I’d like to say 2 things:
    1. The narrator is one of my favourite in RUclips. I’m sorry I can’t mention her name, but I just don’t see it mentioned anywhere in the video. Which is a pity because she deserves admirations for her excellent narrative skills and friendly way of presenting rather complex information. Every time I watch her videos I know that I’ll learn something new. And I’m a high-school teacher with nearly 20 years of experience.
    2. I sincerely don’t understand how LGBTQ+ rights refer to left political views and why is the defending of those rights somehow placed in the left wing political narratives? I grew up in a Soviet Socialist (East European) state, ruled by a communist party. When the Soviet Socialism collapsed in my motherland, the very same communist party renamed itself into a socialist party and was immediately internationally recognised as a socialist one, no matter the members and the ruling body of the party were the same (old) communists. And I say that because during the time of the Soviet Socialist era, the communists (nowadays socialists) prosecuted severely any homosexual behaviour. There were regular trials against famous homosexuals (for just being homosexuals), and plenty of people suffered due to that Marxist attitude, which is in general very unnatural attitude among the Bulgarians (which for 14 centuries of existing of the state Bulgaria, never prosecuted homosexual people, it only happened after the communists / socialists forcibly took the power in Bulgaria). Until the day of today, the Bulgarian Socialist Party (one of the oldest European Socialist parties) still opposes gay rights and fights strongly against gender identity, claiming that neither of those are in the context of the Marxism (and they are indeed right, because Marx was very strongly opposing any manifestation of unnatural sexuality and gender behaviour). So, why are those rights predominantly part of the left-wing political (Marxist) platforms in the USA? I’m very curious to learn about that aspect of the history.

    • @rparl
      @rparl 3 года назад +1

      US Marxists want to destabilize our society and see promoting LGBTQ rights as furthering that goal. What they actually favor is social conflict. Same for the Russian cyber trolls.

    • @bvaradinov
      @bvaradinov 3 года назад

      Threefive Nine Thank you for your detailed answer! I appreciate both your effort to write it and the information it contains. If you don’t mind, I’ll just point two things in your answer, which I find a bit of unclear.
      1. When you say that the history of Socialism (not Communism, because, historically speaking, there was never been a Communist society on this planet ) and LGBT rights isn’t only black & white, you mean that history only in the USA, right? Because what we’ve seen in other parts of the world (East Europe, USSR, China, North Korea, Latin America, etc) when Marxist ideology takes control over the social fabric, homosexuals (especially men) are the first ones to be targeted, due to their “unnatural” sexual behaviour. So, basically, it’s USA vs the rest of the world, not that anywhere else socialists from the 20-th century displayed some positive attitude towards homosexual people. And yet again - it is the Marxism itself which (dogmatically) states that by default homosexuality is unnatural.
      2. When you say “liberals vs conservatives”, do you mean those two opposing views as defined by 19-th century political terms when “liberal” meant “free capitalist market” (following Adam Smith), and “conservative” meant simply someone who’s against the evolvement of the social structure and relations? Or you mean the 21-st century “liberals vs conservatives”, when (especially in Europe where I live and from where all those political terms originate) “liberals” are ideologically very close to Marxism as a whole and on populist level talk about “human rights” (including LGBT rights), and “conservatives” are very desaturated group of political views which are basically just in favour of some traditional understandings about family but avoid talking about “natural and unnatural” in sexuality, because “sexuality and family” are 2 very different things. I mean the labels “liberal and conservative” have evolved drastically within the past 150 years.

    • @359339
      @359339 3 года назад

      @@bvaradinov It was interesting to look into Bulgarian history, so I appreciate the opportunity.
      1. There is a big difference between socialist people and socialist governments. There's a long history of socialist/communist people and groups that were pro-LGBT. Pointing at socialism as the cause of a government being homophobic isn't logical because all governments at the time were. Like saying "this dog is barking because it has spots" while all the other dogs are barking too.
      I can't access the books Wikipedia is citing, but "During the Weimar Republic, the Communist Party of Germany joined with the Social Democrats in support of efforts to legalize private homosexual relations between consenting adults" does not fit with your European narrative.
      2. You're barely asking a question here. As the queer liberation movement didn't gain traction until the late 1960s, the basis of left and right indicating loyalty to the French king is not super relevant. Liberals that are anti-capitalist and liberals that are pro-capitalist can both favour the personal freedom of consenting adults to mingle or build a life together. I don't know if John Stuart Mill ever wrote on same sex relations, but considering his stance against sexism, I think LGBT rights have always been compatible with liberalism and it was just a matter of the mainstream culture making it politically acceptable.
      I don't think conservatism has changed very much, except replacing the divine right of kings with prosperity gospel. It's still about defending arbitrary hierarchy. They don't (as a whole) give two shits about men cheating on their wives or getting divorced, because they don't care about 'family', they care about male power over women.
      Authoritarian governments will police people's sexuality regardless of economic models, because power is power.

    • @bvaradinov
      @bvaradinov 3 года назад

      Threefive Nine I think that you exclude the big part of the world and focus yourself only with the Anglo - Saxon narratives. That’s not a problem as long as you don’t generalise and as long as you don’t take the position that what you read in English (mainly by native English writers] refers as a whole to the objective facts. I can tell you (because I read in 4 languages) that quiet often the narratives differ. For example - recently I read an article in English about the Ottoman Empire and I was amazed to read how certain historical facts (for example concerning Janissaries) were presented very incorrect, yet romanticised. Needless to say that (historically speaking] that article had very little to do with the facts. The same way I pretty often argue with (predominantly) Americans that there are 7 billion more people living outside the USA, and all those have their own narratives, often having nothing in common with the narratives in the USA. For example - you say that there are pro-capitalist and anti-capitalist liberals (I assume I talk about the USA), but if you look at the EU parliament, the group of ALDE states that one of the fundamental pillars of a free society is the free market (with other words precisely what Adam Smith stated]. Yet, the liberals in the EU parliament have very little in common with liberals in Russia from late 19 century, because those liberals were living in a very different context and their main idea was to abolish to still existing forms of slavery (in Russia) and to try minimise the massive difference between the classes in the Russian society. Tolstoy talks about “liberals and their Marxist ideas” in his novel “Resurrection”.
      What I ask you, in a very friendly way, is to not assume that “the truth” is possessed by Anglo-Saxon narratives and that humanity extends way beyond the North America.
      P.S. : I’m not going to elaborate on your statement that there’s a big difference between socialists and socialists states, because I’ll have to bring on the table Marx and Lenin, and keeping in mind that I was (literally) forced to study both since age of 7, that brings very negative and traumatic experiences. But what you say is basically that the Europeans who enslaved black people from Africa and transported those to the new world, can’t be called slave-traders anywhere else than only at the moment of performing the activity of the slave-trading. So, basically they weren’t slave-traders in general, but were such only when delivering slaves to a slave-market somewhere in America.

    • @359339
      @359339 3 года назад

      @@bvaradinov
      It is true that I struggle to read things not written in english so I have to deal with limited translations. But I am not American; I am answering your question that was specifically about the USA. You said "So, why are those rights predominantly part of the left-wing political (Marxist) platforms in the USA?" which is why I am talking about that space.
      It is relevant that in the US that people who identify as Marxists have no political power. When I say the difference between governments and people, I don't mean between Lenin and the party he ruled. I mean the person on the street handing out newspapers nobody reads. If you categorize anyone on the left as Marxists, extending as far as the US Democratic party, then you'll always be surprised by their positions because they're not Marxist and won't behave as such.
      I understand that this is triggering for you and I'm sorry that you've had so many experiences that have forced up your defences. If you reread what you have written and what I have written, I think it's possible you'll find there's no disagreement. I know writing gotchas is good fun, but there's nothing to gotch :P

  • @robertevans9207
    @robertevans9207 3 года назад +39

    Thank you for this! The amount of change the LGBTQ+ community has seen in a lifetime is breathtaking. I'm afraid that a lot of the community's history is being lost or forgotten. 🏳️‍🌈

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 3 года назад +4

      Just remember that whatever can be won can be lost. Don't be complacent.

  • @cantordavid613
    @cantordavid613 3 года назад

    Very well done! I LOVED absolutely EVERYTHING about this video, save one...
    You have a graphic of the word "sensibility" misspelled as"sensability".

  • @Manhattanite1
    @Manhattanite1 3 года назад

    Brilliant report. I invited Kay Whitlock to speak at a "gay" rights rally at my college in 1976, and its great to see she's still fighting, re:the book. Thanks!!

  • @cgzepp
    @cgzepp 3 года назад +1

    it's TERRIFYING to learn about the history and origin of USA law and observe how much of it has helped shape legislation in Brazil and the rest of South America

  • @penelopegreene
    @penelopegreene 3 года назад

    Finally.

  • @dicktated4007
    @dicktated4007 3 года назад +1

    im gonna move to mars and start a population of accepting people

  • @emmazig
    @emmazig 3 года назад

    Are you going to have a video about religious discrimination in US law? Like ingrained monotheism and specifically how the constitution is based off of Christian freedom of religion, not Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc freedom of religion?

  • @RafaelJoseGallardo
    @RafaelJoseGallardo 3 года назад +1

    You guys should do an origin of everything on hair/hairstyles. I saw viral trend not to while ago about how black peoples hair is unprofessional.

  • @Sscorpio393
    @Sscorpio393 3 года назад +8

    I feel If a man wants to wear women's cloths let him do it it's his life if a woman want to wear men's cloths let her do it it's her life I feel now a days people feel if ur a man u wear men's cloths and if ur a woman u wear women's clothing at the end of the day it really shouldn't matter who wears what or who marrys who or who sleeps with who I feel the only thing that should matter is if these two people really love each other yes it is uncomfortable for some of us j feel u but u have to let people live their lives the way they so wish to. God or who ever u worship (I worship God so I will use him in my response)made everyone in ways they could thrive in the world not to be judged by someone else because they are different from them and humans were surely not made to judge others because they r different that is up to God and God only

    • @grandma.p
      @grandma.p 3 года назад +3

      You're right. Who is it that needs to change? We accept everyone at our church.

    • @Sscorpio393
      @Sscorpio393 3 года назад +4

      @@grandma.p and the funny thing is people think if u stand up for the LGBTQ+ community ur gay or lesbian which isn't true half of the time I don't understand y u have to be something u stand up for. For example I stand up for kids and adults who have special needs. If we take what people say about other people who stand up for the LGBTQ COMMUNITY being gay if u stand up for them that means we apply that to everything meaning since I stand up for kids and adults who have special needs now I have special needs it doesn't add up right the rude people who live on this planet r so selfish and believe if u don't live ur life the way they live their lives ur not normal and I don't don't deserve my respect shm 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

  • @sirdavidoftor3413
    @sirdavidoftor3413 3 года назад +4

    As a Canadian/American I am always struck by how different each country when it comes to individual rights. In the American constitution, where” all men are created equal “ and where government was to promote “ life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness “, you end up with a country where minorities have to fight for rights in the courts. LGBT2+ still can get kick out of their dwelling, or be denied a place to live. If “ all men are created equal “ how is that justified? Another mystifying thing is not all states have the same laws. There is lack of a “national standard”, until the Supreme Court rules. It seems mind boggling!!!
    In Canada, in 1982, the charter ofRights and Freedoms, set out plainly that discrimination is not allowed. The Charter sets the standards for the provinces ( in USA, states), and territories. This from a constitutional history that emphasized peace, order, and good government”.
    SMH
    Stay safe, stay sane, be well

    • @weareallbornmad410
      @weareallbornmad410 3 года назад +1

      You might want to look into the situation of Native peoples in Canada. Both now and historically. Your job of providing rights and freedoms is not done by a long shot.

    • @sirdavidoftor3413
      @sirdavidoftor3413 3 года назад

      We are all born mad : totally agree with you on that. It will take generations to ensure that indigenous rights are secure. However, when it comes to LGBT2 plus rights, Canada is miles ahead of the states. The government was to ban all conversion therapy, but the Government ended the current session. Hopefully in the fall, it will reintroduce the legislation.
      Stay safe, stay sane, be well

  • @SofoniBeats
    @SofoniBeats 3 года назад

    Wow.......

  • @shawnsg
    @shawnsg 3 года назад +11

    Does it ever give y'all stress knowing you're about to put out a video that's just gonna irrationally piss people off?

    • @komalahayes1535
      @komalahayes1535 3 года назад +16

      It only posses off IRRATIONAL INTOLERANT HOMOPHOBIC people. PBS fans are cool love learning (mostly)

    • @yalisaconner
      @yalisaconner 3 года назад +2

      Who gets upset about facts?

    • @CalTxDude
      @CalTxDude 3 года назад

      People living in fear.
      Some people find the comfort in there hate... Very sad, Because I only fear can insight Such violent opposition and hate

  • @Hmm...Whats-Their-Name
    @Hmm...Whats-Their-Name 2 года назад

    7:01 yo that article is wild! Like that's how they end it?! And jesus I could barely make it through with all the printed homophobia but like.. yeah.. that was what it was... jfc

  • @walterrussell7584
    @walterrussell7584 6 месяцев назад

    Now look at it the transmitters are out of control

  • @berlineczka
    @berlineczka 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for a very interesting video. However, I would reconsider using the term of "Judeo-Christian and Puritanical sensibilities from the 17th century". There was no such a thing as anything "Judeo-Christian" back then. In fact, in most of the Western world it was a time of rampant anti-Semitism.
    Furthermore, "Judeo-Christian" is a term coined by the US-American right some two decades ago to hide their anti-Semitic roots. It should never be applied unironically and historically, because it is not a historical term. Also, Puritans are Christians, so separating it from the Christian part is misleading.

  • @Condottier
    @Condottier 4 месяца назад

    First time I see Panama considered as part of North America, do we get to be part of NAFTA and NORAD?

  • @mcbuckets5457
    @mcbuckets5457 4 месяца назад

    I'm straight and I love the history but there was a lot of hate towards those people back then and in our society today. What can we do as a nation to have opportunities for all people in our country. I say this because we need to focus on what is going on in our nation first and find a solution instead of trying to win arguments

  • @the_awakening6044
    @the_awakening6044 3 года назад

    It is impossible to pass this law and not discriminate a business based on religion.

  • @skenzyme81
    @skenzyme81 2 года назад +1

    On the bright side, overruling Baker v Nelson murdered stare decisis. Now Roe v Wade can be easily and rightfully done away with as well.
    Protecting marriage was worthwhile, but protecting babies from mass slaughter is way more important. Reasonable trade!

  • @YunierViada
    @YunierViada 3 года назад +6

    Thank you! 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

  • @timothywalsh866
    @timothywalsh866 2 года назад

    Great video, but please get a better microphone

  • @Mendes16-125
    @Mendes16-125 3 года назад +1

    Hi RUclips World. This is going to be seriously off topic, but the Latinx video I posted this comment on was released 1 or 2 years ago, so I haven't received any feedback on it...so I thought a recent video would allow for some answers.
    I would love if a Latinx and American individuals can cofirm something for me please.
    I am Portuguese. As I am from a European country, which speaks a Romance language, I am Latin.
    It would be completely wrong to refer to me as Latina. I must therefore check the "White" box when filing out forms etc?
    Latin = Europe
    Latinx = Latin/South America
    I have a friend who lived in America and she found that white Americans refused to consider her to be "white enough" to check or be refered to as white. My friend even had a lady refuse her paperwork as my friend checked "white" with a common Latinx surname, like mine (Mendes). Latinx people obviously didn't like her calling herself a Latina, as well...she isn't.
    This left her in this weird space where she wasn't "white enough" or "Latina enough" to check either box.
    In terms of complexion, we both super white. I often am mistaken as Jewish: random fact if this has some sort of affect on which box to tick.
    What are your thoughts on this?
    Culturally I find myself drawn much closer to generic "Latinx" culture than white american culture. Obviously each country in South America has its own culture, but the fundementals of large and loving families, affectionate people, food orientated, and crazy family events are similar.
    Regardless of this, I would never claim to be a culture that geographically I really cannot be apart of. I have a cousin who lives in Venezuela. Is he Latino or Latin?
    This whole classification thing is super confusing.

    • @daviddas5107
      @daviddas5107 3 года назад

      The whole Hispanic or Latin community is a bit complicated. When Portuguese arrived in the US for the first time, they were an immigrant minority but with time they became part of the white diaspora. Presently Portuguese and Brazilians are not considered Hispanic. However you can choose to self identity as such if you wish to do so.

  • @mildredmartinez8843
    @mildredmartinez8843 3 года назад

    The civil rights struggle of Afrcan Americans not only earned greater liberties for their but became the founding stone for other civik rights movements as this docunentary shows. Among tgese are the rights fought by the LGBT+ community, the Americans wuth Disabilities act, immigrant rights, and a whole host of civil and political rights. Who would have rhought that a little girl and her courageous lawyers would help bring about changes that we are still seeing today. My admiration tor all who fought even at the cost of their lives..

  • @FlyingAlfredoSaucer
    @FlyingAlfredoSaucer 3 года назад +1

    I'm Bi, but I'd say post-1962, the US was a pretty good country.

  • @AlexisMitchell87
    @AlexisMitchell87 3 года назад +1

    People and their warped priorities, obsessions, and propensity to subjugate.

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 3 года назад +5

    Could you do a video on descrimination against Jews who weren't allowed to hold office in most states and orthodox jews who still have to fight to keep their rights in this country. I realize jews aren't even 1% of the population but they still don't qualify as minorities in modern parlence.