They make a special cutdown version of the toolhead just for that reason. Dillon makes one but check out Jofer USA. They make a custom polished toolhead for this application also. Its made in Miami Fl. and Joe has awesome customer service. Cheers!
Good video Fred, now a year or so ago I borrowed a RT1500 to prep half a 5gallon pail of .223, the one I borrowed was mounted in a tool head from Dillon specifically for this trimmer, it was machined or scalloped to make it thinner where the trimmer was mounted. Also he had adapted a sump pump discharge hose of 25' that you attached to your shop vac, to keep the noise at a distance.
Just got my RT 1500 today. Have sizing/trim dies for .223 and .243. Bought a separate sizing die, RCBS full length for the .223. Glad you showed the station set up for one and four. I'm new to reloading and this is very helpful. I so agree about price and time return. Have done the manual process for trimming, chamfering and de-burring. What a pain. Subscribed and hope to see more videos.
It sounds like you do a lot of reloading. Joined the Dillon Precision blue group on FB and have gained a wealth of knowledge. Have watched so many on youtube that just want to go fast. I don't think a speed race is the way to go in reloading, just pace the entire course. Oh, and save some steps when possible with technology. Post on Bravo1Xray. @@bravo1xray522
Thank you very much for the video. I agree that it's been hard to find a good video that shows the setup & use of the Dillon Trimmer. Your videos have been really helpful as I've been getting the gear I wanted to get my new XL 650 set up.
I love my RT 1500 trimmer, very efficient.. But I agree such a pain to get set up, but when it is set up boy does it chew through brass! I will recommend though that the cases are lubed well. The die that the trimmer sits on is a small based sizing die essentially. I have found that it does resize the neck of the case smaller than I would like and makes for a very tight fit come seating a bullet. I have a final third sizing die set up after the trimmer that just neck sizes, so that it brings that neck back into spec.
Moving into a Dillon 650 now....first progressive for me. This trimmer is on my short list of new gear I want to add. When you say to ensure the case is well lubed prior to trimming......is the normal case lube, the lanolin Dillon stuff, sufficient ? Or, is there another type you recommend ? Thanks.
Hi Bravo, James here. I was watching your video and observed you using a full size decapping die before trimming. Why? That trimmer should full size if set up correctly. I have the RT1200. Watch my video on fastest way to prep 223 brass part 1. I decap with a neck sizer or a universal die, then swage and decap, and trim, all on the 650 all at the same time. Then I wet tumble with the pins for two hours and that debures the cace and cleans the primmer pockets out. I use the Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler. And I have the mr bullet feeder, so I have to use a neck expansion die so the bullets will stay on with out falling off. Its a hot set up. You do a great presentation on this video, and very professional. My video was one of the very first videos I have ever done on RUclips. I felt embarrassed but it seem to get many views. I am going to subscribe to you right now and click the bell. God bless you and your family. I enjoyed your video, very well done.
Al Riley. Check out the Giraud Trimmer for answers to your question. It’s also very expensive but you can’t cut .556 down to 300 blk with the Giraud trimmer but it does trim/chamfer.
Bravo, I give up. I installed the RT 1500 per factory instructions. Also installed an RCBS full length case sizer and decapper in #1 to what the manual instructed. Brass comes out great to within .010 of spec (1.750-1.763). When I adjust the 1500 case sizer for the 1500 to instructions, they don't get trimmed (they, for whatever reason are on spec), but the case length drops to 1.740 to 1.748. I'll buy the beer if you can help me understand why I'm loosing .010 or more on each length after the 1500 sizer.
It has been a while. I had to take down all my stuff for a move. I still don't have a shop to set it all back up. Hopefully soon! Thanks for checking me!!
Help me out a little on this , if you resize the brass trim it, then go to reload it on another tool head for reloading the brass do you need lube, as it is already sized , all is left is primer, powder, bullet length and crimp ? thanks also on prep of brass should have swage
so with your trim die. I found turning out the die about 1-1.5 turns so it does not affect the neck. About how far did you turn the die out on your setup?
Just to be clear , there still isn’t any faster way to swage military brass, you still have to do that in a separate step one case at a time? I have a 5 gallon bucket of 223 brass and I think I’ll start separating crimped and non crimped brass. Thanks for the video, I’m definitely going to be picking up this trimmer👍🏽
It looks like you got this working great -- I wonder, if you used the special toolhead Dillon makes for the trimmer, which has a relief cut at station 4, you would have had room to mount the lock nut on the top and still be able to mount the vacuum shroud?
I think the tool head you mentioned is mostly for converting .223 to .300 Black Out. The cases get so short you need to relief cut in the tool head. I'll pick one up and see if it helps. Idea for my next video!! Thanks!
Hey Fred for the price that Dillon charges is there a different brass cutter that i can use in its place to do chamfering and de-burring all at the same time
Good question!! None that I'm aware of. I know that Franklin make a station that sits on its side and has all the tools in front of you. Still a very long and slow process.
Hi Fred Are you saying you can adjust the Dillon trim die so it don't size the brass and only trims? Dillon shows on there site that it is a sizing die as well as trimming.Thanks
So how are setting the Dillon trim die to not size the brass. Are you able to keep it turned off of shell plate a turn or two to keep it from resizing the brass. Thanks Dan
You forgot to resize the case neck after trimming the case. the trim die squeezes the neck below SAAMI specs so you should run a mandrel thru the neck to bring it back out to accept the bullet.
I have the trim die set so it does no sizing at all. I have my sizing die set up in station 1 and with this set up works perfect. I have about 10k loaded this way with no issue. Thanks for the comment and interest!! 73
Hey great video...very well informative. My question for.....since you have already sized decapped and trimmer....after you tumble and put the finished brass back in the hopper will you remove the sizing and recapping die from station #1 and start with priming the brass in station #2.
Thank you for the comment and questions! I have not had a issue with losing the sizing process in the re-tumble. So when I'm actually loading station 1 is empty, Station 2 is priming, charging and putting a slight flare into the neck. Works really good and produces excellent reloads!! Please let me know if you have any other questions.. Please like and subscribe!! 73.
There are two lock nuts used in this set up. One on the trimmer and one on the die. Both would be as described as on the bottom I guess. I hope this answered your question.
You need a different die for every caliber that you need to trim. On Dillons site they show it with a locking ring. In my experience all dies come with some sort of locking device.. www.dillonprecision.com/rapid-trim-1500-size-trim-dies_8_8_25244.html
Bravo1Xray I understand a separate die is required for each caliber. My question is...is everything provided in the trimmer kit for you to set this up. Or do you need to purchase another lock ring for the trimmer (the one on the top side of the tool head near the base of the trimmer in your video)? I ask, because Dillon sells a $6 lock nut that has the special thread count/pitch for the threads that the trimmer screws on to. Thanks for the clarification
Love mine. If you have very many cases to trim. I had no issue with setup just have to do it. I use it for 223 and 30-06. Mine is really quite other than the vacuum running. I used both nuts on the top for the RL 55OB.
RUclips will not let me subscribe, it keeps going back to red not subscribed. I don't know what the heck is going on. This is happening on all new people I want to subscribe to. Maybe you can tell me what is going on.
Thanks for the comment. I try to be informative and educational. Sometimes they are longer then a very few like. I'll make an attempt to trim the next one down a bit. Stay safe...
They make a special cutdown version of the toolhead just for that reason. Dillon makes one but check out Jofer USA. They make a custom polished toolhead for this application also. Its made in Miami Fl. and Joe has awesome customer service. Cheers!
Good video Fred, now a year or so ago I borrowed a RT1500 to prep half a 5gallon pail of .223, the one I borrowed was mounted in a tool head from Dillon specifically for this trimmer, it was machined or scalloped to make it thinner where the trimmer was mounted. Also he had adapted a sump pump discharge hose of 25' that you attached to your shop vac, to keep the noise at a distance.
Tell whoever is in the background picture thank you for there service
Just got my RT 1500 today. Have sizing/trim dies for .223 and .243. Bought a separate sizing die, RCBS full length for the .223. Glad you showed the station set up for one and four. I'm new to reloading and this is very helpful. I so agree about price and time return. Have done the manual process for trimming, chamfering and de-burring. What a pain. Subscribed and hope to see more videos.
I'm glad you got some good info out of the video. I'm trying to find time to make more vids. Perhaps now that winter is here I'll get some more time.
It sounds like you do a lot of reloading. Joined the Dillon Precision blue group on FB and have gained a wealth of knowledge. Have watched so many on youtube that just want to go fast. I don't think a speed race is the way to go in reloading, just pace the entire course. Oh, and save some steps when possible with technology. Post on Bravo1Xray. @@bravo1xray522
I sure do enjoy it. I dont load all that much just enough to keep the trigger finger happy!! Let me know if you have any questions....
As I get more into this great hobby, I will seek the knowledge you possess. @@bravo1xray522
Thank you very much for the video. I agree that it's been hard to find a good video that shows the setup & use of the Dillon Trimmer. Your videos have been really helpful as I've been getting the gear I wanted to get my new XL 650 set up.
That's awesome!! I'm glad that I can help! Thank you for the kind words....
I love my RT 1500 trimmer, very efficient.. But I agree such a pain to get set up, but when it is set up boy does it chew through brass! I will recommend though that the cases are lubed well. The die that the trimmer sits on is a small based sizing die essentially. I have found that it does resize the neck of the case smaller than I would like and makes for a very tight fit come seating a bullet. I have a final third sizing die set up after the trimmer that just neck sizes, so that it brings that neck back into spec.
Moving into a Dillon 650 now....first progressive for me. This trimmer is on my short list of new gear I want to add. When you say to ensure the case is well lubed prior to trimming......is the normal case lube, the lanolin Dillon stuff, sufficient ? Or, is there another type you recommend ? Thanks.
@@DubfromGA normal case lube
Great teaching video... like everybody says, Dillon and lots of manufacturers know how to use their products
and just assume that you do, too! WillyB
Hi Bravo, James here. I was watching your video and observed you using a full size decapping die before trimming. Why? That trimmer should full size if set up correctly. I have the RT1200. Watch my video on fastest way to prep 223 brass part 1. I decap with a neck sizer or a universal die, then swage and decap, and trim, all on the 650 all at the same time. Then I wet tumble with the pins for two hours and that debures the cace and cleans the primmer pockets out. I use the Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler. And I have the mr bullet feeder, so I have to use a neck expansion die so the bullets will stay on with out falling off. Its a hot set up. You do a great presentation on this video, and very professional. My video was one of the very first videos I have ever done on RUclips. I felt embarrassed but it seem to get many views. I am going to subscribe to you right now and click the bell. God bless you and your family. I enjoyed your video, very well done.
Al Riley. Check out the Giraud Trimmer for answers to your question. It’s also very expensive but you can’t cut .556 down to 300 blk with the Giraud trimmer but it does trim/chamfer.
hello, I often watch your videos that I love very much I regret not to speak English easily congratulations best wishes 2019
Thank you very much for the kind words!! Happy New Year!!
Bravo, I give up. I installed the RT 1500 per factory instructions. Also installed an RCBS full length case sizer and decapper in #1 to what the manual instructed. Brass comes out great to within .010 of spec (1.750-1.763). When I adjust the 1500 case sizer for the 1500 to instructions, they don't get trimmed (they, for whatever reason are on spec), but the case length drops to 1.740 to 1.748. I'll buy the beer if you can help me understand why I'm loosing .010 or more on each length after the 1500 sizer.
Jim send me a email with some pictures of your set up. I'm sure we can figure it out. My channel name at gmail.
I'll do a video this weekend. That would show more, much like your videos. Thanks @@bravo1xray522
Sounds good. Let me know when you have it up.
Great vid, I see its been a while since you posted. Hope you are well sir.
It has been a while. I had to take down all my stuff for a move. I still don't have a shop to set it all back up. Hopefully soon! Thanks for checking me!!
Help me out a little on this , if you resize the brass trim it, then go to reload it on another tool head for reloading the brass do you need lube, as it is already sized , all is left is primer, powder, bullet length and crimp ? thanks also on prep of brass should have swage
so with your trim die. I found turning out the die about 1-1.5 turns so it does not affect the neck. About how far did you turn the die out on your setup?
Just to be clear , there still isn’t any faster way to swage military brass, you still have to do that in a separate step one case at a time? I have a 5 gallon bucket of 223 brass and I think I’ll start separating crimped and non crimped brass. Thanks for the video, I’m definitely going to be picking up this trimmer👍🏽
I was wondering how it worked I like it
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
How did the tubs finishing kit .308 bullets work out? Did your group size increase or decrease? Impressions?
Great video
Thank you! I hope you found it useful....
It looks like you got this working great -- I wonder, if you used the special toolhead Dillon makes for the trimmer, which has a relief cut at station 4, you would have had room to mount the lock nut on the top and still be able to mount the vacuum shroud?
I have the same question.
I think the tool head you mentioned is mostly for converting .223 to .300 Black Out. The cases get so short you need to relief cut in the tool head. I'll pick one up and see if it helps. Idea for my next video!! Thanks!
Hey Fred for the price that Dillon charges is there a different brass cutter that i can use in its place to do chamfering and de-burring all at the same time
Good question!! None that I'm aware of. I know that Franklin make a station that sits on its side and has all the tools in front of you. Still a very long and slow process.
great video. I'm getting one.
You wont regret it!
Thanks For Video
Is the Trim die also included?
You'll need to purchase separately each die for whatever caliber you want to trim. Thanks for watching!!
Hi Fred Are you saying you can adjust the Dillon trim die so it don't size the brass and only trims?
Dillon shows on there site that it is a sizing die as well as trimming.Thanks
It is a sizing die, but I'm already sizing and depriming in station one. So I'm trying to not work the brass twice. Thanks for the comment!!
So how are setting the Dillon trim die to not size the brass. Are you able to keep it turned off of shell plate a turn or two to keep it from resizing the brass.
Thanks Dan
You forgot to resize the case neck after trimming the case. the trim die squeezes the neck below SAAMI specs so you should run a mandrel thru the neck to bring it back out to accept the bullet.
I have the trim die set so it does no sizing at all. I have my sizing die set up in station 1 and with this set up works perfect. I have about 10k loaded this way with no issue. Thanks for the comment and interest!! 73
Hey great video...very well informative. My question for.....since you have already sized decapped and trimmer....after you tumble and put the finished brass back in the hopper will you remove the sizing and recapping die from station #1 and start with priming the brass in station #2.
Thank you for the comment and questions! I have not had a issue with losing the sizing process in the re-tumble. So when I'm actually loading station 1 is empty, Station 2 is priming, charging and putting a slight flare into the neck. Works really good and produces excellent reloads!! Please let me know if you have any other questions.. Please like and subscribe!! 73.
Does the trimmer come with the upper lock nut?
There are two lock nuts used in this set up. One on the trimmer and one on the die. Both would be as described as on the bottom I guess. I hope this answered your question.
Bravo1Xray guess my question would be, are those extra purchases? Or is everything provided in the trimmer kit and trim die?
You need a different die for every caliber that you need to trim. On Dillons site they show it with a locking ring. In my experience all dies come with some sort of locking device..
www.dillonprecision.com/rapid-trim-1500-size-trim-dies_8_8_25244.html
Bravo1Xray I understand a separate die is required for each caliber. My question is...is everything provided in the trimmer kit for you to set this up. Or do you need to purchase another lock ring for the trimmer (the one on the top side of the tool head near the base of the trimmer in your video)?
I ask, because Dillon sells a $6 lock nut that has the special thread count/pitch for the threads that the trimmer screws on to. Thanks for the clarification
The trimming motor comes with everything you need for it. My guess is the one that you found on their site is a replacement? Not sure.
Great video I too question the price and asked myself is it worth it ?? Long term I guess is the question wether or not to buy it.
Love mine. If you have very many cases to trim. I had no issue with setup just have to do it. I use it for 223 and 30-06. Mine is really quite other than the vacuum running. I used both nuts on the top for the RL 55OB.
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All that information could be fit in 5 minutes cideo the rest is none sense
Thanks for the comment. I try to be informative and educational. Sometimes they are longer then a very few like. I'll make an attempt to trim the next one down a bit. Stay safe...
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