Keith Morris, Jello Biafra and Jack Grisham Discuss NOFX Las Vegas Remarks
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2018
- The three Punk legends give their takes on the recent remarks made by NOFX in Las Vegas, the public's response to it and discuss the absence of NOFX at the Camp Punk in Drublic Festival. Date, 06/01/2018
When the beer sponsor decides who can and can't play, can we even call it punk rock anymore? Ultimately the whole thing boils down to being a beer commercial.
I LIKE BEER !!
Yeah..... isn't Punk Rock suppose to be a traveling shoe commercial?
Look at all that smoke Keith Morris exudes, impressive!
He's just that angry all the time
@@paulbeahm3891 😂
Jokes, I like Jokes.. I feel like I live in the 1% of people who realize... And at work im not he P.O.S. were aliens that don't know it.... YET!
His shoes were very hot that night...
I fucking love both Keith and Jello. We need more of them. Those attitudes, those type of people speaking in public forums.
There are plenty of them speaking in public forums, both of them are Jewish.
@@RoscoPColtrane17sure about that?
@@stixzadinia8584 Justice is coming soon.
Mayor Biafra, Governor Grishem, and president Morris brief the crowd on the state of Fat Mike.
LMAO AT YOUR COMMENT. HILARIOUS!! MAYOR, GOV AND PRES HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Vital matters indeed.
I love Jack Grisham. He has no filter; never has - never will. He is a great asset to humanity.
Umm... no. He's not a self-admitted admitted rapist.
He talks about raping women in the American Hardcore book. Check it.
Wrong. Jack does not talk about raping women in the book 'American Hardcore; he simply described himself as a “violent, robbing, gravedigging rapist” - HUGE difference. You do know the words "Rape" and "Rapist" have many meanings, don't you?
Here are his exact words from American Hardcore (book): “And me being a violent, robbing, gravedigging rapist was part of my world. And that was like, ‘well, this is what we do, man. Yeah that chick passed out and I pissed in her face. So what?".
Nowhere does he say he raped any women, or anyone.
no i didn't know that. i thought rapist meant "one who rapes" and that to rape meant to have sex with someone by force. What is the esoteric meaning that you think he intended and what is your evidence as to why he meant it in that sense instead of the much more common one?
known_unknown Try picking up a dictionary. I'm not going to speculate on what Jack meant. I suppose I can ask him what he meant. You on the other hand think you know what he meant without any proof whatsoever.
Jello is continues to be wise and thoughtful.
"Why I'm glad the space shuttle blew up"
Biafra is a mook
And full of shit.
JB was spot on with his response.
Thanks for posting this. Have a great weekend.
Thanks for posting.
Jack Is Short Winded Here Like a Breath Of Fresh air,,,,,,,,,,,,, He Makes The Most Sense In a Few Words !
thanks for posting!!
and why's it so cool and trendy to bash Christianity but not Islam? They're both archaic ways of thinking, yet Christianity which is much more developed and evolved at its current state, gets all the bashing.
OK these guys are posers
Because Islam is not part of the American establishment and Christianity is.
@@tylerbrunson851 it will be
Tyler Brunson it kind of is too. Point being is don’t be critical against religion when you’ll talk about Christianity but not Muslim. The latter is not a race. It’s a religion too.
Jews
Hey thanks for posting this video. I am a huge NOFX fan. Punk rock isn't supposed to be safe. Jack Grisham is the man!!
Joseph Scudder Agreed! In a climate as uptight as the one we're in right now, we need a safe zone away from all of these "safe zones" that PC culture has created.
@@whargobble nah, we need to destroy all fascists and capitalism. cry about safe spaces, grandad.
If TSOL is the business; NOFX can't rate and they don't.
I missed all the camp fire. The RV/Camping line was ridiculous and we had to wait almost three hours to get searched before we could even get on our site.
It was a good weekend. Sucks we missed the camp fire and all of Friday night.
Wait one minute let me see if I got this strait Mike and Melvin made a BAD tasteless joke.
So they took NOFX off and put the Descendants in.
Congrats camp punk in drublic you won.
Lmao yeah because weird obsessive homophobic misogynistic songs that are 100% sincere are any better
@@Iliekchoocolatye are you referring to descendents??
U telling that they got kicked off a punk festival for a black humor joke? Ironic
BOTH of these guys are awesome!!
Eric Coombs Jack Grisham was great as well... You can't see him because he was down with the crowd, but he served as moderator and chimed in from time to time!
Keith is awesome. Jello talks too much.
Awesomely selfish and hypocritical.
@@jedisok13 Jello is the master of saying a lot of nothingness.
Nailed it @@jzen1455
Thanks for posting 👍
Give it up for the Newport KY '85 shout-out! The place was called The Jockey club right? Saw Suicidal Tendencies on their 1st tour there then final BlackFlag tour in '86 hit there. I was 14.
This is the least I've ever heard Keith Morris say.
Not one time do i hear any of these speakers talk about respect and compassion for the victims. You can make all the “politically correct punk rock statements” you want, that is number 1. I am saying this being a number 1 punk music fan!
This is the sentiment that I reached on this topic. When it comes to "it's just a joke, chill out," I agree with another commenter that NOFX made that joke at one the-actual-worst possible places and times. In this instance, not making a joke is not out of "so you're afraid of the crybabies,"-it's just decency.
this whole thing is so true wow
Jack Grisham the only one speaking some sense.
when did punk rock become so safe?
Shinitai Senpai I prefer my punk without apologies
Blame the millennials and sjw's.
Like a stake in the heart..
When friends and family DIE, maybe it aint so PUNK to make jokes so soon.
Return TooA - Wait… So are you saying that millennials comprise of one single monolithic body who all think exactly alike???
Gosh… It’s almost like you’ve become exactly like those that preceded you who used unfounded blanket statements to dismiss your entire generation.
I’m guessing that you’re a Gen-X’er and I really do expect better from us.
Nice Kieth, Jello& Jackalllegends for Punk! AS WELL AS MIKE AND NOFX!
Id love to listen to the full version of this
I see both sides, on one side.. it was a joke and while tasteless, was just black humor, and that should be seen as such.
On the other side, it was also a slap in the face to victims and the people who lost them, to say "they were just country fans".
i think punk should have a level of offensive humor, but at the same time, it is a matter of where it is directed at, which should be the status quo, Mikes joke came across as attacking the people who suffered instead of the person who made them suffer, and as such it hit a nerve, as you are also saying this in the presence of the home team... had it been in another venue, they probably would have had a little more space to play with it, but it was in the place it happened.
While they should not be entirely thrown under the bus for a bad joke, they should also have to take accountability that that joke was bad in that circumstance.
Thunder Chicken thank you best comment yet!
Morality being subjective doesn't mean that people cannot or should not have their own. In fact it means just the opposite, that everyone has their own. Assuming that moral relativism is the only valid morality simultaneously validates as well as invalidates all morality. Outside of theory one has to implement morality. One cannot be a "practical moral relativist". How could you respond to any situation with that mindset?
I was prompted to respond mainly by "subjective". If morals are subjective one can be forgiven in assuming theirs will be seen as valid. Or at least considered. But I get your point, and it was a punk rock show and gallows humor is part of that. Always has been. I was actually surprised at the amount of jeering!
Well, I agree. But I guess that booing a joke you found to be in bad taste is not really expecting an exception to be made for you. Unless they expected Fat Mike to be like "I'm sorry". It was more just expressing their opinion, I doubt if any of them had expectations of being compensated for it or anything. Anyone complaining about it after the fact is an idiot, I'm mainly talking about the event itself. Not what anyone has had to say after it.
Of course this all goes both ways which means the people "crying" have no obligation to listen to or care about your criticism of them doing so.
One dude won't shut up in the background noise
He's the drunkest guy there
all I could here was YYOOOBBAAAA YEEAAAAAAAH! YOOOOOBOOOOODAAAAAAA OOOOOAAAAAAH it seemed to happen everytime someone was actually getting somewhere in the conversation
Well they are and were free to say whatever they want. But don't cry about the consequences
My 2 favs!
Right on
People ought to STFU and let em speak. Crowds are rude. Always have been and always will be. There's always a few rotten apples in there to spoil the bunch. Love all three of these guys and have been listening to their groups for over 42yrs. T.S.O.L, Black Flag/Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedy's. Seen all of em many many times. Met and hung out with Jello & band back 1981. S.F Bay Area HC Punk Rocker for life. SPR !
Keith Morris always make's me laugh
Imho opinion all this left vs right, what is punk? stuff is irrelevant. The reality is Fat Mike directly made fun of a group of murder victims less than a year after it happened at the location. Yea I get it was meant to be a joke but some jokes go to far and this was one of them. People had every right to be upset.
But now that NOFX was kicked off the festival the situation has worked itself out. In a years time NOFX will still be playing shows and we'll all have forgotten about this. So I'm not declaring we all have to hate NOFX just that in this one specific instance they were wrong.
"Boycotting NOFX" is as easy for me as boycotting Hobby Lobby. I just live my life *exactly* the same as before. I could never stand that whiney-dipthongs way of vocalizing, even when the lyrics were good.
No ones arguing that what NOFX did wasn’t wrong, but what people are talking about is how the punishment was ridiculously harsh especially considering how many big musicians have said and done much worse things and still play fucking arenas while NOFX is basically banned from playing in the US.
Go fuck yourself
Jello’s takes and posturing are the perfect American version of how John Lydon does it
Awesome
3:37 (talking about Hobby Lobby) "What an easy chain to boycott there was nothing there for me to buy" lmao
I laughed when he called out hobby lobby I was thinking he was gonna call out chick fil a next
kIETH mORRIS 63 AND STILL pUNK! A Huge part of Punk Rock! I am 53 and still aPunk I have not been in any famous bands but had alot of fun in a band me and the drummer started and were popular playing keg parties inHS with D>A.M.M. (Drunks Agsinst MADD Mothers in the mid to late 80's I later Promoted a club in Zooport the beach and had punk shows every Fri. Not as great as you are used to but good . Had US Bombs with Duane Peters (the Pro Skateboarder 2-3 times . One Hit Wonder with Dan Root multip;e times He is also with the Adolescence. Also Joy Ride with Steve Soto also with The Adolesence. Burning Groove, Goldfingers 1st OC show I got their hookup from a blind date with a Porn Star. She was wearing their ztshirt and said I should have her friends band play . I said have them send a demo and if they are good I will. They sent a demo with a print sbout them and maybe a t shirtfrom their label. They sounded good and I booked them. A month later my very good looking X pulled up to give me a ride playing them and singing every word. I asked where did you get that it is zgoldfinger they just p;layed my Friday at Thunderbird! She replied its not mine they are on the radio on KROQ . ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZRight on it is great to have good bands get sighned many I think should be do not . Wish I saw The Circlr Jerks I almost did at House Of Blues in Anahiem but it was canceled. I did get to see Motorhead in Anahiem and speak with him for an hour at a topless bar drinking a few bourben and cokes. I RECOMENDED IT When he said must be someplace better thsn this going on asround here and only saw shrugged shoulders from the others.
Shout out to Newport, KY!
Somebody can put subtitutles this great video?, ploz. Yija yija arriba hijoooo
Mierda Humana
Get on it!
So jello.....what if the other kennedys apologize would you get back together
Thanks you! Would love to see more from your weekend. Wife and I wanted to be there!
thelowe1313 I may be uploading more tonight. Last night was amazing... Definitely already one of the best shows I've been to!
Great points
nofx and fat mike have always been offensive and its always been fine. nothing is/was ever off limits with them
replace subversive with offensive. also you are wrong, anything remotely right wing is off limits to them. if it isn't explicitly left wing than its off limits
Always been an idiot.
To have these guys all together sharing about anything punk rock it like having a punk theology book right in front of you. These guys were from ground zero of the punk rock movement. Still are. True punk rock through and through. I owe my teen life to these guys. I wouldn't have made through with out their music energy and strength.
Amen 🙏
I kind of thought Jello liked country when I heard rawhide I like country music also
They became what they fought...
You didn’t get the point if you think they became PC
@@spud_grrrl And you are out of touch with reality if you deny that they have.
Ya dammit I went to punk in drublic the first one. I couldn't believe that shit. Was still an awesome lineup. I still got a cigarette burned n stains all on it, still wearing it
Nyna from the VKTMS said that Jello Biafra ran them out of the SF punk scene for her song 100% White Girl. So Jello Biafra is a lying hypocrite in my book. He was the original PC police.
Man. Doug Stanhope really ruined my ability to be sympathetic to people that can't take a joke.
Doug Stanhope is the man.
Doug Stanhope is one of those guys that's changed everything.
Sig hail to that 😆
"Aww, someone thinks the "lefties" and "righties" are different groups; isn't that adorable?"
I fukin agree with you. Keith and Jello, you're fuckin right about that!
the idea behind trigger warnings is that after being warned a frank and "unsafe" discussion can take place.
going to see a band like nofx is a trigger warning.just like tuning in to see a show like full frontal is.
if you want something else go watch something else
NOFX can say what they want. The beer sponsor can sponsor whomever they want. It goes both ways. If NOFX and others are said they were dropped, boo hoo. They'll have many more opportunities to perform.
#AWESOME 🙌💯💪💪🤘🤘
"get back on stage"
"I'm asking QUESTIONS!"
Cool
Those guys in the audience apparently think that the louder they shout in agreement or disagreement the more weight their personal opinion carries
What did Mike say? sorry out the loop
"I mean, that sucked," frontman Fat Mike said of the shooting as he played a punk festival in Las Vegas last week. "But at least they were country fans and not punk rock fans."
As audience members voiced disapproval, he added: "You were all thinking it."
Via au.news.yahoo.com/punk-rockers-nofx-apologize-vegas-shooting-remarks-174015501--spt.html
Jello was fucking awesome at punk in drublic! and nofx fans were pissed
Someone fill me in, what did NOFX say?
"I mean, that sucked," frontman Fat Mike said of the shooting as he played a punk festival in Las Vegas last week. "But at least they were country fans and not punk rock fans."
As audience members voiced disapproval, he added: "You were all thinking it."
Via au.news.yahoo.com/punk-rockers-nofx-apologize-vegas-shooting-remarks-174015501--spt.html
Chilibro
They said "gas the juice".
@Midnight Lightning Radio Skrewdriver all had black boyfriends on the side. The neo pose was just a beard.
Holy shit, that's all? Big deal.
reading this comment section makes me ask, when did punk became right wing?
Darby Crash was openly Pro-Fascist and he is the godfather of Hardcore Punk.
lol most first wave 76/77 bands were pretty right wing except for the clash which none of them original punks liked. johnny and dee dee, the dead boys, fear, the germs, D.I, the vandals, NYHC/crossover bands, canadian punk rock thats not vancouvers DOA etc etc were all pretty right wing. Then 1988 happened with all those alternative ska rock squatters all of them politically one sided left and all coming out of California creating the perception that punk is a leftists only genre... Darby crash, peter steele, and Lee Ving loved using right wing ideology to trigger violence and riots in the punk left.
Punk isn't right wing or left wing. Thinking like that is fucking stupid
razor ramone conservative punks are nazis
Just like anything else , there are groups of very different minded people under one grouping. There are left wing, right, middle political punks( even those who claim they aren't political because that's your core beliefs). Different generations of punks look at things differently. I grew up in southern California and all the punks I knew were pretty right wing. Despite what bands may have said in the lyrics which were anti right wing( like DK), us listeners were either too dumb it didn't care. It was the same as back then not understanding that a gay guy could be " tough." However my friend of the same age from Indiana who grew up into punk didn't understand how punks could be right wing. It basically came down to us white kids in southern California just being around white people ( mainly). Indiana guy had friends if all colors. However it's also a generation thing. All the punks kids I knew who are 5 years younger than me( I'm 45) are very left wing. So I would say punks being left or right depends or generation, and who/ what they grew up around( and hopefully can grow up with respect to other people and still listen to punk). I was a punk starting in the late 80's and things were very different, and certain things like Nazis ( in so cal anyway) was definitely tolerated and never questioned until the lmid to ate 90's/ early 2000's.
Never was a fan of NOFX, but I’ve got nothing against them. They are a typical Skate-punk band to me like just about every Epitaph or Fat Wreckords (am I spelling right?) band. Maybe that’s “profiling”, but seemingly all the bands I hear are radio-warp-tour-friendly “skate-punk”, ready for commercial globalized distribution to the masses. Read Eric Davidson’s book “We Never Learn” he writes it much better than I. Now the Cramps and New Bomb Turk releases on Epitaph are so Sick! As for NOFX I used to listen to them in my high school years, saw them at least once. They toured a ton and were a hard working punk band. I’m pretty sure Fat Mike is a millionaire by now.
Now the Queers, I love, as well as The Spits: who did a split single with NOFX.
Jello Biafra was there from the beginning when the Screamers and Crime were playing, and the number of L.A. and S.F. Punks were few. And while they appreciated Detroit/Cleveland and New York/England Punk. They had their own original musical performance ideas and they put them to work on stage and on the street they were creators of their very own thrift-bomb fashion scene, not just aping Iggy and the Johnny’s. Merch hardly existed, you had to make your own.
It was Melvin that made the comment.
They were all cheering when he said “i wasn’t offended, i got thick skin” but the cheering stopped when he said “all these politically correct pussies”😂
Keith is the GOAT
Great audience
Jacks got a point.
Jack is a member of the Communist Party, watch the documentary Urban Struggle: Battle Of The Cuckoo's Nest to see proof.
@@markymarkinson7255 Okay, so? Punk is hard left anyways, you're either an anarchist or a communist in punk
How can they both be so good
Oh it's the DJ from GTA 5 lol
you're such a pussy
What did he say?
I remember when punk rock was about less government and not towing the line for the party that wants the most
It was anti government. Now it's all left wing big government. It's so weird..
I'm pretty sure it was Melvin that said he was glad it was country fans. I'm like 99% sure.
I was bummed on NOFX for about a week after those comments, and i think that's fair, bottom line is, the guy that shot those people is evil NOFX is far from evil.
They hate what doesn't represent them. That's still hate. Punk rockers are sissies. Always have been, always will be.
Fat mike said something inappropriate?. I saw NOFX at Pozo saloon with TSOL and the Misfits and mike asked a little kid sitting on his dad’s shoulders if he knew what chili dogging was. Oh the humanity.
Society is in such a tailspin that no one knows how to behave anymore. Everyone has an opinion and there’s an antagonist on every side of it. We’re further apart than we’ve ever been in this culture. More rules, more problems. Nothing can be solved without unifying, and I don’t see even a hint of unity in our society.
My sentiments exactly. We're finally connected via social media, but consciously, we're fucking drifting. It's horrifying.
Society is dead. This one is, at least.
I think the monitor is on fire.
Almost forgot cowpunk existed
I actually thought dead milkmen were cowpunk and someone told me they weren't lol
@@LeahDyson-kq4bd they are. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowpunk
Fuckin love Keith
Viva nofx
I love Jack
One thing i don't like is hearing them repeat back the official story of the Vegas shooting. Anyone can see that was different.
Jello is a sack of hot breeze. Morris is just a regular guy like most of us that’s why he makes the most sense
Aww right on!
I can't stand Jello, he just has a punchable face and his fat ass just sounds so annoying, he knows everything.
Your comment is a sack of hot fart , get a job at a sideshow
Jello is super PC.
os cars fazem churrasco na parada? que pira piradão
NOFX for life!
ilove keith
Yea wanted to hear him say more. Jello has to have his soap box show.
please dont kill me, who are these 3 guys exactly ?
a bunch of has-beens
@@bigstomp7943 yeah but honestly wich band ?
@@sirundying Jello Biafra - Dead Kennedy’s, Keith Morris - black flag and circle jerks, Jack Grisham - TSOL.
@@spud_grrrl thanks and merry christmas
If youre going to play in corporate music genre like punk you need to learn corporate responsibility. Sponsors will pull their money if you scare them with loose talk.
I forget... what did Mike say?
Fat Mike said "At least they were country fans" when referring to the victims of the Las Vegas shooting.
How come there is so much conservatives complaining about a joke
I don't remember who said it, originally, and I'm paraphrasing here, but there's a phrase:
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend your right to say it."
That pretty much sums up my feelings on this situation. I consider myself a liberal, but liberal censorship is a bigger oxymoron than Leftover Crack.
AINT NO SUCH THING AS LEFTOVER CRACK
Same here. and that principal is one of the founding ideas of our nation.
also, i used to think inwas a liberal, until i realized what the modern definition has come to mean. I am more of a classical liberal. or extreem Libertarian, which i was surprized to find is on the right side. That government which governs the least. governs the best!
What did Mike even say?
I boycotted hobby lobby because they wouldn’t let me buy cans bc i was 2 cents short. TWO CENTS
What is all this about?
I cant believe punk fans are still uploading footage that looks like it’s 2009. SHEESH
ha!
"whinny" lmao
It's DIY hahahahahaha
If they did it in 4K their comrades might think them Bourgeois.
Why does it matter in this case?
Dude Jello's opening sentence makes perfect sense as well as the rest the rest of his perspective.. Jello's always been ahead of the curve.
I love Fat Mike, i love NOFX and i really don't like country fans :D
So jello stands with jordon Peterson. Good .
It’s not Christians that are the problem at all; it’s idiots & psychos; it’s not Christians that are gang banging, playing knock out games; selling drugs & murdering “quite the opposite”; Jello just doesn’t want to feel like he’s going to have to answer for anything; but it’s always easy until it directly affects you or your family.
Satanists blame everything on God.
I'm guessing thinking is not one of your strengths
I’m glad to see this! I’m so sad that Nofx lost a lot on a bad joke. Like anybody ever watch comedians? They all say fucked up shit. And hell yeah hank III hahaha I’m mid through watching this.
Shelby Sue 13 Agreed! Yes, what they said was not in the best taste but what do you expect with NoFx? Anyone surprised by those remarks shouldn't have been at a punk show, whether you agree with their comments or not.
Brandon exactly!
What's with all the smoke
Campfire because the segment is called campfire stories…
Its ok...its called sarcasm