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If you dont pay 2x price at first pace, then you'll have to renew your computer in a shorter time. I had a Mid 2010 mac pro, which means i'd used it more than 12 years, until buying my new full spec M2 pro Mac Mini. I always buy any computer for futureproof. i think this is the best ratio of money/long time usage
Because if you upgrade them to the base M2 Pro. You're at $999.00 now.. Without all the other features the M2 Pro bus you for an extra $300.00.. It's no contest which to get. As the M2 Pro buys you way more for the money..
@@WizzRacing So you're saying the base M2 pro is better than the M2 with 512 SSD and 16 RAM upgrades? I'm almost certain I want the base M2 pro because of this but I'd really like to see a comparison in performance between those two before making any decisions. Edit: Typo
@@juanpablocervantes-gz9dt You're paying that extra cost for the CPU/GPU..The HD, Ram, 4 Type C ports and 244hz support.. So Performance will be based on if you need those. As most monitors today can support 244hz anyways. Which makes for better viewing..The 4 Types C ports are worth it. If you have to use a hub to support all your devices. that use type C connectors. Which is an extra cost if you had to buy one. So cost is up to the buyer on what they need.
Great video :) would be very interesting to see the differences between an M2 Mac Mini that has been upgraded to 16GB and 512GB. One other notable difference is that the HDMI port on the M2 Pro is HDMI 2.1 and on the M2 it is HDMI 2.0. This may be an important factor depending on use case
16:55 The on-screen tests in GFXBench (anything that doesn't have Offscreen written next to it) is limited by the display refresh rate. You were getting 60fps on both machines because the recording device they were plugged into was set to 60Hz. This test is primarily designed for smartphones and tablets, where the different display resolution makes a difference. For computers you are only supposed to use the offscreen test.
Great reviwer, but I'm not sure I totally agree in this case. If you spec out the m2 with ssd and ram as suggested, and as you probably should, then you are only 300 off the m2 pro. You could argue that the difference, once specced up, is worth it. The standard m1 is a great buy overall though. Its just a shame that apple decided to increase margins so heavily on the SSDs.
Also interesting to note is the ridiculous markup on UK models. The m2 is £650 here. The m2 pro is £1400. I still maintain that the m2 pro is possibly worth the difference if you are considering ram and ssd upgrades for the basic m2.
I am glad you made the comment of the relative enclosure speed to internal. I have Mac and PC and many times I have pointed out how rediculous it is that on any machine you can have external speed that is quicker than the internal. I bought 3 enclosures and 3 2tb NVMEs to go with them and have 2 in a RAID 0 with one on its lonesome and it cost me £750. I know there are risks with the 0 but they are backed up every hour so hopefully I wouldn't lose that much and I have resolve auto back ups set. The speeds are over 4000 read and write which is slower than my macstudio but its more than fine and the stand alone is over 2500 which again, is more than fine (luckily for me my 24" ultrafine has a 2nd TB port otherwise this would be a struggle without a hub), so 6tb for less than half the price. But see what Apple have done to me, they have made me think that set up is a reasonable price as if that is the only option!!
Only the M2 Pro allows use of 3 monitors....I'm certain Apple didn't do that by accident or an oversight. For me, 3 monitors is a must...my current setup is with iMac Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017, a 34" LG Ultrawide, and a LG 32" wide screen (LG's stock one on top the other). Then I have my old Mac from 2009 as a standalone (has music library and photos).
Well done! This is truly an amazing video! Very well detailed and thorough comparison with actual technical test. I don't understand how it's possible that you don't get nearly the views and subscribers you deserve!
Yes, please review Final Cut Pro on a MAC OS. With Davinci and Premiere Pro not really supporting ProRes RAW, non Apple users may (myself) want to know what is a good price point and requirements to edit ProRes RAW HQ in a MAC environment.
When all your current programs (and those within the foreseeable future) will fit **easily** on the 256GB internal SSD, you can **move** your entire Mac's Home folder to an external SSD. Then, from its new location, synchronise your entire Home folder (or parts of it) to a cloud service **at regular intervals** . And do not forget to make a new **additional** user account on the **internal SSD** before you start. So that you can always log in to your Mac without the external SSD attached, or in case the external SSD gets faulty.
Can you make a real life comparison between those and a pc with 13600k with rtx card, lightroom photoshop premiere, apple fans are just saying that those work way better than any pc with faster export times and smoother interface
@@theTechNotice bro now rtx 40 series support av1 encoding and decoding. Soon Premier pro can give av1 support then it will become way faster. Adobe is very lazy. 30 series is more 2 year old and has 1 encoders, now 40 series has 2 encoders for all codec. PC are much much faster in adobe apps, editing. There is no competition of PC in 3d work like running blender, cinema 4d, maya, 3ds max, vray, etc etc.
Thank you. 😃 Thank you. 😃 Thank you. 😃 I’m trying to put together a music recording workstation. I’m leaning towards the regular M2 chip, 16 gigs of RAM, and 512 SSD.
I am worried about different aspect - how fast should I upgrade M2 or M2 Pro? I suppose if I get M2 Pro, I will have a few more years before an upgrade will be really needed. Yes, I am looking to M2 24ram,1TB vs M2 Pro 32ram,1TB now it's ~70000 yen difference in Japan.
The good thing with these is you probably have 5+ years with them. Only really need to upgrade when your workflow requires it. M2 Pro would probably give you longer usage with your workflows.
The basic m2 does not seem worth it once you upgrade the ssd and ram. Its only an extra 300 at that point for the m2 pro. I would definitely go with the pro if I considered longevity and I had the budget for it.
I'm still confused after watching this video. I wanna be a RUclipsr/Content creator on a reasonable budge. Which should I go for? Should I invest on a M2 Mac Studio instead??
Really great review. I'm planning on getting a base mini as a dedicated Docker Host hide in the closet, no keyboard/mouse, no display. At idle, it already consumes less power (2W) than my mini ARM PC (4.7W). Can you do a video testing power consumption of base mini running a few Docker containers (e.g. OpenWRT, HomeAssistant, NodeRED, MQTT...) without keyboard/mouse, without display?
$599.00 add in the base memory 200GB memory bandwidth, HD size, 4 type C ports. Then the CPU upgrade and 244 hz refresh rates on the M2 Pro.. The base M2 cost $999.00 with HD upgrade and 16gb memory... So the extra $300.00 buys you better CPU\GPU, 244hz monitor support. 200gb memory bandwidth. With 4 Type C ports..
is the 16gig ram version of the m2 pro worth the price difference between it and the m2 (not pro) with 16gigs? I don't care about hard drive speed/capacity.
Hello; I hope you are well, man What is your suggestion for buying Mac Mini? I am a graphic designer, and part of my work is 3D space, but not too heavy Chip M2Pro or M1Pro? Basic model or... Thank you if you help me
Very good video, thank you! But even after watching it and many others, I still can't choose my Mac Mini. I do professional photo (Lightroom, Photoshop), home studio (Logic Pro + a lot of instruments and sample banks), and 4K video, especially timelapse (Final Cut Pro, LRTimelapse, quickly some After Effects). I have the budget either for a Mac Mini M2 with 24 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, or for the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD. What do you advise me? Thank you.
I'm in the same budget situation. I work with Adobe's After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator and premiere. Also want to learn 3D Motion design. My current setup is the base 2015 MBP (8 GB RAM / 128 SSD / INTEL I7 And I'm sure either would be a hell of an upgrade for me, but I want to be sure if it's worth investing in silicon or RAM basically. Let me know what you decide.
Love your work! This excellent review was cute and had to be done. But now will you please do an in-depth review on the ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI board for professionals? Is it stable with 128 Gigs of RAM as the 13900k has stability issues at 128 Gig of RAM; does this board's new ram control tech solve this issue? Many serious VFX professionals and motion designers need 128 GIGs of ram, especially for After Effects. Example: Can we get stability on 128 gigs of ram if we lower the speed and turn off some of the silly over clock marketing ram features that make 0.0000001% speed difference in real world professional usage? Thank you! YOU SIR, ROCK!
Thanks for the content! Could you tell us what apps those are that you're using to view cpu, gpu & ram utilization in the menu bar? I've always wanted them to be displayed that way.
So much amazing work and testing. Thank you for this. Even though you can bullied a great pc build for about $1500, running h.265 10 bit 422 through Resolve or Final Cut is a next level experience on these M2 macs compared to even a fully speced out 13900k and 4090 machine.
Is the iGPU on intel not as good or better for h.265 10bit 422 in PP or DR? I heard it was. I ask because I need a system that is good for editing such videos. I'm torn between getting an M1/M2 or rebuilding replacing my rhyzen 9 5900x with a 12th or 13th gen I9
You keep saying the Pro costs twice as much as the non-Pro but it has twice the memory and storage, both $200 upgrades, so $999 if you add them to the M2 which means the Pro is only $300 - or half again as much, not twice - as the non-Pro. That $300 is getting you the 2 extra Thunderbolt ports, HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0 and the Pro chip.
I need 1TB for your OS minimum then you can thunderbolt the rest ......... at least for my case in Music Production and Mastering but as a computer w/250... it is plenty.....
It would be nice to see the m2 pro pitted against the 2018 Mac mini Intel version. It also has 4 thunderbolt ports. It's what we use at church to run ProPresenter, with external GPU (rx580) to run 4 screens
@@WayneWatson1 no becasue it is not like for like.... and most of these tests & benchmark marks are fanboy wank jobs... and not how most IT professionals work.. I've been into apple since the Apple 1.. but I won't be getting one of these machines , becasue i need flexibility & intel compatibility...
All I need and want is just Mac Mini M2 with 32GB and 1TB but again Apple do not sell this configuration unless one upgrade to Mac Mini M2 Pro in order to support 32GB RAM
I'm sorry why are we starting at below 1TB on these machines? Really anything below that today is not okay for a product like this except the $599 one maybe.
correct me if i am wrong, if a nand chip has a failure or corruption and it is soldered on there is little/no hope for data recovery. in the faster 2 nand models if raid 0 is what makes them faster than if one of those nands fails you lose everything. those absurd ssd / ram prices really have you bent over by apple without ky
I have seen a cinebench R23 score for the i7-13700k of 29000+... If the results are comparable on these platforms, well... I5 12400F (12th gen) 78W CPU package making 12000+ points on cinebench R23... Well... The apple silicon bullshittery baloon is about to burst soon.
@@RichardStefanits Thank you. It looks like pure marketing but compared to other over priced Apple products the M2 with the Mini is a good point to test the Apple world. I still feel that I prefer the Windows world where the ROI is more realistic.
Thunderbolt pushes power out ... this is known and nothing new. USB-C is not Thunderbolt and only carries data and/or DP protocol not power as a default across all USB-C ports.
The thunderbolt ports are insanely too close to each other. Finding connectors that small are hard to find. I think the Apple designers eat too much tofu.
this is missleading and not understanding the difference of the models & why they exist. the pro is the best for CPU power, forget the efiiciency cores its all about the performance cores. you can get 8 core cpu with the M2 pro, while the base model only has 4, which is indeed double the power. for people that dont need the cpu power but gpu power the pro version allows that. so, basically it's completely the same as it was with M1. comparing the 6 core vs the 4 core is meaningless as it's just about gpu in that case. for 99% of people the M1 base model is still plenty
It seems to me that at 5:07 you are comparing 4 separate and different devices. That is totally confusing. Already we are comparing devices without clear visual labelling. They all look the same. MI, M2, M2 Pro and M1 Ultra are secret codes invented by Apple to totally confuse buyers. At this stage I have only seen a specification sheet for the M2 Pro. I predict that I will keep hearing the base model price of $599 while constantly being fed the specifications and performance data for the M2 Pro. This appears to be the general pattern for all "independent' reviews. Geek Statistics do not help if I cannot buy at a low price all of the software that I need to run securely the programs while off WiFi, and cannot store on my own secure storage material that I produce. The cost of the Apps and storage must be included in the total price. I do not believe this computer, with all its geek stats. will run Publisher, Apple's best and easiest to use free Graphic Design App, that no longer runs on iPads because Apple made it redundant. I have USD $2830 iPads that Apple made obsolete when they automatically updated my operating system software. Steve Jobs explained that Apple is superior because the Hardware and the Software are designed as a single unified system. Bill Gates offers his Microsoft software but I changed from Microsoft because I found it archaic in design, difficult to operate and it was made obsolete leaving me with projects I could not complete. I believe Bill's mate Warren Buffet holds a 10% stake in Apple. Warren Buffet is motivated by profit. He is not a Graphic Design expert. It seems to me that the design integrity of Steve Jobs is a great loss to Apple.
would be very interested in seeing how the Mac Studio stands up against these two. speculations are Apple is killing the Mac Studio because of poor sales or putting it on the back burner.
If you want a powerful portable machine, get a MacBook Pro. If you want a decent portable / office machine, get MacBook Air, or Mac mini. if you want a powerful creative workstation, shut the apple up and get a PC.
The fact that fans are not kicking it doesnt mean the chips are not frying because they re behind thermic isolation. You can make a silent pc with a noctua passive cooler. Fans are not kicking because apple wants your mac fried cooking internals so you will have to pay repair.
Very helpful video - and yes please, more Mini content: I'd love to see a similarly detailed comparison between the two M2 Pro versions, 10 and 12 core, especially in terms of whether the 12 core version will finally make the Mini's fan spin up if pushed long enough. Also, is the 1TB storage option faster than the 512GB one?
I bought the M2 base model, then I used USD 88 to get a WERO Thunderbolt 3/USB4 enclosure (JMS583A3+JHL7440 chipset) and USD 100 to buy a low-end GEIL P4L 2TB Nvme SSD (Gen 4). I can use the 2TB external SSD as the Boot Up disk. The Blackmagic test shows the the write speed of the GEIL 2TB SSD is about 2700MB/s. Very happy about the base model M2 with just USD 188 for upgrading to 2TB storage. Apple's upgrade option is just a rip-off.
When you upgrade the M2 to make it equivalent to the M2 Pro (so both have 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM) the price difference becomes much smaller, and there is a strong case for the M2 Pro base model.
I just got the base Mini M2 pro after tons of RUclips reviews and consideration. As you said the difference is worth the upgrade to the Pro. It's a desktop setup, I don't mind to pay a bit more for additional features (three monitors set up and another 2 thunderbolt 4 ports) and cores. My set up now with 3 monitors and it runs very smoothly. Happy with the Mini Pro M2!
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i love apple so much because they always sell cheap product
If you dont pay 2x price at first pace, then you'll have to renew your computer in a shorter time. I had a Mid 2010 mac pro, which means i'd used it more than 12 years, until buying my new full spec M2 pro Mac Mini.
I always buy any computer for futureproof. i think this is the best ratio of money/long time usage
When comparing M2 and M2 Pro, I think it is best to keep the RAM and the SSD the same.
In a general sense you are right. But the point here is not to compare two processors but to compare two similar machines at different price point.
Because if you upgrade them to the base M2 Pro. You're at $999.00 now.. Without all the other features the M2 Pro bus you for an extra $300.00.. It's no contest which to get. As the M2 Pro buys you way more for the money..
@@WizzRacing So you're saying the base M2 pro is better than the M2 with 512 SSD and 16 RAM upgrades? I'm almost certain I want the base M2 pro because of this but I'd really like to see a comparison in performance between those two before making any decisions. Edit: Typo
@@juanpablocervantes-gz9dt You're paying that extra cost for the CPU/GPU..The HD, Ram, 4 Type C ports and 244hz support..
So Performance will be based on if you need those. As most monitors today can support 244hz anyways. Which makes for better viewing..The 4 Types C ports are worth it. If you have to use a hub to support all your devices. that use type C connectors. Which is an extra cost if you had to buy one.
So cost is up to the buyer on what they need.
@@maiba02 Not if he is constant comparing and using processor performance tests.
Great video :) would be very interesting to see the differences between an M2 Mac Mini that has been upgraded to 16GB and 512GB. One other notable difference is that the HDMI port on the M2 Pro is HDMI 2.1 and on the M2 it is HDMI 2.0. This may be an important factor depending on use case
16:55 The on-screen tests in GFXBench (anything that doesn't have Offscreen written next to it) is limited by the display refresh rate. You were getting 60fps on both machines because the recording device they were plugged into was set to 60Hz. This test is primarily designed for smartphones and tablets, where the different display resolution makes a difference. For computers you are only supposed to use the offscreen test.
Thanks for that addition!
Great reviwer, but I'm not sure I totally agree in this case. If you spec out the m2 with ssd and ram as suggested, and as you probably should, then you are only 300 off the m2 pro. You could argue that the difference, once specced up, is worth it.
The standard m1 is a great buy overall though. Its just a shame that apple decided to increase margins so heavily on the SSDs.
Also interesting to note is the ridiculous markup on UK models.
The m2 is £650 here. The m2 pro is £1400.
I still maintain that the m2 pro is possibly worth the difference if you are considering ram and ssd upgrades for the basic m2.
I am glad you made the comment of the relative enclosure speed to internal. I have Mac and PC and many times I have pointed out how rediculous it is that on any machine you can have external speed that is quicker than the internal. I bought 3 enclosures and 3 2tb NVMEs to go with them and have 2 in a RAID 0 with one on its lonesome and it cost me £750. I know there are risks with the 0 but they are backed up every hour so hopefully I wouldn't lose that much and I have resolve auto back ups set. The speeds are over 4000 read and write which is slower than my macstudio but its more than fine and the stand alone is over 2500 which again, is more than fine (luckily for me my 24" ultrafine has a 2nd TB port otherwise this would be a struggle without a hub), so 6tb for less than half the price. But see what Apple have done to me, they have made me think that set up is a reasonable price as if that is the only option!!
Only the M2 Pro allows use of 3 monitors....I'm certain Apple didn't do that by accident or an oversight. For me, 3 monitors is a must...my current setup is with iMac Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017, a 34" LG Ultrawide, and a LG 32" wide screen (LG's stock one on top the other). Then I have my old Mac from 2009 as a standalone (has music library and photos).
Its also HDMI 2.1 on the Pro.
Same here
Too many screens just to watch pormo
Have watched a lot of reviews of the M2 before deciding which one to get
And by far this is the best one, Thanks for it.
Well done! This is truly an amazing video! Very well detailed and thorough comparison with actual technical test. I don't understand how it's possible that you don't get nearly the views and subscribers you deserve!
Good review. You helped me a lot. Now I know what I should go for. The M2 definitely is the winner.
if I configure both machines with 16 gigs of ram and 1TB drive they is only a $300 difference. The pro for me all day long.
Yes, please review Final Cut Pro on a MAC OS. With Davinci and Premiere Pro not really supporting ProRes RAW, non Apple users may (myself) want to know what is a good price point and requirements to edit ProRes RAW HQ in a MAC environment.
I saw your channel at 40k sub & stuck for long time but accidently found your channel now with 130k subscribers wow 🔥
Welcome back!
12:13 this layout of stats is confusing, instead of putting computers in rows you put scenes and then the other columns I dont know what they are
great stuff. Strange how M2 Pro draws so much more power and yet performs about the same in many tasks.
When all your current programs (and those within the foreseeable future) will fit **easily** on the 256GB internal SSD, you can **move** your entire Mac's Home folder to an external SSD. Then, from its new location, synchronise your entire Home folder (or parts of it) to a cloud service **at regular intervals** .
And do not forget to make a new **additional** user account on the **internal SSD** before you start. So that you can always log in to your Mac without the external SSD attached, or in case the external SSD gets faulty.
cant wait for photoshop/lightroom performance test!
you can’t compare this 2 only based on perf since numbers of supported screen are different and lots of other things
Can you make a real life comparison between those and a pc with 13600k with rtx card, lightroom photoshop premiere, apple fans are just saying that those work way better than any pc with faster export times and smoother interface
Let's do it!
@@theTechNotice bro now rtx 40 series support av1 encoding and decoding. Soon Premier pro can give av1 support then it will become way faster. Adobe is very lazy.
30 series is more 2 year old and has 1 encoders, now 40 series has 2 encoders for all codec.
PC are much much faster in adobe apps, editing.
There is no competition of PC in 3d work like running blender, cinema 4d, maya, 3ds max, vray, etc etc.
macOS is better than Windows OS.
@@paulhorn24 no it's not
@@steffmkd Yes it is. Much better than Windows OS. This is the truth.
Sir i think you have put wrong scores of m1 ultra geekbench 5 multicore.
It should be very high but you put same as m2 pro
Use external storage as OS/Boot Drive - Thunderbolt NVME - Can you test speed with that config ?
Thank you. 😃 Thank you. 😃 Thank you. 😃
I’m trying to put together a music recording workstation. I’m leaning towards the regular M2 chip, 16 gigs of RAM, and 512 SSD.
Yep :)
The temp is normal between 50 and 90 f according to tech specs on Apple’s website.
I am worried about different aspect - how fast should I upgrade M2 or M2 Pro? I suppose if I get M2 Pro, I will have a few more years before an upgrade will be really needed.
Yes, I am looking to M2 24ram,1TB vs M2 Pro 32ram,1TB now it's ~70000 yen difference in Japan.
The good thing with these is you probably have 5+ years with them. Only really need to upgrade when your workflow requires it. M2 Pro would probably give you longer usage with your workflows.
The basic m2 does not seem worth it once you upgrade the ssd and ram. Its only an extra 300 at that point for the m2 pro.
I would definitely go with the pro if I considered longevity and I had the budget for it.
Thanks so much for including the power draw. Very eye opening and an important metric to include when looking at the performance between these chips.
I'm still confused after watching this video. I wanna be a RUclipsr/Content creator on a reasonable budge. Which should I go for? Should I invest on a M2 Mac Studio instead??
Really great review.
I'm planning on getting a base mini as a dedicated Docker Host hide in the closet, no keyboard/mouse, no display.
At idle, it already consumes less power (2W) than my mini ARM PC (4.7W).
Can you do a video testing power consumption of base mini running a few Docker containers (e.g. OpenWRT, HomeAssistant, NodeRED, MQTT...) without keyboard/mouse, without display?
Thanks, I’m getting the M2 Pro with 32 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD.
Rich guy....
Running 95degrees day in day out (rendering), will that shorten the life of the chip considering everything that matters is on that SoC?
Did you swap your power sockets just to see whether they are not unfriendly to M2Pro
$599.00 add in the base memory 200GB memory bandwidth, HD size, 4 type C ports. Then the CPU upgrade and 244 hz refresh rates on the M2 Pro.. The base M2 cost $999.00 with HD upgrade and 16gb memory...
So the extra $300.00 buys you better CPU\GPU, 244hz monitor support. 200gb memory bandwidth. With 4 Type C ports..
Good point!
Yeah, I totally agree. The m2 pro seems worth it once you consider like foe like ssd+ram
is the 16gig ram version of the m2 pro worth the price difference between it and the m2 (not pro) with 16gigs? I don't care about hard drive speed/capacity.
Hello; I hope you are well, man
What is your suggestion for buying Mac Mini?
I am a graphic designer, and part of my work is 3D space, but not too heavy
Chip M2Pro or M1Pro?
Basic model or...
Thank you if you help me
Which one is better on weight?
Will Adobe illustrator and Photoshop will work smoothly on M2 Base model?
What app do you for measuring the temperature?
Graet video, I'm Italian and i'am a new subscriber
Very good video, thank you! But even after watching it and many others, I still can't choose my Mac Mini. I do professional photo (Lightroom, Photoshop), home studio (Logic Pro + a lot of instruments and sample banks), and 4K video, especially timelapse (Final Cut Pro, LRTimelapse, quickly some After Effects). I have the budget either for a Mac Mini M2 with 24 GB of RAM and 1 TB of SSD, or for the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD. What do you advise me? Thank you.
I'm in the same budget situation. I work with Adobe's After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator and premiere. Also want to learn 3D Motion design. My current setup is the base 2015 MBP (8 GB RAM / 128 SSD / INTEL I7 And I'm sure either would be a hell of an upgrade for me, but I want to be sure if it's worth investing in silicon or RAM basically. Let me know what you decide.
@@juanpablocervantes-gz9dt Maybe I will take the M2 Pro 16 GB RAM.
Is there a way to connect 2 Mac Minis base model to run in parallel?
Objective and informative comparison! Thank you!
My pleasure!
thanks so much.... it is very usefiul and saved my money錢💰
How can the base model handle two displays with 6k and 5k with 60Hz and not one with 4K and 120Hz?
I’m going to get the M2 8/256 for $499.99 on Friday 👍
Love your work! This excellent review was cute and had to be done. But now will you please do an in-depth review on the ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI board for professionals? Is it stable with 128 Gigs of RAM as the 13900k has stability issues at 128 Gig of RAM; does this board's new ram control tech solve this issue? Many serious VFX professionals and motion designers need 128 GIGs of ram, especially for After Effects. Example: Can we get stability on 128 gigs of ram if we lower the speed and turn off some of the silly over clock marketing ram features that make 0.0000001% speed difference in real world professional usage? Thank you! YOU SIR, ROCK!
Thanks for the content! Could you tell us what apps those are that you're using to view cpu, gpu & ram utilization in the menu bar? I've always wanted them to be displayed that way.
iStatistica Pro :)
Best Pc for Lightroom in windows? i have Ryzen 5 1600 and 2070 now.
Studio vs Mini? I am not sure which one to get
I think this line up is more difference in features rather than horsepower.
I will wait 4 Mac mini M3.
Awesome test 👍
Great! video by the way!
So much amazing work and testing. Thank you for this. Even though you can bullied a great pc build for about $1500, running h.265 10 bit 422 through Resolve or Final Cut is a next level experience on these M2 macs compared to even a fully speced out 13900k and 4090 machine.
Is the iGPU on intel not as good or better for h.265 10bit 422 in PP or DR? I heard it was. I ask because I need a system that is good for editing such videos. I'm torn between getting an M1/M2 or rebuilding replacing my rhyzen 9 5900x with a 12th or 13th gen I9
You keep saying the Pro costs twice as much as the non-Pro but it has twice the memory and storage, both $200 upgrades, so $999 if you add them to the M2 which means the Pro is only $300 - or half again as much, not twice - as the non-Pro. That $300 is getting you the 2 extra Thunderbolt ports, HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0 and the Pro chip.
Hey hi…… I might pick up an external drive 2TB and tb4 enclosure, what would you recommend please?
Wait for the video guide :)
very detailed review ... i have a question.. do you think m2 16GB ram variant can handle 4k video editing in premiere pro without much issues ?
Well, let's see :)
Prores
I need 1TB for your OS minimum then you can thunderbolt the rest ......... at least for my case in Music Production and Mastering but as a computer w/250... it is plenty.....
It would be nice to see the m2 pro pitted against the 2018 Mac mini Intel version. It also has 4 thunderbolt ports. It's what we use at church to run ProPresenter, with external GPU (rx580) to run 4 screens
Unfortunately the new M- chip macs don't support external GPUs...
It would still be interesting to see the performance difference between Apple chip version and Intel chip version
@@WayneWatson1 no becasue it is not like for like.... and most of these tests & benchmark marks are fanboy wank jobs... and not how most IT professionals work..
I've been into apple since the Apple 1.. but I won't be getting one of these machines , becasue i need flexibility & intel compatibility...
What about music production. Any advice on which machine to choose. Thanks.
At least 16GB of RAM and double the base storage :)
@@theTechNotice Got it. M2 Mac Mini or M2 Pro Mac Mini.
All I need and want is just Mac Mini M2 with 32GB and 1TB but again Apple do not sell this configuration unless one upgrade to Mac Mini M2 Pro in order to support 32GB RAM
i took back my m2 pro, maybe i should of just gotten the base
I'm sorry why are we starting at below 1TB on these machines? Really anything below that today is not okay for a product like this except the $599 one maybe.
I never used more than 300 GB. We are all different!
correct me if i am wrong, if a nand chip has a failure or corruption and it is soldered on there is little/no hope for data recovery. in the faster 2 nand models if raid 0 is what makes them faster than if one of those nands fails you lose everything. those absurd ssd / ram prices really have you bent over by apple without ky
Not 2x the price for the same ram and ssd sizes though - only £350 difference.
HDMI 2.1 is only in the Pro right?
I want to use 8 screens, which one is the best ? Thanks.
There's an app that seamlessly connects ipads. I've seen 6 displays in use concurrently. That was with the m2 pro
8 screens? But you have only 2 eyes.
That intro took me out 😂😂😂
Beforemance?
Well, I'm sold
Perfect! I would have liked to see you compare M2 Pro vs Windows built AMD or INtel Gen 13 for the same price level.
I have seen a cinebench R23 score for the i7-13700k of 29000+... If the results are comparable on these platforms, well... I5 12400F (12th gen) 78W CPU package making 12000+ points on cinebench R23... Well... The apple silicon bullshittery baloon is about to burst soon.
@@RichardStefanits Thank you. It looks like pure marketing but compared to other over priced Apple products the M2 with the Mini is a good point to test the Apple world. I still feel that I prefer the Windows world where the ROI is more realistic.
its simply a slower ssd vs a faster ssd... nuff said.
Any of these small differences appear to be statistically insignificant.
Just get Intel NUC 12 Pro. It is highly upgradable.
I do mostly 360 virtual tour and hdr photo editing. Which one Mac Mini is better for me, please suggest. Thanks
For sure! Apple makes alot of "justifications" just to make their new tech expensive
Thunderbolt pushes power out ... this is known and nothing new.
USB-C is not Thunderbolt and only carries data and/or DP protocol not power as a default across all USB-C ports.
The thunderbolt ports are insanely too close to each other. Finding connectors that small are hard to find. I think the Apple designers eat too much tofu.
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Sir my 2021 i5 12600k 250 dollar cpu scores 366 in speedometer in edge browser.
There we go ;)
So my 1200$ nuc extreme i9 11900kB with 3060 destroy m2pro
It’s weird that the M2 consumes more power at idle than M2 Pro…
great
this is missleading and not understanding the difference of the models & why they exist.
the pro is the best for CPU power, forget the efiiciency cores its all about the performance cores.
you can get 8 core cpu with the M2 pro, while the base model only has 4, which is indeed double the power.
for people that dont need the cpu power but gpu power the pro version allows that.
so, basically it's completely the same as it was with M1.
comparing the 6 core vs the 4 core is meaningless as it's just about gpu in that case.
for 99% of people the M1 base model is still plenty
Strange that you got other results than the rest....
I haven’t seen a a lot of “Apple marketing” only RUclips videos from “content creators”.
It seems to me that at 5:07 you are comparing 4 separate and different devices. That is totally confusing. Already we are comparing devices without clear visual labelling. They all look the same. MI, M2, M2 Pro and M1 Ultra are secret codes invented by Apple to totally confuse buyers. At this stage I have only seen a specification sheet for the M2 Pro. I predict that I will keep hearing the base model price of $599 while constantly being fed the specifications and performance data for the M2 Pro. This appears to be the general pattern for all "independent' reviews.
Geek Statistics do not help if I cannot buy at a low price all of the software that I need to run securely the programs while off WiFi, and cannot store on my own secure storage material that I produce. The cost of the Apps and storage must be included in the total price. I do not believe this computer, with all its geek stats. will run Publisher, Apple's best and easiest to use free Graphic Design App, that no longer runs on iPads because Apple made it redundant.
I have USD $2830 iPads that Apple made obsolete when they automatically updated my operating system software. Steve Jobs explained that Apple is superior because the Hardware and the Software are designed as a single unified system. Bill Gates offers his Microsoft software but I changed from Microsoft because I found it archaic in design, difficult to operate and it was made obsolete leaving me with projects I could not complete. I believe Bill's mate Warren Buffet holds a 10% stake in Apple. Warren Buffet is motivated by profit. He is not a Graphic Design expert. It seems to me that the design integrity of Steve Jobs is a great loss to Apple.
I wonder if Apple engineers get a kick out of these children playing in their sandbox.
m chips are just not as fast
would be very interested in seeing how the Mac Studio stands up against these two. speculations are Apple is killing the Mac Studio because of poor sales or putting it on the back burner.
isn't the MAX chip better than the M2 Pro?
@MusicPatron yeah but that's just 2 pro chips stacked together. Plus mini and studio are way too similar... they basically biting off each other
@@shaq6772 Mac 1 is actually faster and cheaper
I have not heard that about the Mac Studio...at all
@@jefferyjones8399 it was benchmarked on another channel.. The big difference I recall the GPU with the larger capacity on m2
M2 JunkShop looks as if only one core is being used.
If you want a powerful portable machine, get a MacBook Pro.
If you want a decent portable / office machine, get MacBook Air, or Mac mini.
if you want a powerful creative workstation, shut the apple up and get a PC.
Great video ! Thanks !
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Nice comparision 👍❤️
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m2 pro , cuz 8 gb is not enough .
The fact that fans are not kicking it doesnt mean the chips are not frying because they re behind thermic isolation.
You can make a silent pc with a noctua passive cooler.
Fans are not kicking because apple wants your mac fried cooking internals so you will have to pay repair.
m2 pro because of extra ports ... ?
Your Not spending cash on a Better chip, your buying a ether overall computer.
Inputs, outputs, usage, etc…
Sheesh..
M2 pro has more ports so you don't need to buy USB hub... M2 pro also came with HDMI 2.1... Has more GPU cores so better for Video Editing
It ain't double the price. If you spec both with 16GB/512GB the difference is only about a 3rd.
Very helpful video - and yes please, more Mini content: I'd love to see a similarly detailed comparison between the two M2 Pro versions, 10 and 12 core, especially in terms of whether the 12 core version will finally make the Mini's fan spin up if pushed long enough. Also, is the 1TB storage option faster than the 512GB one?
Noted!
Yes, according to Apple Podcast „bitsundso“ the M2 Pro with 1 TB SSD is faster than with base configuration 512 GB SSD.
@@paulhorn24 cheers!
I bought the M2 base model, then I used USD 88 to get a WERO Thunderbolt 3/USB4 enclosure (JMS583A3+JHL7440 chipset) and USD 100 to buy a low-end GEIL P4L 2TB Nvme SSD (Gen 4). I can use the 2TB external SSD as the Boot Up disk. The Blackmagic test shows the the write speed of the GEIL 2TB SSD is about 2700MB/s. Very happy about the base model M2 with just USD 188 for upgrading to 2TB storage. Apple's upgrade option is just a rip-off.
When you upgrade the M2 to make it equivalent to the M2 Pro (so both have 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM) the price difference becomes much smaller, and there is a strong case for the M2 Pro base model.
That's what I'm thinking. It becomes a matter of do you want better silicon with more cpu and gpu power or more ram
You’ve got fashist flag in your nik. I can only hope it’s by mistake.
I just got the base Mini M2 pro after tons of RUclips reviews and consideration. As you said the difference is worth the upgrade to the Pro. It's a desktop setup, I don't mind to pay a bit more for additional features (three monitors set up and another 2 thunderbolt 4 ports) and cores. My set up now with 3 monitors and it runs very smoothly. Happy with the Mini Pro M2!
@@juanpablocervantes-gz9dt Both. and more ports . Hence my preference for the M2 Pro TB / 16GB. Maybe 24GB for future proofing.
That’s the Apple way.