2021 here we go! First video of the year. Got alot of fun stuff coming, not just reviews. And if you want to go and check out the Solar here: bit.ly/solar50xbobeats (not affiliated)
I've seen couple of videos on this machine, but this one sells it the best! Actually showcasing it with nice reverb makes a huge difference in understanding it's usability. Good job Bo!
Pro: Good for ambiance and effects. Con: Bad for making songs. For that second one, the most practical solution is probably to sample or multisample it into some other device, then make music with the other device. Record a single note, tune it, then play it within a narrow pitch range... or record and tune a few notes for a wider range. That's how I've used LMNC's kilodrone. A single loopable sample serves as the "oscillator" for an orchestral sound, which can be shaped with an envelope to make it work as an orchestra hit or a pad. It sounds nice and huge, but can only play one or two notes at a time because there's simply no room in the spectrum for any more. Can confirm that the effect is greatly diminished when using it in mono mode though. There's not much point using an instrument like this in mono... so it's really really weird that they made the Solar 50's filter and effects mono only.
The nature of the beast, got to tune them all and that is exactly what this instrument is all about. Embrace it, it's not a drawback, it"s a feature.
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Blackhole, very nice! It's become my go to reverb as of last few months. As someone that does dark ambient music, using mostly Eurorack and 5U gear, I can see this being a much less cumbersome setup for live gigs, and touring. The Mono out put is ok by me, most of the smaller coffee shops, art galleries, and small venues are often mono (at best) anyways. But in the studio, I'm gonna use pedals, and other modules. At the end of the day, this isn't for everyone. Personally, I'm looking forward to getting mine, hopefully, it will be shipping soon!
Weird. Such a great idea and then... one mono filter. W H Y? DCOs and stereo outs with filter fx would make me want to have this. I love the idea of having so much voices!
With these many voices you could readily make a 5.1 channel surround mix if it had outputs for each set of 5 voices, if you were feeling really crazy/experimental
Cool machine.... just really don't get the design choice to have the FX and filter mono.... on an ambient drone machine in 2021.... that alone makes it a hard pass for me.
You made a great point about using this as sample fodder. I have one teamed up with a V-Synth, and it is perfect to be able to throw these massive sounds into the Roland and then sculpt them in the digital environment with all the stability it offers.
This is an example of why it is totally okay to consider using DCOs over VCOs in a synth design. That would have helped a lot with this concept being viable to the average user
Nice review Bo. That synth sounds great but I really feel the manufacturer totally missed the boat as far as the mono filter and effects. The plug in effects seems gimmicky. I'd lose those little cards. The niche it's intended for should dig it though.
It sounds massive, really nice, but i have enough on my plate keeping 3 oscillators in tune (or tastefully de tuned) on my modular...50 of them must be a nightmare! 🤣
I often listen to your videos while working, kind of like a podcast, but dang you can't imagine how quickly I made sure to have a close look at your video after hearing that opening chord. :) Happy new year!
Welcome back Bo! That it is an interesting concept, but seems odd that there isn't voice panning, stereo filters and stereo fx (as you said). I guess that's to do with the footprint and cost of the instrument perhaps? I guess you can always use some external filters as a work around. Anyway, happy new year and it looks like you're enjoying the new studio. :)
Movie scores and background music right here! A really unique, boutique synth and yes, for a smaller intended audience. Some incredible drones & sound scapes are possible. I’ve had one on pre-order since last year and I think it’s landing this month 😊
I was scrolling through the manual and noticed that the OSC (per voice) all have different ranges. (so all 5 are different) You cant just tune them one by one to the same pitch... Sry if I missed this in the video !
Im trying to figure out if the mono wet and stereo dry outs can be used simultaneously. Is this possible? Im thinking the wet signal could be another texture besides the bigger stereo sound.
So hang on - does it only have either a mono out (if you use its onboard filters), or dry outputs. There's gotta be a great technical reason why, but why no stereo filtered output?
...also, I'm super weird I guess because I find tuning and retuning my synths quite enjoyable. Not sure about 50 though. My biggest worry, where this machine is concerned, is reports of how quickly it becomes detuned. If it's as quickly as Nick suggested in his video, not sure I'd have the patience for that. Guess I'll keep searching and get a bit more user data first. But I love it really.
Actually think this one is worth it if you have a use for what this does. Scoring films, creating soundscapes, making ambient or drone music, etc. Seen friends score films with way less.
Can you not record through all 3 outputs, and the have a stereo copy and the mono, with the internal effects? I feel like I saw someone, in another review, have all 3 plugs plugged in so I thought you could.
WOW! IT. SOUNDS. SO. MASSIVE. (although the blackhole is a bit of cheating because anything trough that pedal sounds massive and amazing hehehe) The manual tuning is a big let down for me, though
What gets me is .. here we have a new expensive machine ... but to show it off , it's got to be plugged into some other machine!! Pedal .. annoys me so much .. for the money , why cant the effects be built in ...
Just my reflections from this video: If you dont tune it it sound like the station of a nuclear of a power plant... and that's bad in my ears... been there done that... tune it!!!
Not my cup of tea, I’d be bored after 1 hour with this , one trick pony, much prefer Pulser 23 as it does Ambient and EDM This does infinite Fugue drones to fall asleep to😃🤪
2021 here we go! First video of the year. Got alot of fun stuff coming, not just reviews. And if you want to go and check out the Solar here: bit.ly/solar50xbobeats (not affiliated)
I am waiting for mine... should be delivered this month... thanks for this enlighting video
I've seen couple of videos on this machine, but this one sells it the best! Actually showcasing it with nice reverb makes a huge difference in understanding it's usability. Good job Bo!
Pro : It's something new and different. Con : It is something new and different.
Pro: Good for ambiance and effects.
Con: Bad for making songs.
For that second one, the most practical solution is probably to sample or multisample it into some other device, then make music with the other device. Record a single note, tune it, then play it within a narrow pitch range... or record and tune a few notes for a wider range.
That's how I've used LMNC's kilodrone. A single loopable sample serves as the "oscillator" for an orchestral sound, which can be shaped with an envelope to make it work as an orchestra hit or a pad. It sounds nice and huge, but can only play one or two notes at a time because there's simply no room in the spectrum for any more.
Can confirm that the effect is greatly diminished when using it in mono mode though. There's not much point using an instrument like this in mono... so it's really really weird that they made the Solar 50's filter and effects mono only.
@@ToyKeeper the effects are just an afterthought, external effects are where it's all at, as always
There's enough oscillators on this thing to create a new planet in our solar system
The nature of the beast, got to tune them all and that is exactly what this instrument is all about. Embrace it, it's not a drawback, it"s a feature.
Blackhole, very nice! It's become my go to reverb as of last few months.
As someone that does dark ambient music, using mostly Eurorack and 5U gear, I can see this being a much less cumbersome setup for live gigs, and touring. The Mono out put is ok by me, most of the smaller coffee shops, art galleries, and small venues are often mono (at best) anyways. But in the studio, I'm gonna use pedals, and other modules.
At the end of the day, this isn't for everyone. Personally, I'm looking forward to getting mine, hopefully, it will be shipping soon!
mono at best? What‘s worse, stereo but only one speaker? 😂
@@mekullag I shit you not, I played at a place that had one JBL Ion as a PA system!
Weird. Such a great idea and then... one mono filter. W H Y?
DCOs and stereo outs with filter fx would make me want to have this. I love the idea of having so much voices!
With these many voices you could readily make a 5.1 channel surround mix if it had outputs for each set of 5 voices, if you were feeling really crazy/experimental
well, see it as an excuse to use a pair of Pittsburg filter modules or whatever
Cool! I've got too much gear for my own good now! Time to focus on the music but videos like this always draw me back in 😂
Cool machine.... just really don't get the design choice to have the FX and filter mono.... on an ambient drone machine in 2021.... that alone makes it a hard pass for me.
sonictstate would have sold me on it, but the tuning is just no
if a Solar 50 Mk2 comes out with DCOs that stay in tune and MIDI input, then maybe
You made a great point about using this as sample fodder. I have one teamed up with a V-Synth, and it is perfect to be able to throw these massive sounds into the Roland and then sculpt them in the digital environment with all the stability it offers.
THAT SYNTH SOUNDS MASSIVE AF. Good job Bo!
Glad to have you back. You and Hainbauch rule!!! You've given me more Zen than most. That's saying alot in these noisesome times. Kudos!!!
Glad to be here for you
Wow - the sounds on this thing are so rich. Glad you reviewed this!
That thing sounds massive, thanks for the demo Bo!
Great vid! That synth is so wild. Perfect for scoring a Christopher Nolan movie, though.
100% my thoughts! Maybe its my recent Tenet binge showing
@@BoBeats The score in Tenet was incredible!
Just wondering how capable it is with the Solar 50 to create the famous THX Deep Note sound.
I can't believe this is already unavailable. Really wanting the Solar 42 replacement!
This is an example of why it is totally okay to consider using DCOs over VCOs in a synth design. That would have helped a lot with this concept being viable to the average user
Nice review Bo. That synth sounds great but I really feel the manufacturer totally missed the boat as far as the mono filter and effects. The plug in effects seems gimmicky. I'd lose those little cards. The niche it's intended for should dig it though.
It sounds massive, really nice, but i have enough on my plate keeping 3 oscillators in tune (or tastefully de tuned) on my modular...50 of them must be a nightmare! 🤣
I think it's not ment to be in tune lol
I often listen to your videos while working, kind of like a podcast, but dang you can't imagine how quickly I made sure to have a close look at your video after hearing that opening chord. :) Happy new year!
youtube just notified me you been a sub for 4 years Floyd!! Amazing!!
@@BoBeats Yep. Without your circuit videos, I'd never tried myself and would have missed out on so many great things and awesome people. :)
Welcome back Bo!
That it is an interesting concept, but seems odd that there isn't voice panning, stereo filters and stereo fx (as you said). I guess that's to do with the footprint and cost of the instrument perhaps?
I guess you can always use some external filters as a work around.
Anyway, happy new year and it looks like you're enjoying the new studio. :)
A very interesting synthesizer indeed! Thank you so much for this, I was very curious about it!
hey Rik and thank you! Hope you have gotten a good start to the new year
I’m getting a sci-fi movie vibe, walking around in a distopian city. But the synth: I don’t have the patience 👍🏼
elta music saw sum look mum no computer and were like "yo, lets commercialize hard on that" and im not even mad
this thing is surely made for ambient / spacey soundscapes
Great video as usual! It's amazing what sounds can come out from an overhead panel of an aircraft cockpit!!👍👍
Cool synth. Weird. But cool. Must be said though that you can make a fart sound good with the Eventide Blackhole =p
now thats true!
Amazing stuff , songs beautiful! thx for introducting!
1:23 sounded like the best atmospheric black metal album opening ever.
Movie scores and background music right here!
A really unique, boutique synth and yes, for a smaller intended audience.
Some incredible drones & sound scapes are possible.
I’ve had one on pre-order since last year and I think it’s landing this month 😊
thats cool! hope you dig it
I can’t wait. Your review has just ramped up my excitement! 🤣👍
Amazing synths ! Tuning so much oscillator must be quite crazy indeed but it’s really impressive anyway.
I was so happy to see the notification for a new video, I’ve missed you!
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Great video! Such a wild synth, like the Lyra 8, and you do a great job explaining the pros and cons of taking on such a beast.
I think that may be the best Synthesizer ever created.. 💜💜💜
I was scrolling through the manual and noticed that the OSC (per voice) all have different ranges. (so all 5 are different) You cant just tune them one by one to the same pitch... Sry if I missed this in the video !
I’ll wait for the digital version with a scope. And tuner built in . If only... maybe a future version. But still very cool . 👽
just the first Demo. YES!!! I'm there.
Im trying to figure out if the mono wet and stereo dry outs can be used simultaneously. Is this possible?
Im thinking the wet signal could be another texture besides the bigger stereo sound.
It's basically Bladerunner 2049 the synth, and Wow! what amazing sounds it generates.
The person who invents a temp stabilised Auto tune hack for this device is going to be a Hero !
Incredible machine ! Thanks for the review Bo !
This is hard work and frustration in the making
So hang on - does it only have either a mono out (if you use its onboard filters), or dry outputs. There's gotta be a great technical reason why, but why no stereo filtered output?
lovely. would love to hear this beast with pedals such as H9 max. Instant space documentary OST
Doesn't H9 limit you to one effect algorithm at a time? Better to go Eventide Space + a eurorack filter per channel on the dry outs ;)
ur studio is looking really nice now, great work :)
investing idea but a very limited number of people who might actually look at buying one.
Even if given free, I would be too intimidated to use it :)
This synth has very unique sound possibilities. I would give it a try!
would your wallet be okay being £1000 lighter though?
@@cresshead I have to admit, that 1k for experimental synth is quite a lot for me.
Something interesting!
You look like you're praying to the synths Gods with your hands waving
...also, I'm super weird I guess because I find tuning and retuning my synths quite enjoyable. Not sure about 50 though. My biggest worry, where this machine is concerned, is reports of how quickly it becomes detuned. If it's as quickly as Nick suggested in his video, not sure I'd have the patience for that. Guess I'll keep searching and get a bit more user data first. But I love it really.
10:10 the camera shaking 🔥🔥🔥
bobeats vid is always a bonus
look, roland d-beam tech! 😛
not my thing but it's a very interesting instrument
That. Is. F’ing. Awesome. 🤯
Want!
Neat video Bo 👍
This sounds insane!
„Look mum no computer“, the inventor of the kilo-drone, did a good review here: ruclips.net/video/zTe4GCx5y-Q/видео.html
Actually think this one is worth it if you have a use for what this does. Scoring films, creating soundscapes, making ambient or drone music, etc. Seen friends score films with way less.
So...how much for this eargasm?
Amazing sounding synth! 👍
I like the sounds overall, but what a mess all those small dials and patch cables make.
Can you not record through all 3 outputs, and the have a stereo copy and the mono, with the internal effects? I feel like I saw someone, in another review, have all 3 plugs plugged in so I thought you could.
You can but voices will go out L/R and mic/inst input can be processed thru mono out
so good
If Ihave a tuner pedal, does it makes the work easier?
yeah i think so
Interesting sounds, but that keyboard, and those intervals, no.
Wow Great!!!
3:04
horror patch
This device is not from this planet, this is been stolen from a X-wing fighter plane, but sounds awesome too 👍🏿
Sounds like your pedal is working harder at making the synth sound ambient than the actual synth.
50 oscillators only? meh, i need a minimum of 100 .. LOL :D I can def see and hear the pain in tuning them all.. ! fun video, cheers! :)
Just buy 2!
@@haydnr1631 :D :D
@@haydnr1631 Buying 2 also helps with the mono issue.
Lookked like you said...fifty f*@%#n oscillators...😂😂😂
WOW! IT. SOUNDS. SO. MASSIVE.
(although the blackhole is a bit of cheating because anything trough that pedal sounds massive and amazing hehehe)
The manual tuning is a big let down for me, though
You lost me at 0:36 😄
Great, but Lyra 8 is enough :) thank you.
that's not fair, even a fart going through a blackhole will amaze you.... euh, does this sound weird.
What gets me is .. here we have a new expensive machine ... but to show it off , it's got to be plugged into some other machine!! Pedal .. annoys me so much .. for the money , why cant the effects be built in ...
I alway am suspicious when a synth is demonstrated with a pedal that costs the price of another synth…
Mono fx? Wtf?
..sorta sounds the same throughout the video..
Just my reflections from this video: If you dont tune it it sound like the station of a nuclear of a power plant... and that's bad in my ears... been there done that... tune it!!!
A synth with no keyboard is an abomination.
Resistance is futile.
Ahaha you're right!!
Not my cup of tea, I’d be bored after 1 hour with this , one trick pony, much prefer Pulser 23 as it does Ambient and EDM
This does infinite Fugue drones to fall asleep to😃🤪
The more i see this synth, the more terrible it seems to me.