4 Theories About The Office Too Good Not To Be True
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2018
- 4 theories about one of the best tv shows of all time, The Office. Lemme know if you guys agree with these theories, or if not, why you don't!
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Michael bullied Toby to the point of making him a psychopath
You can make a psychopath? WTF
you don't "make" a psychopath
Lol Psychopaths are born Psychopaths
You can't make a psychopath. You can, however, make a sociopath.
I always thought it was the opposite. Michael could tell something wasn't right with Toby and that's why he hated him.
We just gonna ignore the scene where Kevin says "I had Ryan explain to me what he was doing illegally at corporate twice cuz it seems a lot like what I do here."
thank you
what episode? i don’t remember it lol i might’ve missed that episode
@@artsystuff123 i don't think it was ryan that explained it to him, it was the one from the stanford branch, that was in prison. The black dude that quit after a few episodes.
@@karnasum9430 ohhh the one who went to prison?
@@karnasum9430 wait u said that nvm i can’t read lmaoooo
Toby didn’t feel guilty, he never went to confess. He went to the prison to aggregate the guy he framed in order to convince the police that the person they caught was the strangler
Cesar Cardenas this deserves more likes omg
Facts. Its not about the guilt. Why would he care if innocent ppl die if he himself was the killer
He was already sentenced to prison Years earlier tho so no point in that:/ I don’t think we will ever know. Too many ways it could go
Okay now I am too scared
The police were already convinced, and why would he try to convince everyone that he was innocent
in season 6, episode 4, dwight says “what happens in accounting, stays in accounting”, after which you can see angela do her signature grin, and hear kevin and oscar audibly laugh, insinuating that there really is something they could be hiding 😳
I’m rewatching the season and when I went back to watch it right now that exact part just came up😂
Trenton Eaves
I thought Angela did that because of how many times she and Dwight had sex there
Also there was an episode where Ryan gets arrested for fraud and Kevin says “that sounds like a lot what I do everyday”
@@onlyamberrr9635 he was actually talking about that dude martin from stamford
The big problem with this is when Angela ends up broke/homeless. Sure oscar invited her to move in eventually but there's no way she'd just go broke and if they cut her off she wouldn't stay quiet.
Disappointed that not one of the theories was about Creed😂
Adarshya Hari Theories about Creed would be a 10 hour video 😂
Theories about Creed are all true.
Yeah, Creed could easily be the Scranton strangler
Silver_Dragon49 that’s a whole new video
Adarshya Hari well creed was very open about his doings so I guess there’s no need to theorize when all the information is there😂
Toby: There’s asbestos in the ceiling, it’s a silent killer.
Michael: You’re the silent killer.
Toby:You’ll see...
Biggi cheeze He meant the asbestos were the silent killer
Lil Cheese he looked at the camera and it was just overall sus lmao
He said you’ll see bc Michael will “see” when he gets cancer bc asbestos is a carcinogen but it’s an honest mistake and I could see why you would misinterpret that
Lil Cheese r/woooosh
And also about young Dwight he said that he was going to kill him sooo
It’s also ironic that the strangler killed someone the same day Pam was supposed to have her baby. Maybe Toby was so upset that he had to strangle someone
So I've read lots and lots of the 'toby is the scranton strangler' theory and i must say it has some pretty interesting aspects. I thought about it and with this many clues it really seems like toby did the murders (for another instance he didn't want to go in the church when cece was baptized) But than, after all this little hints, i remembered something that proves his innocence without a doubt. You wanna know? Michael Scott is still alive.
@@fabienasamer6113 that would only get himself caught. cops would question anyone who knew Michael Scott and then they would find out that Toby would have a motive to kill Michael
@@siaosi8769 btw toby said in a podcast that the strangler never killed anyone, just strangled and left
(the actor)
@@fabienasamer6113 check my comment
Theory: Michael's reason for hating Toby so much is because he got a divorce. During the 'Conflict Resolution' episode Michaels tells Toby "Your solution to solving problems is just getting divorced". He phrased it this way because this was how his parents solved their "problems" and his parents getting divorced was the worst part of his childhood.
I think it is also because it's unbelievable for Micheal that someone who has a family (something that was always Micheals dream) could just throw it away.
@@floweur5810 but was Toby wanting the divorce?
@@robertwide6592 well, it might be the very fact that he was unable to stay in the family, which already makes him the biggest loser in Michael's mind.
and Michael always says how important Loyality is for him.
But Toby wasn't the only one who got divorced in the office
Theory: His birth name is Bob Vance Vance Refrigeration
You got 400 likes
It's believeable
Lmao 😂
Go pac go
This man plugs his company harder than technoblade drowning if you dont get it search a clip of technoblade never drowns
Dwight: "Identity theft is not a joke Jim, millions of families suffer every year."
Also Dwight: Has a disguise for everyone in the office when he gets into a snowball fight with Jim.
Aspfhin 😂😂😂
There's a difference between looking like someone and taking over their appearance and mannerisms.
@@PzychoMantis90 Neither of those is identity theft lol...wtf
@@marine2tough No shit.
Mind Blown :0
Michael starts being more mean to Toby after bring your daughter to work day, because he knows what it's like to be a kid with divorced parents.
Oh my god I never thought about that-
the first one isn’t a theory, it’s literally what happened 💀
I thought the same thing. I didn't hear a single theory just the story line.
Ikr
i laugh when they do videos like that xD, first something is presented as a theory with some "evidence" supporting it, and then at the end they just show Pam saying/confirming exactly the same thing trying to be proven beforehand lol, like "see, i was right all the way" hahah
I came here to write that comment :) it happened, that was the storyline and because it's a mockumentary, they even say it all out loud... literally... to the camera... xD
The theory is that Pam really went for it because of Oscar and Gil’s words
Theory: Bob Vance-Vance Refrigeration is his legal name. The reverend even says his full name at Phylis’ wedding.
l3layze I thought it was Robert because Phyllis had there initials
@@anthrax6685 Well, yes. Obviously it would be Robert Vance - Vance Refrigeration. But you know what I meant
l3layze Good point. It could be another marketing tactic. Knowing the wedding would be filmed, so Bob got the reverend to say it that way. I’d like to think he legally changed it for this reason though. Now, that’s commitment!
@@katvtay same. I think it adds another layer to the character for him to legally change his name to Robert Vance-Vance Refrigeration. Could have been for any number of reasons, but in my head, this is real.
False. Fact he’s just an excellent salesman
Fun fact: The guy that plays Toby in an interview once said that the Scranton strangler never actually killed anyone. He just strangled them, not to death
Roux Yeah that shocked me about his death sentence.
when andy is giving pam and jim cece's newspaper gift it shows an older woman was killed by the scranton strangler
bames well she was old but it is weird no one else was confirmed dead. They probably got away and they weren’t able to identify him
bames false.
@@yame8893 no, it just says "Scranton strangler strikes again"
it's funny how throughout the series you can see Toby caring less about HR throughout the seasons up until near the end when he says things like, "HR is a joke. I can't do anything about anything".
In the third season, when Martin (one of the guys who was from the Stanford branch) says he went to prison for insider trading, Kevin says it’s pretty much similar to what he does at the accounting...
exactly he basically admitted it, i was thinking that!!
Yeah but he’s saying it like he didn’t know he was doing something illegal the whole time. So back to him not being that smart.
@@missmeg1091 i still think that there is a measure of intelligence just because of the fact that he figured out a way to get more money anyway. whether he realized it was illegal doesn't undermine the acquisition of the extra money somehow. stupidity would definitely be good cover too.
Kylei Walker But if he actually was doing it on purpose, why would he even mention it to the crew? That would make no sense if it was something you would probably want to keep secret.
@@missmeg1091 Kevin admitting to the money fraud wouldn't be his first admission to the crew that no one else was aware of. he laughingly told the crew about Oscar's affair, which no one else picked up on until much later when the senator himself came out. Kevin was also keen on Jim and Pam before everyone and told the crew that Jim and Pam were "were definitely sleeping together." he's dumb enough to let stuff slip, but not dumb enough to figure things out. he's smarter than he lets on.
Exactly how much smoke did I pot
I donno its a memory loss drug.
Dwight!
“When I walked in here you said i’d be conducting this interview- NOW TELL HOW MUCH POT DID YOU SMOKE.”
Dwight wouldnt say this
Chillered he did
Is it just me or does Toby remind me of Squidward
Ys
Yup
I don't know... does Toby remind you of Squidward? I can't read YOUR mind, but I don't see the resemblance...
UncivilizedOgre he does
@@Bleeglesplotch...hilarious.
Toby: "A man is being put to death and I'm not so sure if he's guilty."
Dwight: _ohhhhhh yeahhhhhhh_
ok unrelated, but Andy's gift for Cece's birth is super cute and I'm sad that it got messed up, its just so sweet. I would've loved to have seen Andy give it to them
What was it?
@@espilon591 he put in a newspaper column announcing her birth and had it framed for Jim and Pam , but cici came a day later than she was supposed to, so the day of her births newspaper had a column of a Scranton strangler police report instead 😂
yes! it's a really sentimental gift.
the accounting theory seems like a stretch, when the senator comes out gay, and Angela becomes single she is completely broke
I was hoping someone else caught that... She was stealing office supplies for her home bc she had no money for toilet paper...
Even though Kevin literally says he does it in one episode
Part of the theory on why she went broke was due to her helping to fund the Senator's campaign.
It still kinda checks out with me though. Maybe she lost her money in their divorce or spent most of the money on her cats? She always loved her cats and I remember her buying a particular breed of cat that cost her thousands. She has a ton of cats and has been shown to drop a lot of money on them for their wellbeing. As for Oscar it costs a lot of money to run a successful campaign when your going into politics and Oscar has only had a average paying job as an account so that money had to have come from somewhere. And as for the last and least assuming guy of all I always got confused as to where a guy so seemingly dumb managed to scrounge up that kind of money to buy a bar and as the guy on the video said his explanation was just too questionable.
Oscar takes her in, supports the idea that they were in kawhoots
Michael: "You're the silent killer Toby"
Toby: "....You'll see.."
Honestly I think people nuance this too much, I think he was talking about the radon
Likely. But I thought it was funny nonetheless.
I think he was talking about both
JKrabby YES finally someone says it!!! He was clearly talking about the radon in the walls
@@Jackster1 why do you have to ra don his parade?
I think I'm the only person that feels bad for Toby
everyone feels for Toby 😔😔
@@bluemicro2708 I don’t 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ronswanson9324 that’s fair, he’s prolly the Scranton strangler
ok
My Wife loves Toby and feels bad for him. I have always believed he was the Strangler even though the actor said he wasn't.
“What line of work you in Bob?” is one of the funniest lines in the entire series
30 second theme song.
12 minute video.
I just heard that song 24 times.
*24 1/2
I only heard it Kelevin times, lol!
I am not complaining
Blue Macaw the door 🚪👈
Is that bad?
The most convincing theory is Toby being the Scranton Strangler
JoeJoe mama
Until he got strangled by the guy lol
Which could be why he kept trying to prove that the man was innocent...
Agree
yeah this one is really putting everyone in shcok
Not to mention, in the episode “A Benihana Christmas,” Jim openly talks to Michael about rebounds. He says “they can be a really fun distraction, but when it’s over, you’re left thinking about the girl you really like. The one that broke your heart.” And you can see a clear change in his facial expression, which ultimately leads you to believe that he realizes that Karen is a rebound.
Toby is already creepy and weird in it of himself so the idea of him being a murderer gives me the chills.
He is not creepy and weird. He just have heavy depression and he is just dull.
@@aithlea Most ppl consider this weird and creepy
@@aithlea Yeah he is creepy bc he whispered imma kill him about that one "mini Dwight" and weird bc of grabbing Pams knee n rubbing it with his finger🤒
In the episode,"The Convict" Kevin actually admits to money laundering.
"I had him explain to me three times what he got arrested for. It sounds an awful lot like what I do here everyday" LMAO. I love Kevin!
Thank you!!! Been scrolling through the comments thinking SURELY someone else remembers that :D felt weird that it was left out of the video
That's insider trading. Big difference.
I would assume the point here is that Kevin has been aware or he's been knowledgeable about money he's stolen from the company. In "The Convict" (and you could use the 'Bob Vance' theory) he's verbalizes his innocence by playing dumb
I just watched that episode, I thought of the same thing while watching this
You forgot that in scene I don't know what, Michael says "you are the silent killer" and Toby whispers "oh, you'll see"
justin s episode?
Surplus
He only says "you'll see" I love this theory but I think this is simply just toby saying it in reference to the dangers he just listed. BUT maybe he is saying in reference to what Michael said. Either way good catch.
Toby means the dirty air
Yeah! He was talking about how asbestos are the silent killer and then Michael said that...it sounds interesting with and without the context
Paul Liberstein (Office writer) has stated many times in interviews that he (Toby) is not the Scranton strangler and in fact the strangler isn't even a murderer... he is too weak to kill the people, he just chokes them and runs away. Toby is not too weak, this leads to a theory that Gabe might be... Any ways, Toby (writer) has officially confirmed that Toby (character) is not the strangler
Yes, he would say that. He's staying in character, and as a good actor we can anticipate that he will make that claim till his dying day.
The office theory: What is Ryan's favorite branch?
Um.... I think they mention it in the show. Is it Stamford?
@@genericusername6385 I'm pretty sure it was utica
@@brunxin9280 no, i rewatched the show. It’s buffalo
@@genericusername6385 i just rechecked it was nashua
@@brunxin9280 ahhhhhh ok. It’s not Scranton, I know that for sure
I don't understand the first "theory" It was just saying things that was obvious and didn't get to the theory 😕
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Regina Hayes the theory is that overhearing what oscar said about certain traits not being pam’s strong suits, is ultimately the reason pam grew a pair and dumped roy &. therefore ended up with jim finally
Yeah that's not a theory, it's literally implied that's what happened which them showing pam heard them talking shit about her art
Yeah, I’m with you. The first theory was just a recap of exactly what happened in the show. You hear him say that she lacks courage and honesty, you see that it affects her, and then she literally says she’s going to be more honest. What’s the theory?
I came to the comments JUST to see if someone else said this! I don’t think this is a theory, I think it’s very obviously pointed out as part of the plot... like the first time I ever watched it, I knew that was it 😆🙈
In garage sale kevin pretends to be dumb/nonchalant to take the money that andy & darryl gambled
That's what happens in Dallas baby
I really don't think Kevin is stupid. I mean, he could crunch numbers in his head.
Umm he admits that at the end of the episode
that's not a theory, that's just part of the episode
nicolas sanchez also remember when they were on the bus and he could do amazing math with food such as pies since they were going to get pies
I love how the theme song is playing the whole time
My theory is that When Toby broke his neck in Costa Rica it was a Suicide Attempt, and after that he realized that’s not the route he wanted to go on, after he wanted to inflict the same pain on other people that he had to take
the real life Patrick Bateman
He cut out the best line from the Bob Vance Theory when he introduced himself to Kevin, Stanley and Ryan, and Ryan asks "What kind of work do you do Bob?" LOL!!
David Gasper it’s actually “what line of work are you in Bob?” Sorry but small details tend to annoy me
Thats quite alright, I could have sworn I went to find the quote in another clip because I am the same way, wanted to get the exact quote.
😅😅 I thought that too. 😊
But I love the Bob Vance theory! It's funny to think of it simply as his being a bit narcissistic in the way certain self-made men can be. But the idea that he's also using the documentary crew for free advertising is hilarious. Frrankly it's well in keeping with the satire on "The Office," where a lot of people are doing things they shouldn't. 😊
Didn't he also plug Vance Refrigeration at his own wedding?? LOL!!
@@gasperdn David, that's right! And the party reward at Casino Night is a small Vance refrigerator that Creed wins! 😅😅 (And Creed says he "never owned a refrigerator before"!) This theory is making me laugh even harder at those scenes now. 😊
Also, it's more figurative foreshadowing than it is evidence, but both of Toby's injuries are neck injuries. Get it? Scranton STRANGLER
The second was supposedly the strangler himself, or atleast.... THATS WHAT THE STRANGLER WOULD WANT YOU TO THINK.
But when he visits the guy in prison he gets strangled by him so that confirms toby is innocent and the convict is guilty
Maia ? Yeah but there are some really good points made in the comment section of this video made by the office yt channel some of them brought up that Toby was making a novel on how his character got framed for murder. ruclips.net/video/4timuAnUnG4/видео.html
Maia ? Yeah but if u were to visit someone in prison guilty for murder, wouldn’t the guards make sure they didn’t attack u? So the only one with access to his neck is technically himself. He could have found someway to squeeze his neck and frame the guy in jail
Lloyd Rodriguez like 666
Theory: Brian is in love with Pam
Yes.
I don’t think so. He was divorced after he lost his job, meaning he was with someone the entire time. He got close to Pam and Jim over the years, and I really can’t imagine someone watching Jim and Pam get together and then making a move on her. Idk though, just a theory.
I know! I remember that in those episodes I was scared of Pam having and affair with Brian since she was not having a good time with Jim.
Riley Kendall ok
The reason for that is in season 9 jim and pam were going to end up getting a divorce but the idea was scraped halfway through.
Here is a theory: Gabe was the Scranton Strangler because events starting takes place after his arrival. Yes, toby was not present during the Scranton strangler car chase which i think was co incidence because later during jury duty toby was convinced that it was not the real Scranton strangler. Considering Gabe's mental health where he overthink stuff and acts as a maniac for example when he cornered andy to tell him to stay away from erin even there was nothing sort of going on at the moment plus his obsession with horror murder and not to mention wierd energy powders he had plus remember that wierd tape he played during Christmas party with everyone in it without even their knowledge showing that he has great sneaking abilities. And DM was bought back by David Wallace and gabe moved away the incidents stopped.
Omg
Also, the strangler would just strangle people and leave them be. He never actually killed them. It would definitely be the case with Gabe because he can't even blow a whistle 😂
@@Puriantartica nah in the newspaper article Andy gives Pam and jim it says serial killer and talks about how he chokes an old lady to death and she’s his fourth victim.
Can't be him cuz when the Scranton strangler was being chased by the police and everyone in the office was watching he was there with them
Nice theory tho I would have believed it if Gabe wasn't present at the office 😂
10:12 Gabe is seen talking during the chase scene
Not sure why the first one is even considered a "fan theory." I thought it was very obviously and deliberately shown that the overheard comment was one of the biggest reasons Pam finally started asserting herself. It was probably exactly what the writers were going for.
That being said, I like the Vance Refrigeration theory.
Exactly. It is something that I thought obvious in the plot.
Did you guys even watch the video? He addresses that it’s not even really a theory.
Yet it is included in a video about fan theories. And yes, I did watch it. Saying "not really a fan theory" implies that it partially is, when it is most likely a plot point that the writers deliberately included, obviously overestimating some people's intelligence.
Did you not even read the title?
And why would they even include it in the first place? Oh right, I guess they only had 3 to talk to and thought they needed another.
The office theory: What line of work is Bob Vance in?
Bob Vance Vance Refrigeration Mafia
I think it’s heating appliances
B L food truck?
car repair? i don’t think they ever mentioned his job
that’s what she said I think that Phyllis mentioned one time that he was a truck driver
"That's what"
-She
Midnight Skits I have a mug that has that on it
my teacher gave me a sticker that said that lol
I have a hoodie that says That’s what she said with michaels face on it lol
no u didnt
s o f i a ?
Not even my FBI agent knew how happy I was when Jim asked Pam out for the first time.
honestly, if you were to reimagine the scranton branch being a cover for money laundering/drug selling that went on among all the workers, it makes the show much more interesting.
Would explain why they always made the most money and were the only branch that wasn't shut down
and one episode dwight hinted at that
?? What episode
ive never thought about that, wow
Season 5 Episode 7
In the finale, when Erins' parents are telling her that they are their parents, Kevin is the first one who visibly understands the hints. Even the camera moves in to see his reaction. A few seconds before anyone else.
This should show that Kevin is not as stupid as he is IMO.
Sande24 he gets smarter every season 😉
"He's not as stupid as he is"
However, in the same episode, when dwight comes into his bar kevin says "Well well well well well. That's 6 well's." So he isn't really a genius😂😂
This is clearly him acting because he is directly in front of the camera. On the panel he was genuinely surprised and he couldn't keep the poker face.
Sande24 the deleted scenes throughout the show tells me that he's lying about being stupid
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Jim and Pam only because she was told she needed more courage in the art Gallery episode
3:10
Accounting department is laundering money
7:07
Bob Vance knows he's being recorded So he says Vance Refrigeration every time he introduces himself for free marketing
8:02
Toby is the Scranton Strangler
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@@CW-xn1ot if you're watching RUclips is saving time really a priority?
Pam's growth as a character was amazing
They did to Jim and Pam what they did to Andy though towards the end. They had given Pam growth only to then have her be insecure and immature about her feelings. At least they redeemed her towards the end compared to Andy that only got a slight redemption in the finale. They also had Jim become a distant workaholic only to resolve it by having him settle in Scranton again.
Angela could have used her money to fund the state senator...which could be why he married her...and that is why Angela didn't have any money when she got kicked out of her apartment...which also might have been why Oscar helped her (so she wouldn't turn them all in).
I thought Oscar helped her because he was with the senator, and he felt bad for her.
This is a good point. I always wondered why she was struggling so much all of the sudden. She was fine before she met the senator. This never made sense to me.
Makes a lot of sense
Don’t fucking move
Anon ymous its meme culture thats hard to explain
You missed the time that Kevin asked the ex-con who (briefly) worked in the office exactly what he was charged with (insider trading) “because it sounds a lot like what he (Kevin) does there every day.” Your #2 argument would’ve been stronger with that.
Frank Halloran yeah that might be the biggest piece of evidence in the series
Frank Halloran i remember that, i was hoping it would be in the video
Agreed. I just seen this episode the other day 👍
Insider trading has nothing to do with money laundering.
+Aangler it would've supported this guy's general theory that the accountants in The Office were involved in illegal dealings. There's no need to split hairs to make yourself look smart - no one cares.
I had the same thoughts about Jim and Karen.
Jim still had feelings for Pam and even admits it to Karen. So even if there was no Karen Jim would still be interested in Pam, but hesitant to get close to her again. So when he realized Pam's feelings for him he asked her out to dinner and dumped Karen.
Karen was just a distraction for him.
Lol. Poor Karen.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 Karen wasn't bad, she just wasn't Pam.
No Jim wasn't like that. He also said for a number of times that he didn't want to go back to Scranton because of Pam. Karen wasn't a distraction, she was real to Jim while Pam was controversial on her feelings because she was to scared tbh with her feelings towards him.
Of course Jim still have feelings for her every time in a day, but he knew how dangerous that was and for the sole reason he ended with Karen is that Pam only started pursuit Jim when she knew is Jim what she really wanted not because is Jim that wanted her.
A lot of people remind that Jim still likes her after she told that to Karen, but he still dated Karen because he knew that Karen was real and Pam a fantasy. So Karen was right about Pam being totally a bitch, because Jim told her exactly what happened before coming to the Stamford branch.
Karen was right about that to the point when Pam and Karen was about to meet again Pam was totally afraid by that fact. Karen forgive Pam for that since it has happened a long time ago.
Let me remind you Karen cried over weeks for that guy so it is totally plausible that Pam was a bitch that stoled her boyfriend in her view. Nobody sees through her side of views tho.
@@aveteranplayer6403
Karen was just a distraction for Jim because he needed a wall between himself and Pam.
Jim did the same thing to Katie. If anyone was a fantasy in the situation it was the guy that Karen wanted Jim to be.
Jim and Pam got married and had two children.
That's not a fantasy.
So that means Jim's feelings were REAL!
There were two Jim's.
Scranton Jim and Stamford Jim. Karen wanted Stamford Jim.
Pam wanted Scranton Jim.
Jim even admitted to Pam that he wasn't himself since he had come back.
So no Pam wasn't a bitch for wanting Jim to be himself. If expressing your feelings for someone makes you a bitch then so was Jim by telling Pam he loved her just a few weeks before she was getting married. Also Jim staying with Karen even after he admitted to having feelings for Pam shows that she was just a distraction because Karen staying with Jim gave him the excuse to keep using her for his own means.
That's why Jim dumped Karen for Pam when Pam expressed her feelings for him on the beach.
Karen was sad and desperate for staying with
Jim. That's why she was so eager to get Jim out of Scranton by moving to NY.
Karen let herself get hurt
by staying with Jim.
The J/K relationship was real for Karen, but not Jim.
It was Karen that cried for weeks while Jim was already buying Pam an engagement ring.
For Jim, Karen was out of sight, out of mind.
Karen was irrelevant to him.
However, that never happened for him when it came to Pam, which also made Karen foolish because if Jim still had feelings for Pam while in Stamford, then why would NY make a difference?
Jim and Karen's feelings were just one sided.
In the end it didn't matter for Karen either because she got her own happy ending.
Toby visits the strangler in prison and comes out strangled tho
Why would you be accused of being the strangler then strangle the guy who says he's the strangler good theory but alot of plot holes
Maybe when Toby visited the so called “Scranton strangler.” they strangled Toby for accusing him of something that Toby actually did.
I read somewhere that Toby went to tell face to face the guy in prison that he was the strangler and that the guy got so mad he strangled Toby
Yeah, the Toby is the strangler theory is kind of exhausting in how it keeps popping up but is clearly false. In islolation I get the idea the wrong guy could get convicted but how does Toby end up as jury duty for it?! Jury duty is a group of people selected at random - Toby ends up as Jury duty for the case supposedly actually about him..? Also really don't get the link about the Police Chase, if they're chasing Toby, admittedly can't remember if the police catch the suspect or not but if so: Toby is caught... .. and then in reply to the more recent it's just reiterating @nostalzilla 's point: How stupid are you if you're inoccent of being the strangler, to then strangle someone who enrages you.
7:22 "What line of work are you in Bob"
Bobvance Vancerefridgeration
Ernest Drake it’s his full name
I loved that moment
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2:51 i didnt know david dobrik was on the office
Katie C. Hahahaha
Katie C. Ahahaha
😂
Im laughing so hard
lmao
Welp...I just finished my first watch-through last week. That clip of Jim asking Pam if she's free for dinner still hits me right in the feels 🥹
Kevin also says “I had Martin explain to me exactly what he was in for, because it seems an awful lot like the stuff I do here everyday”
The first one with Pam's art is sweet. Gil has no reason to lie or be polite, since he doesn't know Pam is listening. Pam understands this, and that's why it hits harder than anything anyone could say to her face. I also love the magic moment at the end where Michael is still proud of her drawing (in the same episode). Michael confirms that no matter what she is, or stives to become, his Dunder-Mifflin family will never be undeserving of his love. Just brilliant 3-dimensional character-work.
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Gil is a twat. Small town gay pretending to be a high society gay.
Also, I like how Oscar subtlety stands up for her. Like, yes, those aren't her strong points, but it doesn't make her a bad person. She just needs a push to be a little braver. That's how I always saw it and I saw Oscar got annoyed that Gil was talking dirt about his work friend.
he wasn't the one doing the criticism
Alegre Franz I know.
I think Michael's moment in the episode is the strongest and sweetest moment of the show.
“If you can remember all the way back to season three”
Ummmm I’m familiar I’ve seen it about 30 times😂😂😂
Lol same
@BRADEN BRASWELL BOOOOOO
BRADEN BRASWELL “whitesed”
@BRADEN BRASWELL no one can be white you dumb ass it's a damn skin colour not a personality!!!
BRADEN BRASWELL you own Mr. Beast merch
For the accounting theory, a branch can be more profitable even if they make less revenue. They have two top 10 salesmen in the company (including the #1) two good accountants and a slight overstaff which would work out well to dominate a rural area.
Wait why did Gil call Pam’s art “ Motel art” I think her art is amazing that’s why when I bought my parents house I made the garage and art studio for her.
You tried and it ended up being cringe, the Dwight comment got 3k likes tho so you unlucky
@@Jackster1 hhahahahaa the reply is funnier then the post
Simp
the “Keleven” could’ve fit into the money laundering theory
Its still illegal one way or another. Probably is imo tho
A mistake plus Keleven gets you home by seven
Carl Goldenface “He was home by 4:45 that day”
I love the theory about Kevin !!
what’s that mean?
Kevin flat-out says he committed money laundering.
EPM 101 when
@@aceofspades8926 its actually insider trading, its in the episode after the branch merger with the guy who went to prison. Kevin says something to the effect of "i asked him to describe what he did, and it sounds exlactly like what I do here every day"
Tynan Patrick I think the pun is just that he being stupid does stupid things like unconsciously defraud... but then again, if he’s actually smart and acts dumb...
Mmmh...
I dont even count this as a theory. The show makes it pretty clear accounting has something fishy going on.
Going along with the theory that Kevin is actually smart; anyone remember the episode where Jim makes up an excuse to leave work but instead they get on a work bus? Kevin can ONLY do math when it comes to food... hmmm
who else has watched the office like 5 times, and after watching this video wants to start watching it again
I want to watch seasons one through six again...
Michael being rude to Toby is even more understandable after this money-laundering theory. Apparently, Michael knew that Toby is going to turn them to either corporate or cops had he knew of the money-laundering part. So, Michael isolated Toby and made him look like an anti-social who was there to ruin everything.
Toby isnt distrout about the wrong man being convicted hes mad he never got the attention. He clearly wants attention because he bring up the case 3 years later
Cover up maybe? His not gonna tell the camera he was the strangler
@Frank but what if the suspect wqs really innocent and the actual strangler (suspected to be Toby) knew this and stopped strangling people to make it look like it was him?
He doesn't want the attention though he feels guilty that someone who is innoccent is going to die.
@Jim Halpert A serial killer feels guilty about someone innocent dying? That’s not very serial killerish. Wanting attention for the crime is very much in the ballpark.
I think it's most likely that he did feel guilty. Serial killers can feel remorse for what there done many regret what they've done later in life
I think one thing you missed about kevin embezzling money. Is when andy needs oscar to make an accounting error and kevin offers to do so. But oscar and andy tell him hes good at making mistakes but not the kind they need. In his cut away he tells the camera very slyly that hes not stupid. Seems pretty significant.
Dmanuel Flores and when Michael offers Oscar to the big heads on how to turn DM around and Oscar shies away
lol nice 1
Dmanuel Flores he also has his own number the “keleven” so he can easily make mistakes & get away with it
Kate Elizabeth A mistake plus a kelevin gets you home before seven!
He went home at 4:30 that day.
I'm watching the office on tv now, yes I've seen it before I'm just watching reruns, and season 7 episode 19 the garage sale is on. Completely forgot about it until I saw this but Kevin is playing Dallas the board game with Oscar and Darryl for money. The money is on the table in front of everyone and they all notice it's gone. Not only did Kevin steal it right in front of 2 people supposedly much smarter then him but he convinced them that it was one of the 2 of them.
Actually Kevin “also” correctly guessed that Angela and Dwight were hooking up before anyone else.
And Michael (after asking Toby “What gives you the right . . . ?” whispers something like “I’m gonna kill you.” Did Michael’s threat trigger Toby’s murder spree?
That was one of the best set of clues for Toby being the strangler that I’ve yet to see. I didn’t realize it was tobys desk
I'm convinced by the accounting one - 3 and a half minutes into season 6 episode 4 (Niagara) after Andy says 'what's happening in Niagara stays in Niagara' Dwight says you could say that about anything - "What happens in accounting stays in accounting" and Angela does a VERY uncharacteristic evil smile!
Bluff Chill daaaaaang solid solid point
The smirk was because Dwight and Angela push their naughty parts together in Accounting. Do you even watch the show? 😂
@ADONIS RYDELL And I'm telling him, in my opinion, why he's wrong, "idiot"
Add to the discussion or move on, "idiot"
@ADONIS RYDELL did you also read the word "idiot" in Dwight's voice?
thats angela smiling about dwight and her fucking in accounting
I saw a theory where Gabe is actually the Scranton Strangler. Makes so much sense. He arrived around the same time. He's obviously a creep towards Erin. Plus, he's seen so many horror movies. He'd probably know how to get away with it
What about California then? Why not him? Makes so much sense because no one even knows his real name. Or why not Dwight? If he can kill a cat, why can't he kill a man? Make sense. I mean, all this theories are so ridiculous. Seems like people just don't like some characters (Toby or Gabe) and think something like "ugh he's so awful he can be the stranger, why not"
california is too obvious
@@asiaav297Toby does make sense as a strangler though.
Nahhh because I rewatched the show recently and they make jokes about the Scranton strangler / just mention the strangler early on but you don’t pay much attention to it on your first watch, because you don’t even know what they mean by it
when toby comes out of the prison after being “strangled” he has his hand on his neck, so maybe he was the scranton strangler he just tried to frame the guy by strangling himself
Seriously? The theme song will play in loop for the whole video?
Edit: i feel brainwashed, i can't listen to this song anymore
4 Fan Theories About The Office Too Good Not To Be True
Theory 1: Jim and Pam love each other and had a "will they won't they" dynamic.
No shit.
Ah, my apologies. It was the fact that Gil said something insulting that she and Jim got together.
Riveting.
@@averythesuperhero That's what Im saying. Like I thought it was obvious that her motivation IS what Gil said about her art
Everyone knew that they will. They are the ross-rachel equivalent of the office.
Shravan Vallaban except they stay together longer than a season.
Right?! Not a theory... just story progession.
The first “theory” was a totally intentional turning point by the directors.
Adding to the Scranton Strangler theory... In the episode of season 9 when Toby gives Jim advice about his marriage with Pam, suddenly Clark walks in and Toby gets mad and whispers to himself that he's going to kill him... Pretty suspicious I would say
Fun video. I enjoyed it. With the straggler's car being identical to one in Dundermifflin's parking lot though, my bet is that it's a crew-member's vehicle. When I worked in film, they borrowed our cars to fill up a parking lot when filming. So the redundancy could just be coincidence. If so though, pretty cool coincidence as it does cast suspicion.
omg the last theory is so good. I was always waiting for toby's character to have another benefit than just being a person for michael to hate on. this gives all of this such an interesting turn
I never heard that theory about Toby being the Scranton Strangler. After watching this video, it's possible that he was the killer. I never thought about it before.
That is the most famous theory related to The Office
How have you never heard that??
Literally the MOST famous and most accepted "Office" theory and you've never heard of it? I find that hard to believe lmao
Before hearing the theory, and while watching the series for the first time. I believed Toby to be the strangler as soon as it came up. (How is this nan going to juror himself) 🤔😂🤣
Everyone is acting like you're a weirdo for not knowing this theory. On my fourth run of the Office (late season 8). Never heard of this theory, myself. I go on reddit and know the memes, etc. It's surprising how much "common knowledge" isn't as common as we think.
As pertaining to theory 2, I think the Scranton branch is the most profitable BECAUSE they are not in a big city. First and foremost, it is often mentioned how large chains like Staples are running companies like Dunder Mifflin into the ground. You'd expect these big chains to have a much larger presence, and therefore a much stronger competitive position, in big cities, and not in relatively small markets like Scranton. Furthermore, when Michael starts his own paper company, their accountant mentions that they work on an a variable cost model, i.e. the more business they attract, the heigher their costs. In areas like big cities, Dunder Mifflin will potentially have a lower profit margin on their products, and have to commit more manpower to staying ahead of competitors, due to the competition with large chains, than Scranton does. This all hurts their bottom line, and doesn't help them in a variable cost model. I don't think money laundring is what makes Scranton such a successful branch.
I can’t believe for the second theory how the guy completely misses Kevin admitting he commits some sort of fraudulence in the Convict episode where Kevin hears Martin talk about the reason he went to prison. Kevin then admits that that sounds like what he’s been doing in accounting 😳 I didn’t catch that till watching the whole series again this time around
Really wish the intro song wasn’t looped. I already hear that song 1 million times watching the show...
At least we could skip it there...
Onesimus R - Yeah, it’s super distracting. 😂 Ah, well.
Onesimus R in lllolloololl
Cinematic Mirror lol I never skip the intro
Whayt fookin' heathens are ye ta skip the Office opening song?
#1 - Not a theory, you’re just describing character development.
#2 - I think I’m in the minority saying this but I totally agree and think this is completely probable theory. There are so many episodes where Oscar describes business, investing, finances, he really know his stuff. And the ex con episode Kevin tells camera crew he had Martin explain what he did to go to jail because “it sounds a lot like what I do here every day”, Kevin also talks normal in the very first episode or two. He doesn’t start talking “dumb” until after that. I believe he answers Pam’s question and says “Yeah, you’re probably right” and he says it completely normal. It’s the first thing Kevin ever says and it’s also the ONLY time he doesn’t say dialogue in his “dumb” voice. He’s also a talented singer/drummer combo-not an easy task for someone labeled stupid. He’s also a good golfer, which is more of a mental game than a physical one.
#3 - Definitely true.
#4 - Definitely Toby, Gabe, Robert California, or Creed.
It cannot be Creed. The show was pretty clear about what Creed was at the end
I think creed has definitely murdered at least 2 people, but 1 of them was very bloody (“it’s Halloween today, which is very good timing”) so I don’t think he strangled people lol
As for the hints for fraud, in Goodbye, Toby in Oscar's cutaway he explains Ryan is arrested for fradulantly fixing numbers to fool shareholders. This is something that was going on for a number of episdoes but was continually ignored, even though EVERYONE was knowledgable of it in Scranton and did not hide it (which means corporate knew). I think it was when soemone outside the office (possibly Karen after Branch Wars) saw the fixing of numbers amd Ryan was thrown under the bus. Otherwise, why would the company bring him back on? And Oscar was quite confident in being in the clear even though he works in accounting and would normally have had his numbers audited to make sure real sales added up properly.
David Lloyd Noo... Toby AND Creed
Ruka okigbo he’s acting stupid
I LOVE the Toby was the strangler theory. The writers clearly didn’t mean to set that up but the theory makes perfect sense.
5:30 *Isnt it suspicious, how the most **_profitable branch_** in the entire company, is the least productive?...*
The Office seems to be a cover for the activities of other, more nefarious schemes. It's certainly not an accident that a goofball, chidlike character of a boss, would run the most *continually profitable* branch -- in all of the company, which is publicly traded, by the way -- in one of the smallest cities in the region, *without keeping tabs* on his employees (chicken pot pie, anyone?), and yet, somehow, they would be the most successful out of everyone. The pure logic of it all shouldn't make any sense, to the reasoning mind, of any viewers.
after this video, the office theme song was permanently drilled into my head for 4 days straight.
Pam: I'm going to start telling people what I want, directly.
This video: The first theory is Pam started telling people what she wanted, directly.
What the hell am I watching!? lol
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The theory was about the driving force that pushed her to be so direct, not the fact that she starts being so direct. The creator of this never gives another side or argument as to why this should be a theory in the first place though....
Someone's a little slow.
The video played exactly when I read this
The theory is about the "why"
I cannot remember what episode, but when Jim is lying about taking off work, dwight brings in food from the food truck and the food truck guy did a strangling signal and said hello to toby, if thats not proof idk what is
Theory: Michael hates Toby so much because he has a secret suspicion that Toby’s the strangler
This is the best comment of all
Alright, who let the Lemonhead in here? ROTFLMFAO
He hates Toby in season 1 tho
I love how Meredith and creed are ALWAYS playing solitaire or free cell or whatever
Andrew O and half the time creed doesn’t even recognize her.
Lol I actually heard that the computers were real and the actors were allowed to play games or go on the internet
“Andrea is the office bitch, you’ll get used to her.” Proceeds to shake Meredith’s hand whilst eating the food Angela was eating before she got up from the table.
Pretty annoying that they looped the intro for 12 minutes
I didn't find it annoying
Angler Hunt fuck you i only noticed after you said it
Angler Hunt i enjoyed every second
lmao the replies above this. There are four kinds of people
Little man omg yeah lol 😂
I think the reason he told him that the documents were fake was because kevin figured out and offered him a cut
I'm very impressed by your outlook on this. Especially Pam's art theory.
The Why: Angela is embezzling money
Season 9: Angela is evicted and has to move in with Oscar
@Maddy they broke up because the senator was gay
@@justaguywithananimepfp5083 No shit sherlock.
Cats coast a lot of money.
One time, I saw Toby in New York at the Museum of Natural History. I screamed “Toby!” and he said “Hi” awkwardly before walking away. My biggest regret in life to this day is not asking him if he’s really the Scranton Strangler.
7:28
Charles Stiles Mystery Diners: Am I a joke to you?
1:21 that scene made me cry every time I saw it Imao
MONEY LAUNDERING IS TRUE!
So I was watching the "Customer Survey" episode and this is a dialogue between Jim and Dwight:
-Dwight: But then Dunder Mifflin would need to be a front for money laundering and there is little evidence of that.
-Jim: Is there some evidence?
My theory is that Dwight found out about it, but because Angela is obviously involved, he doesn´t tell the police.
Does anyone have any other theories?
Thats true I remember this
There's also a scene (in s2 or s3) where money laundry somehow comes up and Kevin says he is doing the same thing.
jonnyjoker01 convict S3
I think he found something, but then stopped when he found out about Angela’s involvement and forgot about it
@@greasyitalian476 I don't think that was money laundering.
Its not so much that Toby feels bad for the wrongly convicted, but rather that he wants credit for the murder in that deranged way that criminals brag about what they have done; he can't stomach the fact that someone else has gotten credit... of course, he would never reveal that it was him either
Finally someone who gets it!! I hate it when people bring up this point in theory discussions. Ultimately, serial killers want recognition for their killings. The reason why Toby seems "remorseful" for helping convict the wrong person is because it's not remorse, but regret. He regrets allowing another person to take the fall and credit for what he did. Up until this point in the show, Toby has literally failed at everything- his marriage, his daughter, Pam, etc. He realizes this is his one "accomplishment" and he regrets someone else taking credit for it.
And thats why he start a book about crime where he is the protagonist :0
Exactly! Why would he feel remorse for locking up an innocent person when he's literally been killing people?
Reminds me of Breaking Bad
@Cheezy Trash Bet you're fun to talk to
The Toby theory makes so much sense!! I was just going to mention the strangler visit before you did, mentioning the fact that he came out in an ambulance.
theory: toby liking pam was all an act because he knew jim and pam would end up together and so he planned that on a special time in their relationship (like cece's birth) he could pretend like he was too sad to watch but really he was killing someone. backing up information: toby made it very obvious he "liked" pam, he was not present at the hospital when cece was born, the news paper that day was "the scranton strangler trikes again" (we know that because of Andys gift). like its so obvious