His highest point of his coaching career was ending the 1940 curse. His lowest point? I'd say benching Dale Hawerchuk with his dying grandmother in attendance.
Glenn Healy was wrong when he said that Al Arbour had won 6 Stanley Cups. He actually won a total of 8. He won 4 Cups as a player, and another 4 as a coach.
The story of Keenan haranguing Dave Manson in Chicago is great. Keenan went too far and Manson lost his mind. If Stu Grimson had not been there, Manson might have brutally assaulted Keenan. Grimson managed to prevent Manson from getting to Keenan, who was terrified by Manson’s reaction and immediately began apologizing.
@@brando7266 Keenan didn't know how to win. He knew how to sell himself to general managers. He had a couple strong regular seasons and decent playoff runs with Philly in the mid 80's and then became an expert at leveraging that for the better part of a decade. Keenan knew how to talk himself into a position behind the bench of stacked rosters, and he knew how to convince others to look past their instincts that he was a bad coach. He also knew how to trade an overabundance of talent for a smaller amount of talent that was still capable of competing. That's what he knew how to do. He certainly didn't know how to develop talent or win in any situation where any hobo off the street wouldn't have done just as well if not better. The one and only Cup he won in NY was a result of the players rallying around the team's ACTUAL leader, Messier, to win despite him. Fortunately for the Rangers, Keenan had only been with the team for a few months and didn't have enough time to completely destroy all team cohesion or gut the talent from the roster. Even more fortunately, he didn't stick around afterward, so his reputation remains solid in NY. He had atrocious losing records with Florida, Calgary, Vancouver and Boston. And despite technically having a winning record in St. Louis, he is probably more hated and despised by that fan base than any other for absolutely destroying that team and any future it had for years.
@@paulybeefs8588 I guess u forgot that he led his first 3 teams to cup runs( something they hadn't done in a decade)( phily, Chicago, rangers) if he's so overated why didn't those teams do anything after he left, ? Ps- his Blackhawks and flyers teams lost to Gretzky, and lemeuix, ( the two greatest players alltime)then st louis almost beat detroit ( another great team), granted his other teams were mediocre, but those teams were already in a shit state, can't blame him for making them worse, ps- he's a top 7 coach alltime, will be in the hof,
@@brando7266 Is your question really "why didn't those teams do anything after he left?" when the only thing Keenan ever managed to do with some consistency is alienate his roster and bail for the next team when it inevitably went off the rails? I guess you forgot that Philly was already a powerhouse under Quinn and McCammon and had already been making cup runs and deep playoff runs before Keenan ever showed up? Or that Chicago's core was established under Murdoch and had absolutely nothing to do with Keenan? And why didn't the Rangers do anything after he left? Do you think it's possible Keenan sold out the future of the franchise? Amonte, Gartner and Marchant played 1,435 games for the teams they were traded to, scoring 457 goals and 970 points. In the playoffs they played 112 games scoring 31 goals and 58 points with those teams. Keenan acquirees Craig MacTavish, Glenn Anderson, Stephane Matteau and Brian Noonan played 166 regular season games as Rangers, scoring 37 goals and 64 points. They added 105 playoff games, scoring 14 goals and 32 points. And the Rangers are generally accepted as the exception for Keenan, since he at least managed to get a single cup out of a team that should have been a dynasty.
@@paulybeefs8588 if he didn't make those trades, the rangers would still be seeking their first cup in 83 yrs, , ps- r u actually saying that Keenan is not a hof coach? Thats silly, and from what I remember, not many players were left from the last flyer team to make a cup final( 1980), as for the Blackhawks, they were nothing special before Keenan got there, and were mediocre after he left,
The Bertuzzi for Linden trade was bittersweet. On the one hand, Bertuzzi was at his best, a premier power forward and superstar that Linden never achieved. But at the same time, Linden was the captain, he was effectively the Canucks personified, take him out, the whole team collapses.
Lots of minor hockey coaches are from the Iron Mike mold and it's depressing. Everytime I see the Belfour clip, I can't believe the eagle didn't punch Mike in the throat with his blocker. That no player (that I know of) didn't knock Keenan out a la Brett Hart v. Vince McMahon post Montreal screw job. Players grow up walking on pins and needles around the coach of the team - tryouts/cuts are all dictated by the coach - so I'm answering my own question here as to why no player lit Keenan up. Want the respect of the bully? Throw an elbow.
Keenan cuts yzerman from team Canada...... Years later yzerman in charge of team Canada Keenan applies for coaching position...we all know how that turned out....lol
In one instance while the Blues were playing the Buffalo Sabres at The Aud, Dale Hawerchuk's dying grandmother, who lived in nearby Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada, came to see him play one last time while she was alive. Keenan deliberately benched Hawerchuk for the game, and an unhappy captain Brett Hull screamed at Keenan, who then responded by stripping Hull's captaincy.
I once read about Keenan remembering the night the Rangers won the Cup. He went home to an empty house with it, his family having left him, and recalled: “I just stared at the thing and cried.” That’s life for guys like him.
Mike doesn’t seem to understand that the same approach doesn’t work with every player. Some players thrive under heavy pressure and that show-me-what-you’ve-got type of attitude, but others fold up like a cheap suit in the rain from that stuff. You gotta get in the head of your players and find out what they really respond to.
My name is Keenan and I hate that I get associated with this clown.. He preyed on the fact that he had power over his players, and I will NEVER respect him for that. Just an absolute joke that he was allowed to conduct himself like that.
Keenan effectively wanted to emulate Scotty Bowman. In a nutshell, I heard it said, what if Scotty Bowman never won nine Cups and set the record for coaching wins, how would his career look? It would look like Keenan's.
@@AntiMTVMovementabsolutely not. Larry brown never stooped so low as to insult his players in a matter Keenan did in public. Larry Brown was certainly a strict coach, but not a bully. Larry Brown and A.I. made up after their active careers. Hull and Keenan, Belfour and Keenan, Linden and Keenan never did.
@@MrVietDonger-y9l and yet Brian Leetch, a homegrown Ranger was the Conn Smythe trophy winner, and their goaltender was another homegrown player in Mike Richter. Without those two, I don't think the Rangers would've won that cup! Keenan had half the 80's Oilers roster with St. Louis (including Gretzky) and couldn't get anything done there!
Nah, Torts is not mean-spirited. He's emotional and often pissed off but he has a heart. You can hear many people talk fondly of him. Keenan was probably a narcissist.
How anyone could want to hire Keenan after St. Louis. Only the weird combination of Mark Messier and the cluelessness of John McCaw got him another job.
Fantastic question. Unfortunately, for Mike it seems to be neither. His career post NY was where his many demons came home to roost, so to speak. Had he left it at NY, or had success elsewhere. The respect would def be greater; because, it was certainly hall of fame worthy prior to St Louis. All coaches have to be ruthless, but the skilled ones can be cold, but by and large, teams can see their POV, if not agree with it. Keenan, sheeeeeesh, after NY he struggled getting buy in. I respect the dude gave no shits, but it was that hard headed attitude which probably hindered his personal growth as a coach. In many respects, his success with Philly, Canada and the Rangers Stanley Cup, may well have re-inforced his mind-set. UItimately, I think of Keenan as one of those potentially great coaches, who couldn't get out of his own way.
It was beautiful when Mike traded Trevor. Cause prior games. He basically try to tell the team. Nothing changes. Nothing changes.If it wasn’t for Mike the Canucks weren’t turned around then. Many good players came in after that. Mike was brought in for a specific reason. Get rid of all the dead wait here.
This is why Keenan does not belong to the Hockey Hall Of Fame . Please Lanny McDonald . Don’t put him in the hall of fame . Not in the builders category. Ty .
1:02 - I'm surprised you couldn't hear Keenan over the noise of the crowd. Such a bad tempered crackpot could yell so loudly, you'd hear him over everyone else.
Mike Keenan was the Bill Parcels of hockey. Hated till the 11th hour and by midnight you understood him and accepted his 🐂💩 because at the end of the day he made teams better
He too much of a nice guy soft we all ready have enough sweethearts that don't want to get hit or hit or block shots Tortorella would be better he knows how to beat Tampa he coached the last team to beat Tampa
I’m old and seen plenty of coaches fuck with players. Weak Captains. Big talent waisted. Overpaying bums. That’s why you fight! DEI is a cancer to everything and everyone watching it happen full speed is terrifying
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His highest point of his coaching career was ending the 1940 curse.
His lowest point? I'd say benching Dale Hawerchuk with his dying grandmother in attendance.
Absolutely the lowest. It was Ducky's last time at the Aud, ever.
Did he really do that? So mean
Babcock scratched Spezza in what was supposed to be his Leaf debut. Another A-List coach; A-Hole that is.
As a rangers fan I'm always grateful he got us the cup in 94 but he was one and done for a reason
Never forget that coaches can ruin players
Especially when they're Caillous like John Hynes, Derek Lalonde, Andre Tourigny, Rick Tocchet and even Jim Montgomery.
15:54 Russian commentary:
"Mike Keenan, showing that he is Iron Mike. And he`s prepared to fight and battle for his team!"
Bullied himself out of any chance of coaching in the NHL
Didn’t he coach and won hardware in the show though
Don't think it technically matters. He has a cup, and lots overseas
@@rolandkennedy80 that’s what I’m saying .
after his rangers stint he didnt have much success in the nhl after that
Glenn Healy was wrong when he said that Al Arbour had won 6 Stanley Cups. He actually won a total of 8. He won 4 Cups as a player, and another 4 as a coach.
Glenn Healy is a bonehead.
The story of Keenan haranguing Dave Manson in Chicago is great. Keenan went too far and Manson lost his mind. If Stu Grimson had not been there, Manson might have brutally assaulted Keenan. Grimson managed to prevent Manson from getting to Keenan, who was terrified by Manson’s reaction and immediately began apologizing.
😂😂😂 bringing a Keenan vid on Halloween!! Glad to see the vids mook!
Keenan did a lot more harm than good during his coaching career. He left teams in disarray and players disgruntled.
Keenan is a first ballot hof coach,, he did tend to burn out quick ( new teams) but he knew how to win,
@@brando7266 Keenan didn't know how to win. He knew how to sell himself to general managers. He had a couple strong regular seasons and decent playoff runs with Philly in the mid 80's and then became an expert at leveraging that for the better part of a decade. Keenan knew how to talk himself into a position behind the bench of stacked rosters, and he knew how to convince others to look past their instincts that he was a bad coach. He also knew how to trade an overabundance of talent for a smaller amount of talent that was still capable of competing. That's what he knew how to do. He certainly didn't know how to develop talent or win in any situation where any hobo off the street wouldn't have done just as well if not better.
The one and only Cup he won in NY was a result of the players rallying around the team's ACTUAL leader, Messier, to win despite him. Fortunately for the Rangers, Keenan had only been with the team for a few months and didn't have enough time to completely destroy all team cohesion or gut the talent from the roster. Even more fortunately, he didn't stick around afterward, so his reputation remains solid in NY.
He had atrocious losing records with Florida, Calgary, Vancouver and Boston. And despite technically having a winning record in St. Louis, he is probably more hated and despised by that fan base than any other for absolutely destroying that team and any future it had for years.
@@paulybeefs8588 I guess u forgot that he led his first 3 teams to cup runs( something they hadn't done in a decade)( phily, Chicago, rangers) if he's so overated why didn't those teams do anything after he left, ? Ps- his Blackhawks and flyers teams lost to Gretzky, and lemeuix, ( the two greatest players alltime)then st louis almost beat detroit ( another great team), granted his other teams were mediocre, but those teams were already in a shit state, can't blame him for making them worse, ps- he's a top 7 coach alltime, will be in the hof,
@@brando7266 Is your question really "why didn't those teams do anything after he left?" when the only thing Keenan ever managed to do with some consistency is alienate his roster and bail for the next team when it inevitably went off the rails?
I guess you forgot that Philly was already a powerhouse under Quinn and McCammon and had already been making cup runs and deep playoff runs before Keenan ever showed up? Or that Chicago's core was established under Murdoch and had absolutely nothing to do with Keenan?
And why didn't the Rangers do anything after he left? Do you think it's possible Keenan sold out the future of the franchise? Amonte, Gartner and Marchant played 1,435 games for the teams they were traded to, scoring 457 goals and 970 points. In the playoffs they played 112 games scoring 31 goals and 58 points with those teams. Keenan acquirees Craig MacTavish, Glenn Anderson, Stephane Matteau and Brian Noonan played 166 regular season games as Rangers, scoring 37 goals and 64 points. They added 105 playoff games, scoring 14 goals and 32 points. And the Rangers are generally accepted as the exception for Keenan, since he at least managed to get a single cup out of a team that should have been a dynasty.
@@paulybeefs8588 if he didn't make those trades, the rangers would still be seeking their first cup in 83 yrs, , ps- r u actually saying that Keenan is not a hof coach? Thats silly, and from what I remember, not many players were left from the last flyer team to make a cup final( 1980), as for the Blackhawks, they were nothing special before Keenan got there, and were mediocre after he left,
As a GM he did make a few moves that turned out pretty good: Pronger for Shanahan, Bertuzzi for Linden, Turgeon for Corson, Gretzky for fluff.
The Bertuzzi for Linden trade was bittersweet. On the one hand, Bertuzzi was at his best, a premier power forward and superstar that Linden never achieved. But at the same time, Linden was the captain, he was effectively the Canucks personified, take him out, the whole team collapses.
Mike Keenan had hair??
It is weird seeing him without devil's horns.
Welcome back Mook!!
The Jose Mourinho of the NHL
Lots of minor hockey coaches are from the Iron Mike mold and it's depressing. Everytime I see the Belfour clip, I can't believe the eagle didn't punch Mike in the throat with his blocker. That no player (that I know of) didn't knock Keenan out a la Brett Hart v. Vince McMahon post Montreal screw job. Players grow up walking on pins and needles around the coach of the team - tryouts/cuts are all dictated by the coach - so I'm answering my own question here as to why no player lit Keenan up. Want the respect of the bully? Throw an elbow.
His days as the NY Rangers coach reminds me of Herb Brooks with the 1980 Olympic team
This exactly
Keenan cuts yzerman from team Canada......
Years later yzerman in charge of team Canada Keenan applies for coaching position...we all know how that turned out....lol
Brett Hull once said this on Keenan: "I wouldn't piss in his ear if his brain was on fire"
Mike Keenan #1 love Iron Mike Keenan #1
Lmao
In one instance while the Blues were playing the Buffalo Sabres at The Aud, Dale Hawerchuk's dying grandmother, who lived in nearby Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada, came to see him play one last time while she was alive. Keenan deliberately benched Hawerchuk for the game, and an unhappy captain Brett Hull screamed at Keenan, who then responded by stripping Hull's captaincy.
I once read about Keenan remembering the night the Rangers won the Cup. He went home to an empty house with it, his family having left him, and recalled: “I just stared at the thing and cried.” That’s life for guys like him.
Keenan won and he did it his way. The greatest hockey I ever saw was Keenan winning the 87 Canada Cup with Team Canada
7:29 There is a gap between his scalp and his hair. I’m so bad.
haha, and look how dark his hair is compared to his weathered face, lol.
I have a boss who reminds me of this guy. He’s a cancer who nobody can stand but he’s convinced he’s the smartest man in the world
Way too many cold bosses these days. It's almost a prerequisite.
Mike doesn’t seem to understand that the same approach doesn’t work with every player. Some players thrive under heavy pressure and that show-me-what-you’ve-got type of attitude, but others fold up like a cheap suit in the rain from that stuff. You gotta get in the head of your players and find out what they really respond to.
Sergei Fedorov is a good example
Or Gretzky who Keenan ran out of town because he was so abrasive
My name is Keenan and I hate that I get associated with this clown.. He preyed on the fact that he had power over his players, and I will NEVER respect him for that. Just an absolute joke that he was allowed to conduct himself like that.
Sure Mike, we know its really you
Settle down boomer
He had a trash career though
Keenan effectively wanted to emulate Scotty Bowman. In a nutshell, I heard it said, what if Scotty Bowman never won nine Cups and set the record for coaching wins, how would his career look? It would look like Keenan's.
Honestly still sounds like a better guy than Mike Babcock
I’ve never heard of him going through players’ text msgs and pics and then using it as ammo when they weren’t playing well 🤔
Keenan was a double-edged sword. He got results and knew the game, but had an abrasive personality.
5:31 these guys call into sports talk radio A LOT.
imagine being in the middle seat between those two at a game🤣
Insufferable voices
Loved him with the Hawks but a bit of a head case
The story about Adam Graves threatening to beat up Keenan after winning a fight in front of the nyr bench is classic.
Mike Keenan is to the NHL what Billy Martin was to MLB.
Or Larry Brown was to the NBA
Hardly
@@AntiMTVMovementabsolutely not. Larry brown never stooped so low as to insult his players in a matter Keenan did in public. Larry Brown was certainly a strict coach, but not a bully. Larry Brown and A.I. made up after their active careers. Hull and Keenan, Belfour and Keenan, Linden and Keenan never did.
@@wghd6782 One of Brown's biggest issue was he wouldn't stop flirting with other jobs even while employed. Lot of why he got ousted in Detroit.
Watching a game with my girlfriend and she says , " he looks like a guy who beats his wife". Wow , was it that obvious
Yeah a total psycho, but something about him dressing down Belfore in front of everyone and him just taking it was pretty sick.
Keenan can't lace Belfour's skates.
He is risen
A necessary evil, sure as hell worked in 94’
Lol because you had one of the best players ever
@@manlymen552 and half of the 80s Oilers roster
@@MrVietDonger-y9l and yet Brian Leetch, a homegrown Ranger was the Conn Smythe trophy winner, and their goaltender was another homegrown player in Mike Richter. Without those two, I don't think the Rangers would've won that cup!
Keenan had half the 80's Oilers roster with St. Louis (including Gretzky) and couldn't get anything done there!
@@JorgeCat78 Gretzky was the one who fumbled that Yzerman game 7 winner. So it was worth watching the Joe go nuts.
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A great coach lifts his team up! He brought them down. Sad.
Don't care what he did after he was fired by the Flyers but those 4 years he was here, he got results.
Hmmm. ...you should give more credit to the players 😂
Leafs could use him
Winner!
He entertained me a lot. Like Torts. Like other legendary bullies.
Nah, Torts is not mean-spirited. He's emotional and often pissed off but he has a heart. You can hear many people talk fondly of him. Keenan was probably a narcissist.
How anyone could want to hire Keenan after St. Louis.
Only the weird combination of Mark Messier and the cluelessness of John McCaw got him another job.
A question one might have heard in their lifetime. "Would one rather be liked or respected?"
Fantastic question. Unfortunately, for Mike it seems to be neither. His career post NY was where his many demons came home to roost, so to speak. Had he left it at NY, or had success elsewhere. The respect would def be greater; because, it was certainly hall of fame worthy prior to St Louis. All coaches have to be ruthless, but the skilled ones can be cold, but by and large, teams can see their POV, if not agree with it. Keenan, sheeeeeesh, after NY he struggled getting buy in. I respect the dude gave no shits, but it was that hard headed attitude which probably hindered his personal growth as a coach. In many respects, his success with Philly, Canada and the Rangers Stanley Cup, may well have re-inforced his mind-set. UItimately, I think of Keenan as one of those potentially great coaches, who couldn't get out of his own way.
@SMC. That was a good input.
Mike Keenan
I was devasted when old man Wirtz fired him in Chicago, should have never happened except for Wirtz's ego.
Keenan just can't get over the fact he was born in Bowmanville and he's never gonna be as successful as Scotty.
Nobody's gonna be the next Bowman, especially Lindy Ruff. As for Paul Maurice, he might get 1,000 losses since he's the losingest coach in the league.
It was beautiful when Mike traded Trevor. Cause prior games. He basically try to tell the team. Nothing changes. Nothing changes.If it wasn’t for Mike the Canucks weren’t turned around then. Many good players came in after that. Mike was brought in for a specific reason. Get rid of all the dead wait here.
Wow
The moooook
7:50 what doc is that ?
This guy was tough as shit though lmao
We need more coaches like Mike. No nonsense coach. Love it!!!
No, the guy was a total idiot
Dude just shut up
Keenan is a clown
Keenan sucked as a coach and as a person and I'm sure nothings changed. Terrible guy all around
This is why Keenan does not belong to the Hockey Hall Of Fame . Please Lanny McDonald . Don’t put him in the hall of fame . Not in the builders category. Ty .
1:02 - I'm surprised you couldn't hear Keenan over the noise of the crowd. Such a bad tempered crackpot could yell so loudly, you'd hear him over everyone else.
he's always struck me as really insensitive.. maybe he had no friends .. who knows
I dont understant russian....but i could still make out the mike keenan lol
Mike Keenan was the Bill Parcels of hockey. Hated till the 11th hour and by midnight you understood him and accepted his 🐂💩 because at the end of the day he made teams better
Did Mike Keenan ride Belichicks coattails as well?
I don't know Parcells well enough, admittedly, but how many of his former players utterly despise him?
the leafs should of hired mike for the 2023-24 season. straighten out that weak bunch especially their robotic soft captain
You’d go 0-84 doing that
@@wghd6782 leafs havent won in 56 years what you got to lose they are soft and their captain is a joke as a leader
@@bb-gc2txexactly, he’s hard as nails. A lot of the superstars don’t like it, but this is a alpha coaching
Hey... Whatever works.
Whiplash
Those Rangers won a cup in spite of Keenan
Clown
Wingers such as Tim Kerr and Bryan Prop respected Keenan. Hull didn't. Kerr and Prop under Keenan took Edmonton to a Seventh game. Hull never did.
Mean Mike has always been my favorite coach.
The Florida Panthers Need Mike Keenan ASAPF
Their gonna get Torts.
He too much of a nice guy soft we all ready have enough sweethearts that don't want to get hit or hit or block shots Tortorella would be better he knows how to beat Tampa he coached the last team to beat Tampa
hes was only the bruins coach for a year and is the worst coach in franchise history
Can't be any worse than that chokejob Caillou 😂😂😂😂
That’s never true when you’re a coach who’s won championships
I’m old and seen plenty of coaches fuck with players. Weak Captains. Big talent waisted. Overpaying bums. That’s why you fight! DEI is a cancer to everything and everyone watching it happen full speed is terrifying
Keenan worst coach ever hate this guy in at Louis he is not liked at all