Why Has Jeremy Roenick Been Rejected by the Hockey Hall of Fame?

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  • @smokey2459
    @smokey2459 Год назад +579

    Visiting Detroit from L.A. in 2005, I attended aWings/Kings game wearing my Kings Gold and Purple jersey. I had rink side seats at the blue line. I stood out like a sore thumb. During warmup, Jeremy skated over to us several times, acknowledged our loyalty, and chatted with us. He tossed us a couple pucks. I had mentioned to him that I hoped my son back in LA would see me on TV, and during the game he skated over to our seats several times so the cameras were on us. As far as fans were concerned, he was a class act in LA.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +25

      Great anecdote .. thx! 👍

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 Год назад +21

      That's the other side of him. He did some decent things for other people, including fans.

    • @wantsome-zs5sq
      @wantsome-zs5sq Год назад +8

      I remember the Red Wings playing Chicago in the 1995 conference finals. It was a hell of a series. I always enjoyed watching JR against the Red Wings.

    • @carnakthemagnificent336
      @carnakthemagnificent336 Год назад +11

      And without fans, there is no league.

    • @Ba1th1azar
      @Ba1th1azar Год назад +8

      he was a class act to all fans. he was probably one of the most competitive players to play the game, and it showed through the way he treated his opponents including his long time friend amonte. but to fans he had all the time in the world

  • @evolutionXXVII
    @evolutionXXVII Год назад +544

    JR not being in the hockey hall of fame doesn't make me think less of Roenick, it makes me think less of the hall of fame.

    • @bluescreenfree
      @bluescreenfree Год назад

      Maybe if he wasn’t such a prick to people, he might get voted in.

    • @abntemplar82
      @abntemplar82 Год назад +14

      took the words right out of my mouth. well said sir.

    • @chrisdavidson8925
      @chrisdavidson8925 Год назад

      The HHOF is an old boys club. JR and Theoren Fleury should both be in there, but their honesty is too much for the old stuffy pinkos that run it.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 Год назад +4

      Yep!

    • @anthonydangelo3980
      @anthonydangelo3980 Год назад +9

      I think the same thing is happening with theo Fleury..

  • @christopherhenderson2742
    @christopherhenderson2742 Год назад +326

    One of the greatest players ever to his fans. As a kid growing up in Phoenix he was amazing. When I was 8 my family had my birthday party at the altell ice den where the coyotes used to practice. The yotes had just got done practicing and we got to take the ice. All the players left except Shane Doan and Jeremy roenick. Shane signed autographs, but Jeremy who could have just left for the day made it a point to skate around with all of us kids, make jokes and get to hang out with a pro athlete. That's something my friends and I will never forget. Absolute class act

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +13

      That is a fantastic anecdote and it was great to read … thx! 👍

    • @michaelreddick6093
      @michaelreddick6093 Год назад +7

      Roenick is an absolute legend. I'm a Pens fan through and through, but he worked through so much to never get a cup and his best chance was against Lemieux. Dealt a bad hand and unfortunately probably has CTE as a result of giving it his all. He belongs in the hall of fame without a doubt, I just hope he's doing alright.

    • @MatthewBaran
      @MatthewBaran Год назад +4

      I love when players are there for fans

    • @donnix1192
      @donnix1192 Год назад +4

      @@ProHockeyAlumni This was great content, thanks 🙏. I sat behind JR on a flight in 1996 from Boston to Chicago, the guy is a class act. We were returning home to Chicago so we were huge hawks fans. My brother and I were both playing ice hockey and he was so cool, asking us stuff -he was truly interested in talking with us the whole flight. Didn’t know his dad was a Mobil exec, my grandfather was an Amoco exec, I know how travel intensive that level of job is.

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard Год назад +1

      ​@@michaelreddick6093 he for sure has at least minor CTE I would say.

  • @keving1776
    @keving1776 Год назад +25

    As a lifetime Chicago resident and Hawks fan, I was at the airport in Phoenix in 2005. I noticed Roenick there walking and on his phone. I shouted out "JR", he immediately put his phone down to come and greet me. Great guy, great memory. Definite HOF'r along with Steve Larmer.

    • @claytongibbs7419
      @claytongibbs7419 Год назад +2

      You knew he was on the phone and still thought it was a good idea to shout his name across the airport. While it might make Jeremy Roenick look like a saint it definitely makes you look like an asshole. Bragging about it 20 years later just confirms it haha.

  • @matthewaltepeter8941
    @matthewaltepeter8941 Год назад +68

    Being a kid in the Chicagoland area in the 90's was a fun time, seeing Roenick on the ice, and Jordan on the court. My nephews recently saw JR sitting in the stands at a Blackhawks game and were nervous to walk up and say hi. Roenick was so kind, took pictures with them, and signed some stuff for them. All they wanted was to say hi. He offered to do everything else extra. Also, screw Mike Milbury for trying to bust JR's balls on air when he was emotional after the 2010 Stanley Cup. That still doesn't sit well with me to this day.

    • @bsraider87
      @bsraider87 Год назад +10

      Milbury is a stooge. JR is a legend. Period.

    • @eustaceomalley6071
      @eustaceomalley6071 Год назад +6

      Milbury probably still has issue with Roenick because he had to coach against him SO MANY TIMES. That was then... he needs some therapy to move past it... Glad Milbury isn't commentating anymore... no sense of humor.

    • @seanmcnally4818
      @seanmcnally4818 Год назад +4

      Roenick's career highlight on the ice was scoring the series clinching OT goal for the Flyers against the Leafs in 2004 to go to the conference finals.

  • @FUGP72
    @FUGP72 Год назад +234

    In NHL '94, you chose the Black Hawks, and any time you saw that you were controlling Roenick, you never pressed the B button to switch again. You would score 15 goals a game with 10 of the being unassisted, or with the goalie getting the assist. For a whole (short) season, the goalie would be the second leading scorer on the team with like 250 points in 50 games, While Roenick had 700+ goals.

    • @PharSyde6ix
      @PharSyde6ix Год назад +20

      Damn you brought back some memories. That Blackhawks team was ridiculous!

    • @hounddog3476
      @hounddog3476 Год назад +13

      Roenick the original "video game cheating guy".

    • @PharSyde6ix
      @PharSyde6ix Год назад +13

      @@hounddog3476 Technically 2nd, Bo Jackson in Techmo Bowl was first I believe. Still trying to figure out how Bo Jackson was better than Barry Sanders in that game!

    • @thomasvincennie3910
      @thomasvincennie3910 Год назад +3

      The key in 94 was to put a goon against Roenick - he had a high agressiveness rating but low fighting rating - it was easy to put him out of the game that way!

    • @hounddog3476
      @hounddog3476 Год назад +4

      @@thomasvincennie3910 well thats a strategy at least. We made you hold right for 23 seconds if Blackhawks popped on our random selection. We had to random or everyone i know would have fought over the Penguins

  • @pierrehanna1567
    @pierrehanna1567 Год назад +198

    Roenick deserves the hall of fame and the league should be embarrassed for not furthering his induction. Say what you want about him but anyone who can play 20 years in the nhl and put up those many numbers while taking that much punishment is an incredible athlete.

  • @desert.mantis
    @desert.mantis Год назад +40

    You obviously did your research while telling the story (much of which I did not know) of Jeremy Roenick.He should definitely be in the hall lot fame. He was a true great for the game. I Had no idea how many serious injuries he underwent. Yet, Roenick seemed to take them in stride and returned to the ice with great fervor.
    Thanks for another top notch video!

  • @pwm2653
    @pwm2653 Год назад +86

    100 percent! This guy was a firestorm on the ice! The NHL admin and hall of fame need to downsize their ego and admit this guy was phenomenal in hockey and for hockey.

    • @Sourmilk69
      @Sourmilk69 Год назад

      Seemed like a piece of shit that betrayed teammates and put people’s lives at risk imo

    • @mikescorpio13
      @mikescorpio13 Год назад

      a talented goon....

    • @SevenCompleted
      @SevenCompleted 11 месяцев назад

      gary doesnt want hockey played that way he wants to neuter the game to make it more friendly to jewish twinks like himself

  • @your-final-frontier
    @your-final-frontier Год назад +30

    I am Canadian in my 70s, so I remember when the only American in the 6 team NHL
    was Tommy Williams in Boston. I always enjoyed watching all of the allstar players Chicago had then like Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita and I got a thrill watching Goalie Glenn Hall and his wandering backup young goalie Denny de Jordy.
    Fast forward to Jeremy Roenick's playing career, he was a damn good , tough player on every team he played for and was nearly always a timely scorer. One of many Americans who have shown they belong amongst the World's best players too.
    He DEFINETLY should be in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
    Keep the damn politics out of it.
    Put him in!!
    He earned it!

    • @MARCELGOYETTE
      @MARCELGOYETTE Год назад +1

      Right on !😊

    • @belfastboyable
      @belfastboyable 11 месяцев назад

      ????what about Charlie BURNS

    • @rayduffy475
      @rayduffy475 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MARCELGOYETTE🎉

    • @DaleStubitsch
      @DaleStubitsch 8 месяцев назад

      Glenn Hall and Denis DeJordy..... kudos! Haven't thought of those names (especially DeJordy) in years.

  • @chizorama
    @chizorama Год назад +74

    JR was a beast who gave his all every shift. Clutch goals, true grit, fearlessly taking on players that towered over him & passion for the game. Outspoken? Yes, but he brought character to the game. Definitely a HOF'r.

    • @shuvmesumknowlegde
      @shuvmesumknowlegde Год назад +1

      He was also dirty

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid Год назад +7

      @@shuvmesumknowlegde Howe was loved for that

    • @chizorama
      @chizorama Год назад +1

      @@shuvmesumknowlegde Hockey in general was a lot dirtier back then, it wasn't like he stuck out as the dirtiest player.

    • @devinhapanovich8428
      @devinhapanovich8428 Год назад +1

      Who cares what he says it’s on the ICE that matters

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy 9 месяцев назад

      @@devinhapanovich8428
      There is just something really screwed-up about Eric Lindros being in the HOF and Roenick isn't. Lindros had a career that was merely good and was always judged on his natural talent and potential. He could've been great but just wasn't. Lindros was a cancer in the locker-room, he was always a major distraction (and not in a good way), way too much BS was tolerated from his parents, and yet all his PR crap (and there was A LOT) never detracted from him getting in. Roenick doesn't deserve even one-quarter of that same consideration? Roenick actually went out, gave it his all every night, and got it done but is not worthy for the HOF? 575 goals isn't good enough? That's messed-up.

  • @42awww
    @42awww Год назад +16

    Although Roenick would often destroy my Leafs' hopes, I always loved the guy. I admired his play, his clean hits, but most of all, his everyday Joe status. He spoke his mind, and would very often be right. I've only seen a few players like that in my 52 yrs of being a big hockey fan. Brett Hull and Todd Gill could be counted on to say something profound when interviewed. Before that, Tiger Williams and Bryan Spencer were also priceless. I wish Jeremy nothing but success in the future.

    • @johncraftenworth7847
      @johncraftenworth7847 10 месяцев назад +1

      are you saying hull and gill were profound and roenick was blunt and not profound in comparison?

    • @42awww
      @42awww 10 месяцев назад

      @@johncraftenworth7847 lol. Not at al!

  • @shawngregory1429
    @shawngregory1429 Год назад +120

    How can a guy with 500 goals not be in the HOF? I’m not a huge hockey fan, but I always looked at 500 goals like 3000 hits in baseball ; instant HOF.

    • @skyehorvath9063
      @skyehorvath9063 Год назад +17

      Pat Verbeek, the original Little Ball of Hate, also has over 500 goals, and he will never get in either.
      Yet, the HOF puts in Cam Neely who has 600 points less than Vincent Damphousse who will also never get a glance with 1,200 points. Then the HOF puts in two Orange Twins from Vancouver, who hardly scored. Nonsense

    • @turkeyman631
      @turkeyman631 Год назад

      @@TheNHLRebel Yeah, absolutely idiotic.

    • @seanmcnally4818
      @seanmcnally4818 Год назад

      ​@@skyehorvath9063Yes, but not every baseball player who hits 500 home runs makes the Hall of Fame.
      Not every 1,000 point scorer isn't in the Hall of Fame either. Is Ray Whitney a HOFer???

    • @johncraftenworth7847
      @johncraftenworth7847 10 месяцев назад

      bc sports betting and association with gambling business / ring. similar thing happened to pete rose, they don't know fans to know that there is corruption, or that they can't trust a fair match, it tarneshes the entire NHL

    • @mikewalsh7793
      @mikewalsh7793 9 месяцев назад

      They're from Sweden, and they were incredible hockey players who had a completely unique style. They deserve to be in the HOF. @@skyehorvath9063

  • @kmcbride1832
    @kmcbride1832 Год назад +10

    I watched this video just because I saw the link and thought "What? Jeremy Roenik ISN"T in the HOF?" Who wouldn't want him on your hockey team? The selection committee needs to vote based on performance not whether or not whether or not someone hurt their feelings off ice.

  • @RyanPatrickOwens
    @RyanPatrickOwens 9 месяцев назад +2

    Listening to the announcers say "shoulder to chin. Great hit" and "it looked like a clean hit, didn't it?" is wild.

  • @mortimerbrewster1028
    @mortimerbrewster1028 Год назад +27

    Roenick should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. His combination of scoring ability combined with his toughness makes his career very unique. He was an original 6 era type player. His stellar play for the Blackhawks his first two seasons enabled Chicago to trade Denis Savard to the Canadiens for Chris Chelios. Very informative presentation as usual.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      Thanks, Mort for your always in-depth analysis 👍

  • @KramerWaifu
    @KramerWaifu Год назад +18

    My absolute favorite player of all time. Growing up in Chicago and following him throughout his career was something special, he's one of the reasons I played hockey as a youngster and still play today in Beer League. Hope I get to see him make it to the HOF someday.

    • @LastLetterisZed702
      @LastLetterisZed702 Год назад +2

      At first it seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame are doing the right thing by keeping Roenick out. Way too many off ice distractions were in the making of a headcase. J.R. could not even get a friend from his home country (USA) to like him. Aside from that disastrous time with the Blackhawks, he still had excellent offensive seasons. Any player who scores 50 goals twice and notched more than 500 goals, definitely belongs in the Hockey Hall of Hame.

    • @donnix1192
      @donnix1192 Год назад +2

      Growing up in Chicago area and playing ice hockey in the 90s I was such a fan. My brother and I sat behind him on a United Airlines flight from Boston to Chicago in the summer of 1996. He was the nicest athlete, maybe just person I have ever met. He was genuinely interested in what we had to say, he talked with us the entire flight. I never knew until this video his dad was a Mobil executive, my grandfather was an Amoco executive and I know how travel intensive that type of job is, glad he was able to play and become a legendary Blackhawk.

  • @morganmurphy38
    @morganmurphy38 Год назад +9

    9:44 “shoulder to chin that’s a great hit” jeeeeeeeeeeeesus how times have changed 😳

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +1

      I wondered when somebody would comment on that! Times have certainly changed!

    • @DeathBySnooSnoo-yh5cc
      @DeathBySnooSnoo-yh5cc 8 месяцев назад

      @@ProHockeyAlumni fir the wurse

  • @jonokiller
    @jonokiller Год назад +28

    Roenick was one tough SOB even if the HHoF doesnt recognize him. All the fans know he is a legend

  • @austinrhodes2963
    @austinrhodes2963 Год назад +35

    J.R. is the reason I became a hockey fan. I grew up in Alabama. After watching him play, I got a bunch of my friends to buy Rollerblades and we would have full blown games in the parking lot of a local park. Hockey with my friends was the only time that I was the best at anything. If not for J.R. inspiring me to play hockey, I wouldn't have found something that gave me confidence that I could be good at something and I wouldn't have some of the best memories of my childhood. So.... yeah, J.R. should be in the HOF if for no other reason than he got a scrawny kid from Alabama to fall in love with hockey.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +4

      super comment ... thanks for sharing your experience. awesome!

    • @richardwestmoreland4796
      @richardwestmoreland4796 Год назад +4

      This has to be one of the best stories I've ever heard about how someone came to love the game of hockey. I too love the game and I find it fascinating that a kid from Alabama where hockey is probably just an afterthought to most people was even able to watch hockey let alone get a bunch of friends together and start playing it albeit on Rollerblades. I have never been to Alabama but I can't imagine there being much of an opportunity to take up the game in the same way that us Canadian kids do. We practically lived and breathed hockey day after day. Probably much like Americans love their football. I grew up in a small town in the northern part of the province of British Columbia a long ways from the bright lights of any big city when playing or watching hockey was something that everyone seemed to be into. Your comment about how hockey gave you the confidence that you could be good at something is very similar to what I experienced. I was the scrawny kid who only had a few close friends and needed something to help me with my confidence and that something turned out to be hockey and the people involved with it. Like you hockey gave me some of my best memories of my childhood. I found this piece on Jeremy Roenick very interesting even though he and I are very different. It seems like JR would be someone that I would get along with just fine as he at least appears to care about the little guy even though he travels in circles of celebrity of which I know little about and would never be comfortable with all the attention those people have to endure. JR may not be popular or well liked by some people but he at least seems to care about fans and will go out of his way to show his appreciation for their support. As for being in the HOF if the Hall is for the best to have ever played in the NHL then JR deserves to be inducted. We all make mistakes and I would think that JR is probably somewhat remorseful for some of the mistakes he's made. To hold JR out of the HOF because of his personality or some of the mistakes he's made seems to be a bit unfair to me. Take care Austen.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Год назад +1

      I’m from Alabama as well (Scottsboro) and grew up in-line skating/playing roller rink hockey as well. I loved the Thrashers while working in Atl and was sad to see ‘em go. Root for The Lighting nowadays. Followed the Crimson Tide’s hockey team as well.

    • @bvsemer
      @bvsemer 9 месяцев назад

      Did you also get laid with your cousins and siblings?

  • @rosolenn
    @rosolenn Год назад +49

    No question. A fantastic hockey career. JR should be in the Hall of Fame.

  • @markwinfrey4503
    @markwinfrey4503 Год назад +115

    I say he deserves to be in the hall , based on the list of injuries alone. I mean geez, how many times can you get your face rebuilt.. Definitely a talented player with a lot of grit . I say put him in.

    • @trvman1
      @trvman1 Год назад +1

      Not going to happen in today's WOKE NHL. Old days, he would have been in by now.

    • @davewendt510
      @davewendt510 Год назад

      Hell yes. JR, one of a kind!

    • @boshintang
      @boshintang Год назад

      Yeah, Patrick Roy game him 3rd degree burns.

  • @uncaringbear
    @uncaringbear Год назад +11

    JR played in one the best eras of hockey and his name was in the highlight reels for a reason. Granted, there are other guys from that same period who also deserve to be in the HHOF, but come one, this is JR we're talking about.

  • @mopardale
    @mopardale Год назад

    Love your attitude Dangle,one thing I can't believe no one noticed.Check out the numbers on both game winning goals in game 3 and game 4 and who scored them.# 44 game 3 the amount of goals scored in the game and rieleys number then the same thing in game 4 with kerfoot #15 just check it out.I never checked game 1 and 2 because I never noticed it until game 3 and 4.Keep up the awesome work Steve.

  • @doc-vg9lq
    @doc-vg9lq 8 месяцев назад +2

    he was so good in Sega Hockey. loved checking with him.

  • @Charlie-qe6lv
    @Charlie-qe6lv Год назад +10

    Roenick IS my favorite all-time Blackhawk, who gave his heart and soul out there. HOF for sure.

  • @mulletoutdooradventures6286
    @mulletoutdooradventures6286 Год назад +72

    His numbers speak for themselves. He was insane. I loved his play here in Philly. It was a good time and he is full throttle 247

    • @jmarx3943
      @jmarx3943 Год назад +5

      I'll never forget his OT goal in game 6 in Toronto 2004. I'm glad I got to see him wear the orange and black.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Год назад +1

      Okay, here's some numbers. In his peak years, he finished 12th, 7th, 15th and 6th in points. Very good, but not really among the true elite of the league. He had three 100-point seasons at a time where 100-point seasons were still pretty common.
      He never won an individual award, or even finished higher than 5th in the voting for one. He never finisher higher than 4th in All-Star Team voting at centre. His team never won the Stanley Cup.
      None of this screams "Hall-of-Famer". So the answer as to why he's not in the Hall of Fame is most likely just "his career wasn't quite good enough."

    • @mulletoutdooradventures6286
      @mulletoutdooradventures6286 Год назад +1

      @@puckerings look at the other centers of that time. So 4th in a league and the rest are pretty great. Gretzky, Mario, Sakic, Lindros. The fact that he was top 10 in that era is impressive. Madano, Amonte,Oates, Jagr, I could go forever here. I agree that his numbers are borderline shoe in but everything else he did and who he was despite the negative has put way worse players in. Am I wrong? The competition and game were different then as well. Players had balls unlike today's ballet bs

    • @TheGaara802
      @TheGaara802 Год назад +1

      ​@@mulletoutdooradventures6286 okay you was making good points until you started bitching about today's players. Why can't sports fans just state their points without bitching about a certain era.

    • @mulletoutdooradventures6286
      @mulletoutdooradventures6286 Год назад +1

      @@TheGaara802 easily because it's true. The game was different. It just was. The enforcers are gone, at least real ones. Players were absolutely different. I was always coached take the body. Always. Lay your shoulder into them and put them there through the boards. Sure there are still some big hits but you get fined 😂. Jeremy not only rumbled but also put up massive numbers for those penalties. Who in NHL right now is that? Last decade? I'll wait

  • @dougtieman2877
    @dougtieman2877 Год назад +20

    Simply put, absolutely. I'd trade ten cups for a couple guys with the heart, drive, and determination he had. His numbers are a no-brainer. The HoF committee needs to dry up, toughen its sensitivity, and induct this man already.

  • @EstonianBerserker
    @EstonianBerserker Год назад +1

    As a kid from the 90’s, its absolutely bonkers that Roenick & Mogilny is not in the HOF

  • @DrSneakers
    @DrSneakers Год назад +5

    Awesome video! Any chance you could do Pelle Lindbergh?

  • @stevemorrill5583
    @stevemorrill5583 Год назад +34

    Totally deserving of HOF induction. Whether you liked him or not, he brought grit and unbelievable skill every time he hit the ice.

  • @Speeddemon3
    @Speeddemon3 Год назад +26

    I miss him, I've always been a Leafs fan but Roenick was an old school player that added character to the game!

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      We’ll said …. Thx! 🙏

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 Год назад +1

      He hurt the Leafs a few times. The Leafs could have used him for sure.

  • @jamaljennings5734
    @jamaljennings5734 Год назад +12

    Roenick should be in the Hall of Fame, but I think (and this my opinion) there’s a lot of players during his era that you could also argue that should be in, so I hope he gets in soon, but so do many others.

  • @lionelsimon6656
    @lionelsimon6656 Год назад +2

    I’m a Blackhawks fan and JR was My favorite player as a kid, I got his posters in my room and I remember playing with him, goulet, larmer, smith and chelios on nhl93.
    That is the reason why I wore number 27 when I was playing. What a player, he was complete and play with a lot of energy, not the biggest guy on the ice but never refuse the fight.
    The fact that he didn’t win the cup in 20 years of career show how it’s difficult to win the Stanley cup. As one of the best American born player, he diverses to be in the hall of fame.

  • @bw6078
    @bw6078 Год назад +11

    Another fantastic hockey story. No other sport overall has the stories that playing hockey can tell. Fantastic rendition.

  • @GUISNIP
    @GUISNIP Год назад +32

    JR is definitely HHOF material. I wish the current game included more players of his type; highly skilled and tough as nails. My kind of hockey player!

    • @robintaylor-mockingeemill8223
      @robintaylor-mockingeemill8223 Год назад

      They must look more at cup wins than anything else . Even with 1 cup , worlds gold and Olympic gold some don't get in .

    • @cailou32
      @cailou32 Год назад +1

      Have you heard of the Tkachuk brothers?

  • @mgdubya27
    @mgdubya27 Год назад +15

    He was my favorite player growing up. He always played with an edge and was exciting to watch. He is deserving of his place in the hall.

    • @pmccoy8924
      @pmccoy8924 Год назад +1

      I watched in his era and you're correct on all fronts. The game now is a lot faster. That being said, these guys were absolute warriors. Hits today that would be suspensions were run of the mill. Incredible.

  • @Roenick272
    @Roenick272 Год назад +2

    Since Nhl hockey 92. Only playing with the blackhawks! My uncle took the red wings...Roenick vs Yzerman 😂. I loved it.

  • @citizenmope605
    @citizenmope605 Год назад +7

    This was a very well put together video. Based on stats and accolades alone, Roenick should definitely be in the hall of fame.

  • @theodorebelmont7922
    @theodorebelmont7922 Год назад +7

    JR should be in the Hall of Fame. 1 of the greatest American players ever and also helps alot in promoting the game with his personality

  • @miles7074
    @miles7074 Год назад +6

    Great to hear Pat Foley announcing some highlights while in Chicago. As always, great job Pro Hockey Alumni.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      Thx very much … I too really enjoy listening to Pat Foley and the excitement of Chicago Stadium! 🔥

  • @ritchfolmer9798
    @ritchfolmer9798 Год назад +6

    Players should be inducted in to the Hall of Fame based on what they did on the ice. The intensity and valour that Roenick played with should be enough to get him in. Theo Fleury is in the same boat. A lot of his comments and actions were in the heat of the moment. He was a big time clutch player. 110% in the HOF in my opinion!

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +1

      "Intensity and valour" -- appropriate and accurate descriptions of JR. ThX!

  • @Antonio_M_Walker14
    @Antonio_M_Walker14 6 месяцев назад +3

    This year, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame. JR was my favorite hockey player who never won a Stanley Cup.

  • @nathanpetronzio6919
    @nathanpetronzio6919 Год назад +1

    I was at JR night in Chicago.. a few years after his retirement. When they retired his number.
    Chelly was there with him.. and they played all his highlights with Pearl Jam Jeremy blasting…
    Amazing night

  • @bluewaveshows4u
    @bluewaveshows4u Год назад +19

    I am a hard core Toronto Maple Leaf fan but i've always respected the skill set and battling spirit of Jeremy Roenick! Without a doubt, he should be in the Hall of Fame!

    • @JackyJames1
      @JackyJames1 Год назад +1

      Enjoy your 1rst round playoff games 😂😂 all you gonna get 😂😂😂

    • @SeptemberChild1835
      @SeptemberChild1835 Год назад

      Yes, Roenick should be in the Hall of Fame!! As a janitor!! LOL. 😃

  • @MichaelHenkleC
    @MichaelHenkleC Год назад +37

    Roenick got me into Hockey, the Blackhawks were terrible, and this guy came out of nowhere and made the franchise competitive again. In Roenick's prime, you always felt he would find a way to win the game for you. You didn't know how, but he would make it happen, even if he had to do it short-handed and in overtime. This guy was a beast. I really hope that JR makes the HOF.

    • @jamesd242
      @jamesd242 Год назад +1

      they werent terrible, Hawks could never get past the Oilers before JR

    • @johnkelly8416
      @johnkelly8416 Год назад

      @@jamesd242you are correct in that.. Back I the mid 80s the Stadium was jumping every night. And then Gretzky and company met them in the playoffs and their done..

  • @2K9s
    @2K9s Год назад +19

    Yes, he’s a HOF player. Roenick was a generational player that possessed all the tools necessary for success.
    JR is the nicest, most generous person you’ll ever meet today. Sometimes fame and success can be difficult but the real person’s humble nature is what matters… wish more people understood that.

  • @munkustrap2
    @munkustrap2 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was lucky enough to see J.R play while at Thayer Academy. My ex brother-in-law played high school hockey & the 2 teams played against each other. It's always nice seeing talented players start out.

  • @scottg3736
    @scottg3736 9 месяцев назад +1

    JR was one of the most talented, and toughest players I’d ever watched. To me he deserves to be in the hall of fame. Without a doubt. He breathed life into the NHL.

  • @DanielH874
    @DanielH874 Год назад +7

    The favoritism of the induction committee sickens me. There are at least a handful of players that should be obvious entrants but appear to be getting ignored due to petty personal differences and favoritism.

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy 9 месяцев назад

      There definitely is that human element to it, which is inherent in pretty much all selection committees like this. I didn't like Roenick in the 90s, celebrated the hit that Darien Hatcher put on him, and have really modified my opinion quite a bit since then. He had his beefs with opponents (who doesn't/didn't?), laid hits that could be called dirty sometimes, but always took it like a man when they gave it back to him. I've seen Roenick take a hit before where his jaw was broken and as he's skating off the ice, he's literally reaching into his mouth and pushing horridly loosened teeth back into place and only going out of the game after the team doctor tells him he's no longer medically cleared to play and the coach is directly ordering him to go to the hospital. (They might show this in this video, I honestly haven't watched it all yet.) 99% of us would've been a screaming fetal ball on the ice and would've been taken out by ambulance, JR walked out of there like it wasn't much of anything. That is toughness that you have to admire whether you're a fan of him or not.
      What I don't like is how often a Hall of Fame pick is chosen or declined based on PR reasons. I thought his comments toward the fans during strike years were pretty ugly, I think him saying that the fans are just jealous of him struck a bad chord and came back to him during HOF selection. I viewed it as whiny that in 2006 he said that the USA hockey team had blackballed him. He had significant injuries and had been in a slump the last few years, I don't see how that is the fault of USA hockey. Still, I think his performance in the late 80s and through the 90s absolutely qualifies him to be in the HOF, as well as scoring 500 goals in his career, which is the gold standard of a hockey career. I don't think it's right to hold post-career PR things against him for HOF selection. For what he did as a player, hell yes he should be in the HOF, same as Pete Rose for what he did as a player.
      Pete Rose is another one who just got deluged by media that loved to portray him as some Jekyll & Hyde character, the media was downright evil the way they poisoned everything about the guy. Rose gambled but every single gambling receipt that he's ever generated has been scrutinized by federal officials and media. He never threw games or point-shaved to benefit his gambling. He never even gambled on his own team (to win or lose). For whatever he did, he's paid the price 50 times over in the last 30 years and should be in the baseball HOF for what he did as a PLAYER. I look at Jeremy Roenick like that, too. Hall of Fame selection committees are WAY too PR-driven and tend to only look at the negative.

  • @Storam3
    @Storam3 Год назад +12

    After so many concussions USA Hockey knows how this effected his brain, his angry outbursts and tell it like he sees it. Jeremy Roenick the by product of what to NHL players turned into. Put that into consideration. Nobody would whole heartedly appreciate the sacrifice endured by Jeremy then Jeremy himself. Put him on the podium at HOF and see the tears fly.

  • @Classicrocker6119
    @Classicrocker6119 Год назад +6

    Another very well done segment! I’m kind of on the fence when it comes to whether Roenick belongs in the Hall of Fame. It’s quite possible the selection committee may have made JR an example of who they feel doesn’t embody or meet the standards of who is chosen. Locally here in Calgary former Flame Theoren Fleury could also fit into the same category. I would wholeheartedly suggest you do a future documentary on Theo. Thanks again!

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      Awesome 😎… great idea! Thanks again.

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 Год назад +1

      Fleury's crazy views are not helping. Though I try to also remember the traumatic youth he experienced. Considering that and his small stature he put together an excellent career.

    • @markserour9115
      @markserour9115 Год назад +3

      On the fence. . .WTF? You must sit on the HoF committee.

  • @gregorymotta6628
    @gregorymotta6628 6 месяцев назад +2

    513 career goals !!! 9 time all star !!! 56 career playoff goals !!! Absolutely and unequivocally should be in the HOF. I was hoping Bruins would snag him in 88 draft. Born in Boston, man he would have been the ultimate Bruin.

  • @huntingsynth
    @huntingsynth Год назад +4

    Criminal that he is not in the HOF…I had the pleasure to practice with him at the NJ Rockets when he played for the Bantam National Championship team as did my brother…I was on the Rockets Midget team (but helped out Bantam team) and he and I would play as forwards on the penalty kill squad vs the power play squad…lets just say we scored more a nan down than they did…he was then and in the NHL was noticeably faster than everybody else…his competitiveness and consistent high performance is top notch

  • @johnparsons1573
    @johnparsons1573 Год назад +12

    Absolutely he should be there. He was a game changer

  • @bigsteed007
    @bigsteed007 Год назад +4

    As a die hard Hawks fan and I love JR, I’m also a stickler when it comes to the HOF. JR was definitely an exciting player and had some fantastic seasons but I think there has to be some real concrete years when talking about putting someone in the HOF and to the best of my knowledge and not mentioned in this very well done video, JR never won any individual hardware or cups. His 96 World Cup, Olympic silver medal and 500+ NHL goals are not enough for the HOF in my opinion but everything else he was to the game and the fans definitely put him in the conversation. He could be waiting a while if it happens and I think it’s understandable.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      Good thoughts … comprehensive and detailed .. thx!

    • @NormanHouse-f6c
      @NormanHouse-f6c Год назад +1

      Agree with this...he had four elite seasons but as you mentioned, no individual or major team awards and no 1st or 2nd team all star selections. Only broke 80 points in those four seasons, too. 90/91 - 93/94

  • @RIUUI007
    @RIUUI007 Год назад +10

    In all honesty some of his numbers are incredible and should give him access to the HoF.
    Regular season + playoffs he had:
    +/- +174
    104 game winning goals !
    101 times scored the first goal of the game
    9 overtime goals
    30 shorthanded goals
    20 shorthanded assists
    201 powerplay goals
    268 powerplay assists
    1,338 total points
    But hey, JR made $56,563,571 from his playing career so HoF or not the man did a damn good job.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +2

      Mercy! .., superior facts and knowledge … great contribution! 💪

    • @RIUUI007
      @RIUUI007 Год назад

      @BDH BDH Yeah, Ovechkin became #1 this season on the all-time list of most times having scored the first goal of the game and I didn't see the major networks or the NHL mention it.
      Regular season all-time:
      1. Ovechkin 140
      2. Jagr 135
      3. Brett Hull 131
      4. Gordie Howe 127
      5. Teemu Selanne 119

    • @evanleibinger1913
      @evanleibinger1913 Год назад

      +/- is one of the best stats in hockey. First goal of the game is completely irrelevant.

    • @RIUUI007
      @RIUUI007 Год назад

      @@evanleibinger1913 First goal of the game is an official stat counted by the NHL and is prominently featured on their players miscellaneous stats page.

  • @thedopest
    @thedopest Год назад +5

    When we were kids in the 90s we would play ice and roller hockey and we emulated every move Jeremy Roenick did. Including the cross checking. Hockey helped a few of my baby teeth come out.

  • @woodnbikes
    @woodnbikes Год назад +29

    By far one of the most , if not the most, complete player in NHL history. Its a crime he's not in the HOF!

  • @piccolomaster
    @piccolomaster Год назад +9

    Jeremy Roenick deserves to be in the Hockey Hall of fame for sure!!!

  • @jeffspicoli7619
    @jeffspicoli7619 Год назад +25

    As a Blues fan, I hated the guy but damn did I love his game. Tough as nails and always clutch. YES. He deserves to be in the NHL hof.

    • @BobbyBoucher228
      @BobbyBoucher228 Год назад +1

      Blues fan here and I’d have to agree, but add that while I couldn’t stand Roenick or Steve Yzerman, in hindsight and with the Blues now having a Cup I can say I respect both of them and their game. Plus without Stevie Y and JR the Blues rivalries of the 90’s wouldn’t have been all that good without an adversary to despise.

  • @Rock19621962
    @Rock19621962 Год назад +14

    Should be in Hall of Fame. No Question.Tough player, loves the fans, plenty of skill.

  • @saber26ful
    @saber26ful Год назад +4

    As a Sharks fan, I will never forgot his two-goal game 7 performance against the Flames. I’ll also never forget him for having the chutzpah to call out Patrick Marleau for being gutless.

  • @cbmathews0440
    @cbmathews0440 Год назад +6

    Got to meet this man when I was 13 at a fan event at a mall in Arizona. He was cool and nice af. My dad joked with him how we would love to see him on our team the Sharks and sure as shit we did. Man’s an American hockey legend as far as I’m concerned!

  • @doughoback5226
    @doughoback5226 Год назад +17

    As a Blues fan I could not stand the SOB but there is no doubt in my mind that the man is a Hall of Famer.

  • @trevorlambert4226
    @trevorlambert4226 Год назад +7

    It's crazy that there was a time when a shoulder into someone's face was considered a "great" and "clean" hit.

    • @evanleibinger1913
      @evanleibinger1913 Год назад

      Hockey purest still consider it a great hit. It looks dirty to you because of the head contact, but he didn’t target the head at all. Would have been shoulder to shoulder if the guys head wasn’t down so how can you call it dirty on his part when the head contact wasn’t his fault? Or do you just want hitting outta the game period?

  • @mikeyg6631
    @mikeyg6631 Год назад +3

    No joke my most favorite player of all time. He can score assist and last but not least he can dance and sing. Very entertaining to watch him play. He can also brake the glass in NHL 93 and Steve Smith lol!

  • @robertbishop5357
    @robertbishop5357 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think he should be considered for the HHOF because of not just his on ice performance, but also how he reached out to and selflessly helped every community he was a part of.

  • @nashclapp1864
    @nashclapp1864 Год назад +2

    The hall doesn't deserve Jeremy Roenick! I met him briefly in Niagara Falls at the Hilton... a real man!!

  • @sergiocalcio9481
    @sergiocalcio9481 9 месяцев назад +2

    He scored 1216 pts in 1,363 games ( 513 G 703 A ) during one of the roughest and most physical eras of Hockey while not having an imposing physique yet able to dish out the play as if he had one . He belongs there . Plain and put.

  • @skifusya2814
    @skifusya2814 Год назад +8

    Very interesting video. Unfortunately, it as much or more of a hall of congeniality as a hall of fame. Based on his accomplishments, there's no question that Roenick belongs.

  • @drbob512
    @drbob512 Год назад +6

    Rownick should definitely be in the HoF. Ty Cobb was in baseball. Both were outstanding players who seemed dirty sometimes & were not very liked but what a competitor Roenick was plus one of the very toughest guys as he had more broken facial & body bones than anyone I know of. He was awful for my Kings but I was in awe of him when he played for the Hawks. Also he had so many game-winning gials & moments. Vote him in already!

    • @Realwaltersobchak
      @Realwaltersobchak Год назад +2

      Don’t compare a mid tier player to a great like Cobb..

    • @paulg6274
      @paulg6274 Год назад

      haha ya but cobb was the best hitter of his era. Roenick was a 10-15th in league scoring guy in his prime

  • @hockeyeverything4339
    @hockeyeverything4339 Год назад +11

    I couldnt hear this video. Stanley Cup rings were in my ears....

  • @joedog3865
    @joedog3865 Год назад +1

    The older players In all leagues controll this it's horrible In baseball they need to get rid of the hall of fames and do a fan based hall of fame so players can't be kept out do to the preference of who runs the hall of fame In each sport

  • @doomslayerdave
    @doomslayerdave Год назад +1

    For the American youth hockey players of the 1990s you were either a good little boy that idolized Mike Modano or you were a cool as hell bad boy that wanted to be Jeremy Roenick. That was it.

  • @toddbaglione9260
    @toddbaglione9260 Год назад +33

    GREAT HOCKEY PLAYER!! WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TEAM FULL OF HIM!!

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 Год назад +6

    Went to one college class and said screw it I'm going to the NHL😂

  • @bloodfurypk666
    @bloodfurypk666 Месяц назад +1

    always have great video, i miss this era of hockey

  • @JohnDoeDoeJohn69
    @JohnDoeDoeJohn69 9 месяцев назад +1

    That rare breed of everything: talent, clutch, grit, dirty, boisterous, fan favorite. I’m sure they didn’t love it, but the fact he was always doing a lot with Madono & Amonte, then turning around and almost ending their careers, was pretty legendary

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater Год назад +3

    So Fed up that all sports can deny great players a HOF spot just because they don't like them as a person... it's what happened on the ice, not off it!

  • @yesnomaybe1220
    @yesnomaybe1220 Год назад +9

    He is one of those guys you hated when he played cause he was so good against your team. Tough as nails, great competitor. HOF worthy

  • @Kmoten10
    @Kmoten10 Год назад +4

    Keeping him out only diminishes the credibility of the the hockey hall of fame and especially the voters.

  • @samiam1210
    @samiam1210 6 месяцев назад +2

    Glad Roenick got in. Great video

  • @applepieclub5012
    @applepieclub5012 Год назад +1

    I remember in first year university, I met and became friends with a fellow Leafs fan.
    One day in class, we decided to troll Roenick through Twitter. Nothing bad, just dumb stuff like “you suck, etc, etc”
    To our surprise, he actually responded and it’s not so much what he said, but how he said it, that completely changed my opinion of him.
    Simply put, he responded with maturity and kindness when he very easily could’ve told us to take a hike. This made me buy his book and my opinion of him completely shifted, positively.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      this is a great recollection that is very much appreciated. Thanks for sharing.

  • @joeschmo2693
    @joeschmo2693 Год назад +5

    Lifelong Blues fan, no love for JR. Had him in my cab once. Old STL arena on Oakland to the Adam's Mark downtown, $5 tip between him and Chelios. I got bigger tips from White Castle employees. What a POS...goddamn right he should be in the HOF.

  • @leftsidem5030
    @leftsidem5030 Год назад +3

    That ship left the port ages ago....he is done.

  • @celluloidtherapy5003
    @celluloidtherapy5003 Год назад +5

    What gets me, is just how cool those old sweaters were…sometimes, change isn’t always better. I’ve always liked Jeremy, and thought his commentary was on-point, and thought he got railroaded to a certain extent.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад

      Interesting how great those 6-team sweaters have held up over time. Can't be improved.

  • @dennisschultz9180
    @dennisschultz9180 Год назад +1

    J.R not being in the Hall of Fame is the same reason we do not have the best of us leading our counties, to thin of skin and people rather live a lie than hear truth.

  • @OakLawnSpeedShop
    @OakLawnSpeedShop Год назад +2

    Born and bred on the south side of Chicago. JR was the first athlete to make me realize I was never going to be a superstar athlete as I am almost 2 years older than Roenick. I enjoyed watching him and Amonte. Another Blackhawk that left to become a superstar. The Chicago Blackhawks always have been the NHL superstar farm team.

  • @brettc660
    @brettc660 Год назад +5

    Jeremy Roenick not being in the hockey HOF is surprising - he was a HOF player

  • @TheSmith133
    @TheSmith133 Год назад +3

    No, Jeremy Roenick does not belong in the NHL Hall of Fame. Being tough, or highly skilled, is one thing. Being a decent human being is something else altogether. Character matters in hockey. While it can be defined, or understood, in a variety of ways, it always implies qualities of a person that deserve our respect and admiration, not just the power to do things. By the way he conducted himself during his career, both on and off the ice, it should be obvious that Roenick didn’t display those qualities when it mattered the most.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +1

      Interesting and thoughtful response … thanks!

    • @ManishMims
      @ManishMims Год назад

      And who is the arbiter of who a good person is you? Or a bunch of liberal pansies in the media? This is the problem with liberals they are all narcissists who love to purity test other people. Just watch the game and stfu.

  • @GooBanana
    @GooBanana Год назад +3

    I have no problem with what he said. While unprofessional, he just said what every guy was thinking about Kathryn Tappen.

  • @30AndHatingIt
    @30AndHatingIt Год назад +2

    Upon leaving Philly, “They’re going to such a good team this year, it hurts that I won’t be a part of it.”
    Buddy, they got STEAMROLLED by the greatest Sabres team to ever hit the ice. You’re lucky you weren’t there, otherwise that might have been you KO’ed and sucking wind at center ice instead of Umberger.

  • @Wra7hofAchilles
    @Wra7hofAchilles Год назад +1

    I got a chance to meet him when I was a kid. He was at a mall out in the burbs of Chicago, (now defunct mall) signing autographs and meeting fans at the Footlocker. I was I think 10 at the time.
    I'll never forget being in line and the mall officially closing and being we were almost at the end of it thinking I wasn't going to be able to see JR. As a little kid that gets at you after you've been hyping it up all day.
    Roenick made a point that he wasn't leaving until he saw everyone who came out to see him and it was well past the mall's closure when we finally came up to the table he was at and he was all smiles. Took pictures, signed my sister's jersey, signed my hockey stick and made you feel amazing. He could've easily just called it a day and left. But he didn't.
    I'll never forget that smile and that point to make the fan experience the best. I hope he gets to see his induction into the HoF but I hope he knows to the fans, he's already there and will be forever.

    • @ProHockeyAlumni
      @ProHockeyAlumni  Год назад +1

      Unbelievable comment … great story that I enjoyed reading .. thanks for sharing 🙏 awesome 👏

  • @yinzer
    @yinzer Год назад +4

    What? Really? As a Penguins fan who is just a casual "NHL" fan, it shocks me that he's not a hall of famer. He was dominant as I recall.

  • @ericliu8488
    @ericliu8488 Год назад +9

    This was an amazing career synopsis, I've always wondered why the Hockey Hall of Fame keeps on ignoring Roenick despite very Hall worthy numbers.

  • @cbonez2909
    @cbonez2909 Год назад +10

    Absolutely. As a devil fan he was an outside hero to me. The man was a monster. He was hitting and checking like a power forward. All that with the speed and shot of a god for the time. He was a power center for the times. He should be in the hall of Fame.

  • @Thejoeb
    @Thejoeb Год назад +2

    shameful when a mans political beliefs exclude him from a accolade he earned through years of hard work that has nothing to do with his political beliefs.

  • @takatukka666
    @takatukka666 Год назад +1

    Jeremy Roenick & Davor Šuker, my two all-time favourite players.

  • @Atrac1059
    @Atrac1059 Год назад +3

    He is the most deserving of a HOF spot that currently isn’t in it. JR had two tendencies that the NHL doesn’t like. Speaking his mind, and repeating conversations that other NHL people didn’t want heard.