@@Gixsir Accurate history is silly and meaningless? What is the point in saying it in the video if it is so meaningless that it could be not corrected? How about we say Edmonton lost in 5 this year in a video about stick curves? Just because it is not the focus of the video does not mean a person is a "Karen" for stating facts
@meshachwilliams3697 how??? Look at his fighting videos here on RUclips, not only did he cheap shot players but he was a dirty fighter basically he was piece of 💩
@@RayFinkle05 do you remember Gilmour skating up to McSorley and head butting him in the chin, with his helmut? Priceless. Yeah, that was '93. Good hockey!!
Actually he was. He told the Maple Leafs bench earlier that game that if they are going to take one more run at Gretzky, Gilmour's going to get it. On a side note, they stopped trying to hurt Gretzky for the rest of the series, so apparently it worked.
Why is nobody talking about Brashears helmet? When he landed on ice, the helmet was off. If he had used the helmet strap as it is created for, he wouldn´t been injured. Helmet is used to protect the head, but players, even today don´t tighten the strap.
The strap is there for one reason, should be a penalty at least for kids who don't wear it correctly. I cracked 3 helmets racing dirt bikes, then was a goalie for 15 years. Now I'm paying for all those concussions, trigeminal neuralgia, cluster headaches, Tinnitus etc. I admired Gretzky but not that stupid Jofa helmet. This is all a big joke to some people.
@@dicksonfranssen minor hockey does not allow players to wear their chin straps like this. there is a penalty if they dont wear it correctly and the refs tells them to tighten the strap.
For some reason, people always gloss over that part of the story. Look at 4:35 and that is a big part of the reason why he was injured. On one of the replay angles, you’ll see his bare head hit the ice because the helmet has come off.
All I know is that I’ve met quite a few professional hockey players in situations where it was the time and the place to make conversation. Marty McSorley was the most affable of any of them. Made time to talk hockey with me and my friends, bought us a round of drinks and even talked about the Brashear incident and was very candid about it. I have a very good bullshit detector and none of it was an act. Very nice man and I’ll never say a bad word about him.
Uhm right now 45 people are actually defending Marty mcsorleys criminal offence on the ice.....not even a hockey play but indeed a criminal offence......my guess is none of you guys are true hockey fans and very few of you even play ice hockey.....what does brashears off ice actions have to do with mcsorleys on ice criminal offence
"It's alleged he assaulted a man after the man had told his wife to leave the weight room because she had her baby with her," Vancouver police spokeswoman Anne Drennan said. "The victim did not receive any serious injuries and there were no punches thrown." At least brashear didn't swing a stick at his head.
They should’ve thrown brash out of the game for running the goalie and this wouldn’t happen same with Steve Moore if he was kicked out and suspended for that vicious hit on naslund things would have been different it’s boils down to the refs and the league not doing enough to de escalate situations
Mcsorley took it too far, but Brashear injuring the Bruins goalie and then mocking the bemch earned him some serious payback. Never go after a goalie! When Marty wanted to fight and Brashear chickened out, it showed who the true coward was... Then Marty should have just kept getting in Donalds face until the cowards dropped his gloves.
I thought playing hockey was about scoring goals.....who actually suits up for an NHL game to fight. these are NHL players not fighters....i don't think nhl player tough guys always want to fight. even fighters don't always want to fight...... the coaches have to take responsibility too. but then again hockey is a weird game because it encourages fighting.... when a game is lost already there is no need to send or have two fighters out on the ice at the same time... i love hockey but always hated the fighting in it.....its not like they're trained fighters anyways.. the fighting looks sloppy..,,. if i want to watch fighting i'll rather watch ufc or boxing where the fighters are actually trained and skilled at what they do....... two guys fighting on skates...wearing hockey equipment, c'mon....you'd rather watch that than them actually tried to score on each other.....
When I think of Mcsorley, I think of his war with Probert. Best fight I've ever seen. They fought for 3 minutes, and Marty said no when the refs tried to come in early. The Gilmour hit and the ensuing fight was also awesome. Let's not forget he was also on the Oilers for part of the dynasty.
Brashear was a thug too to say the least. McSorley actually had SOME skills while Brashear had none at all. Hockey has not become "better" or "safer". It's pretty boring now, with no intensity at all.
Trouba did this same thing earlier this season and the NHL made an excuse for it. Had Brashear worn his helmet correctly he’s probably not out 20 games and McSorley probably doesn’t get suspended for as long as he was.
I don't disagree about the helmet but come on? That's swing was never going for his shoulder. He was being a bitch . Kept loosing to Brash and couldn't handle it.
Marty mcsorley should have been arrested ..handcuffed..finger printed and put in a holding cell until he was bailed out immediately..... This was a criminal act..... donald brashear may have been a dirty player but did nothing criminal... He's just your average enforcer but probably better and stronger than the average enforcer....he like other enforcers are there for their dirty play and Fighting ability not to be choir boys we all know this.... Hitting a guy in the head with your hockey stick is not a hockey play.. that's assault with a deadly weapon.... That's criminal and worthy of jail time... Let's not try to deflect by talking about brashear... Furthermore brashear was not obligated to accept a fight with mcsorley......
The Bruins Dave Forbes attack on Henry Boucha was way worse. He never regained much vision in his right eye and his career ended because of the attack.
I'm not saying what Mcsorley did wasn't bad but nobody ever mentions The Rocket who broke his stick over a player's back and than punched a linesman. No we name a trophy after him??
That incident doesn't even rank compared to what McSorely did here... Steve Moore was injured by the dog pile that developed afterwards. Very different circumstances. People always bring this incident up in videos like this. I didn't like what Bert did but people have blown it out of proportion. Meanwhile Steve Moore was and still is a coward.
@@Jersey209 Yes Bert took it too far. I didn't like what he did but it snowballed in a way that was out of his control. It was a situation that warranted a suspension but not the charges and litigation that followed. Moore goes on TV and talk shows every 5 years and does his whole woe is me spiel about how he deserves more money. They say if you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes and that is what Moore did on the ice. He played like a goon too and he could have ended someone else's career just as easily. Live by the sword and die by the sword. So tired of Moore playing the victim. He's not even paralyzed like everyone thinks that he is.
@@Adam202 I do agree that Moore dragged the whole thing out WAAAAY too long after the incident. Bertuzzi knew he f’d up and seemed genuinely remorseful
That conditional discharge was a joke. He should have been charged and have a record. “I was disappointed in him as a hickey person?” After the fact? McSorely was an unrepentant goon. PS I love that you called him the consummate goon and have subscribed. He was exactly that.
People fail to mention the reason McSorley was losing his mind was because Brashear ran the goalie. Thanks for including that part! Brashear would rather taunt the bench after he sent the goalie off on a strecher then fight Marty again. But the coaches are just as much to blame. Canucks send the goon out with 30 seconds left , So of course Boston has to send out McSorley . Had Brashear just fought him again it never would have happened. And besides all that, he didnt even slash him that hard, I been double handed tomahawked right over the head and I didnt go down. Dave Browns shots to the head of Tomas Sandstrum were way worse .....And he did it twice!!!
It's pretty wild how such reprehensible and unforgivable behavior was essentially tolerated, or at least punished very differently compared to today. I got into hockey in the 90-91 season in my tween years and saw more of the tail end of it but the 90s were still pretty brutal. Essentially anytime Scott Stevens was still playing was still the brutal, intent to injure era.
People often forget that many of these enforcers were also skilled players. Goonery was just part of the game. Despite the NHL’s overall softening, nothing gets the crowd on its feet faster than a good old hockey fight…
@@stevencooke6451 Brashear didn't answer the bell and proceeded to taunt the Bruins bench throughout the game. Who was the coward? Fun fact: Everyone hated Donald Brashear.
Brashear brought this on himself. You can't act the tough guy and try to intimidate the Bruins bench then decline the fight. People swing sticks on occasion he just happened to catch Brashear in the noggin.
It should have not involved the police. A 10 game suspension would probably been fine. McSorley lost his mind for a moment and went over the line as has happened many times in the game. Still, Brashear, no choir boy, was taunting and showing no class at all. And he knew better. He knew the culture and unwritten rules. Hockey, going way back before my day in the 70s, was a violent game. Everyone knew the danger. It was part of the attraction. That feeling before starting was palpable. A total rush, unknown and unwanted by the current generation. Oh, it was good. Competition was fierce. The game policed itself. Skilled players were balanced out by guys less skilled but willing to look past their fear and take on whatever came at them. I was always a small guy (140-145) but never turned down a fight. It always felt good to know that you "showed up". Today, in our risk averse society, the focus on everything is on safety. That's what the people want and I'm an anachronism. I get that. But they took a great game that was almost primal in its attraction and turned it into figure skating with a puck. Yes, the skill level today is better than ever, and no one ever has to worry about defending themselves or their mates. Not saying that it is better or worse; it's just 2 separate sports now. I miss the hockey that was played for the first 80 years or so and am bored by the game of today. Others, dare I say most, do not. Masculinity is being slowly drilled out of boys...it's toxic, violent, scary, or whatever. Or so they say. Today's men believe it's honorable to hide behind an authority figure, even a woman, when facing danger. Old time hockey and its attendant moral structure are no longer valued, not in the sport or in life. And that is a shame.
Wtf are you talking about? 😂😂 it’s assault with a weapon Ya JA. And this was like 20 years ago? Are you drunk? Or was this little BS story just something you’ve been holding onto for a long time?🤦 which of “todays men” are you even referring to, because I PROMISE if you let me whack you with a hockey stick you’re gonna immediately change this whole “ I’m a tough cowboy” shit.😂😂😂
On The Coaches Corner Don Cherry actually defended Marty. He said that he was an ageing veteran and was pretty close to retiring. Donald Brashear was a younger man who won a fight with Marty. Cherry said that out of respect he should have left Marty alone for the rest of the game. Instead he taunted Marty and kept rubbing it in. Marty was a proud veteran who snapped.
McSorley is one of the greatest HeavyWeights in NHL history. We watched Brashear go from not very good with Montreal to also one of the greatest Heavyweights in NHL history. Probably the greatest shoulder/upper body strength the way he could rag-doll some monsters.
You're saying this as if Vancouver hasn't been on the other end of the dirty hits the majority of the time outside of the Bertuzzi-Moore incident? And let's get the facts straight with that. What Bertuzzi did was disgusting, but it's already been proven that Moore has likely lied about most of the situation. The punch wasn't what did the majority of the damage and it's been proven he dove to exaggerate it. It was the players dogpiling him that did it. Also, the medical records they released and the many ones he and his lawyer claims he has but refuses to show publicly have pretty much confirmed that he's lying about the majority of the damage he suffered. He was a trash grinder whose career was almost over and soon retiring so he used this to get lots of money out of Bertuzzi. There's no proof of the majority of his claims and people around him say he's lying about many of them such as his breathing, sleep, and light sensitivity issues or say that he was healed from them a few years later despite his claims of him still dealing with it to this day. He didn't deserve to get anywhere near as much as he did out of Bertuzzi for it and it basically ended a possible HHOF career as a result with him not being able to play his style of game in the league ever again. For that reason, I have no sympathy for him.
I work with a guy that's a year older than McSorley and grew up playing baseball with him till they were teenagers. What he says about him explains a lot about his attitude. He acted like an arrogant selfish clown on their teams. He would cry, literally ball his eyes out, apparently everytime he didnt get to play the position he felt he should be playing. I saw it a lot myself playing higher level sports(not the crying but the parentsruining a kids attitude). He was that kid who's parents tell him he's that best and the strongest at everything until he's an entitled POS for the rest of his life. The guy still hasn't even accepted any blame for this let alone any of the other garbage.
Donald Brashear is an awesome person. I had the chance to be the guy selling video game stuff to him for a lil while. Very soft spoken, very calm, accidentally extremely funny all the time. I remember this one time he had lost or broken his nintendo wii rca cables, and he came to the store under heavy rain, console in hand and asked me those missing wires by pointing at the empty connectors.... of his now soaking wet nintendo wii ;) I have always been curious to know if when he plugged back that console it was still working or not lolll.
Donald Brashear is the grand nephew of Carl Brashear. Carl was the first black Navy Diver in the US Navy and his story is in the movie “Men of Honor” with Robert DeNiro. Sounds like Donald is following Carl’s tradition; there are few black hockey players but that didn’t stop him. “I don’t know why ANYONE would want to be a [hockey player]/Navy diver!” DeNiro’s famous speech
I met Marty after a game in LA in the winter of 2014. We talked about this incident and he stated to me in the most sincere way that he meant to hit Donald in the shoulder to get his attention. I honestly don't think this dude had any intentions to hurt Brasher the way he did. They were both enforcers in a league that glorified them for what they did. His mistake was the pinnacle to why hockey has been pussified since. I think Marty only wanted to fight and not hurt him that way. It's too bad that his legacy had to end up with this black eye because of an honest mistake. Those who know, know.....And Brasher knows it was an honest mistake also.
@@nowitstimetosee18 I'm only going by what the man told me. Mcsorley never jumped on Brashear after he hit him in the head with the stick. Bertuzzi jumped on that kids back and beat on him while he was face down. Two very different incidents. You don't have to like what I said, but I believed Marty when he talked about it. If he was truly a jerk he would have just joked about the incident, but he didn't. There was no joking in his voice when he talked about it, only remorse.. He didn't mean to hit him in the head and I believe him.
@@CoreyTourigny its already been proven moore did a dive and that the damage done was because of the players jumping on top. its already been proven he lied about the majority of his health issues and that they were resolved a couple of years after the incident so he could get more money from bertuzzi. mcsorley could have killed brashear. i dont care what his intentions were.
It was always humorous to hear McSorely name drop whenever he'd get himself in trouble. Then you'd hear Gretzky, Coffey, Messier repeat the same defenses of him word for word.
Loved MsSorley, hated brashear. I was too young to remember them, but all the old school games on RUclips, combined with highlights are great, and it's clear which player is the one you'd want on your team... McSorley all the way.
I remember this game well as a fan in Vancouver. I didn’t think it then and I don’t think now that the slash was the dirtiest thing I ever saw. It’s not even close. Dirty? Sure. Suspendible? Naturally. It was pretty surprising to me that Brashear would be seriously injured from the slash. I imagine it had more to do with him falling and hitting the back of his head on the ice, with his loose helmet flying off. The suspension was extreme mostly because the optics were so bad, and the video got so much attention - and it embarrassed the NHL enough that they chose an extreme response to protect their brand. The attention in Vancouver also led police to lay charges. Let’s be clear. If injuring a player was to be prosecuted as a rule, the docket would be full hockey players at all levels. This case has very strong parallels to the Bertuzzi incident. In that case, a player who was expected to fight due to giving a concussion to the Canucks captain in a previous game refused to do so repeatedly - and exposed himself to the sort of action that fighting is supposed to replace . Moore was put on the ice by his coach just before the end of game specifically to face the music lest the Canucks take their anger out on the teams star players. It was expected of Moore to fight and he wouldn’t. In both cases, if you asked NHL players of the day off the record , they would not condemn either player for their actions. The reason being that they or their teammates could have also found themselves in this predicament. A player will be held accountable one way or another, and bad things happen when you refuse to be accountable. That’s a reality that many casual fans and the wider public doesn’t understand. These unofficial codes about fighting are about the players self regulating fighting on their own terms and for their protection. Marty was part of the old school tough guy that followed the code about being an enforcer and fighting. In Brashear’s position, it was absolutely expected that you would answer the bell if you are taunting your opponent. The players know it and generally accepted it. Right or wrong, Brashear opted to do the very things he knew would infuriate McSorely and his refusal to answer the bell - just as Steve Moore did in his incident. Had they stuck to the accepted players norms, each would have been far better off. That fact is often lost on fans. That’s certainly how the NHL players would see it and the outside observers opinions don’t matter much if we are being honest. They don’t have to suffer the consequences of what happens when unofficial codes on fighting are ignored and things devolve into widespread mercenary actions of loose cannons. That’s what the codes are designed to prevent. People outside of hockey will say their is just no place for such violence in sports and will condemn anything that is violent. They are re entitled to their opinion but they don’t have to live with the unintended consequences of “fixing” the problem. As such, the players will simply ignore them.
Safer game?? Show me the stats that add up to it being "safer". The slew foots and chicken wing hits to the head etc etc.. There are still targeted injuries. Lots...
Safer game? BS. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster. My Bro said watch Tom Wilson he injures people. I watched just 5 mins, the guy he injured was out weeks.
If you watch it in slow motion, Marty did go for Donald's shoulder pad. But at the end of the day if you bring your stick up that high you run the risk of something bad happening. In which case it did.
The number of people defending McSorley in this comment section is hilarious. Yes, Brashear was also a POS at times who did bad things off the ice, on the ice, and ran their goalie, but so did McSorley many times off the ice, on the ice, etc. and that still doesn't justify assault with a weapon, even if he meant to hit his shoulders which sounds like an excuse. Also, tell me a single enforcer, grinder, power forward, agitator, etc. who hasn't gone too far, ran the goalie, etc. to get under the opponents skin? Literally all of them have and McSorley has been all bark no bite in other incidents too with refusing to fight others while talking trash. And him refusing to fight him there isn't being cowardly. That's being smart for his team when they need it earlier in the game. It's McSorley's fault for taking the bait. This is like the people debating between Marchand or Burrows being worse all over again and when both of them are equal with their past incidents. Furthermore, for the people who are bringing up that off-ice incident involving Brashear, that was an accusation which never went anywhere. There was a verbal argument that led to the police showing up. There were no serious injuries on the accuser or punches thrown and he didn't press charges. He did get into other incidents off the ice since retirement too and is low on money, but so have many tough guys in that era now. It's what happens when they were used, suffered drug issues, CTE which McSorley gave him more of, etc. and then are discarded. McSorley has gotten into similar off-ice altercations too and hasn't done too well for himself since retirement either. So has the majority of the NHL tough guys including some Hall of Famers. That's the world and if you go outside. He's still respected by many in his 50s playing in the LNAH. He's had issues and incidents, but that isn't him being a terrible person, that's him struggling. He's doing better for himself today. McSorley was a POS and that's all there is to it. Some of you sound like the same people defending Voynov when he was banned lol.
The “code of violence” is not senseless. It evolved out of an extremely fast and dangerous and physical game. The Americanization of hockey has not benefited the game. It is far less physical now and - as a result - less passionate. It’s basically soccer-on-ice.
What about Wayne Maki used Ted Green's head as a pinata in 1969, or when Eddie Shore ended Ace Bailey's career in 1933. This guy mentions Dino Ciccarelli's incident, but leaves those two out?
Its always an issue with Vancouver. Whether it’s the organization, the city or the players. Hell even actor Joshua Jackson got in trouble multiple times at Vancouver games.
Mc Sourley and Bretuzzie are two completely different stories. Bert was trying to stand up for his teammate. What was done to Naslund was on McSourley's level
I remember Brasher playing for the Fredricton Canadians and getting his ass beat by the animal frank billows of the st.johns maple leafs. Toughest guy I ever seen fight and I remember the banner saying welcome to the animals house!!!
McSorely was pure garbage. On every team for which he ever played. Incredible strength and stamina, to be sure. But pure garbage If he’d have been better coached, like say Scott Stevens was to control his goonish tendencies, he could’ve been a helluva player - Almost like Stevens, who himself started off as little more than a goon but was crafted into a top defenseman by playing smarter and letting his notoriety do most of the work for him. McSorely clearly had the skills to become such a player, but his fighting was deemed a more valuable asset to teams like the Oilers, Kings and Rangers. Interestingly enough, ALL of which retained his services to make sure no one ate Gretzky’s lunch at school. And while Brashear will never be mistaken for an altar boy, McSorely’s assault on him was beyond gutless. Right up there with some of the biggest stains in the NHL, along with some of the ones mentioned in the comments.
Donald was actually a pretty big bully and tough player, thought that's why he did that. I don't think he thought it was going to do that kind of damage but I don't think he considered what it could potentially do.
believe me Mcsore was the real deal & he was loved here in LA even after the fat stick incident & I AIN'T TALK'N THE HEAD SHOT FOLKS! In any case what I loved about Big Mac was he never ever backed down & Bra had his number, Mac still was willing after 9 rounds of which he lost more then to anyone else, that's a player! & he scored some big big goals for us always when we needed it so badly every now & then he would come through. Had a beer & a hot dog with him at the Staples Center VIP Stogie with Rogie night he spoke to everyone came by to speak with each & every person that night then he'd go back to a quite far corner & wolf 3 more hotdogs, great guy.
There's a story in my town that Marty was at one of the local bars partying having a good time then shit hit the fan.. the story goes he was drinking a shit ton and did huge lines of blow having a great time(this town has a habit of saying anyone with some kind of importance has a secret cocaine habbit🤔) as the night went on jealousy from a group of wannabee tuff guys that got all pissy from the attention Marty was getting and had the bad idea of trying to fight him. 1vs1 wasn't the idea they had they wanted to jump him so once the beef started Marty had finished it just as quick he had 3 of em piled ontop of each other on the pool table buy slamming 2 of em together and the 3rd getting K.O with a hook and being tossed on the 2 men on the pool table. After he had another guy buy the neck back, peddling begging for marty to lay a beating into him. I don't know how true it is, but he was at the local bar for sure I've bin told, but how true the fight was is unknown. It seems a bit much, but I've seen a lot more craziness in fights from guys that have nowhere near the physical ability that Marty has so I do take this story with a grain of salt but it is one of the 1000s I've herd and read about online with Marty clearing a bar out.
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Friend of mine got stuck in the middle of a high school fight between Probert and Corson. He shit his pants ducked out and got the hell outta the house.
Donald Brashear seems to be a great guy. Not arrogant like Avery or guys like these. I loved him with the Habs when I was young. Certainly more then Mario Temblay back for ppl who met him in person during the Memorial Cup in Laval.
Brashear is being a drama queen. McSorley clearly wanted to fight - Brashear was out there solely to fight. If Brashear didn't want to go, he should have gotten off the ice ......
He spent *FIFTY SIX AND ONE HALF HOURS* in the penalty box. (At least, that's presuming none of those penalties were cut short by giving up a goal.) When you've already spent two entire days in prison for assault, you have to expect something like this happening.
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The Bruins only made the 2nd round in 1998-1999, not the conference finals. Lost to the Sabres in 6.
Was just about to say this. It was Leafs vs Sabres in the East in 99
Hey I know you, love your work
Thanks Karen always count on you to correct someone for something silly and meaningless 🫡
@@Gixsir Accurate history is silly and meaningless? What is the point in saying it in the video if it is so meaningless that it could be not corrected? How about we say Edmonton lost in 5 this year in a video about stick curves? Just because it is not the focus of the video does not mean a person is a "Karen" for stating facts
@@Gixsir you must be fun at parties
I hated it so much when the B's picked up McSorley, but even I was surprised how bad it ended. Brashear was a piece of crap too, though.
How?
Yeah he was.
@@meshachwilliams3697hahaha!
@meshachwilliams3697 how??? Look at his fighting videos here on RUclips, not only did he cheap shot players but he was a dirty fighter basically he was piece of 💩
McSorley was/is awesome and agree donny is scrub pos
2:00 Ha! Burger King jersey. Terrible terrible jersey
Marty wasn't protecting Gretz that night in Toronto '91 when he tried to take Gilmore's head off. This guy was an ass clown.
93 u dummy
It was ‘93.
@@RayFinkle05 do you remember Gilmour skating up to McSorley and head butting him in the chin, with his helmut? Priceless. Yeah, that was '93. Good hockey!!
I agree with you, he's an ass clown, and a psycho.
Actually he was. He told the Maple Leafs bench earlier that game that if they are going to take one more run at Gretzky, Gilmour's going to get it. On a side note, they stopped trying to hurt Gretzky for the rest of the series, so apparently it worked.
A huge example of the principle: Decisions made in blind anger can NOT be taken back!
Why is nobody talking about Brashears helmet? When he landed on ice, the helmet was off. If he had used the helmet strap as it is created for, he wouldn´t been injured. Helmet is used to protect the head, but players, even today don´t tighten the strap.
The strap is there for one reason, should be a penalty at least for kids who don't wear it correctly. I cracked 3 helmets racing dirt bikes, then was a goalie for 15 years. Now I'm paying for all those concussions, trigeminal neuralgia, cluster headaches, Tinnitus etc. I admired Gretzky but not that stupid Jofa helmet. This is all a big joke to some people.
@@dicksonfranssen minor hockey does not allow players to wear their chin straps like this. there is a penalty if they dont wear it correctly and the refs tells them to tighten the strap.
For some reason, people always gloss over that part of the story. Look at 4:35 and that is a big part of the reason why he was injured. On one of the replay angles, you’ll see his bare head hit the ice because the helmet has come off.
@@dicksonfranssen Gretzky and Kevin Lowe wore broomball helmets. Not joking, that's the game they were designed for.
Marty and probert were why i watched alot of hockey in the 90s
and Scott Stevens 🤛
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@@snowyrain5730
Stevens wasn’t much of a fighter
Greatest hitter of all time @@timetowakeup6302
All I know is that I’ve met quite a few professional hockey players in situations where it was the time and the place to make conversation. Marty McSorley was the most affable of any of them. Made time to talk hockey with me and my friends, bought us a round of drinks and even talked about the Brashear incident and was very candid about it. I have a very good bullshit detector and none of it was an act. Very nice man and I’ll never say a bad word about him.
Love you Lois!!!!!
Teddy Green and Wayne Mackie was the worst hockey assault I ever saw. Worse than this!
You were there? My wife was watching TV the night Malarchuk was sliced open. One guy at the game had a heart attack and didn't make it.
WHY ARE WE YELLING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE VIDEO
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
@@flimbs hahahahaha
YOU NEED TO BE LOUD TO GET THE KIDS ATTENTION THESE DAYS!
I KNOW RIGHT?!
because they are assholes
At least Marty didn't assault an innocent civilian in his apartment building.
That was Brashear.
The goon.
Uhm right now 45 people are actually defending Marty mcsorleys criminal offence on the ice.....not even a hockey play but indeed a criminal offence......my guess is none of you guys are true hockey fans and very few of you even play ice hockey.....what does brashears off ice actions have to do with mcsorleys on ice criminal offence
"It's alleged he assaulted a man after the man had told his wife to leave the weight room because she had her baby with her," Vancouver police spokeswoman Anne Drennan said.
"The victim did not receive any serious injuries and there were no punches thrown." At least brashear didn't swing a stick at his head.
@@donovans6472 Waaaaaa
@@donovans6472 finally someone with brains.
@@donovans6472 "criminal offence"...lmao...please.
Why does Brashear's helmet keep coming off? Half the footage his helmet is off.
Been playing hockey for 20 years never lost my helmet once.
some players played for 20 years and still have all their teeth....
Maybe he's got a big head , lol
h had a shaved head and it tends to come off easily when there is no hair to cause friction
because he is a 🤡
They should’ve thrown brash out of the game for running the goalie and this wouldn’t happen same with Steve Moore if he was kicked out and suspended for that vicious hit on naslund things would have been different it’s boils down to the refs and the league not doing enough to de escalate situations
I’m more pissed about his curved stick in ‘93 Final. Brashesr was a pos
The pansy desperation call by Montreal, as plenty on their team had curved sticks. Marty indeed a step above thug donny.
Wayne Gretzky couldn't have a better man for a Bodyguard than Marty McSoreley!
Mcsorley took it too far, but Brashear injuring the Bruins goalie and then mocking the bemch earned him some serious payback. Never go after a goalie! When Marty wanted to fight and Brashear chickened out, it showed who the true coward was...
Then Marty should have just kept getting in Donalds face until the cowards dropped his gloves.
I thought playing hockey was about scoring goals.....who actually suits up for an NHL game to fight. these are NHL players not fighters....i don't think nhl player tough guys always want to fight. even fighters don't always want to fight......
the coaches have to take responsibility too. but then again hockey is a weird game because it encourages fighting.... when a game is lost already there is no need to send or have two fighters out on the ice at the same time...
i love hockey but always hated the fighting in it.....its not like they're trained fighters anyways.. the fighting looks sloppy..,,. if i want to watch fighting i'll rather watch ufc or boxing where the fighters are actually trained and skilled at what they do.......
two guys fighting on skates...wearing hockey equipment, c'mon....you'd rather watch that than them actually tried to score on each other.....
@@donovans6472 Waaaaa
@@donovans6472figure it out bud.
Don’t pick on the other team’s stars and expect to get away Scott free. Motto from the good ‘ol’ days.
Why are you even still talking about this? This one incident does not define Marty McSorley. Have you ever played hockey?
When I think of Mcsorley, I think of his war with Probert. Best fight I've ever seen. They fought for 3 minutes, and Marty said no when the refs tried to come in early. The Gilmour hit and the ensuing fight was also awesome. Let's not forget he was also on the Oilers for part of the dynasty.
Brashear was a thug too to say the least. McSorley actually had SOME skills while Brashear had none at all. Hockey has not become "better" or "safer". It's pretty boring now, with no intensity at all.
You been watching the playoffs? It’s been incredible
It's kinda like watching pong or tennis. Fast skater skates fast loses puck other fast skater skates fast. Rinse repeat.
Trouba did this same thing earlier this season and the NHL made an excuse for it. Had Brashear worn his helmet correctly he’s probably not out 20 games and McSorley probably doesn’t get suspended for as long as he was.
Trouba is currently the Crown Prince of NHL goons (IMHO)
So your gonna giga chad this and blame the victim? Mat your just out of your mind with this take.
I don't disagree about the helmet but come on? That's swing was never going for his shoulder. He was being a bitch . Kept loosing to Brash and couldn't handle it.
Lets just be honest here Brashear was no saint
blaming the victim are you?
@@donovans6472always the victim
Marty mcsorley should have been arrested ..handcuffed..finger printed and put in a holding cell until he was bailed out immediately..... This was a criminal act.....
donald brashear may have been a dirty player but did nothing criminal... He's just your average enforcer but probably better and stronger than the average enforcer....he like other enforcers are there for their dirty play and Fighting ability not to be choir boys we all know this....
Hitting a guy in the head with your hockey stick is not a hockey play.. that's assault with a deadly weapon.... That's criminal and worthy of jail time...
Let's not try to deflect by talking about brashear... Furthermore brashear was not obligated to accept a fight with mcsorley......
@@donovans6472 Brasher tormented & aggravated McSorley to the breaking point, you know the saying f around & find out? He found out
Not like it’s the only time in hockey. Eddie shack, Teddy green/wayne Maki . This is why fighting is allowed. Drop the sticks and gloves.
Brashear was a f*cking hack too. Swinging his stick like a baseball bat.
The voice over guy's high pitched voice is a bigger crime than whatever mcsorley did
lol. agreed.
Yes, the narrator here is annoying.
That was the first grade 3 for anything brashear
Bertuzzi on Moore was still worse
Yes. That was a lowlife move.
Lol how in any way was it worse?
@@stroshow5 for starters Moore broke his neck and never played in the NHL ever again...
@@toddgeorge7421 taking a full swing at a guy from behind with a stick is way worse then a punch
@@stroshow5 it was more than a punch, he drove his head into the ice after the punch
The Bruins Dave Forbes attack on Henry Boucha was way worse. He never regained much vision in his right eye and his career ended because of the attack.
I'm not saying what Mcsorley did wasn't bad but nobody ever mentions The Rocket who broke his stick over a player's back and than punched a linesman. No we name a trophy after him??
Well one thing that happened in the '50s so that was more acceptable and he was first player to score 50 goals in 50 games
This incident and Todd Bertuzzi’s hit on Steve Moore defined the post Gretzky NHL era before the 04-05 lockout
Bertuzzi was a hero and a magician turning Steve Moore into a vegetable. 💩🪄🥔😂
That incident doesn't even rank compared to what McSorely did here... Steve Moore was injured by the dog pile that developed afterwards. Very different circumstances. People always bring this incident up in videos like this. I didn't like what Bert did but people have blown it out of proportion. Meanwhile Steve Moore was and still is a coward.
@@Adam202Moore already answered for the hit on Naslund when he fought Matt Cooke. It should have been over but Bertuzzi took it too far
@@Jersey209 Yes Bert took it too far. I didn't like what he did but it snowballed in a way that was out of his control. It was a situation that warranted a suspension but not the charges and litigation that followed. Moore goes on TV and talk shows every 5 years and does his whole woe is me spiel about how he deserves more money. They say if you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes and that is what Moore did on the ice. He played like a goon too and he could have ended someone else's career just as easily. Live by the sword and die by the sword. So tired of Moore playing the victim. He's not even paralyzed like everyone thinks that he is.
@@Adam202 I do agree that Moore dragged the whole thing out WAAAAY too long after the incident. Bertuzzi knew he f’d up and seemed genuinely remorseful
That conditional discharge was a joke. He should have been charged and have a record. “I was disappointed in him as a hickey person?” After the fact? McSorely was an unrepentant goon.
PS I love that you called him the consummate goon and have subscribed. He was exactly that.
I am so blessed. I grew up watching hockey since 1981. Man the 80s and 90s were so kick ass!
*Eastern Conference Finals in 99 was Buffalo and Toronto.
Jonah is so annoying. Makes the videos unwatchable.
Exactly. He should just talk normal.
People fail to mention the reason McSorley was losing his mind was because Brashear ran the goalie. Thanks for including that part! Brashear would rather taunt the bench after he sent the goalie off on a strecher then fight Marty again. But the coaches are just as much to blame. Canucks send the goon out with 30 seconds left , So of course Boston has to send out McSorley . Had Brashear just fought him again it never would have happened. And besides all that, he didnt even slash him that hard, I been double handed tomahawked right over the head and I didnt go down. Dave Browns shots to the head of Tomas Sandstrum were way worse .....And he did it twice!!!
Dawg he hit his head on the ice and had a concussion. I'm not excusing brashear but come on man.
That wouldn't fit their agenda that's why they left it out.
The good ole days of hockey
This was a great video but i felt like i was being yelled at the whole time
Brashear: “mama, I finally passed my grade tree!”😂
Mcsorley was the coolest player, loved watching him. In Los Angeles he was great
It's pretty wild how such reprehensible and unforgivable behavior was essentially tolerated, or at least punished very differently compared to today. I got into hockey in the 90-91 season in my tween years and saw more of the tail end of it but the 90s were still pretty brutal. Essentially anytime Scott Stevens was still playing was still the brutal, intent to injure era.
"Intent to injure era...." Please stop.
His illegal curved stick is his legacy.
This is more what he's remembered for than the stick imo
McSorley is a psychopath. he has zero remorse and still tries to blame Brashear for his own actions.
FACE IT...BOTH CRIMINALS ON SKATES
@@dalethums8418 lmao settle down babe
@@cravenm.2295lmfao ok girlie man!
People often forget that many of these enforcers were also skilled players. Goonery was just part of the game. Despite the NHL’s overall softening, nothing gets the crowd on its feet faster than a good old hockey fight…
I don't go to watch fights but at least it's an honorable way to battle. McSorley showed himself to be a coward.
@@stevencooke6451 I went to a fight, and a hockey game broke out! (Rodney Dangerfield.)
@@stevencooke6451 Brashear didn't answer the bell and proceeded to taunt the Bruins bench throughout the game. Who was the coward? Fun fact: Everyone hated Donald Brashear.
Brashear brought this on himself. You can't act the tough guy and try to intimidate the Bruins bench then decline the fight. People swing sticks on occasion he just happened to catch Brashear in the noggin.
Please go purchase a new hockey for dummies 6th edition smh!
Marty Mcsorley was in bad boys with Will Smith 🤣
He was also the pilot in Con Air lol.
It should have not involved the police. A 10 game suspension would probably been fine. McSorley lost his mind for a moment and went over the line as has happened many times in the game. Still, Brashear, no choir boy, was taunting and showing no class at all. And he knew better. He knew the culture and unwritten rules. Hockey, going way back before my day in the 70s, was a violent game. Everyone knew the danger. It was part of the attraction. That feeling before starting was palpable. A total rush, unknown and unwanted by the current generation. Oh, it was good. Competition was fierce. The game policed itself. Skilled players were balanced out by guys less skilled but willing to look past their fear and take on whatever came at them. I was always a small guy (140-145) but never turned down a fight. It always felt good to know that you "showed up". Today, in our risk averse society, the focus on everything is on safety. That's what the people want and I'm an anachronism. I get that. But they took a great game that was almost primal in its attraction and turned it into figure skating with a puck. Yes, the skill level today is better than ever, and no one ever has to worry about defending themselves or their mates. Not saying that it is better or worse; it's just 2 separate sports now. I miss the hockey that was played for the first 80 years or so and am bored by the game of today. Others, dare I say most, do not. Masculinity is being slowly drilled out of boys...it's toxic, violent, scary, or whatever. Or so they say. Today's men believe it's honorable to hide behind an authority figure, even a woman, when facing danger. Old time hockey and its attendant moral structure are no longer valued, not in the sport or in life. And that is a shame.
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@@s1n0qu33 Brilliant and well thought out response. My point proven. Game, set, match.
@@MooseGuy1 👍🏼
Wtf are you talking about? 😂😂 it’s assault with a weapon Ya JA. And this was like 20 years ago? Are you drunk? Or was this little BS story just something you’ve been holding onto for a long time?🤦 which of “todays men” are you even referring to, because I PROMISE if you let me whack you with a hockey stick you’re gonna immediately change this whole “ I’m a tough cowboy” shit.😂😂😂
Brashear received karma all at once
Bingo
This will be unpopular, but Brashear had it coming. He had to know that with that behaviour and refusing to fight something was going to happen.
You know why it's unpopular? Because it's a stupid and reckless comment.
First time coming across the Score on youtube. Yall need aa new narrator. Loo
Too hard to take Marty acting like he was the victim of this.
On The Coaches Corner Don Cherry actually defended Marty. He said that he was an ageing veteran and was pretty close to retiring. Donald Brashear was a younger man who won a fight with Marty. Cherry said that out of respect he should have left Marty alone for the rest of the game. Instead he taunted Marty and kept rubbing it in. Marty was a proud veteran who snapped.
@@roberteaston6413 Cherry had a career where he took way too many head shots just like Marty.
exactly... he is a psychopath.
@havierbardem820 I hear he is working at Tin Horton's. Not as an executive but as an employee.
He was victimized by a Draconian punishment
McSorley is one of the greatest HeavyWeights in NHL history. We watched Brashear go from not very good with Montreal to also one of the greatest Heavyweights in NHL history. Probably the greatest shoulder/upper body strength the way he could rag-doll some monsters.
What goes around comes around. Karma at its best.
What is it with Vancouver and dirty hits ? The Bertuzzi-Moore incident happened there too 😮
You're saying this as if Vancouver hasn't been on the other end of the dirty hits the majority of the time outside of the Bertuzzi-Moore incident? And let's get the facts straight with that. What Bertuzzi did was disgusting, but it's already been proven that Moore has likely lied about most of the situation. The punch wasn't what did the majority of the damage and it's been proven he dove to exaggerate it. It was the players dogpiling him that did it. Also, the medical records they released and the many ones he and his lawyer claims he has but refuses to show publicly have pretty much confirmed that he's lying about the majority of the damage he suffered. He was a trash grinder whose career was almost over and soon retiring so he used this to get lots of money out of Bertuzzi. There's no proof of the majority of his claims and people around him say he's lying about many of them such as his breathing, sleep, and light sensitivity issues or say that he was healed from them a few years later despite his claims of him still dealing with it to this day. He didn't deserve to get anywhere near as much as he did out of Bertuzzi for it and it basically ended a possible HHOF career as a result with him not being able to play his style of game in the league ever again. For that reason, I have no sympathy for him.
Point B was much bigger than point A !
Marty is a fuckin joke for that hit, probably shouldve seen jail time
I thought I read he spent a year in jail.
Brash is just as much of a loser.
@@regional1000 you read wrong.
How about Brendan Gallagher? Or is it just players on U.S. teams?
When he was on the Kings, he was Dave Coulier to Gretzky's Bob Saget.
You Oughta Know
I work with a guy that's a year older than McSorley and grew up playing baseball with him till they were teenagers. What he says about him explains a lot about his attitude. He acted like an arrogant selfish clown on their teams. He would cry, literally ball his eyes out, apparently everytime he didnt get to play the position he felt he should be playing. I saw it a lot myself playing higher level sports(not the crying but the parentsruining a kids attitude). He was that kid who's parents tell him he's that best and the strongest at everything until he's an entitled POS for the rest of his life. The guy still hasn't even accepted any blame for this let alone any of the other garbage.
Im glad that when the world hears the name Marty McSorley, they think of this. He was a low caliber hockey player and an even lower caliber human.
Marty's DNA has been linked to the Hanson Brothers.
Donald Brashear is an awesome person. I had the chance to be the guy selling video game stuff to him for a lil while. Very soft spoken, very calm, accidentally extremely funny all the time. I remember this one time he had lost or broken his nintendo wii rca cables, and he came to the store under heavy rain, console in hand and asked me those missing wires by pointing at the empty connectors.... of his now soaking wet nintendo wii ;) I have always been curious to know if when he plugged back that console it was still working or not lolll.
Donald Brashear is the grand nephew of Carl Brashear. Carl was the first black Navy Diver in the US Navy and his story is in the movie “Men of Honor” with Robert DeNiro.
Sounds like Donald is following Carl’s tradition; there are few black hockey players but that didn’t stop him.
“I don’t know why ANYONE would want to be a [hockey player]/Navy diver!”
DeNiro’s famous speech
Your tugging on my heart strings.
I met Marty after a game in LA in the winter of 2014. We talked about this incident and he stated to me in the most sincere way that he meant to hit Donald in the shoulder to get his attention. I honestly don't think this dude had any intentions to hurt Brasher the way he did. They were both enforcers in a league that glorified them for what they did. His mistake was the pinnacle to why hockey has been pussified since. I think Marty only wanted to fight and not hurt him that way. It's too bad that his legacy had to end up with this black eye because of an honest mistake. Those who know, know.....And Brasher knows it was an honest mistake also.
it was an honest mistake, but it doesnt change how horrible it was, sorry.
thats like saying bertuzzis was an honest mistake with his intentions too.
@@nowitstimetosee18 I'm only going by what the man told me. Mcsorley never jumped on Brashear after he hit him in the head with the stick. Bertuzzi jumped on that kids back and beat on him while he was face down. Two very different incidents. You don't have to like what I said, but I believed Marty when he talked about it. If he was truly a jerk he would have just joked about the incident, but he didn't. There was no joking in his voice when he talked about it, only remorse.. He didn't mean to hit him in the head and I believe him.
@@CoreyTourigny its already been proven moore did a dive and that the damage done was because of the players jumping on top. its already been proven he lied about the majority of his health issues and that they were resolved a couple of years after the incident so he could get more money from bertuzzi. mcsorley could have killed brashear. i dont care what his intentions were.
If Mcsorely wasn't a hockey player in that era, guy would have been a criminal thug...just a joke of a human
He would probably be a body guard what are you thinking
Yeah i can see how the snowflakes of this era would see that.
More of a player then brasher ever was
Like Brendan Gallagher?
@teddypendagrass491 ok boomer 🤡 keep defending turd, isnt jeopardy on?
It was always humorous to hear McSorely name drop whenever he'd get himself in trouble. Then you'd hear Gretzky, Coffey, Messier repeat the same defenses of him word for word.
Loved MsSorley, hated brashear. I was too young to remember them, but all the old school games on RUclips, combined with highlights are great, and it's clear which player is the one you'd want on your team... McSorley all the way.
I remember this game well as a fan in Vancouver. I didn’t think it then and I don’t think now that the slash was the dirtiest thing I ever saw. It’s not even close. Dirty? Sure. Suspendible? Naturally.
It was pretty surprising to me that Brashear would be seriously injured from the slash. I imagine it had more to do with him falling and hitting the back of his head on the ice, with his loose helmet flying off.
The suspension was extreme mostly because the optics were so bad, and the video got so much attention - and it embarrassed the NHL enough that they chose an extreme response to protect their brand. The attention in Vancouver also led police to lay charges. Let’s be clear. If injuring a player was to be prosecuted as a rule, the docket would be full hockey players at all levels.
This case has very strong parallels to the Bertuzzi incident. In that case, a player who was expected to fight due to giving a concussion to the Canucks captain in a previous game refused to do so repeatedly - and exposed himself to the sort of action that fighting is supposed to replace . Moore was put on the ice by his coach just before the end of game specifically to face the music lest the Canucks take their anger out on the teams star players. It was expected of Moore to fight and he wouldn’t.
In both cases, if you asked NHL players of the day off the record , they would not condemn either player for their actions. The reason being that they or their teammates could have also found themselves in this predicament. A player will be held accountable one way or another, and bad things happen when you refuse to be accountable. That’s a reality that many casual fans and the wider public doesn’t understand. These unofficial codes about fighting are about the players self regulating fighting on their own terms and for their protection.
Marty was part of the old school tough guy that followed the code about being an enforcer and fighting. In Brashear’s position, it was absolutely expected that you would answer the bell if you are taunting your opponent. The players know it and generally accepted it.
Right or wrong, Brashear opted to do the very things he knew would infuriate McSorely and his refusal to answer the bell - just as Steve Moore did in his incident. Had they stuck to the accepted players norms, each would have been far better off. That fact is often lost on fans.
That’s certainly how the NHL players would see it and the outside observers opinions don’t matter much if we are being honest. They don’t have to suffer the consequences of what happens when unofficial codes on fighting are ignored and things devolve into widespread mercenary actions of loose cannons. That’s what the codes are designed to prevent.
People outside of hockey will say their is just no place for such violence in sports and will condemn anything that is violent. They are re entitled to their opinion but they don’t have to live with the unintended consequences of “fixing” the problem. As such, the players will simply ignore them.
Safer game?? Show me the stats that add up to it being "safer". The slew foots and chicken wing hits to the head etc etc.. There are still targeted injuries. Lots...
Safer game? BS. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster. My Bro said watch Tom Wilson he injures people. I watched just 5 mins, the guy he injured was out weeks.
If you watch it in slow motion, Marty did go for Donald's shoulder pad. But at the end of the day if you bring your stick up that high you run the risk of something bad happening. In which case it did.
The number of people defending McSorley in this comment section is hilarious. Yes, Brashear was also a POS at times who did bad things off the ice, on the ice, and ran their goalie, but so did McSorley many times off the ice, on the ice, etc. and that still doesn't justify assault with a weapon, even if he meant to hit his shoulders which sounds like an excuse. Also, tell me a single enforcer, grinder, power forward, agitator, etc. who hasn't gone too far, ran the goalie, etc. to get under the opponents skin? Literally all of them have and McSorley has been all bark no bite in other incidents too with refusing to fight others while talking trash. And him refusing to fight him there isn't being cowardly. That's being smart for his team when they need it earlier in the game. It's McSorley's fault for taking the bait. This is like the people debating between Marchand or Burrows being worse all over again and when both of them are equal with their past incidents. Furthermore, for the people who are bringing up that off-ice incident involving Brashear, that was an accusation which never went anywhere. There was a verbal argument that led to the police showing up. There were no serious injuries on the accuser or punches thrown and he didn't press charges. He did get into other incidents off the ice since retirement too and is low on money, but so have many tough guys in that era now. It's what happens when they were used, suffered drug issues, CTE which McSorley gave him more of, etc. and then are discarded. McSorley has gotten into similar off-ice altercations too and hasn't done too well for himself since retirement either. So has the majority of the NHL tough guys including some Hall of Famers. That's the world and if you go outside. He's still respected by many in his 50s playing in the LNAH. He's had issues and incidents, but that isn't him being a terrible person, that's him struggling. He's doing better for himself today. McSorley was a POS and that's all there is to it. Some of you sound like the same people defending Voynov when he was banned lol.
Bretuzzi was worse
The “code of violence” is not senseless. It evolved out of an extremely fast and dangerous and physical game. The Americanization of hockey has not benefited the game. It is far less physical now and - as a result - less passionate. It’s basically soccer-on-ice.
What about Wayne Maki used Ted Green's head as a pinata in 1969, or when Eddie Shore ended Ace Bailey's career in 1933. This guy mentions Dino Ciccarelli's incident, but leaves those two out?
Its always an issue with Vancouver. Whether it’s the organization, the city or the players. Hell even actor Joshua Jackson got in trouble multiple times at Vancouver games.
But Tom Wilson is still allowed to play in the nhl???
He was Mack the co-pilot in Con Air
Mc Sourley and Bretuzzie are two completely different stories. Bert was trying to stand up for his teammate. What was done to Naslund was on McSourley's level
Thinking?
The best hit ever!!! 😅 Hahaha now that's hockey 🏒
Thank you McSorley for great memories !
Hahaha 😂 que Viva los turcasos.
To the beard due commentator, Kermit the frog called and he wants his voice back!
I remember Brasher playing for the Fredricton Canadians and getting his ass beat by the animal frank billows of the st.johns maple leafs. Toughest guy I ever seen fight and I remember the banner saying welcome to the animals house!!!
“I don’t know what Marty McSorley was thinking,” he wasn’t Sadly his time was up when he was no longer Gretzkys body guard
McSorely was pure garbage. On every team for which he ever played.
Incredible strength and stamina, to be sure.
But pure garbage
If he’d have been better coached, like say Scott Stevens was to control his goonish tendencies, he could’ve been a helluva player - Almost like Stevens, who himself started off as little more than a goon but was crafted into a top defenseman by playing smarter and letting his notoriety do most of the work for him.
McSorely clearly had the skills to become such a player, but his fighting was deemed a more valuable asset to teams like the Oilers, Kings and Rangers. Interestingly enough, ALL of which retained his services to make sure no one ate Gretzky’s lunch at school.
And while Brashear will never be mistaken for an altar boy, McSorely’s assault on him was beyond gutless. Right up there with some of the biggest stains in the NHL, along with some of the ones mentioned in the comments.
Donald was actually a pretty big bully and tough player, thought that's why he did that. I don't think he thought it was going to do that kind of damage but I don't think he considered what it could potentially do.
believe me Mcsore was the real deal & he was loved here in LA even after the fat stick incident & I AIN'T TALK'N THE HEAD SHOT FOLKS! In any case what I loved about Big Mac was he never ever backed down & Bra had his number, Mac still was willing after 9 rounds of which he lost more then to anyone else, that's a player! & he scored some big big goals for us always when we needed it so badly every now & then he would come through. Had a beer & a hot dog with him at the Staples Center VIP Stogie with Rogie night he spoke to everyone came by to speak with each & every person that night then he'd go back to a quite far corner & wolf 3 more hotdogs, great guy.
MacSorley was just tired of getting his ass kicked and knew he couldn't beat Brashear in a fair fight
There's a story in my town that Marty was at one of the local bars partying having a good time then shit hit the fan.. the story goes he was drinking a shit ton and did huge lines of blow having a great time(this town has a habit of saying anyone with some kind of importance has a secret cocaine habbit🤔) as the night went on jealousy from a group of wannabee tuff guys that got all pissy from the attention Marty was getting and had the bad idea of trying to fight him. 1vs1 wasn't the idea they had they wanted to jump him so once the beef started Marty had finished it just as quick he had 3 of em piled ontop of each other on the pool table buy slamming 2 of em together and the 3rd getting K.O with a hook and being tossed on the 2 men on the pool table. After he had another guy buy the neck back, peddling begging for marty to lay a beating into him. I don't know how true it is, but he was at the local bar for sure I've bin told, but how true the fight was is unknown. It seems a bit much, but I've seen a lot more craziness in fights from guys that have nowhere near the physical ability that Marty has so I do take this story with a grain of salt but it is one of the 1000s I've herd and read about online with Marty clearing a bar out.
I cant read the guys name who talking about incident?
7:18 lol knock it off Don. You weren’t ever going to score 20 goals in the NHL. You would’ve finished the season with 12 goals, y’bum
They mention McSorley has a great plus minus stat as if he was skilled. Maybe it was because he was on the ice with Wayne Gretzky much of his career
Ditch the overdramatic background music.
I remember Gretzky talking about this in an interview afterward. He said Marty, "Wasn't that guy." Except we caught it on video, so he was that guy.
You don´t clearly know what Gretzky was referring to.
Plus one incident does not define who he was as a hockey player. Good old all or none thinking……gotta love that immaturity!
@@poksi360 I think it was pretty clear.
If that happened today he would be charged for a hate crime
Your birth was a crime against humanity.
I always Support Marty McSorley #33 ✌🏻 A HERO AND GREAT PLAYER/FIGHTER IN 80s AND 90s. 💪🏻
Some Elite Athletes, Who Mostly Only Experience Winning In Their Sporting Life, Have Little Emotional Practice Or Opportunity To Properly Deal With Losing...Since It Seldom Occurred To Them. I Myself...Have Lost Many More Times Than I Have Won...For Me, It Is Simple To Be Gracious In Defeat.
The Majority Of Sports *Stars Know Where The STUPID LINE IS.
Emotions Can Run Wild...The Speed Of Hockey Is Explosive💥
Do You Remember "Tie Domi's" Mental Slip ...When He "Lost It" And Elbowed "Scott Niedermayer"? I Love "Tie" But, He Did Pull Off A Bonehead Move.
Emotions Run High.
Thank You
McSorley was trying to kill him because he was humiliated by Brashear in a fight. Dude was always that kind of guy.
Friend of mine got stuck in the middle of a high school fight between Probert and Corson. He shit his pants ducked out and got the hell outta the house.
Donald Brashear seems to be a great guy. Not arrogant like Avery or guys like these. I loved him with the Habs when I was young. Certainly more then Mario Temblay back for ppl who met him in person during the Memorial Cup in Laval.
Bro, calm down.
Brashear is being a drama queen.
McSorley clearly wanted to fight - Brashear was out there solely to fight. If Brashear didn't want to go, he should have gotten off the ice ......
imagine defending someone who almost killed another player
Mcsorley says after the fact that he was disappointed in Brashear as a hockey person…Gaslighting much?
Brasher never lost to Marty. Brashear rag dolled him every time
Yea Marty let his emotions get the best of him but he is an honestly good dude.
He spent *FIFTY SIX AND ONE HALF HOURS* in the penalty box. (At least, that's presuming none of those penalties were cut short by giving up a goal.) When you've already spent two entire days in prison for assault, you have to expect something like this happening.