I’m 61 and have been a shooter since about 12 years old. Grew up hunting with the Remington 1100 and S&W revolvers and autos. As time passed I gravitated towards Glocks and CZ’s. My personal carry weapon is a G48 with 15 round shield mags. I keep EVERYTHING STOCK except the crappy sights. Every time I’ve replaced or tinkered with the trigger in a Glock failure’s always followed. There’s nothing fancy about a Glock but you can count on them when things go south. My favorite pistol of all time is the CZ SP 01 tactical. I live in Monroe, La and took it to Cajun Gun Works for a complete tuneup. $2,100 for the gun, Delta Point Pro and gunsmithing. That weapon out shoots anything I’ve ever fired hands down. Zero recoil and an absolute tack driver in the hands of anyone who dedicates the training time. The only drawback is weight. It’s a heavy gun but well worth the investment and trade off in my opinion. Cajun Gun Works is amazing. Got to know the guys and they love what they do. He set my trigger at 3lbs and that takes some getting used too but once you settle in it’s game on. A buddy of mine bought the $5,000 dollar 2011 and I gave it a try. Super nice and flat shooting but I preferred the CZ. Glocks will forever be the fighting weapon you can count on when the SHTF. Just acquired the G40 and love it. That one goes boom in a big way. Try that one vs. the G20. I believe you get all of the powder burn with the extra length. No fireball Love all of your content.
They are nice for many reasons, only work on the full size grips though. The early g5 19’s is where the hate cane from because its too small of a grip for it and your finger lays right over the top of the cut out and its very uncomfortable.
That stupid moon cut out is on my gen 2 g19 and it can pinch your pinky finger while shooting if you don’t have a good grip , they should have put it on the side imho
Lots of soy-bois with soft milky skinned hands here, crying about the half moon cut-out on the grip. I love it for the same reasons explained in the video.
Excellent post up, thank you my friend. Good inspiration or direction for how to make it work for the individual. Was surprised on the stock barrel on gen 3 to be honest. I run stock in all of mine, but "assumed" you would try and tighten tolerance, however I heard your statement on reliability loud and clear.
Thanks bob, as a G34 IDPA shooter I get a lot of grief from the 2011 guys. You definitely show that it’s not entirely about the gun, more so the time and effort put into the platform.
Only shot glocks 15 years! I bought my first one in 1987! The department ordered a few to try out to replace their HK P7M13 pistols but couldn't get past the "no safety" part of the Glock.I paid $275 and still own it. Good video
I’m glad to to hear you confirm what I’d been figuring. The most I’ve thrown into a gun is new sights, trigger shoe $20, and Teran’s grand master kit, but I’d try your set up too if I had another Glock needing it.
I like Vogel's triggers. $150 for a trigger I like I can live with because the trigger I like is the one thing I like what I like. I have a comp. trigger for the 34 and a duty trigger for my G19.
My favorite striker spring is the 3.5 but it does not give 100% ignition. I had to go back to 4.0. 13lbs recoil spring really helped how the gun tracks back during double or bill drills.
It's funny. I'm the exact opposite, I've been shooting Glocks for closer to 30 years, and I care less now about the trigger than I did 15 years ago. I'm with you on irons tho. Got lots of guns with red dots, but if I get serious, it irons all the way.
Thank you champion for share your secrets with us so the recoil spring 11 pounds or 12 is ok and the trigger we have to buy some thing specific thanks again your videos help me I a lot and your techniques in competition are amazing your speed is wonderful thanks
Not bragging just a fact, for years, people ask me what I put in mine because everyone loves my trigger pull/glock setup. I always tell them, "an hour and some know how"
Great video. I too love iron sights. I think a red dot is way over rated for the average EDC citizen and not needed. Iron sights work nicely and don’t add bulk to a concealed carry gun. I will say, I love a KKM barrel in my Glock 20’s, 40 and 29’s when hunting with lead hardcast bullets. Otherwise, OEM Glock barrels are awesome “as-is.”
Robert, you are looking younger than you did 8 years ago. You are the new Dick Clark!! I've been watching you "Grip" videos and I'm working on that, for those double taps.
👏👏Bob is my Glock hero, just amazing. I'm wondering if Bob reloads his own ammo and if so what he does to avoid issues with the bulging of the .40 S&W case when using Glock's stock barrel.
I’m getting old and am having trouble seeing my sights without my glasses. Other than the obvious, always wear your glasses, your thoughts on optics on my pistol?
Is that a G34? I have a G19 with a TLR-1 Tac Light for home defense on my night table that I am getting ready to modify for the trigger and mag release.
Would be awesome if you'd do a video just on your trigger refinement, don't know if that's possible. You an awesome shooter. You don't need a TTI Glock to be competitive; make you base secondnature, buy and drill with as much ammo as you can afford, stretch that out with good drills, and consistent training and endless dry-fire reps. Hopefully this is what people take away from this video, Thank you much, Bob. Kudos!
When Glock haters tell me that no one will ever win anything with a Glock, I simply throw them Robert Vogel's name and "Glock 34" and when they research what he's done and the top shooters he's beaten, they're in shock. Robert is proof that you don't need a $10,000 pistol to beat the best shooters in the world.
If you are unconcerned about pre-travel and over-travel, and do a lot of other work on the parts, and have Mr. Vogel's talent, the Glock has a decent trigger.
Glock only had a "bad" trigger, until everybody started making a striker fired pistol. Now you have many companies that has the same exact trigger as a Glock, some just have a lighter pull. That's a trade off. Glock never really refined their trigger, and it was on purpose... because as Gaston said "I make duty ready pistols"...
How can u put a 11lb guiderod with factory striker springs? I try that and never go back to battery, i have to put a 4lb striker springs, and like u said it gets picky with ammo i start having light strike .will u help?
Sir. I'm a LE in the Great Republic of Texas. Carry a Glock 45, wondering if you plan on doing some nite sights? Also if you were to make mods to the 45 duty carry what would u do. I'm a former Glock armorer.
I'm 53 & a Army veteran, licensed security officer. I own 4 Glocks. 2 used. I like Trijicon HD orange night sights. Those or Glock OEM Ameriglo night sights. I often add LWA 🐺 extractors. Glock Store slide lock. Tango Down slide lock, magazine release(Vickers). True Precision barrels-PVD or KKM match barrels are +. KKM offers military, 🚑🚒🚓 discounts too.
Man, I love my G34 gen4 mos, changed out the recoil spring for a stainless steel 17LB. Like factory, but i have a question. While I can notice a better recoil, can a lower LB., say 15LB Spring damage my slide? By the way, i do have a reddot on it, as well as a light..
It's frame battering you need to look out for, and what you're shooting through it is the main concern with lighter recoil springs. Minimum power factor vs +p makes for a big difference with really light recoil springs.
Perhaps a plug would help me when it comes to catching the skin of my palm when putting in the magazine quickly during competition. My hands are large so that hinders the exchange of magazines quickly.
I tried a new Vickers brand "plug" on my NIB Glock gen 5 MOS .40 in 2021. The plug was a mess! 😖 it repeatedly flew out or got stuck. Would I suggest using Glock frame plugs? No. Gaston Glock 🇦🇹 knew what he was doing. Avoid the plugs!
Well I'm not you, but I love iron sites. However, due to my Lasik surgery I cannot see the back site in an indoor range. Outdoors it's perfect, so i have to do both Dots and irons...I will say I believe practicing with the Dot site makes me better at the iron sites.
I kid with my shooting friends...I tell them I have the quickest draw on target out of holster as you...I assume my shooting stance and don't move and then look at them grinning and state , "Do you want to see it again" ?
Love it, Bob! I'm sure you're driving a lot of the "tacticool" people insane with how simple you keep your setup (and the fact that you stick with Glock!). Thanks for the knowledge transfer! PS -- Which gun do you generally use for your carry gun?
I've got about the same going on on my commiefornia gen3 g20, tungsten guide rod w 17 lb spring, talon grips, truglow tritium sights, glockstore weighted brass "thug plug" glock factory extended slide release and slide lock levers
You'll enjoy the red dot here In about 15 more years. Don't think the Timney Alpha can be beat as a trigger upgrade. Then again Bob could use a flintlock and smoke me so
I have one Glock the Gen 5 19. I’ve added a plug and added night sights…but the one last thing I did with it after purchasing the PDP Compact and P320 AXG Scorpion is leave it in the safe 😂😂
@Robert Vogel
Please do that long video on what you do internally for the trigger and one on irons vs dots.
Nice nuggets here, thanks!
I would love to hear that 20 minute discussion about irons and dots that you were referring to early in the video.
I’m 61 and have been a shooter since about 12 years old. Grew up hunting with the Remington 1100 and S&W revolvers and autos. As time passed I gravitated towards Glocks and CZ’s. My personal carry weapon is a G48 with 15 round shield mags. I keep EVERYTHING STOCK except the crappy sights. Every time I’ve replaced or tinkered with the trigger in a Glock failure’s always followed. There’s nothing fancy about a Glock but you can count on them when things go south. My favorite pistol of all time is the CZ SP 01 tactical. I live in Monroe, La and took it to Cajun Gun Works for a complete tuneup. $2,100 for the gun, Delta Point Pro and gunsmithing. That weapon out shoots anything I’ve ever fired hands down. Zero recoil and an absolute tack driver in the hands of anyone who dedicates the training time. The only drawback is weight. It’s a heavy gun but well worth the investment and trade off in my opinion. Cajun Gun Works is amazing. Got to know the guys and they love what they do. He set my trigger at 3lbs and that takes some getting used too but once you settle in it’s game on. A buddy of mine bought the $5,000 dollar 2011 and I gave it a try. Super nice and flat shooting but I preferred the CZ.
Glocks will forever be the fighting weapon you can count on when the SHTF. Just acquired the G40 and love it. That one goes boom in a big way. Try that one vs. the G20. I believe you get all of the powder burn with the extra length. No fireball
Love all of your content.
Guy really knows his Glocks, best video I’ve seen
You’re the first person I’ve ever heard that actually likes the moon-shaped cutout on the front strap of a Glock.
Cos you casuals wouldn’t know. IYKYK
They are nice for many reasons, only work on the full size grips though. The early g5 19’s is where the hate cane from because its too small of a grip for it and your finger lays right over the top of the cut out and its very uncomfortable.
That stupid moon cut out is on my gen 2 g19 and it can pinch your pinky finger while shooting if you don’t have a good grip , they should have put it on the side imho
Lots of soy-bois with soft milky skinned hands here, crying about the half moon cut-out on the grip. I love it for the same reasons explained in the video.
Dropping so much knowledge and experience in this short video. Every gun owner should watch this
Appreciate the time and effort it takes to post these videos.
I agree I run stock mostly on everything. I first master how it comes then go from there.
Need another separate video about the trigger job! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bob. You da man!
Excellent post up, thank you my friend. Good inspiration or direction for how to make it work for the individual. Was surprised on the stock barrel on gen 3 to be honest. I run stock in all of mine, but "assumed" you would try and tighten tolerance, however I heard your statement on reliability loud and clear.
Solid info... always appreciated!
Respectfully, Seth
Thanks Robert for sharing ;)
Thanks bob, as a G34 IDPA shooter I get a lot of grief from the 2011 guys. You definitely show that it’s not entirely about the gun, more so the time and effort put into the platform.
As a 2011 shooter, I don't care what others shoot. I'm sure most G34 shooters outshoot me and my XC lol
@@Ryansrangereport I shot an XC about a month ago, they are incredible guns!!
@@chrisharris6834 Just got mine, I will say I bumped up from 15-20th to 10th in my first IDPA match using it! I love it.
@@Ryansrangereport that’s fantastic!
Are you shooting CO or ESP?
CO with an SRO
Only shot glocks 15 years!
I bought my first one in 1987! The department ordered a few to try out to replace their HK P7M13 pistols but couldn't get past the "no safety" part of the Glock.I paid $275 and still own it.
Good video
Thank's for the knowledge.
I’m glad to to hear you confirm what I’d been figuring. The most I’ve thrown into a gun is new sights, trigger shoe $20, and Teran’s grand master kit, but I’d try your set up too if I had another Glock needing it.
Glad to hear you approve of Gen 3. Being in California, that’s what we’re limited to, for now!
Thank,
Isaac
Thanks for the pro tips! Subscribed 😊
Hey man you are awesome! Your muscle memory is so developed that it's like shooting without aiming! You are always on target! Make new videos :)
I like Vogel's triggers. $150 for a trigger I like I can live with because the trigger I like is the one thing I like what I like. I have a comp. trigger for the 34 and a duty trigger for my G19.
Great vid Robert
The man! Can't wait to come train with you soon.
Great video, may you do a video on all the gear you used for the different competitions? Thanks!
My favorite striker spring is the 3.5 but it does not give 100% ignition. I had to go back to 4.0. 13lbs recoil spring really helped how the gun tracks back during double or bill drills.
Can you please do a more in depth video on your process for doing trigger jobs
Legend. Good info
It's funny. I'm the exact opposite, I've been shooting Glocks for closer to 30 years, and I care less now about the trigger than I did 15 years ago.
I'm with you on irons tho. Got lots of guns with red dots, but if I get serious, it irons all the way.
Thank you champion for share your secrets with us so the recoil spring 11 pounds or 12 is ok and the trigger we have to buy some thing specific thanks again your videos help me I a lot and your techniques in competition are amazing your speed is wonderful thanks
Very informative. Thanks for sharing the knowledge 🔥💪👊🇺🇸🔫😎
thanks Bob!
Thank you.
I like a polishing job on the trigger components and nite sights
Not bragging just a fact, for years, people ask me what I put in mine because everyone loves my trigger pull/glock setup.
I always tell them, "an hour and some know how"
Awesome video
I recently just fell into G35 gen3s on accident, digging them oddly lol.
Great video
Great video. I too love iron sights. I think a red dot is way over rated for the average EDC citizen and not needed. Iron sights work nicely and don’t add bulk to a concealed carry gun. I will say, I love a KKM barrel in my Glock 20’s, 40 and 29’s when hunting with lead hardcast bullets. Otherwise, OEM Glock barrels are awesome “as-is.”
Thanks for sparing, Bob!
Did you try the Glock Performance Trigger yet? I greatly prefer them over the standard triggers.
Would like to see you shoot a G19, since it's the most common carry just for reference vs the 34 which is more competition.
Robert, you are looking younger than you did 8 years ago. You are the new Dick Clark!! I've been watching you "Grip" videos and I'm working on that, for those double taps.
I only changed one thing on my glock 43x and that was put talon grips on it I still have to put night sights on it
Gen.3 4-Life.I like the large plug too.
Thanks for the Video. I would like to know what you do with you trigger . Which parts do you change and so on. Can you do a video about this?
I have you sight on my PDP - they are the best - Thanks from Sweden
Amazing you still use irons that’s amazing. I still do prefer them myself. Nice to see someone still with something that works fine.
👏👏Bob is my Glock hero, just amazing. I'm wondering if Bob reloads his own ammo and if so what he does to avoid issues with the bulging of the .40 S&W case when using Glock's stock barrel.
Lee bulge buster kit
More videos please
Gen 4 and 5 seem to be over sprung
Any thoughts?
Glock factory night sights, grip plug, polish internals, more mags and ammo.
Rob, looking to get a Glock what model do you recommend for a do all? G45 or G47?
I’m getting old and am having trouble seeing my sights without my glasses. Other than the obvious, always wear your glasses, your thoughts on optics on my pistol?
💯👌🏻🙌🏻
Stock Glock 19 Gen 3 all day long and twice on Sunday...
wow... I'd love to hear more about the trigger. what do you do to it?
I still got your sights on my 17. Since you came in Valeggio. The best sights on the market.
2:90
haha unexpectedly brutal advice
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How come not as much competitions these days?
Is that a G34? I have a G19 with a TLR-1 Tac Light for home defense on my night table that I am getting ready to modify for the trigger and mag release.
Would be awesome if you'd do a video just on your trigger refinement, don't know if that's possible. You an awesome shooter. You don't need a TTI Glock to be competitive; make you base secondnature, buy and drill with as much ammo as you can afford, stretch that out with good drills, and consistent training and endless dry-fire reps. Hopefully this is what people take away from this video, Thank you much, Bob. Kudos!
Polish up your feed ramp with 600-2000 grit sandpaper and metal polish
Make it shine like a mirror
please do an in depth trigger video
When Glock haters tell me that no one will ever win anything with a Glock, I simply throw them Robert Vogel's name and "Glock 34" and when they research what he's done and the top shooters he's beaten, they're in shock. Robert is proof that you don't need a $10,000 pistol to beat the best shooters in the world.
What model glock is your favorite?
I prefer iron pistol sights, love Glock factory sights, but I can no longer focus on iron sights. I've had to switch to red dots.
If you are unconcerned about pre-travel and over-travel, and do a lot of other work on the parts, and have Mr. Vogel's talent, the Glock has a decent trigger.
😂😂😂
Glock only had a "bad" trigger, until everybody started making a striker fired pistol. Now you have many companies that has the same exact trigger as a Glock, some just have a lighter pull. That's a trade off.
Glock never really refined their trigger, and it was on purpose... because as Gaston said "I make duty ready pistols"...
How can u put a 11lb guiderod with factory striker springs? I try that and never go back to battery, i have to put a 4lb striker springs, and like u said it gets picky with ammo i start having light strike .will u help?
Do you still stick to 40 or do you shoot more 9mm now?
Sir. I'm a LE in the Great Republic of Texas. Carry a Glock 45, wondering if you plan on doing some nite sights? Also if you were to make mods to the 45 duty carry what would u do. I'm a former Glock armorer.
I'm 53 & a Army veteran, licensed security officer. I own 4 Glocks. 2 used. I like Trijicon HD orange night sights. Those or Glock OEM Ameriglo night sights. I often add LWA 🐺 extractors. Glock Store slide lock. Tango Down slide lock, magazine release(Vickers). True Precision barrels-PVD or KKM match barrels are +. KKM offers military, 🚑🚒🚓 discounts too.
Man, I love my G34 gen4 mos, changed out the recoil spring for a stainless steel 17LB. Like factory, but i have a question. While I can notice a better recoil, can a lower LB., say 15LB Spring damage my slide? By the way, i do have a reddot on it, as well as a light..
It's frame battering you need to look out for, and what you're shooting through it is the main concern with lighter recoil springs. Minimum power factor vs +p makes for a big difference with really light recoil springs.
How would you set up a 9mm Glock for IPSC Production Division?
I have your sights on my 34, where can I get a replacement rear sight set screw?
Perhaps a plug would help me when it comes to catching the skin of my palm when putting in the magazine quickly during competition. My hands are large so that hinders the exchange of magazines quickly.
I tried a new Vickers brand "plug" on my NIB Glock gen 5 MOS .40 in 2021. The plug was a mess! 😖 it repeatedly flew out or got stuck. Would I suggest using Glock frame plugs? No. Gaston Glock 🇦🇹 knew what he was doing. Avoid the plugs!
Pull the Damn trigger...it may be slower than custom but extremely effective with practice...
Isnt the seattle plug banned from standard division?
How do you get a 2-2.5 lb trigger with a stock striker spring?
What connector do you use? + - . ?
Got a Gen5 19 w/ half moon cut (1st version) I actually like the moon cut….. then they did away with it 🤷🏼♂️
I have been shooting a Gen3 G17 for years. I have shot some rounds through the Gen4 and 5 Glocks and I don't like them for some reason.
Dude, you gotta take off that bernie Sanders shirt
What is your trigger used in competitions?
gritty triggers that's why imo they are different.
Well I'm not you, but I love iron sites. However, due to my Lasik surgery I cannot see the back site in an indoor range. Outdoors it's perfect, so i have to do both Dots and irons...I will say I believe practicing with the Dot site makes me better at the iron sites.
Can we have a little bit more information about the recoil spring ?
11lb is crazy. most don't go below 15lb
Anyone know what sights he uses?
Who did the slide Cut?
What about timney trigger????
What model is that Glock in his hands?
I kid with my shooting friends...I tell them I have the quickest draw on target out of holster as you...I assume my shooting stance and don't move and then look at them grinning and state , "Do you want to see it again" ?
Love it, Bob! I'm sure you're driving a lot of the "tacticool" people insane with how simple you keep your setup (and the fact that you stick with Glock!). Thanks for the knowledge transfer! PS -- Which gun do you generally use for your carry gun?
Call me crazy but probably a Glock.
He carries a Hipoint crossdraw in a velcro holster
What I do to my Glocks: Sell them and buy Sigs.
I can’t listen to people that suck their own teeth…It’s Methed up💯
I've got about the same going on on my commiefornia gen3 g20, tungsten guide rod w 17 lb spring, talon grips, truglow tritium sights, glockstore weighted brass "thug plug" glock factory extended slide release and slide lock levers
i’ve never snagged a reload on my glock lol
“Sights and trigger” - then why would you ever pick a Glock lol
You'll enjoy the red dot here In about 15 more years. Don't think the Timney Alpha can be beat as a trigger upgrade. Then again Bob could use a flintlock and smoke me so
I have one Glock the Gen 5 19. I’ve added a plug and added night sights…but the one last thing I did with it after purchasing the PDP Compact and P320 AXG Scorpion is leave it in the safe 😂😂
How many time do you really get asked.
On my 21…. Sights and trigger. Imagine that
What I do to my Glocks?
I give them away and buy a Sig SAUER
which doesn’t require any modifications.
Nice trigger and Glock in the same sentence is something very often. Yes i shoot a 1911 and 2011.
Glock triggers are pretty poor.
Everyone who competes switches out or works on their trigger regardless of the gun.
What I did to my Glocks: Sell them. Each and every one. For my 26 falling apart on me. Junk.