Are Electric Motorcycles Worth It - Energica Eva EsseEsse9 Real World Test
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Are electric motorcycles worth it in the real world? I take a 2019 Energica Eva EsseEsse9 out and about on the roads of Britain and use the awesome Calimoto app to plot a random route into the country to intentionally run out of charge. How easy is it to find a charge point, and how long does it take? Find out in this vid.
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Hands down, one of the most down-to-earth reviews of any electric motorcycle I've seen on RUclips; no shovelling in of figures, no sugar coating (no unnecessary bashing, either), no prejudice, no nonsense, just experimenting like any of us would do and enjoying it while doing so... Great video, mate!
Thanks very much Subtle! Glad you enjoyed it bud 👍
Richy Vida does a good review too
Outstanding review, now they have the 21kwh battery in the same bike, range well over 100 miles... brilliant
Thanks bud, yes the 2020 models have fantastic range from around 150-250 miles!!
teapotone indeed, with that range they are going to be rather excellent. Maybe not quite the touring master, but for a weekend blast, yes. I have been around the top of Scotland all electric 3 times now, but that was in my car with its huge battery.
I've been using Calimoto for 3 or 4 years and it's right what you say, the amount of new roads and little villages that you discover on your doorstep is astounding. But every journey I've been on with it has not disappointed, it's a great app!
That’s great to hear Peter, glad you’re enjoying it 👍
Maximum points on the Grin-ometer! - that actually made me grin in response 😁, you're not having fun at all, are you! Excellent review, keep spreading the love ✌🏍🐱👓
Thanks Dragon, they really are a lot of fun 😉👍
“In the middle of nowhere” aka the UK’s densely populated south east. Not like the middle of nowhere in Wales or Scotland where charging infrastructure is almost non-existent so be prepared to push!
in scotland there are charge points all the way round the nc500 and has been for a while
Scotland has a superb charging network
You should see parts of the US, where there's nearly 150 mile gaps between charging stations in some places such as New Mexico or Texas. In other places, they can be there every 10 miles
Just take a small detour to a DC Station on motorway.
And supermarkets from Lidl are installing DC too. And what's not now, is for next few years for sure.
When I get an Energica. First stop will be the Ferry into Scotland! 😎
It's gonna happen isn't it. Once there's more charge points, smaller / lighter batteries and the cost comes down it's there. I just can't get over the noise (or lack of) I get all giddy over a bike's engine/ exhaust noise. Good to see a more "real world" bike review, well done that man. More please!
Thanks bud, lots to come this year 😉👍
Great video, I've ridden the Zero DS and SR/F but I'd love to try an Energica. I don't think I'd get one as my only bike any time soon but I'd happily buy one if I wasn't a poor person. I agree though, electric bikes are effortless, fantastic bikes.
Stumbled on your channel today, subbed after seeing you've decided to go full time with it. Best of luck man, enjoying what content I've seen whilst working! I've always had great rides with Calimoto in the Kent area, so many great little roads and a few good pubs as well. Don't know if you have any sway or contact with them at all but if you could suggest a road rating system that would be great. Sometimes a road is a bit too rural or gravelly on a motorbike to be enjoyable, if we could tap a no entry button on the screen or something whilst riding down it so that the app knows to avoid that road in the future that would be great!
Thanks for your support and for subscribing bud, welcome to the channel.
Yep they are my thoughts too, I’m going to do a vid review on the CalimotoApp and I’ll be asking everyone for their feedback in the vid comments, which I’ll then feedback to them 👍
@@teapotone The app looks really good, I've just downloaded it from your link so will try it out. Another great vid from you Bruce..
@@teapotone Hi mate what is the helmet you ware on your jollies.
Cheers Ally, hope you enjoy it 👍
Hi Jack, I usually wear the Shoei Hornet ADV bud. Just trying the new Ruroc Atlas 2.0 and got the new LS2 Evo Pioneer to try soon, so will let you know what I think👍
oi @teapotone , really enjoy these videos. As this footage was from August you may be more familiar with the Energica bikes by now, but I watched the charging section and couldn't help but notice the bike wasn't turned up to full power. That is to say at your charge session you were only requesting 65 amps from the station out of a potential 80 from that bike which maths out to you getting 19kW instead of ~25kW.
While charging the bike, turn the key on and then toggle the MODE button to the left or right to adjust charge rate. I don't know why you were set low, but it will go up a lot higher than you had it, meaning significantly faster charge. Cheers from California.
Awesome bud, thanks very much for that, I didn’t know anything about it!
Top man, glad you enjoyed it 👍👏
Like it pal, keep it up. Electric cars and bikes will be the norm in 10 years
First time I saw a bike review of 35 mins without skipping ... great job! Driving a Horwin CR6 this summer I think I will change to an Energica in 2021...
Thanks very much Andreas, glad you enjoyed it 👍
@@teapotone I did it, ordered an eva esse esse 9+ yesterday ... 😎
Wow! Awesome stuff bud, congratulations 👏
Let me know how you find living with it please 👍
Another good watch 😎☝️🏍🇬🇧 after 18 months off due to RTA I’ve watched a lot of RUclips and you my friend are one of the best , and the inspiration for having a go myself, your helmet set up vid is def the best I’ve watched , now purchased all my bits including GoPro , now skint and sleeping on sofa , but feeling alive lol 😂
Ha Ha, awesome bud! Thanks very much and welcome to the world of motovlogging!
You’ll be launching your own channel, wearing your own T-shirt’s, and shouting ‘Hey Kids, Looooook at that’ in no time whilst singing country songs!😂👍
teapotone definitely no singing well not out loud 😎☝️🏍🇬🇧😂 it freaks buddy out who’s buddy you say his the little guy in my profile pic probably the fastest chihuahua in the world lol 😂
Well pal you have answered a lot of my queries regarding the electric bikes, as you say 2.66 for 80 odd miles, that's cheaper than petrol, however am sure there will be a usage charge down the line. Fair enough the cost of the bike initially is higher. Cheers pal
The model Esseess9 + model 2020 with 21.5 kWh has an almost double battery / double range.
Of course, charging takes twice as long (approx. 40 minutes) despite 25kW.
Yep it’s pretty stunning isn’t it, hoping to get hold of the 2020 range at some point 😉👍
I just ordered a 21.5kWh Eva Ribelle and live .2mi away from 7 brand new L2 charging stations. And they’re free 😊 Planning on filling up while I grab a quick bite to eat before each ride, which I pretty much do anyways.
Lots of L3’s evenly spaced out in my area too and I’m in a very rural area. Even if paying for energy here and there, it’s just as it was in the video.. about half or a little less than half the cost of petrol. Add to that, minimal maintenance and my return of investment on the cost of ownership offsets my initial buy in by ~$3k/yr. my average length of bike ownership is about 7 years. That alone pays for the bike.
☀️⚡️Even if I top off at home and wake up to a full “tank” each day, it’s still on the cheap or free as I create a surplus of energy each month with the 20 solar panels on my roof. It’s the middle of summer with my A/C on regularly and I still have a current credit of $240.. and I have a Tesla that gets plugged in at home as well. Sometimes I have an electric bill of $20-$50 if its been a cloudy/rainy month. It’s like installing a sun to cash converter on my roof as I get a rebate check from my utility company at the end of each year. Might as well put some of that excess in the form of fun on a new electric motorcycle.
Converting sun into fun.. I like that.
@@evolv.e Congratulations on choosing a Ribelle. After 5000 km with my SS9 + I can see the following. So far I have only recharged 2 times at an external charging station (with CCS). So almost exclusively use the socket at home. Today I am e.g. Driven almost 150 km for a good 3 hours, that works great without reloading.
Thats the best all round review I've seen of and Electric bike, keep up the good work fella
Thanks bud 👍
The amount of times the gopro messes up for us is a nightmare! But it is the best camera for what we do. Nothing wrong with being a hippy dude. We was changed when we went away too. Great vid. Not a fan but will be checking out some zero bikes this year.
Thanks Carlos, yeah I’ve had quite a few issues with the GoPros over the years, but the quality of image and stabilisation is second to none.
I’m doing a few experiments at the mo and it seems that using proper GoPro batteries and absolute top-spec ultra fast SD cards direct from SanDisk (because there are so many counterfeit ones on amazon) is giving faultless performance - at the moment! 🤞👍
Another great video 🖒 opened my eyes to the electric motorcycle world. It looks great fun riding around sounding like a scalelextrix
Honestly bud, I 100% recommend anyone to have a go on one, they’re great fun 👍
@@teapotone I'll try and get to my local dealership see what they have🖒🖒
Morning Bruce. Loved the vid. That's set me up for the day ahead.
Morning Ian, great stuff bud, glad you enjoyed it 👍
I cannot possibly wrap my head around an electric motorbike. But you, TeapotOne & TMF are strongly disabusing me of my ignorance. 👍🏼 👏👏 😎 🇺🇸 🌎 (You guys make that look fun)
It is bud, honestly I was dreading it tbh, but they’re REALLY a lot of fun to ride.
Try it 😉👍
Enjoyed that review, Bruce. Great stuff!
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Ginger 👍
Excellent video, loved it! I really should go and test an electric bike myself
Thanks Rutger, glad you enjoyed it bud. I hope you do go and test ride one, they are a lot of fun 👍👏
TP1 with regular uploads :) Glad you're back!
Great to see this video super impressive I think I’d struggle with no noise but bloody brilliant video
Cheers Robert, glad you enjoyed it 👍
I really enjoyed your video.Thanks for that!
Greetings from a Dutch Energica Eva (2017) rider.
As you say they are getting better buy the week still to short a range to be a serious every day bike but 2-3 years I reckon 150 miles easy and a lot more points to fast charge then I think they will be a proper alternative great video keep em coming Bruce 👍👍👍
Cheers Dale, the 2020 range of Energica’s already have a MINIMUM range of 150 miles but it’s a 40min fast dc charge time 👍
Another great vid Mr, it's good to have you back on the tube.
I was originally looking at zero srf but after finding out all Zero extra features which are already installed but stuck behind a paywall with extortionate prices but now I've just discovered Energica and now eyeing up esse esse 9+ and the fact it has DC fast charging is massive tick ✅️ in my box
All perceived negatives busted! Love it
Thanks Vee, there’s a way to go yet before they’re a real alternative to combustion, but it’s making leaps no bounds.
Glad you enjoyed it 😉👍
It's amazing to see the progress electric bikes are making. I hope that one day charging points will be as common as post boxes and that someone somewhere will come up with and "Old Style" electric cruiser. Though sadly as that may take a decade or so, I'll be well into my 70's or beyond before that particular dream comes true. So for now I'll stick to burning dinosaur bones. Keep the video's coming, cos as Tony the Tiger used to say, "THEY'RE GREAT..! 👍
It takes a lot less effort to install charging than it does a gas station. You'll see them pop up faster than you think.
I have an elec car, increasing issue with multiple charge point suppliers is you need a different app and or card for each one. Need all to be pay as you charge. I guess that will come, once bikes become in the 10k bracket will be interested for sure. Definitely will be looking at that calimoto app.
Aye that’s something I came across with this test bud, WHICH app should I get - or do I download all of them and create accounts in each! 👍
When on your next electric bike ride, I would say to down load zap-map which currently is the most up todate app to help you find charging points, depending on what power connecters the bike your riding at the time.
Tom tom bike sat nav allow you to choose alot more options for your ride, similar to the calimoto app you used on this ride. Check out canadas new electric motobike called Damon, I think you will like it. Interesting there are currently more charging points than petrol stations in the uk.
Thanks Darren, cheers for the info bud 👍
Hi teapotone, nice review! You could have fast charged even shorter , I noticed your amps setting was only 65A(20kW), while you could have dialed up to 80A (26kW) at 27:27
Hi Sjerp, yeah someone else contacted me and said that too, I didn’t even know you could do that!
Thanks very much for the info bud 🙏👍
Haven’t searched through the other 322 comments, but I guess the sensible thing to do would be to plug the phone into the USB port right at the start of the journey. I’m staying on petrol bike for a few more years, but next car will be electric, and then maybe my final bike
I definitely wouldn't mind owning one as a second bike. But I don't think it would ever replace the old combustion engine for me. There are way too many good feelings that go with a petroleum guzzling motorcycle.
Yep I pretty much agree with you there bud, but they are LOADs of fun 😉👍
@@teapotone it certainly does look fun 😂.
Not for me. After riding the SR/F & Eva Ribelle, gas bikes now feel slow to me. I’ve been ruined by that infectious instantaneous torque and don’t want to go back!
Fabulous video Bruce. The best I've seen so far on electric bikes and you have answered a lot of questions in one video. I was an absolute NO until I watched this, now I am a...maybe just maybe. Well done.
Ha Ha that’s great to hear and thanks very much for the feedback!
Honestly bud, take one for a wee spin and see for yourself. There’s absolutely nothing to fear from them, they are different to riding petrol bikes, yet incredibly similar but with their own characteristics. Well worth having a go 😉👍
Compete noob here. Got told of on my CBT for letting the clutch go (like you would in a car) 😂 I used to love driving manual cars and be quite proud of my ability to do so, but I'll tell you what, I've had a decent automatic for about five years and I would never go back to manual unless I had to. And to think I use to take the mick of the yanks for only driving automatics 😂 Can't really afford an electric car right now, but an electric bike might be somewhat achievable 🤔 Great vid. Great beard. They hate us cause they ain't us 😂
So mate ur permanently on Code 11! Good for you fella, im watching this on code 4, Anyway mate i heard from the CHIS that your playing on an electric bike and thought ill have a look and yeap its opened my eyes to electric motors now! Thanks for the vid ride safe pal.
Oh im liking you not being at work. Haha. Blessing in disguise?!?
Lovely edit, informal. Makes me want a electric bike.
Unfortunatly here in the sticks of northern sweden its gonna take some time to get those charging points everwhere.
Great vid. Keep em coming!
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it. Be interesting to see how infrastructure develops to accommodate an increase in demand 👍
Excellent. I'm impressed.
Thanks bud 👍
Nice vid bud! You’ve got 2 choices for increasing your range, either strap a solar panel to your helmet, or, to re-charge with static electricity, a crocodile clip on ya beard! 😉😉
I think you nailed it there! I’ll give Energica a bell 😉👍
Great to have you back Brucie 👍🏻
Thanks bud, it’s awesome to be back 😉👍
Great review Bruce.
Thanks Chef👍
Great video, Bruce. Glad you are back. I like the concept of the electric bikes provided the electrical energy you are 'filling the tank' with is from proper clean sources. However, apart from the limited range, lengthy delays to journey with charging and lack of infrastructure ... the questions I have are: 1. What does the difference in air temperature have on power of the cells? This is a factor in all standard, NiMH, LiFe, LiPo, etc. batteries and can severely affect available power. 2. Price ... would these bikes come down significantly in price as more and more people adopt them? 3. What is the service cost, i.e. the cost of replacing the battery pack, maintenance internals for other components, etc.? 4. How are these battery packs recycled/disposed of? What impact is there on the environment? [in fact, the same goes for cars too] 5. How much is the range affected by taking a pillion and luggage?
All great points there Jay, and a few which the industry just doesn’t seem to want to address - battery disposal/replacement, environmental impact etc.
Something I have noticed with the release of the new 2020 range is that Energica are now saying the battery is good for around 1200 cycles @ 80% capacity. So if you used the bike say 5 times a week then the battery will last around 240 weeks - roughly 5yrs. The battery has a 3 year, or 31,000 mile warranty.
It’s certainly not perfect, but the improvement even on when I made this vid last year are staggering.
Still lots to improve and deal with though 👍
Great to have you back Bruce. Smashing Vid and must admit some preconceptions have been smashed about electric bikes. When the inevitable time comes when we have to swap out for an electric bike i will miss the sound of the engine. That whine from the bike just isnt quite the same. I thought you had an ambulance following when you first started out. Great Vid tho Bruce. All the best 👍
Ha Ha yeah it’s a noisy bugger isn’t it!!
Thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed it bud 👍
I don't know man , I just do not know. Improvements with regards to charge time and range are on the rise, but not yet even close to petrol . I like going to filling station with my Versys 650 and filling time for 5.5 gallons is about 40 seconds + - and 250 mile range. Filler up and go. More time riding , less time waiting. Great review , and happy to see this is now your full time gig .
Cheers Paul, yep I’ve said this for a while now, until they crack the convenience factor, people will just not take up electric unless it becomes the only option.
I think if they make it like the interchangeable batteries you get for power tools, where you arrive at the ‘gas station’, take the battery out of your bike/car and replace it with a fully charged one, pop it in and drive/ride off, then that’s a very viable solution.
We’ll see 👍
@@teapotone now that is a great idea. Be safe and again I am psyched this is your full-time gig. Cheers 🍺
Great video - and good to see someone showing how practical and easy charging is. I swapped to an electric car a little while ago and wouldn’t go back to petrol or diesel now. Seriously considering changing one of my bikes
i wonder what effect having the lights on at night will have on range ,, perhaps if they where LED it might work ,, great video
But the lights are on all the time bud? Only thing extra would be main beam. I’ve had a look on their website and can’t see if the lights are LED or not, I should’ve looked when I had it for testing, apologies 👍
@@teapotone I'd be really surprised if they weren't LED.
LED lights shouldn’t affect the range at all. They’re usually ~15 watts each for headlights and much less for rear and indicators (about 5 watts). The motor draws 11.7 kw/hr. K=1000. So it’s a massive difference.
Love the channel and been watching for over 5 years and inspired me to do my own RTW trip. Currently in Veracruz Mexico riding an Africa Twin from Canada to Argentina, living my life. But Bruce please can you sort out the beard! Now your unemployed, your starting to look more and more like a hobo and needs a trim fella.
Content great as ever but one more winge - do we really need to see all the shout out's? Is starting to distract from what your saying.
Keep up the vids and great review as always. Cheers
I think the Energicas are offered with a larger capacity battery now.
Yep the 2020 range have some staggering range claims - I think the minimum is around 150 miles!! 👍
Yup! 21.5kWh Enérgica’s now have a max range of 400km/250mi
Yeah I’m not convinced this will deliver in real world terms though, I reckon half that is more realistic 🤷♂️
Awesome if it does 👍
teapotone I know what you mean- totally depends on speed and riding style, just like on a gas bike. My FZ-07 *says* it can get 58mpg but I average closer to 35-40 based on my hooligan riding style and need to launch like I’m on the starting grid at Misano at each light lol.
If I were to twist gently and ride conservatively I’m sure that 58 mpg is doable, just as sure as that 400km is possible if one can resist the urge to twist the grip quickly when the road opens up or there’s a long sweeping curve.. but where’s the fun in that 😄
@@teapotone The new battery has 60% more capacity, is smaller in dimension and a tad lighter. Really impressive progress if you ask me. The weight saving has to come from the riders for the time being :-)
Great video Bruce and great look at the future of biking, looks like an addictive power delivery 😀
Thanks bud, aye they’re loads of fun to ride, can’t recommend it enough. Still not quite there enough for me to totally switch over to EV but I’m certainly not full of doom and gloom about the prospect anymore 👍
enjoyed that thanks m8 😜👍
Liked and sub’d. Stumbled upon this video and first one I’ve watched from you. Great commentary and enjoyable to watch. I look forward to seeing a video on one of the newer 21.5kWh Enérgica’s - Thank you and keep up the great content 👍🏼
I can imagine that quite a few businesses may offer free recharging to their customers in the future, e.g. supermarkets, cinemas, hotels, etc.
That’s something I hadn’t even considered, but you’re absolutely right bud 👍
Might help bring back the high street for a while.
20 minutes for an 80% charge? Hmmm. Wouldn't it be great if bikes had their own built in power stations that you fuelled with....I dunno, petrol maybe.....and all over the country you could have petrol 'stations' so that when you run out you can buy some more and be on your way again in 2 minutes? :-) I know, I know, I'm being sarcastic and quoting Clarkson. Great review! I'm still clinging to petrol power for as long as I can though.
You DO need to change you'r mindset to use electric for sure .. but is too hard ?? NO not even a little. with the Energica's you can fast charge and the range for now isn't perfect BUT it's surely ain't the worst.
Plan your trip and charging won't be something you use time on .. more like you find someplace to stop to enjoy the view, have a cup of coffee, a pie break whatever and while your there you charge your bike and suddenly you have traveled more than 200 miles without thinking about needing to "fill" up the bike.
Its all about changing your mindset ... same with a normal EV example "Tesla" and do things differently ... in the end you use less time standing about fueling your bike/car than you do with petrol.. all I'm saying ... though you DO need to be able to thing in a different way ... ...
And YES the RANGE do still need to come up but tech takes time specially when people don't want/like it..
You should try Patagonia on solar panel ....
Marconi forks ....got a laugh ...
Great review ...thanks for posting
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Those roads you didn't know existed are near my house :-)
I am starting to come around on those things. It is the future if we want it or not. I really can’t wait what the new series from Ewan and Charley going to be like.
Yeah that’s going to be very interesting isn’t it
Great real world review bud. The only thing I would point out is if you add the cost of the snacks every 60ish miles the cost will get much closer to running a petrol bike, also in no time at all the electric bike will be carrying at lot more weight!! 😂
Ha Ha that’s a very valid point 😂👍
An electric powered GS now that would be interesting for sure and a viable option for a daily commuter or tourer👍
Watch this space bud 😉👍
would certainly be able to carry a weeks worth of battery power
Just downloaded the calimoto app..very good. Just what I needed for the Sunday spin.
Great stuff, yeah I find it just brings a bit of enjoyment and sense of adventure to your same old riding area - all of a sudden you’re riding roads you don’t normally go down, or haven’t been on for ages. Just a wee bit of adventure 😉👍
Love the electrics. They're fun. But there lots of variables to sort out before I'd buy one (especially in the US)..
Awesome video mate. Btw, the phone has really small battery. Please has any test of the Energica Experia been planned yet? Keep up good work :)
Wow I'm moving to Kent the weather looks amazing!
Much better in Spain 😂
I test rode a Zero police spec “trailie” style bike in Phoenix AZ. Those blue and red lights work a treat in traffic...
😂😉👍
Oh and for precision navigation, meeting someone, or emergencies take a look at an app called what3words
20 mins is fine. No prob with that. The only thing against this bike is the cost in my opinion. Add time goes on they will get better and better
I wonder if electric scooters/bikes could be fitted inter changeable batteries and you could swap them for fully charged ones? It would work in theory lol,not much hanging around and you're off again !
Interesting video again 👍.
That’s exactly my thoughts on it bud, would work a dream wouldn’t it
@@teapotone it would need a fair amount of planning but I would consider one if it was possible 👍
The more EV's on the road, means more people charging, which would lead to queing for the charge points and if the average charge takes 25mins like the bike in your vid, the que would start to get pretty big, unless they start to fit 10x more charging points at filling stations, so i think we're a long way off from where we need to be at the moment, unfortunately.
I'll stick with the good ol ICE motors for now. 👍
Unlikely. The vast majority of electric drivers and riders charge at home, these DC fast changers are really meant for topping up on tour or for the odd local renter without a garage.
Haw bruce another stonkin vid big man, do you think the detail on the bike screen a wee bit too weee ! Other than suspension what a decent bike ! Long term ownership n resale values too early too guess i suppose. Keep up the good work J
Cheers John, aye it’s still early days bud 👍
Great video Bruce
Thanks again bud 👍
Cracking intro, hope it all works out going full time YT
I remember quite a bit of that route from my Advanced refreshers and had forgotten how utterly beautiful it is out there. If you want some fun on the twisties let's see you tackling a few of the invisible 90-degree bends (and the flying straight on into some fields) on the marsh :-) Great video, Bruce.
How is the high pitch whine over the long run? My old Triumph Tiger 800 XC had a distinctive whine that, after a few hours in the saddle, became bothersome; even over the internal combustion engine exhaust growl.
I honestly didn’t mind it, was having way too much fun! 😂👍
Got a Tesla and love the Electric car, but the range on the bikes is way to short at the moment. Will keep my GSA1200 for a while yet. The price for me to charge that at home would be £1.05 with Octopus energy.
Cheers Ian, always good to hear from folk who actually have and use EV’s to get the real world perspective 👍
That app is perfect 👌 can’t wait to try it out. I never know where to go for a ride and when just winging end up disappointed with my road choices.
Yeah it’s perfect for just that, brings a wee sense of adventure right to your back door 👍
Glad see these electric bikes about on the market but 50-60 miles of range does seem poor. I guess they are designed with commuting in mind rather than a long weekend ride out.
The 2020 range of Energica’s and Zero bikes have now been announced and they have staggering increases in range - from 150 to 250 miles in a single charge!!
Nice vid TeaPot; a very interesting proposition and as you've said, it's coming along big time. I think if you're in the South East/London then you're really on for a winner. Did you see Richy's vid on the bikes they tried?
I saw the vid where he and Gaz tried a few different bikes around where the English Electric Company are based, looked like they enjoyed themselves 😂👍
@@teapotone that's the one. The whine from the chain did Richy's head in but your assertion that it could be useful in traffic is a very good one.
Excellent stuff, im all up for it. Its gonna happen anyway. Embrace it i say.
Hey Teapotone
Love your Vids, and that calm voice, keep up the great work
Noticed you said the Sidebag's was clunky ... was something wrong or was it just not tightened correctly?
I'm looking into getting an Energica EVA Rebelle myself though will still be some time cause of small money. Only getting my license this summer so I know its not the perfect bike for me but Electric has gotten me hooked badly now :) so for me anything better than normal fuel is what I'm going for sadly batteries ain't light so can't get a good beginner bike that's easy ..
Though still Electric is much easier than normal to learn to ride on only the weight is the problem and more so for a small person like myself :)
oh and for the SS9.. it sounded like you had the small battery ..
EVA EsseEsse9+ City: 400 Km - Combined: 230 km - Extra-Urban: 180 km now, I only got the "KM" here but its not hard to convert it to whatever you peeps use ..
Range for me is only a problem on highway where I'm seeking a range of 2 hours between 10 and 85 % at aprox 120 km/h this will be within the fastest charge time and when we get to that point no one can really complain anymore ... oh and charge time from 10 to 80 is a max of 15 mins in my plans ...
All will get better when we get the SSB's or similar .. till then we just gotta keep helping where we can to get it better ...
For now Energica is the best eB out there,
Btw you don't need charging cables with you on the Energica as charging stations have them
Great video Bruce but I just can't get my head around electric bikes because of where i live in the west mids. We have only 4 charging points in total in a town of 29000 population. Even if you only said 15000 vehicle needing charging, can you imagine the queues!! We are still struggling with 2g phone masts never mind 5g. Good luck with your new venture mate.
One of the biggest appeals (I imagine) of an EV is its stupendously low running costs. Unfortunately the initial cost is currently obscene. For the last 6 months I have been commuting 110 miles a day and have done so on my Honda NC750DCT. Going steadily I have now got to the point where I am achieving 100mpg every tankful. I'm not against an electric bike, BUT....they need to be comparable to an ordinary bike to buy in the first place before they start selling in any serious numbers......
Absolutely, or the only option available. I’m not sure how they’re going to enable the transition yet🤷♂️👍
Nice one Bruce, but I fear you have been down south for too long :) Out in the sticks in Kent!! Think of a trip from Dalwhinnie to Kyle (140 miles) and when an electric bike can ride that route as it should be, then they will be main stream. Thanks for the channel and I'm off to join the clan.
Ha Ha aye I know Tim, I’ve been ‘Southernised’! Thanks bud 🙏👍
Should say, no axe to grind, but you hit the nail on the head with the infrastructure is not there yet. I watched a 'Harrys Garage' video recently and he had a right faff trying to find a charging point on the way into London, from I think Oxfordshire? !! The thought of getting from the Midlands to Gijón just fills me with dread...last thing I want to do is spend more time getting to the ferry.... then...what's it going to be like when your on your way from Leon (say) to Potes.... just sayin.... jeez I nearly ran out of petrol twice.... and my bike will do over 200 miles to a tank full ....:-)
Aye that’s a valid point Paul. I’d like to try a big trip on an electric bike to see where we are at just now
Bruce, great to see you back with a vengeance. Biking aside, I like the improvements to your abode mate!
Enjoyed that Bruce nice one buddy! Still fighting the gopro?😂 stick a power bank in your jacket pocket, and connect it to the mic adaptor, and record all day long👍😜
Cheers Shaun, I don’t like to just hit record and leave it for the day, I’d much rather just record as and when I want to for my vid stuff - makes editing so much quicker and easier! Too many wires as well, it’s already a big enough faff 😂👍
Great Video Bruce, maybe electric is the way things are going but I still prefer the smell of petrol, Calimato is good, but i usually use it to plan round trips then export the gpx for the satnav as I've had problems with Calimato not catching up with where I am, keep em comming Bud 👍👌
Cheers Gaz, glad you enjoyed it bud 👍
Great video. Apparently, there are now more electric charging stations in the UK than there are petrol stations.
I’d believe that, they’re everywhere!
Can’t embrace the electric era just yet ,but we all need to be realistic as it’s coming soon enough , very worried about the big tours and how that’s all going to work , but I was Amazed and impressed at you finding a charging station so close to where you were , that was one of my concerns , maybe we all need to learn to chill out drink coffee and do less mileage in a day , I do worry about how the government are going to manage the lost of revenue (tax) from petrol and diesel ,that has got to be passed on to the motorist somehow ,so ultimately I don’t think electric motoring will be any cheaper than petrol , , we have 10/13 years to embrace and it can only get better 🙁 🤓i wonder how long the batteries will last and the cost of replacements that is if you can replace them 🤔🤔 great video it’s a topic we all need to be aware of ,thanks 👍
Thanks Brian, and they are all concerns we share for sure. There’s not a chance governments and big business will lose ANY money from whatever the alternative energy is going to be - in fact they’ll ensure they make even more money from it I’m sure.
But as you say, it’s coming whether we like it or not, and I do think you’re right about us having to make compromises and changes to what and how we do things, not just in terms of biking.
It can all seem so desperate and sad, but the human spirit will ALWAYS seek out the ‘adrenaline junkie alternative’, so no matter what it is we end up riding, it’ll be fun! 😉👍
teapotone amen 👍
I'd just be concerned ref battery life Bruce with fast charging all the time before the batteries need replacing? Keep up the great content 👍🏍
Thanks bud, according to the Energica website they say the battery is good for 1200 cycles at 80% capacity👍
When's the RTW electric trip??? 😁⚡🔋
The new models this year have an increase of battery capacity of about 30% to over 21.5kw, which takes the range to over 130miles a single charge. I much prefer the Eva Ribelle and once I clear my debt (15 months to go) I'll be getting one. And with 50KW charging available on the fast chargers its still 25 mins to fully charge
The Ribelle looks amazing doesn’t it, and yes the new Energica’s are a massive leap forward in terms of battery capacity and charging for bikes 👏👍
@@teapotone its the first time ive fallen in love with the look of a streetfighter as im normally more of an RT/K16 person. Only thing is change to make it perfect is make it belt or shaft drive
Yep totally agree there
It’s great , I would love one but problem too expensive to buy??
Sounds like a 1970s milk float 😂😂
Shame really that instead of realising the full potential of the battery back then they much rather transitioned to diesel vehicles instead of researching and developing longer range electric vehicles. Imagine where the trucking industry could be today if companies hadn't chosen the lazy and cheaper diesel solution to solve that problem in the 70s
@@2nd3rd1st Yep, once the diesel engine milk floats appeared, it was a guaranteed early start to the day.... There were battery powered vehicles back in the 1800's, but vested interests made sure they were never allowed to reach their potential...
Hi Mr Tpot
Enjoyed the vid. Not sure electric for me at moment but guess we’ll all have to get used to in the not too distant future.
Cheers Ninja 👍
Hey teapot anything with two wheels has to be good 😃👍
Absolutely bud, if it puts a smile on your face, then all is right with the world 👍
@@teapotone yes mate just got home from a ride on my vfr750 had a great time. Good luck with your new venture
Morning Bruce ..... well my mate and i done what your thinking one on electric me on my GSA. The zero done 60 miles cost 3.08 35 mins to charge. The GSA in 68 miles as had to fill before 5.70 took 3 mins ready to go. Yes cheaper yes the price will go up. But stopping every 60 to 80 miles for 30 to 40 mins will start to piss you off plus all that food you start to eat lol. So first stop 3.08 plus coffe 2.95 and sandwich meal deal 3.50 = 9.53 so if every stop you just get coffee your talking 6 quid per 60 miles 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Aye all good points there Chris 👍
It sounds like a milk float! Not having a clutch I see you found a good use for your left hand :-p (selfie Stick).
I've been doing something similar South of Paris but just randomly turning left or right at junctions depending on what the road looks like or what I can see in the distance. I have downloaded Cali Moto and it's already produced an excellent route for me. It's a great little app. - *thanks*
Great stuff Farkles, glad you’re enjoying the Calimoto app too 👍
Thanks for the review. You did stop and buy ludicrously expensive electricity! Thing is about practicality, it depends on how you ride. Vast majority of journeys in the UK are under 10 miles, and if you can charge at work you can double the range for a daily commute. The issue is the initial cost
I subscribed to CaliMoto based on your recommendation from one of your prior videos. Amazing app/website on bike or if you must, in a car.
New to the channel, love your review, makes me wanna buy this model. Just a bit shy of funds....like £20.000 😆
Excellent video and great channel :-) I am struggling to see how Electric Vehicles will have a future. As it is one has to queue at most filling stations in the UK to get petrol or diesel. I wonder how it's going to work if you have mostly electric vehicles and they want to charge it at a service station. How long are you going to have to wait your turn to charge your own vehicle and then the time charging it? Before you know it you will be spending hours of each day trying to charge your vehicle and that's certainly not practical. Where is all this energy going to come from for the huge demand and how much is it going to cost us in the long run? Another worry is how long will the batteries last before they need replacing? Can you imagine you and 10 mates go out for a ride and you all need to charge your bikes and there are only 1 or 2 chargers available? Another issue is most people don't have a driveway at home or they cant get parking outside there house so how are they going to charge there vehicle other than at a filling station? Way too many uncertainties and not enough Colbolt on planet earth so unless they come up with a new source it's dead in the water!
I absolutely 100% agree bud and have said all along that I don’t think electric is the way to go or indeed the final solution, for the very reasons you’ve just pointed out.
However, one thing is certain. We will HAVE to move to an alternative energy source of some kind in the not too distant future, and it may well be the case that personal travel as we know it no longer exists. It may well end up that it’s just not possible for everyone to have their own car or bike, or maybe we’ll be rationed to a certain amount of energy to use per week?
Who knows?
Personally I think what ever the energy source is going to be, they have to make it interchangeable in order for the masses to adopt it - like the batteries you get for power tools.
You rock up at the service station, take the dead battert/power pack out your vehicle, take a new/charged one and slot it into your vehicle, pay your money and go. Boom, it’s quick and it’s convenient.
Right, that’s that solved, let’s move onto religion and politics next 😎😂👍
@Xtreme Flyer I don't know about that, there is a tendency all over the world to go all electric. Then there is the fact you can't fill up from home with petrol, electric is present in each and every household. For now most outlets take in 240volts and needs to be converted into DC. However three phase is the norm really, that is what your local industrial estate uses. Most of mainland Europe is already equipped with it. Those electric induction stoves work on that principle, all it takes is one more cable in the box and you will have 400volts
Compared to petrol, more households have electric than households having a petrol outlet in their house, don't you think?
That’s true, but not everyone would be able to get their electric out of their property and into their vehicles - assuming they don’t have a garage or driveway so park in the street or away from their property 🤷♂️
@@teapotone that is true, however it is also true not every household isn't connected to the grid. Those would be better off using solar as source, unless they live in the northern and southern latitudes, when there is no sunlight reaching an area it wouldn't be viable. Those would be better served with petrol and hydrogen in the near future. As always it has to be a mix of all of them. And that will/could involve nuclear, be that fusion and/or fission, sure there are problems with it but, the adagio has to be 'we could work on solving those problems, let's do science'.
What I, and most of the scientific world, see as an inevitable transition to electric. If only because we have squandered enough of those precious few drops, not to make the world a better place, nut we probably need it for those chemicals which makes the world go round and round.
Ah well, it is a right old mess when you think about. Probably because I do think about it I react the way I do. Sorry for that, can't help it 🤔🤗