[EU4] Nation Spotlight: Milan - The Power of Infinite Re-Elections
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024
- In this video I take a look at the nation of Milan and how recent changes to the game allow for effectively infinite re-elections, generating tons of monarch points.
Here are some other tips that didn't make it into the video:
Merchant republics are pretty bad as of 1.19, so I don’t recommend playing them if you plan to get big. You also shouldn’t play as an Administrative Republic, as they have elections every 5 years instead of every 4. If you want to play any given nation as a republic, your best option is to become an Oligarchic republic, which is available via decision by taking Influence and Aristocratic/Plutocratic. You can also become an Oligarchic Republic if you gain a second province as a Free City in the HRE Your lategame government should be either a Constitutional Republic or a Revolutionary Republic
The Ambrosian Republic has one small drawback to generic republics: it’s can’t change manually to another government type. I’ve found 5 ways around this. First, you could just collapse your tradition and become a monarchy. Next, if you want to reform a republic, you can take Influence and Aristocratic/Plutocratic to get the decision to go into an Oligarchic Republic, and from there you can change into a Constitutional Republic when you get ADM 22. Third, if you want to become a monarchy without collapsing tradition, you can switch your culture to Tuscan. This will put the “Form Tuscany” decision in your back pocket, which turns you into a despotic monarchy and allows you to switch to other monarchies. You can save this for when you need it. Note that forming Italy no longer automatically makes you become a monarchy. The fourth method is waiting to 1700 and getting revolutionary rebels, which should turn you into a Constitutional Republic directly. Finally, you can wait until 1750 and become a Revolutionary Republic by spawning the disaster as you would normally. This is the path I chose.
An alternative strategy to using the Strengthen Government option is to float your RT (Republican Tradition) around 40-50. Most republics get an event on average every 10 years that gives you 20(!) RT for the cost of 1 stability. Milan’s Ambrosian Republic gets a special variant of this event on average every 5 years. This event will fire if you have RT below 50, and you shouldn’t collapse to a dictatorship if your RT is above 40, making this a balancing act. The drawback to saving mil points is some bad events for lowish RT, and having to live with the normal effects of lowish RT (notably giving +100% increased stability cost)
Hindu republics are overrated. Yes, you can change your personal deity when you get a new ruler, but frequently swapping rulers to get minor buffs is detrimental to your overall power. You’d be far better off retaining rulers and just taking policies with the points you’d save.
The Dutch Republic got nerfed some patches ago. Normal republics following this strategy are now superior to them.
You really shouldn’t bother trying to get the Tenures Abolition Act policy. It saves you less than 2 monarch points a year compared to Strengthen Government, forces you to go through really awkward maneuvers to get it, and cannot be easily cancelled if you get close to 100 tradition. You’ll probably end up wasting far more points from RT overflow than you’ll ever save with it.
The Formalized Scales, Weights, and Measures policy is irredeemable garbage and should never be picked.
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The Monarch point distribution chart was taken from Meshkent:
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The post that inspired this video is here:
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-my ear
Time to try Milan
This channel deserves more subs
Shh. I don't want my friends to find it so I can appear to be awesome at EU4 in our MP games.
Donglin Huang Want someone play with me EU4. Steam name Woiwode Tepes
benefits of being a republic.
no regency councils can stop a world conquest.
no pretender rebels.
sometimes your monarch just sucks low or unbalanced monarch points.
the merchant republic sucks, government however the most op government type is definitely the revolutionary republic.
Alright
Dude, you are a legend. I always wanted some fun strats with unexpected countries and you are the perfect guy for that. Try explaining the ternate strategy. I couldnt figure it out on reddit,
Ilanapo ternate is one of the easieste countries as you can always face just one equally strong enemy and not care about AE. the one Trick that is pretty good early is establishing a temporary colony once your spy network is high enough, since you can claim off of those then just abandon.
Kill Tidore no cb makassar...
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alright
Culture swap to Sulawesi, too. For two reasons, one all of the cultures you'll be conquering are in that group, so you'll have an easier time converting and, eventually, they can become accepted once you become an empire. Two, it allows you to form Malaya for the achievement.
Seriously best eu4 content that currently exists.
So, you are basically a Spirit of the Law for EU4?
Long live AoE2!!
This is great.
So, I'm convinced, real excited to play, fire up a game and everything goes smoothly. I get myself access to the coast through Lucca, Albania of all countries makes Venice return Brescia to me out of the blue, France, Austria and Castile are all allied to me.
Something... something seems a bit off though. That cool ambrosian republic you mentioned? Turns out I need either low legitimacy or no heir to get it. The Duke turns 60 and has a kid, which I then disinherit as soon as it gets old enough. He turns 70 and has another kid, which, again, I disinherit. What does he do when he gets to 80? You guessed it. Of course, now he finally decides to die, leaving me with a twelve year regency, since naturally his Queen Consort died just a year before.
When the kid is grown at last, he immediately fucking dies in battle. I thought, cool, sweet Ambrosian nectar here I come - no heir, no duchy.
Nah, but France wouldn't like that. Personal union that bitch.
By the time I had fought myself out of that shitty union all by my lonesome since everybody and their mom loved France (the reason why I was able to secure an alliance with both Austria and Castile at the same time as France), it was 1520 already. I was about to declare the war with England and Poland on my side to fuck them up, when France decides it's best to leave me the fuck alone and breaks the union, leaving me with the worst ruler I've ever come across. He's completely legitimate in the eyes of the public of course, so, after living through another 30 years with that guy, making him a general, sending him into battle after battle after battle, it was 1550 and the event for Ambrosia... well, that shit won't fire after 1550.
So, that's my story of playing Milan. Thanks a lot. Just kidding though, I had a lot of fun actually. Love your videos.
For the glory of Mil---CRAP NO THE UNION!
Erm wait, I had an heir at the age 15 when my ruler died, he was a 5 5 4. At that point my heir became the ruler but I could also relect him every 4 years. So I had a young guy at the age of 23 with a 6 6 6, that was pretty awesome. Your heir becomes a democrat when your ruler dies if this wasn't a glitch lol.
I think the reason your heir became the leader was because he was of age, unlike Jan's.
Jan Massey Holy Hell! I NEVER got that!
Jan Massey It's 1490 in my game and I too don't have the ambrosial republic. Also France PUed Castile so Ima try and get a PU on France
I really think your channel is THE best EU4 channel, i just want you to know that.
But ... DDRJake! ^^
Fuck you have the same picture in here that I got on Steam
In my Milan game (no cossacks dlc) I got an alliance with France and they immediately went to war against Aragon and called me and Castile in. I basically did nothing and then when they got to like 90% war score I separate peaced out for transferring Naples to me. I had just taken the age bonus to do so. Best thing is the AE wasn't even enough to form a coalition against me and now I had almost all of southern Italy early in the game. Mopping up the rest of Italy was quite easy.
Edit: It was around 1470-1480
Just finished a Milan game I started because of this video. For the first half of the game it seemed like I could never catch up, but man, once you get do finally get enough tradition to get that 6/6/6, it all just falls into place. Quality strat.
How would one go about converting to Coptic as Milan?
Drilling down through the Mamluks seems like a fairly unwieldy way to go about it.
Just drill through the Turks seems simple enough.
Conquer a coptic province and let the zealots convert provinces, eventually accept their demands by changing your national religion.
So yeah, go Egypt or go home
ITS ALL ABOUT THE ART OF NO CB CIRCASSIA AND THERE ARE SOME COPTIC BOISS RIGHT THERE IN ARMENIA MMMMMMM
My Eu4 dream is WC as Judaic Germany. Guess why)
@@alexeyamosov664 mine is a world conquest as the jewish golden horde xd guess why :)
Milan is the best Italian city-state and can easily form Italy by 1550
Ryan Rusch i easily formed Italy as Florence in 1540 So it’s not the best
I think it's Venice.
Its the easiest but naples is F U N.
F uck aragon
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N fuck everyone who allies some 2 province minors who never get vassalized
@@sanskaarkulkarni1036 Venice has to wait for Shadow Kingdom to fire, and then has to pray that Genoa or Milan or Florence don’t stay
@@shardtheduraludon but da trade tho... you can get sooo rich as venice
The content that you make is A++++++. Thank you so much for making in depth videos on all of this. It just makes the game so much more interesting to know every oddity that you can take advantage of. Keep it up!!!
Will you do a video about an army composition ? (At least in the near future)
P.S.
Your videos are great !
I'm planning on making a series of tutorials on all things related to the military in EU4. I'll cover army comp in them. They're on my medium term to-do list.
Thanks for the reply !
Reman's Paradox yo dude why did you delete your ryukyu world conquest? I know that you are remaking the video but it got recommended to many eu4 players and gave you a large amount of subs in a smal amount of time. If you had just let it stay up you channel would be far bigger right now right?
everything you need to know, on how 2 build your army is on the mil page in game
-frontline size and flanking range...
early game 4 cav, than ~ +2 cav / mil tech that buffs flanking range, watch out for your nations ideas, eg kasan etc get higher flanking range
know how much cav you can have without suffering dmg penalties, you deal more dmg with more cav obvs.. but its general tactic to only have as much cav as your flanking range is even tho you dont suffer the penalties with a few more cav - benefits of lesser cav / army : - less maitenance, less refreshing cost after battles, lower neccessary supply-limit of provinces ( especially in the early game!)
ofc, for hordes this doesnt count ;-)
DeathColor96 did it have spoils? i'd love to see a 3 mountains by Reman playing fairly, nowadays it seems almost impossible without spoils like that used by florryworry. what's the point playing very hard if you cheat?
Thanks so much Reman, I have ~760 hours in EU4 and had never even tried republics. But after seeing this video I gave Milan a go, and my God it was a lot of fun. The Ironman journey from Milan->Italy->Roman Empire was quite honestly the most fun I have ever had in an EU4 campaign since my First Ever campaign(way back when it was still Base Tax not Development) as Brunei into Malaya(if you're wondering why I chose Brunei for my first time it was because I'm an idiot, they were on an Island and I wanted to see how mechanics worked, and Europe looked scary). Again, thanks for this Reman, you earned a sub.
"Europe looked scary"
Looked?
Look at this map and tell me it doesn't strike fear into your heart. www.hoeckmann.de/germany/index.htm
Your videos are really nice and informative. I've been playing this game since it's been launched but listening to your explanations made me get a better grasp of trade,institutions, etc. Keep it up, your EU4 knowledge is unparalleled.
Have to say, I really like how you're giving Milan the spotlight it deserves. I started a campaign as them about a month or so before you made this video and it was by far my most enjoyable one
dude, i just love you. You bring high quality Eu4 Videos every 2-3 Weeks or so. Always having a blast learning something new from you,keep up the good work!
Honestly, I could never minmax a game this hard, but it always makes me happy to see someone take an underused or underrated feature of any game and play it really well!
This is pretty neat. I like your video style as well, as it is well-paced and provides plenty of interesting information.
I subbed after watching 30 seconds of a video. Watched the rest of it, great vid.
I've seen a lot of eu4 videos on yt so far, mostly tutorials.. but yours are by far the best
I would very much appreciate a video about Venice and it’s surprising power. I know you haven’t uploaded in awhile but a return to video making would be great.
Reman, you are the best! You always shows the blind spot! you really deserve more subs.
Man I love your videos. They are very informative, and great subject matter. I can't wait for more.
Extremely interesting video =)
If you ever feel like making other country guides I'd love that!
Your video on institutions is also very instructive. You are gifted at teaching others!
First time watcher of your videos. Must say that I love your voice. Its very soothing
how come that i never knew about ur channel? ur my fav youtuber from now on
My milan playthrough was one of the most fun i've had with EU4... that was quite some patches ago though.
With the new Innovativeness feature, your point costs get even cheaper. Plus, with your 6/6/6 ruler, staying ahead of the curve to get that sweet sweet green ooze is pretty easy.
This has inspired me to start a new Milan play-through today! I would love more nation spotlight videos in the future.
Milan is my go-to these days and has been for a while, so seeing this video in my suggestions was pretty cool.
Milan got the Burgundian inheritance in my game
What? Lmao
I have 3 problems with your advice for staying in the HRE ( 9:40 ) :
1. Why not helping the Emperor to reign the provinces in? You can add territory as a member. (Or does it not count? I've never bothered with the Shadow Kingdom Event) Especially with protestant Milan, you would get 0,5 prestige per month from holding Rome.
2. You can't become the Emperor as a republic.
3. How do you change the culture to a non Italian? I mean from a strategic point of view. Which provinces would you recommend conquering?
Wow dude, this is such a great video. Very good work !
i really hate doing this, but i need people to play EU4 with, mainly because i cant for the life of me figure out how to beat the steppe factions (kazan) as muscovy.
great video btw, this channel needs more subs
Thank you for making me so much better than my friends at this game.
There is a bonus which you can activate completing espionage and one other idea group (I can't remember which one). This bonus gives you -25 mercenaries maintans and +25 available mercenaries. This bonus with administrative ideas and Milan's ideas gives you a huge armie of cheapest mercenaries in the game. And there is an event for republics which happens when you have less than 50 traditions, that event makes you lose 1 stability but gives you 20 traditions!!! So it is better to keep traditions more than 40 and less than 50, because an event which returns you to monarchy happens when you have less than 40 traditions.
I like your spotlights. I was super excited to turn on a spotlight playlist and just watch it through. Alas, there are only 2 :P
how do you conquer northern Italy so fast without getting murdered by a coalition??
vassals?
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Having a lot of neighbors puts you in a good position to take advantage of excommunicated rulers. That lets you force-vasalize people for half the usual AE. Proximity to the Papal states and the Catholic majors means that your neighbors will often wind up rivaled to the papal controller, so this is a more frequent occurrence than you might expect. Perfect for taking over neighboring princes of the HRE without coalition problems. In my Milan--> Italy--> Rome game, I got Florence and Savoy as vassals very early thanks to excommunication.
people dont give a fuck about milan... i had to conquer the whole naples from spain just to get any1 of significance to join a coa against me... and then again they never capitalized on it, coz i had france and ottoblob as my daddies and papal states as my most loyal ally(also had monferat as vasal to which i forcefed savoy and switzerland)...
I think Milan can conquer some non-HRE provinces easily. I had more trouble with coalitions as France than with Milan tbh
Start by focusing on not getting murdered and generalize the concept to all circumstances.
Fantastic stuff as always. Well researched and clearly explained.
You slightly bias the point generation by not including the negative effects of events that give you RT. The trial is -120 for example.
The trail one is worth it you get more for it then you pay thats not bias i count that into he strenghten goverment button
In my calculations I also didn't include the points you should gain from not losing stability on ruler death. I expect they should approximately cancel out.
There's an event that trades 20RT for -1stab or 1stab for -20RT too when your tradition gets low.
keep your tradition above 70 or the game will screw you over.
Playing as Milan to Italy to Rome was probably one of my best campaigns in terms of fun.
You deserve so much attention in the paradox community for your videos.
I already tried 3 different Milan runs and I cant ally Austria. What do I do to avoid unlawful territory?
My 3rd run, my ally Savoy went to war with Genoa and the Papacy. I got stackwiped. And the Swiss declared war on me. Then I quit that run
As a milanese I think we shoulded re-elect our last mayor but well...good video Reman!
Please, keep making these kind of videos. Great channel :)
i love these nation spotlight videos they're really good.
Make more nation spotlight videos! They are insanely informative and helpful to new players like myself.
Would be interesting a version of this video with Dharma government mechanics.
Why would you ever go Milan when you can go with the fresh prince of Sardinia-Piedmont?
You make some top quality videos and guides, my good sir! Respect and greeting from the Netherlands. And BTW try to start as Milan and proc the Burgundian Succession and form Netherlands, its awesome.
gotta agree milan is great I had this one game when I went with a monarchy in milan got my dinasty on the throne of france and hungaria. then I claimed the throne of hungaria and solo'd them and then I turned around to claim frances throne. I went on the form the HRE and eventualy conquer the world.
Oh god, this strat becomes even crazier with the inclusion of absolutism. Boat loads of mana and massive admin efficiency is crazy.
Couple quick questions: How can I convert to Coptic as a European Christian power? (And, is Coptic really better than Protestant if I have no plans to expand into the Coptic Holy Sites?) Thanks!
*First Question*
1.Conquer toward any Coptic provinces--AQ and QQ by the ottomans, or down toward Ethiopia.
2. Set missionary maintenance to 0. Begin converting the new province(usually before coring to ensure separatists do not fire first). Tank stability if you have to to get missionary strength down. Let the rebels spawn (Coptic zealots).
3. Now, recall missionary and send to any province that has unrest. IIRC, the rebels will now spawn as Coptic zealots as well. Allow the rebels to convert country to coptic. At 50% of your country seized under rebel occupation, you will break and become Coptic.
Tip: Do NOT seize these back, do NOT allow allies military access to your country, do NOT allow them(rebels) easy access to your capital. Rebels may*(Edit: I am pretty certain they WILL, but still, do not bet on this) avoid a significantly larger military stack for a nearby unoccupied province.
Pro(ish) Tip: Go to war with a simple country you can sit on for a few years (a one province minor with no allies for example). This allows the rebels to control more than 50% of your country without >>automatically.
Excellence video dude, but one thing I picked up on is you saying that becoming Emperor will remove the modifier for staying in the HRE, whilst it is true, it won't apply to Milan as Republics cannot be Emperor.
My friend and I were playing eu4 the other day. He was in C.A and I was Milan. I formed Italy by 1600, and my friend was really confused when he saw Italy land in the New World almost a century before Italy is usually formed. I love this strat.
If you do Innovative + quality and pick the "modern firearms techniques" policy you get something like 40% Infantry combat ability. Doesn't sound like much but it let me stack wipe 30k stacks sometimes
Playing and Italy and starting as Milan was also for me my funnest playthrough. At the beginning you are tiny but strong and you can literally do everything later.
Currently in a Milan game with Meiou&Taxes : issue with Ambrosian rep is that you are stuck at Duchy governement rank level the whole game...
How about a game which is a guide to the Dutch? That would be really cool. Thanks for this video, I'm getting the itch to play Milan again and take over Europe!
You make really good videos! Keep it up!
You should mention "Guelph-Ghibelline Feud in Milano" event. It is really good.
Great guide neverthless. Milan is my favourite nation to play.
So I did this campaign a few patches ago. It turned out to be my most fun and chill campaign. O went ahead and formed Italy unifying my culture. After that I was doing a lot of role playing. Actively fighting for my allies, trade wars, using client states and marches to extend my power (North Africa, Greece and Aragon). Only taking a few provinces at a time. I built tall, all my provinces had min 25 dev and I developed my subjects too. I had a life long enemy of the Ottomans and eventually France who betrayed me. Funding revolutionaries, and fighting to free colonies (the one time I took espionage) I never took quantity so alone I didn't have the largest military but went all out for quality, trade and navy.
Awesome video man! But i have a question, every time i try to play as milan i find myself surrounded by nations with strong allies (for example france, austria etc) so i really dont have a lot of opportunites to expan. did you struggled with that problem too?
It's very common problem in Italy. But usually italian minors have some other allies, not so strong as France or Austria. Also you can use opportuniti of being great power - force to dissolve alliance.
Timur Grachev thank you man, I've always struggled to play in Italy, and i never formed it, but i will try again
do a video about elective monarchy and Poland/Commonwealth
No idea group can be called unusually strong without any form of core reduction, sadly.
_influence ideas_
TheRealXartaX just form Italy. Presto huge core reduction
wilkic2
Italy has quite strong ideas. Not like... the absolute best, but definitely top tier. That's not the Milanese ideas anymore, though.
Prussian ideas don’t have reduced CCR
French ideas don’t have reduced CCR
Polish ideas don’t have reduced CCR
But I do agree that any idea group is made strong by CCR
I really enjoy this channel
I was really excited about the strengthen government option for republics when I saw it, but mistakenly thought 3 per click was much more often than this.
Another factor to consider with Milan/Ambrosian Republic is the special event that can fire if you get below 50 RT (Guelfs versus Ghibellines). Not sure it's worth hanging around at low RT to milk this event though, now that you can reliably build up and maintain high RT by using Strengthen Government + military doges.
Milanese ideas or Italian Ideas? The tech & idea cost reduction along with development cost reduction is very nice as Milan.
Italian ideas to blob, Milanese ideas to play tall
Did you ever think to possibly do economic and plutocratic idea for the increased republican tradition? I think that's the ideas at least.
And would that help some of the other republics that don't get some of the Milanese bonuses?
Yay, a new Reman video! Awesome!
playing in italy is realy fun, my favorite playthrough was with montferrat, reforming the roman empire.
I hope you kept the Palailogos dynasty;)
Unfortunately, this only works with RoM. Makes me sad, really.
The Existence We'll just have to wait until the price of RoM drops in a sale or something, I guess.
Or just pirate it.
Or you could just work for a couple hours and buy it now? How many 100s of hours of enjoyment are you going to get out of those 2 hrs of work? Seems like a great deal to me.
as a student you don't swim in money mate
student too. isthereanydeal.com or something can give you a good pointer for some sweet bargains on the dlcs. its fucking paradox. shit's on sale almost all the time.
Every country might be OP. Starting position only makes it easier. The true thing, that can be OP, is player's mind. Would destoyed Austria still be OP or a mighty Sardinia-Piedmont going for an Italian Ambition, that started from little Savoy?
OK got a simple question when do you use the button to give you 3 RT and how many times to you click it. Should you only click it once ever election or what? I am sure this was applied in the video but was just not sure. As clicking clicking it multiple times might be a waste but when you first flip in a few of my games you start with pretty low rt and with a slow start it's a bit hard to get Power projection up. Thanks and loving your videos.
Could you do the same as venice? Austria always love them and venice is hostile
Because of this video, just started a Milan game and converted to Ambrossian Republic! Edgy, but exciting... Venice and Genoa allied against me... oh well, I guess taking Ferrara's 2 provinces in one war will do that to you.
Good strategy for Milan. Think I might try it out.
wow, thats an awesome country, I just finished campaign with it and I ended up with italy , balkans , egypt (some arabia) , bit of turkey, south france, east spain coast and whole india. thanks for recomending this country :)
I love these videos!
Can you make a video on generating revolutions in your country and another's?
Your voice is sweeter than DDRJake's
I could picture Reman running like a coaching business for EU4. $20 a session I'll make you great XD.
Currently happening in FIFA. Will it happen in EU4?
Well done! Most informative!
This strategy basically works with all republics, no?
I mean i could do the same thing with venice
How do you feel about countries with +RT ideas? Like Hamburg and Novgorod.
Have I misheard your pronunciation or do you always say Europee-Universalis? I love your videos by the way!
Personal I think Geno might be better for blobbing since while the don't have the best ideas and development compare to Milan, they have better expansion potential by their position and their missions so you are not just constantly waiting for AE to go down in one area and just expand elsewhere.
What makes the Ambrosia Republic better than all the other republics?
Hey, great video. I would love to see you play Caddo or Milan.
I'm playing as Milan and I'm stuck, if I declare Venice Austria will join, if I declare on Savoy France is their Ally and if I declare on Ferrara Hungary is their Ally and my only allies are Bavaria and the pope what should I I am a mediocre player
Can't you go to Genoa, Siena or the swiss? maybe even allying Savoy and offering swiss land
@@guiguigugu1 they put me as a rival but when the shadow kingdom came I was strong enough to beat Austria
Reroll?
can you do a nation spotlight of florence/tuscany?
It's this for every republic or just Milan? (or easiest for Milan)
Great video. You could also form Sardinia-Piedmont, if you want to play something that "never" appears in Ironman games. (Needs Lombard culture and Corsica and the Lombard region). Be warned, though the colour is somewhat blinding xD (You can later form Italy if you so choose).
Also: Why do so many say morale is so crucial early game? To my (extensive) experience, it is quite the opposite... it's more important late game, while discipline is more important early game (again, in my experience)
Next video you should show off Revolution republics
what are the expansions that are worth buying in eu4?
Is this strategy still viable after the introduction of absolutism? Going republic and all...
seperb quality like always!
I know this is really weird but could you do a Kiev Spotlight?