Lemme add first n formost; tht. YOU WERE AMAZING TODAY😍.. AnywayZz, i'd like to see more of the trigger points between the two personalities in the future videos... cause i believe tht "the key to the useage of WISDOM for SUCCESS, is ADVANTAGE"☝... And i think this is gunna help INFJ's alot and bring more of the best out of them in terms of relationships, i also like the way you went into dept to portray tht by talking about your childhood around your family compared to now... once again; AMAZING girl.. Keep Growing gurl. Luv YA. -Marlon
Gave you feedback on the last video you release announcing this series. On another note entp are probably some of my favorite types. Literally could talk for hours on end about interesting topics.
I really enjoyed this update. I refer back to some of your older videos pretty often so I was excited to see some updates. I'm really interested in some insight into INFJ vs ENTJ. This is a personality type that I really struggle to understand and it creates a lot of turmoil in my life. Also I would like if you could elaborate a little more on SE and how we can strengthen.
Thank you for sharing your experience with your father. It helps so much to hear this and to see that difference of before and after. Living authentically and being able to show ourselves can be so difficult and to know that there are those who just want to see who we are and it will change the whole experience! Thank you! This resonates so much.
My Dad is also an ENTP and I’m an INFJ. I’m 20 now and I’ve always been so closed off to him my whole life and we never truly understood each other until I let down my barriers and let him in. Now we are like BFFs and he’s my favourite person to be around
As a parent you want your kids to be the person you wanted to be. It takes time to understand that they are their own people. Once you realize that it totally changes the way you “parent” them. Your kids have you in them but they are not you. It is hard to learn as a parent. When you do, and change your “tactics” you will see your children flourish!
Interesting. I'm an ENTP who was raised by my ISFJ aunt and I have to say, I think the most rewarding thing a healthy relationship with your parental figure, especially those that represent your ideal, is that you sort of get a jump-start in self-development. I was lucky to develop my Fe and Si at a young age as while it doesn't eliminate all the caveats that came along with being ENTP, it surely made it easier to solve and understand the issue.
I like how you described the INFJ/ENTP interaction on a personal level giving an example from your own life. It helped paint the picture better by giving a visual illustration. Other videos (which I also appreciate) can approach it more from a technical perspective using all of the terminology and such to describe the interaction. However, sometimes I just want to see what that technical stuff "looks" like in real life. Another layer to learning more about "how to deal with xXxX," is wondering if I have typed the person correctly to begin with. Part of the reason that I start off as "kind" without putting myself out there first is I don't know exactly what type the other person is yet AND as a result what this relationship will need. Ibthink that's an INFJ thing as well.
Before watching this video I chose to review the first one. That one was good, but this one shows so much growth and it's wonderful to see how far you've come. I like the way that you come back to the idea of setting boundaries. (That's something I know that needs to be done but I have to keep reminding myself.) You took responsibikity and adjusted your expectations while staying faithful to your own self as well.
Hi Wenzes, I love this topic! Yes, give the ENTP feed-back, they have a thick skin and will respect you when expressing your boundaries or thoughts. I know a happy ENTP (M) - INFJ (F) couple and these are my observations: Ne vs Ni and Se vs Si can lead to frictions. Ti-Fe can provide a synchronized wave-length which can help to connect. - ENTP's are all over the place (Ne jumps from tangent to tangent) while INFJ's drill deep in a singular topic (Ni). So ENTP should do effort to follow a single track of thought and INFJ needs to be flexible to switch lanes. (Typed this before Wenzes mentioned it but will leave this comment as my wording is a little different). - ENTP's want to talk all the time and the INFJ doesn't like to interrupt. ENTP's, please try to shut up sometimes and listen. INFJs try to be more assertive, Ne is OK if interrupted and interested in other ideas. - Most ENTP's like to argue about everything. If it escalates, the INFJ wants closure while the ENTP wants to move on and ignore what has happened. So talk to each other until the issue is resolved. - INFJ's like to project their vision upon others (not only with ENTP's but in general). Like Wenzes explains in this video she wanted her dad to behave like an ESTP. ENTP's (and other types close to an INFJ) can spend a bit more time on thinking about their own future growth path and share their thoughts with INFJ, while INFJ could do an effort to accept others as they are.
Yeah! I think I've had an year or so of an encounter with someone who feels a lot like an INFJ and in the end things went sideways. Too much like me to the extent where that became an huuuuge issue, for her a lot more than for me I guess. But it was a person who didn't like the idea of being put into four letters because that meant a BOX and there was some crazy preoccupation with that and I couldn't quite fathom it. I failed to explain how MBTI and other suchlike systems are tools for self-exploration, not something that labels you... I've learnt so much about myself through the materials about INFJs that I've gone through so far that my head is spinning :D
wow this will help me a lot with my entp because i do approach things in a passive way which gets me nowhere. It was very confusing for me, but i guess i expected him to read my mind or just know because things seem common senses to me but you’ve painted a vivid picture for me. #Boundaries #Feedback got it girl
this is so interesting. i am an infj and all my estp relationships were distant and flakey. my gma, uncle and someone i dated. i looked up to my uncle because he always did what he wanted, when he wanted but, he was never there for me. my grandma was strong, independent and very social but, only saw things her way without thinking about others. having duals in family dynamics isn't all it's cracked up to be. nice video. i enjoy the entp infj relationship
Loved this video! My dad is an entp too so I understand this infj-entp dynamic. Luckily my mum is an isfp so the se world was brought to me a bit more. And maybe that’s why I’ve never really argued with her? I totally agree with the entp over stepping boundaries, and it’s hard for when you lack si to establish what is a boundary from previous experiences. I’ve noticed, when unhealthy my dad goes into a ti-si grip, making him believe it’s his way or no way. Useful video, I shall keep the idea of forming more boundaries/ clear distinctions in mind :) would love to hear some other types as it seems like you’ve really grown exponentially over the last years
I, an INFJ have an ENTP dad as well. Will be saving this video for future reference. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, very informative! Looking forward to learning how to set boundaries :)
I'm an INFJ and I grew up with an ESTP father my mom is an ISFJ. Growing up he was very religious and passive. I never felt protected. While my family looked 'perfect' I actually had a really rough time after the age of 3. As an adult I don't believe he is interested in self-development. He doesn't think nor feel like I do. Having both parents be S I don't fit in with my family. Nor my siblings. I've come to accept overtime. I am happy you are able to have a better relationship now. Thank you for doing this video.
Honestly, when you put up the poll I wasn't very interested, but after watching this video I really related to your story about you and your dad. I know see that this is a very important topic and I look forward to more videos like this.
Jesus, Wenzes! I love this series! I haven't seen your earlier videos, but these real gems! You're so incredibly insightful and you describe thing sooooo well! Amazing! Thanks a million! You know, I'm planning to make a video of what I learned and did thoughtout 2018, never done a video of me before, but I'm going to post it on my FB wall. Practicing my Se :D An INFJ challange for the year :D
Yes loved the connection you made. It's similar with me infj and husband entp. Ni and Ne can butt heads but I also think it can be a match if the other respects each other. We can both be very creative but in different ways! I would love to see infj and infj relationships next!
It's really not that hard to effectively combine Ne and Ni and they don't have to be ignorant of the other. They can combine their static and dynamic qualities and supplement the other, no problemo. People shouldn't believe in what they read absolutely when it comes to this personality stuff otherwise they may become convinced through the label that such label must be played up to or is insuperable. It imposes limitations that don't have to exist.
Now the other point of me being nice and the ENTP keeps pushing boundaries is something that I've experienced with an other ENTP and I didn't understand why he kept doing that until now 😐 .. Thank u I will definitely work on that
very interesting. I have a brother INTJ and another brother ENTP. ENTP matches in curiosity maybe. But INTJs are probably calmer and more peaceful to talk to.
Thanks, very useful information, in a way that this theory about boundaries could be true for ENTJ-s too, since they do not know about ethics boundaries, which i had most problem with. thanks
Actually, I didn't want to do Se things maybe for the same reason you're stating as well, but I think it's because I've always felt exceptionally inadequate regarding thing that were in the world of outside of me. So I preferred other people to do them for me, because I didn't want them to know I can't do them and see me as incapable. But once I started doing some of those things, I found out I can be pretty good at them and even better than people who seemed to be natural at them. I still feel overwhelmed by this most of the time, so I just use my moods to navigate thorught them, meaning that I postpone whenver I can, until a time when I feel I'm in the right state of mind to do the respective thing without it costing me a ton of energy I don't want to spend doing it in the first place.
Sounds like a great approach 👍😊 yes, overcome our fear of being inadequate and showing up anyways is a huge step in the direction of self fulfillment 👌
My ENTP dad was very similar. Just an ENTJ vibe. Workaholic, angry, assertive, active, and demanded respect. I think the worst part is that charm could be turned up to 11. "Your dad is the best" "Then you try living him!" Also INTJ younger sibling. lol My dad and me didn't vibe...at all. And I'm an ENTP too. We just butted heads...all the time. I might have been the only person NOT intimidated by him. And my poor INFJ mother was stuck with two ENTPs, and an INTJ. Both of them did some growing though. A lot easier to spend time with now.
I need to understand this thing that you described ISFJs and ESFJs as creating this environment of calmness through cleaning? Can anyone explain that to me?
Great explanation! I'm INTP but I see same dynamics with (young) INFJ. She is very polite all the time which is confusing. There is no feedback so I feel uneasy because I might do something "wrong". How to break that cycle?
Just tell her! She is being so polite all the time you can‘t tell she is holding something back...you won‘t get offended, you will accept her even if she says more what she shows about herself. Be honest about what you perceive about her; this will give her confidence to open up because she knows more who you are 👍
@@WenzesI definitely will. I think the problem you described applies not only to xNTPs. My ESTP friend was scared of my INFJ sister. I guess it was for the same reason.
As noted by the Socionics 4 dimensionality model ENTPs have stronger Se than INFJs. ENTPs Se = 2/4 D. INFJs Se = 1D. BUT INFJs value Se 4/4D. And ENTPs only value Se 1/4D when making decisions. So Se is higher on the INFJ's stack.
I like ENTPs and the ones I know I do feel that I cannot fully trust them as they don't seem to have loyalty :D well, not to the extent in which I perhaps like, yet somehow I accept it is part of their make-up (the ones I know) I appreciate the free-ness of them and the way they put themselves out there with little fear of what people may think (to some extent). The ones I know are reality escapers and seem to recklessly jump into things that perhaps are not doing them any good and so at times, I feel like the parent when around them. I have had some of the craziest experiences with them and although Extroverted, they don't drain me as much as other non-intuitive types.
What you conveyed In this video is very valuable. If u were to communicate this again without MBTI terminology it would really resonate with large percentage of people that have no knowledge of personality typing. For those that do study Meyers Briggs, it was perfect! I look forward to more, especially regarding INFJ and ESTP. My dad was an ESTP..As an INFJ male growing up with this , I ended up forcing my SE into the world in an un-natural (to me) way .. trying show the world they are wrong about what masculinity, especially whenever I sensed I was being challenged. I got into a fair amount of fights as a result . When I got into relationships with women who were drawn to this “SE” I was projecting I would quickly end up resenting them for it.. almost expecting them to engage this deep introverted well of thought and ideas without me giving the slightest clue of its existence. I actually expected to test as an ENTP when I first took MBTI (knowing nothing of it ), but when I found I was an INFJ and studying what that was and meant, the world opened up... Everyhting started to make sense.. point is, I really resonate with your story on how you learned to set boundaries and incorporate SE in your life (in healthy way). That’s the full circle I made as well.. but rather than starting out with minimal boundaries and scant SE I tried my hardest to be on the opposite side of that spectrum .. but working towards the same center.
Thanks Kevin! For me it was similar growing up. Can you give me some more feedback on the things you said first with the MBTI terminology? You mean I should have said INFJ and ENTP but explain more when I am talking about how the functions interact with each other?! Or you mean the whole topic? How would that look like?
Apologies for not going into more detail. One of those seeds of a thought that I completely understand immediately but need time to open it up to communicate to myself and others (if that makes sense lol). Spirit of it is.. the most important part of the video to me is the journey that your relationship with your father took over the years, and how it got to where it is now. The steps you took to better understand yourself and him were not easy , didn’t happen over night , but ultimately changed your relationship for the better. I believe that would resonate with a lot of women and fathers. Most do not know much (if anything ) about MBTI, but would understand descriptions of specific personality traits , how they clash , projected expectations, how you learned about your personality type , brief description of what it is .. but they may get lost if if too many Meyer Briggs specific traits like NI, SE, ect. are cited . Does that help at all ? Lol I prefer the format of your video, it’s perfect, but I get the feeling this is a great relationship story/message that could help more people than just the MBTI community.
Well the compatibility differs if the dynamics changed ) that’s mean if it husband and wife relationship it would have different results or impact in compatibility, and if its dad and daughter relationship it will be different and so in ....
You mentioned Se coming out thru Fe as potentially unhealthy, which I can think of my experiences that support that. Like channeling my intense advocate nature thru extreme measures (not good). And I'm trying to understand and implement better... So how is expressing Fe boundaries practicing your Se? Because you are protecting yourself? That still seems like Fe expressing Fi to me That's really cool that your relationship has improved significantly!
Thanks 😊 so I don‘t think that fe+se is potentially unhealthy just that it can intense. As an infj if you use Fe as a creative function, automatically there is SE in it as well! You can‘t really only use FE without SE (as an INFJ) it‘s always so to say in a combination. Isfjs for example when they express fe it‘s with combination of ne
@@Wenzes Interesting. So the distinction between healthy and unhealthy use of Fe and Se is to state boundaries and what I like and dislike (who I am) ASAP before it causes attachment issues like either avoiding or exploding on others?
What if you let the ENTP know your boundaries and he intentionally crosses them and you blow up and tell them you are hurt and they keep doing it? They like to provoke and get a reaction from me. They all do this.
I don't need to feel bad. It just shocks me outta my Ne, Ti loops. My Fe alone will be able to carry me, but my experience is my Fe was mostly used to survive growing up in an abusive home. Took time to develop it outwards to give others space and safety. For the longest time it was used to keep me safe in larger groups. Does that make sense?
Hi guys?! What is your take on this video?! What would you like to see more of in the next videos? Thanks for your feedback
Lemme add first n formost; tht. YOU WERE AMAZING TODAY😍.. AnywayZz, i'd like to see more of the trigger points between the two personalities in the future videos... cause i believe tht "the key to the useage of WISDOM for SUCCESS, is ADVANTAGE"☝... And i think this is gunna help INFJ's alot and bring more of the best out of them in terms of relationships, i also like the way you went into dept to portray tht by talking about your childhood around your family compared to now... once again; AMAZING girl..
Keep Growing gurl.
Luv YA.
-Marlon
Thanks Marlon 😀 highly appreciated 😊
Gave you feedback on the last video you release announcing this series.
On another note entp are probably some of my favorite types. Literally could talk for hours on end about interesting topics.
I want to see the deepest origin of your darkness, absorption and impact which probably is absorption can you talk about that.
I really enjoyed this update. I refer back to some of your older videos pretty often so I was excited to see some updates. I'm really interested in some insight into INFJ vs ENTJ. This is a personality type that I really struggle to understand and it creates a lot of turmoil in my life. Also I would like if you could elaborate a little more on SE and how we can strengthen.
Agreed. I’m an ENTP and I didn’t know boundaries actually exists
I would guess the INFJ-ENTP romantic compatibility is generally much better than INFJ-INTP.
Thank you for sharing your experience with your father. It helps so much to hear this and to see that difference of before and after. Living authentically and being able to show ourselves can be so difficult and to know that there are those who just want to see who we are and it will change the whole experience! Thank you! This resonates so much.
My Dad is also an ENTP and I’m an INFJ. I’m 20 now and I’ve always been so closed off to him my whole life and we never truly understood each other until I let down my barriers and let him in. Now we are like BFFs and he’s my favourite person to be around
As a parent you want your kids to be the person you wanted to be. It takes time to understand that they are their own people. Once you realize that it totally changes the way you “parent” them. Your kids have you in them but they are not you. It is hard to learn as a parent. When you do, and change your “tactics” you will see your children flourish!
Very true!
Interesting. I'm an ENTP who was raised by my ISFJ aunt and I have to say, I think the most rewarding thing a healthy relationship with your parental figure, especially those that represent your ideal, is that you sort of get a jump-start in self-development. I was lucky to develop my Fe and Si at a young age as while it doesn't eliminate all the caveats that came along with being ENTP, it surely made it easier to solve and understand the issue.
I like how you described the INFJ/ENTP interaction on a personal level giving an example from your own life. It helped paint the picture better by giving a visual illustration. Other videos (which I also appreciate) can approach it more from a technical perspective using all of the terminology and such to describe the interaction. However, sometimes I just want to see what that technical stuff "looks" like in real life.
Another layer to learning more about "how to deal with xXxX," is wondering if I have typed the person correctly to begin with. Part of the reason that I start off as "kind" without putting myself out there first is I don't know exactly what type the other person is yet AND as a result what this relationship will need. Ibthink that's an INFJ thing as well.
I would love to do videos like this too! 😉 just gotta see how they are being received 😊!
Exactly!
INFJ Plato and ENTP Socrates formed a Socionics pedagogue relationship. Always learning from each other.
Before watching this video I chose to review the first one. That one was good, but this one shows so much growth and it's wonderful to see how far you've come. I like the way that you come back to the idea of setting boundaries. (That's something I know that needs to be done but I have to keep reminding myself.) You took responsibikity and adjusted your expectations while staying faithful to your own self as well.
Thanks Linda! Glad you liked it 😊👍
Well, it is wiser to be grateful for the things you have. I'm sure I could relate to you in some way as an INFJ
Hi Wenzes, I love this topic!
Yes, give the ENTP feed-back, they have a thick skin and will respect you when expressing your boundaries or thoughts.
I know a happy ENTP (M) - INFJ (F) couple and these are my observations:
Ne vs Ni and Se vs Si can lead to frictions. Ti-Fe can provide a synchronized wave-length which can help to connect.
- ENTP's are all over the place (Ne jumps from tangent to tangent) while INFJ's drill deep in a singular topic (Ni). So ENTP should do effort to follow a single track of thought and INFJ needs to be flexible to switch lanes. (Typed this before Wenzes mentioned it but will leave this comment as my wording is a little different).
- ENTP's want to talk all the time and the INFJ doesn't like to interrupt. ENTP's, please try to shut up sometimes and listen. INFJs try to be more assertive, Ne is OK if interrupted and interested in other ideas.
- Most ENTP's like to argue about everything. If it escalates, the INFJ wants closure while the ENTP wants to move on and ignore what has happened. So talk to each other until the issue is resolved.
- INFJ's like to project their vision upon others (not only with ENTP's but in general). Like Wenzes explains in this video she wanted her dad to behave like an ESTP. ENTP's (and other types close to an INFJ) can spend a bit more time on thinking about their own future growth path and share their thoughts with INFJ, while INFJ could do an effort to accept others as they are.
Awesome points Taco! Very beneficial 👏👏👏 thanks for sharing with everyone 😊
Idea: INFJ dealing with other INFJs. I've learned that we may actually bump heads at times.
Coming up if the first videos are successful! 😀
Yeah! I think I've had an year or so of an encounter with someone who feels a lot like an INFJ and in the end things went sideways. Too much like me to the extent where that became an huuuuge issue, for her a lot more than for me I guess. But it was a person who didn't like the idea of being put into four letters because that meant a BOX and there was some crazy preoccupation with that and I couldn't quite fathom it. I failed to explain how MBTI and other suchlike systems are tools for self-exploration, not something that labels you... I've learnt so much about myself through the materials about INFJs that I've gone through so far that my head is spinning :D
wow this will help me a lot with my entp because i do approach things in a passive way which gets me nowhere. It was very confusing for me, but i guess i expected him to read my mind or just know because things seem common senses to me but you’ve painted a vivid picture for me. #Boundaries #Feedback got it girl
this is so interesting. i am an infj and all my estp relationships were distant and flakey. my gma, uncle and someone i dated. i looked up to my uncle because he always did what he wanted, when he wanted but, he was never there for me. my grandma was strong, independent and very social but, only saw things her way without thinking about others.
having duals in family dynamics isn't all it's cracked up to be.
nice video. i enjoy the entp infj relationship
Loved this video! My dad is an entp too so I understand this infj-entp dynamic. Luckily my mum is an isfp so the se world was brought to me a bit more. And maybe that’s why I’ve never really argued with her? I totally agree with the entp over stepping boundaries, and it’s hard for when you lack si to establish what is a boundary from previous experiences. I’ve noticed, when unhealthy my dad goes into a ti-si grip, making him believe it’s his way or no way. Useful video, I shall keep the idea of forming more boundaries/ clear distinctions in mind :) would love to hear some other types as it seems like you’ve really grown exponentially over the last years
Thanks Orla! Glad you liked the video 😊 Yes, I think I‘ll do all types in order to have a complete series...just probably won’t be all in a row 😊
Amazing...your eyes, coincidentally, match the color of your blouse! Thanks for all of your informative videos.
I, an INFJ have an ENTP dad as well. Will be saving this video for future reference. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, very informative! Looking forward to learning how to set boundaries :)
I'm an INFJ and I grew up with an ESTP father my mom is an ISFJ. Growing up he was very religious and passive. I never felt protected. While my family looked 'perfect' I actually had a really rough time after the age of 3.
As an adult I don't believe he is interested in self-development. He doesn't think nor feel like I do. Having both parents be S I don't fit in with my family. Nor my siblings. I've come to accept overtime.
I am happy you are able to have a better relationship now. Thank you for doing this video.
Surmized: Set firm boundaries.
Honestly, when you put up the poll I wasn't very interested, but after watching this video I really related to your story about you and your dad. I know see that this is a very important topic and I look forward to more videos like this.
Great, thanks 😊! I‘ll keep the other videos similarly: my experiences...and then we see from there 😊
damn girl..... this really makes me look back at my life. I always seek after ESTP traits in men.
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Jesus, Wenzes! I love this series! I haven't seen your earlier videos, but these real gems! You're so incredibly insightful and you describe thing sooooo well! Amazing! Thanks a million! You know, I'm planning to make a video of what I learned and did thoughtout 2018, never done a video of me before, but I'm going to post it on my FB wall. Practicing my Se :D An INFJ challange for the year :D
Awesome! Love the challenge! Go for it 👍👍👍👏👏👏 and thanks for your feedback 😊
Yes loved the connection you made. It's similar with me infj and husband entp. Ni and Ne can butt heads but I also think it can be a match if the other respects each other. We can both be very creative but in different ways! I would love to see infj and infj relationships next!
It seems that is the most requested video so far 😀 I‘ll think I‘ll do that one next 😊👍
It's really not that hard to effectively combine Ne and Ni and they don't have to be ignorant of the other. They can combine their static and dynamic qualities and supplement the other, no problemo. People shouldn't believe in what they read absolutely when it comes to this personality stuff otherwise they may become convinced through the label that such label must be played up to or is insuperable. It imposes limitations that don't have to exist.
My mum is infj , I'm infj .. And our relationship is sooooooo difficult .. My dad is ENTP and things are good between us .. 😂
Now the other point of me being nice and the ENTP keeps pushing boundaries is something that I've experienced with an other ENTP and I didn't understand why he kept doing that until now 😐 .. Thank u I will definitely work on that
Awesome! Infj & infj is coming up too if the videos are going great 👍😊
Okay I'll wait for it 😍
You're very humble and this is beautiful
Thank you. Makes sense. I am giving more feedback to people and it does help with relationships.
Thanks Sophie! Glad the approach is working out for you as well 👍👍👍
So you connected with him by seeing his extroverted intuition. You did this by using your extroverted sensing and being your more extroverted self.
very interesting. I have a brother INTJ and another brother ENTP. ENTP matches in curiosity maybe. But INTJs are probably calmer and more peaceful to talk to.
Thanks, very useful information, in a way that this theory about boundaries could be true for ENTJ-s too, since they do not know about ethics boundaries, which i had most problem with. thanks
Actually, I didn't want to do Se things maybe for the same reason you're stating as well, but I think it's because I've always felt exceptionally inadequate regarding thing that were in the world of outside of me. So I preferred other people to do them for me, because I didn't want them to know I can't do them and see me as incapable. But once I started doing some of those things, I found out I can be pretty good at them and even better than people who seemed to be natural at them. I still feel overwhelmed by this most of the time, so I just use my moods to navigate thorught them, meaning that I postpone whenver I can, until a time when I feel I'm in the right state of mind to do the respective thing without it costing me a ton of energy I don't want to spend doing it in the first place.
Sounds like a great approach 👍😊 yes, overcome our fear of being inadequate and showing up anyways is a huge step in the direction of self fulfillment 👌
My ENTP dad was very similar. Just an ENTJ vibe. Workaholic, angry, assertive, active, and demanded respect. I think the worst part is that charm could be turned up to 11. "Your dad is the best" "Then you try living him!" Also INTJ younger sibling. lol My dad and me didn't vibe...at all. And I'm an ENTP too. We just butted heads...all the time. I might have been the only person NOT intimidated by him. And my poor INFJ mother was stuck with two ENTPs, and an INTJ. Both of them did some growing though. A lot easier to spend time with now.
I need to understand this thing that you described ISFJs and ESFJs as creating this environment of calmness through cleaning? Can anyone explain that to me?
ENTP here. I don't mind being in a relationship with INFJ given they are a healthy type. Glad to kno
Great explanation! I'm INTP but I see same dynamics with (young) INFJ. She is very polite all the time which is confusing. There is no feedback so I feel uneasy because I might do something "wrong".
How to break that cycle?
Just tell her! She is being so polite all the time you can‘t tell she is holding something back...you won‘t get offended, you will accept her even if she says more what she shows about herself. Be honest about what you perceive about her; this will give her confidence to open up because she knows more who you are 👍
@@WenzesI definitely will.
I think the problem you described applies not only to xNTPs. My ESTP friend was scared of my INFJ sister. I guess it was for the same reason.
As noted by the Socionics 4 dimensionality model ENTPs have stronger Se than INFJs.
ENTPs Se = 2/4 D. INFJs Se = 1D.
BUT INFJs value Se 4/4D. And ENTPs only value Se 1/4D when making decisions.
So Se is higher on the INFJ's stack.
I like ENTPs and the ones I know I do feel that I cannot fully trust them as they don't seem to have loyalty :D well, not to the extent in which I perhaps like, yet somehow I accept it is part of their make-up (the ones I know) I appreciate the free-ness of them and the way they put themselves out there with little fear of what people may think (to some extent). The ones I know are reality escapers and seem to recklessly jump into things that perhaps are not doing them any good and so at times, I feel like the parent when around them.
I have had some of the craziest experiences with them and although Extroverted, they don't drain me as much as other non-intuitive types.
What you conveyed In this video is very valuable. If u were to communicate this again without MBTI terminology it would really resonate with large percentage of people that have no knowledge of personality typing. For those that do study Meyers Briggs, it was perfect!
I look forward to more, especially regarding INFJ and ESTP. My dad was an ESTP..As an INFJ male growing up with this , I ended up forcing my SE into the world in an un-natural (to me) way .. trying show the world they are wrong about what masculinity, especially whenever I sensed I was being challenged. I got into a fair amount of fights as a result . When I got into relationships with women who were drawn to this “SE” I was projecting I would quickly end up resenting them for it.. almost expecting them to engage this deep introverted well of thought and ideas without me giving the slightest clue of its existence. I actually expected to test as an ENTP when I first took MBTI (knowing nothing of it ), but when I found I was an INFJ and studying what that was and meant, the world opened up... Everyhting started to make sense.. point is, I really resonate with your story on how you learned to set boundaries and incorporate SE in your life (in healthy way). That’s the full circle I made as well.. but rather than starting out with minimal boundaries and scant SE I tried my hardest to be on the opposite side of that spectrum .. but working towards the same center.
Thanks Kevin! For me it was similar growing up. Can you give me some more feedback on the things you said first with the MBTI terminology? You mean I should have said INFJ and ENTP but explain more when I am talking about how the functions interact with each other?! Or you mean the whole topic? How would that look like?
Apologies for not going into more detail. One of those seeds of a thought that I completely understand immediately but need time to open it up to communicate to myself and others (if that makes sense lol).
Spirit of it is.. the most important part of the video to me is the journey that your relationship with your father took over the years, and how it got to where it is now. The steps you took to better understand yourself and him were not easy , didn’t happen over night , but ultimately changed your relationship for the better. I believe that would resonate with a lot of women and fathers. Most do not know much (if anything ) about MBTI, but would understand descriptions of specific personality traits , how they clash , projected expectations, how you learned about your personality type , brief description of what it is .. but they may get lost if if too many Meyer Briggs specific traits like NI, SE, ect. are cited . Does that help at all ? Lol I prefer the format of your video, it’s perfect, but I get the feeling this is a great relationship story/message that could help more people than just the MBTI community.
Love the recommendation! I really haven’t thought of making a video on a father/ daughter relationship 👍😀! Thanks
I appreciate all you do. Look forward to videos and maybe books to come!
Thanky you!!! 😊
All of this judging and narrow expectation and everything else, is truly utterly insane to me. Well at least that phase appears to be over.
Do you have a prefered type?
Well the compatibility differs if the dynamics changed ) that’s mean if it husband and wife relationship it would have different results or impact in compatibility, and if its dad and daughter relationship it will be different and so in ....
You mentioned Se coming out thru Fe as potentially unhealthy, which I can think of my experiences that support that. Like channeling my intense advocate nature thru extreme measures (not good). And I'm trying to understand and implement better... So how is expressing Fe boundaries practicing your Se? Because you are protecting yourself? That still seems like Fe expressing Fi to me
That's really cool that your relationship has improved significantly!
Thanks 😊 so I don‘t think that fe+se is potentially unhealthy just that it can intense. As an infj if you use Fe as a creative function, automatically there is SE in it as well! You can‘t really only use FE without SE (as an INFJ) it‘s always so to say in a combination. Isfjs for example when they express fe it‘s with combination of ne
@@Wenzes Interesting. So the distinction between healthy and unhealthy use of Fe and Se is to state boundaries and what I like and dislike (who I am) ASAP before it causes attachment issues like either avoiding or exploding on others?
I’m looking for a good website to take a personality test
I'm a little confused, there talk about ESTP and ENTP.
My fiance is an ENTP. Love this video. Only at the 16:08 mark so I'll finish it tomorrow. ☺
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What if you let the ENTP know your boundaries and he intentionally crosses them and you blow up and tell them you are hurt and they keep doing it? They like to provoke and get a reaction from me. They all do this.
About older videos: "...I can't even watch them..." come on :D
I can't...I'm just a different person...no disrespect to my older self :D just isn't me ;)
Wenzes well I took a lot from your older videos :) But I'm at the end of this one and have to say, good job! Thanks and have a nice day.
Thank you!!! 😊
Good luck finding an ENTP Woman 😅
Nearly Impossible...😢
So the ENTP needs to feel bad themselves in order to tend to your emotional needs. Where is the extroverted feeling function? Sounds like an ENFP
I don't need to feel bad. It just shocks me outta my Ne, Ti loops. My Fe alone will be able to carry me, but my experience is my Fe was mostly used to survive growing up in an abusive home. Took time to develop it outwards to give others space and safety. For the longest time it was used to keep me safe in larger groups. Does that make sense?