@@angrycinnabon2956 To be honest? IF some Unovan scumbag came by and threatened to kill my girl, There'd be my Aegislash through his chest cavity within 5 seconds.
He is 200% ready to kill some 11 years old. This man is even more messed up than Lysandre and Cyrus. Sure they were trying to get their own little world only for themselves...but at least they had some decency :')
@@yopi_yopiSpeaking of which, since we see Ghetsis with the dragon, we can assume that he might've killed N, as Ghetsis' team in B/W specifically counters N's team.
I think what makes Ghetsis more evil than Cyrus or Lysandre is that he's not impersonal. When they put you in danger, it's all for the cause. When Ghetsis puts you in danger, it's because he *hates* you.
Not only that Cyrus and lysandre didn’t try to kill you. Ghetis has a vendetta against you personally and tried to kill 3 kids! (Well 6 if you include both Nate Rosa hilbert and hilda and Selene and elio). The point is ghetis is basically Pokémon isis leader and took dark to a whole other level. Cyrus and lysandre at least had justifiable causes.
@@yoshpeters3079 now you tell cyrus' cause is justifiable if it doesn't even make sense. "I wanna reset the universe because it's not like I want.. and because I can"
@@yoshpeters3079 Nitpicking, but Cyrus and Lysandre were totally trying to kill you. Not directly, but as a casualty of the recreation of the universe / the ultimate weapon, absolutely
@@monopolyrubix1875 maybe so but it wasn’t a vendetta ghetsis wanted you personally dead. He was going to freeze you in 2 and watch as he freezes unova then you have permission to die like bane in dark knight rises. When unova is frozen and the region is mine you have permission to die. Cyrus just wanted an ideal world and lsyandre I believe.
@@HAZNAUT if ghetsis somehow became sympathetic after achieving world domination. Then that just wouldn't be in character. He was however planning on manipulating giovanni
This Ghetsis killed N. Yeah, he’s batshit insane. (Reference: Ghetsis uses either Reshiram or Zekrom, which N originally had, this Ghetsis succeeded, and part of his plan was to kill N.)
Considering that Ghetsis could've had both Dragons had they succeeded, I think N lives since he only takes one with him (After all, Ghetsis did only want to destroy N because of the player changing his mind if I'm not mistaken)
@@Cynastri But then again, we don't know if the othe dragon was awoken in that timeline. If it wasnt, i doubt ghetsis could have coaxed it from its ball form.
@@Cynastri i am pretty sure Ghetsis killed N since his team was fully built to counter N teams so that explains why he has one of the dragons I think what changed is something happened to the main character in that universe maybe Ghetsis reacted quick and had the shadow team dispose of us in the charge cave 🤷♂️ but its enough proof to let us know Ghetsis did interfere at one point
@@RetroShark360 “I’ve found that a man of pure evil is easier to control than a freak without a human heart…” N found out what Ghetsis was going and betrayed him. And as a result, he got what he never deserved.
Yeah sure, Ghestis threatens to kill Lillie in USUM. That's pretty bad. But y'all forgetting how he blatantly tries to get Kyurem to *impale* you with ice in BW2. That was real bad.
I both love and hate Ghetsis for this quality--in a roster of villains who are either likeable, sympathetic or some combination of the two, it's fun to have one villain who's just a reprehensible scumbag with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
You think sending him back to his dimension is fitting enough, Colress. HOWEVER, I DISAGREE. He should be a pile of meat ribbons, courtesy of my Aegislash. NOBODY hurts my Lillie.
Topkek Kek Elio/Selene: Did you kill him? Colress: Oh no I just rid him from this dimensions Elio/Selene: Oh thank Arceus Colress:JK yeah I killed him Elio/Selene:WHAT!
Ghetsis is still the only pokemon villain who I would call truly evil to the core. He's not misunderstood or misguided. He just wants power. All the power in the world that he can get his hands on simply to control everybody else. His deepest wish is not to create a more pure world, or solve a perceived problem, but to become a dictator.
I think Giovanni is more evil than Ghetsis. This guy threatened the President of one of the biggest companies in the Pokemon world- The Silph Co. Not only that, he did not hesitate to kill Pokemon..Remember that Marowak? The Cubone's mother? He went after one of the strongest Pokemon- Mewtwo so that he could one day rule over the world. He did not feel any emotions while treating his own son (Silver) badly in his childhood. All these facts state that Giovanni is a truly evil man. Even Ghetsis in Ultra Sun/Moon says that "Giovanni is a man of pure evil." "Now on which world shall I unleash my evil schemes upon?" All these things that I have mentioned state that Giovanni is more evil. Not trying to start a fight/debate...
@@deathscyther4530 Giovanni was just a mafia boss. Ghetsis was a deceptive evil mastermind that would stop at nothing to become an absolute dictator of the Unova region, He Raised N on lies to make him into a tool to get more power for himself.
I feel like Ghetsis is probably the more evil one out of the two. While the man doesn't outright kill pokemon, he still greatly abuses his own. His Hydriegon is the only pokemon owned by a NPC within the entire series that knows max level frustration, implying that he's abused it to it's limits. Not only does he abuse pokemon, but he also threatens to take the lives of many others as well. He threatens the player in Black 2 and White 2, using Kyurem as a weapon to try to impale them, as well as threatens to outright murder Lillie in USUM if the trainer doesn't release his/her pokemon. He raised his own son for the sole purpose of using him as a pawn to get a pokemon of immense power, all so that he could threaten people to release their own pokemon, so they'd have no way to fight back. On top of this all, in USUM, it's implied that he backstabbed N, possibly even murdered him, in order to get ahold of the legendary dragon after it's awakening. Compared to this, Giovanni is just a mob boss. Sure, he's threatened people, but so do many other evil team leaders in the series. Sure, he abused his own son, but so did Ghetsis.
All other Pokémon villains: “Oh the kid beat me, better give up...” Ghetsis: “NO NO NO NO NO! I will kill her if you don’t throw your Pokeballs aside right this instant! I AM ABSOLUTE PERFECTION!!! I CANNOT FAIL! IT. WILL. NOT. BE. ALLOWED!”
If I remember correctly, his japanese name is written "Gêchisu". Pronounced, that's pretty close to "Ghetsis" even though we would translate it as G-Cis ^^
That's what I've written, "ゲー" is Gê , the accent translates the lengthen sound represented by the "ー" (I don't have the true accent so I use a similar french accent ^^')
@@goldenhydreigon4727 You don't earn respect by calling someone a coward, then literally boasting. And don't say it was a joke or you weren't joking because yes you were.
MrAuthor3DS Ghetsis planned on using Giovoni like he did N. If he were to succeed, there would be little to no hope in stopping him. This man is UNHINGED, I mean Lusimine had a reason for why she was insane, cause of the stupid jelly frek. THIS MAN? He is just power hungry witj a God mind set. He thinks he sould rule everything and anything. Everyone and anyone. He'd probably usurp Arceus (in cannon) if he could just to become the ruler of all things.
How? Reshiram's high special defense along with the fact that it's neutral to Fairy attacks means it has no way of effectively dispatching Reshiram, on the other hand Reshiram thanks to it's big Special Attack and in combination with Blue flare and it's 33% chance of burning means Sylveon would be on quite a disadvantage here. Reshiram at best needs 2 Hits to KO Sylveon. Sylveon needs AT BEST 3.
Ghetsis: *sends out level 60-something Hydreigon* Me: _This time, I came prepared._ Me: *sends out level 81 Alolan Ninetales with perfect stats* Hydreigon: *one-shots it* Me: *?????*
Gonna be honest, I played USUM before playing Gen 5 and I had no idea why this music was so intense for Ghetsis, I played Gen 5 not to long ago and wow, this man is scary
I don't have a chance to play BW2, and found a comment that his Hydreigon... IS A PHYSICAL HYDREIGON, PHYSICAL!!! HOLDING A LIFE ORB!! MAXED OUT FRUSTRATION LIKE BOI, THIS DUDE IS BATSHIT NUTS
Going through the comments about the stark difference in reactions between Ghestis and the other Leaders after being defeated got me thinking. The others, seem to have more a sense of honor when it comes to Pokemon Battles. Like a duel between respected opponents they acknowledge your skill and accept defeat and it's terms. Each seem amused by battling such a young trainer being so strong. Each one comments on the 'what if' a person like you had existed in their world. They also seem somewhat more... content having completed their goals. More satisfied for the moment. Even Giovanni seems to enjoy your battle. Ghestis however, is not. He sees this as an opportunity to gain even MORE power. Why stick with one region, maybe even one world, when you can have many worlds? He cares not about honoring any terms of defeat nor is amused by battling such a strong opponent. You are just another obstacle to removed. Everything is just a means to an end, or a pawn to be used. Where the other leaders appear to have some sense of honor or standards Ghestis doesn't care. He only wants absolute power and will do anything to get it. Abusing and manipulating a child to become a 'King' through which you hold all the strings? Done. Plan to manipulate the mob boss that brought you here and make him your puppet? Check. Lost a battle and threaten to murder someone to get the winner to surrender? No problem. While there's no doubt the other team leaders are evil/misguided or crazy to some degree I think Ghestis is just straight up insane. To me that makes him the most terrifying to deal with so far.
@Orion Valentine this better be satire - all giovanni does is be called boss. Ghetsis literally tries to murder you twice. He goes to any end and at least Cyrus has some level of rational thought
Out of the bosses, it's Lysandre and Ghetsis, the former being that he strives for perfection, by adding real context more then a pokemon game give you, i feel he is more dangerous as a villain as he is completely sane while doing so, while the latter is quite the opposite, as he is completely insane, doing whatever he needs to do to accomplish anything. I've always assumed the other 4 bosses (excluding Lusamine) were more reasonable as men in power, less so with Cyrus as his reasonings as we know it is pure escapism from the reality a.k.a. the world is full of chaos (which it is after looking at all the end game of bosses in the whole series, but as for Ghetsis, take goodness Colress was there.
@Orion Valentine how is Ghetsis boring? He literally had one of the best storylines in the franchise. Cyrus, I get, but Giovanni is just some vanilla mob boss. There is no way Giovanni is a "next level villian".
His Reshiram would like to have a word with said fairy. Speaking of which, why does he have one of the hero pokemon. I thought Kyurem was the only legend under his control.
@@LordVanOskuro In the timeline where he came from, he killed N, to steal the dragon for himself. We can assume this due to the fact that his team perfectly countered N's team in B/W.
Ok... So basically: Black/white: "I will have N be the king of Team Plasma. But, for that to work, you-- since you know the truth-- You must be eliminated!" Black2/ white2: "this is my gift to you to show my respect for making it this far. I'll freeze you solid right here so you can watch my glorious ascent!" "Kyurem! GLACIATE!" USUM: "You, tiny intruder! If you value this girl's life, throw aside all your Poké Balls, at this moment!" Rated for "mild cartoon violence." SUUURREEEEEE
@@Xman34washere piers isint really a villain. There really isint a true villain in swsh, maybe shielbert and sordward . Rose does what he does for the greater good; good motives, poorly carried out.
Unlike Rick Astley, Ghetsis will give you up, let you down and also desert you. He will make you cry. He will hurt you. But he will never say goodbye. He always returns.
Like, all the other bosses' plans succeeding ended up getting them killed and their worlds destroyed by the Legendaries, but Ghetsis straight up won, and that's even scarier
@@kyuremthehomie123all of them stated shit went south after they won, Archie and Maxie regretted expanding the oven and land when Rayquaza came knocking, Cyrus got jumped by Giratina, and Lysandre destroyed more then he wanted
A quote from best girl Robert EO Speedwagon describes Ghetsis pretty well: “He is pure evil, right to his very bones! Is he a victim of circumstance you’re wondering? Not on your life! He’s been evil since he drew his first breath!”
The best part about this Ghetsis is he won in his dimension, I’m surprised he was as angry as he was when he lost, considering he was going back to the region he now ruled.
@@gengarzilla1685 yea your right Ghetsis would wanr more honestly wouldn't surprise me if he somehow was able to conquer Kanto and Jhoto at one point since Skyla is able to go to Kanto.
@@RetroShark360 I'm certain at some point he would have went after the sinnoh trio at some point as controlling time and space itself would allow him to become a multiverse level conquer.
It’s disturbing to me that ghetsis has one of the legendary dragons. Thinking about how he got it is worse. It gets worse when you realize that ghetsis’s team in black and white was basically a counter team he had built to defeat N, Zekrom and Reshiram specifically. In a universe where Hilbert/ Hilda don’t exist, there is no one to stop ghetsis from outright flattening N’s team and probably killing him as well to take the dragon he currently possesses.
Could you imagine the pokemon world under the reign of Ghetsis? Not only is he unstoppable, but he technically owns literally every single pokemon, and here’s how: In a world where Hilbert/Hilda didn’t exist, Ghetsis succeeds in his plan and uses N, the hero of the Unova region to convince everyone that owning pokemon is wrong. This movement later on spreads to the other reigons. Ghetsis now rules the land. Ghetsis now has every pokemon in hand, even the legendaries. If he wanted he could use any of the legendary pokemon to fulfill his desires. He could use Xerneas to give himself eternal life, or use Giratina to banish everyone who opposes him into the distortion world. What a scary thought.
Coolcat_tom, it is actually very likely that Ghetsis killed N in the universe where Hilbert/Hilda didn’t exist due to the fact that N sees his Pokémon as friends and wouldn’t allow Ghetsis to treat them cruely, as a result, Ghetsis kills N, so he can finally have the legendary dragon all to himself, and then eventually the world.
Ghetsis actually never stole N's Dragon. Hate to disprove that theory but in BW when N got his Dragon, Ghetsis was searching for the other stone to use for himself but they couldn't find it in the ruins in the desert because it was in Nacrene City. The Dragon probably saw him as someone who had a ideal and sides with him. He then CONTINUES to use N as a puppet and prepares to squash him should he ever retaliate. The main character doesn't exist so there is no reason he shouldn't find the stone and he has no reason to attack N since N is pretty much the guardian or champion at that point and a great figurehead
I gotta love how unlike the other themes of the bosses brought back for rainbow rocket, this isn't really a remix...This is a remaster, and it turned an already god tier theme into absolute perfection. Not to mention Ghetsis is MUCH. MUCH. more evil than all of the other bosses brought back combined, planned to overthrow Giovanni himself AND even boosts his already infamous track of attempts to murder children.
I like to think that his music is so similar to its Black/White iteration because Ghetsis himself changed the least out of any of the “victorious” leaders in Rainbow Rocket
Never played BW or B2W2 but this battle, his theme, and his evil character of tackling Lillie down and wanting to physically fight your trainer made me want to play those games now
If you do play them then be careful. Because Ghetsis is INSANELY tough, having a full team of diverse types that makes B/W's champion look like a chump. And also remember that gen5 has no Fairy types and the Unova region is very scarce when it comes to fast Fighting, Bug, Dragon, and Ice types (which that Haxdreigon can usually tank and OHKO back with its ludicrous movepool).
If you want to know anything about Ghetsis, he is the most sinister, evil, violent, manipulative, cruel hearted, and scariest villain ever, and he is in a POKEMON game. He attempts to kill you in B2 and W2! And he COULD HAVE SUCCEEDED!!!
I don’t even want to think about what that Hydreigon could have gone through. It’s Ghetsis we’re talking about, the man who has tried to kill children multiple times, was planning to manipulate _Giovanni_ after they’d won, abused N, and so on. Ghetsis does not give two shits. So to make his Hydreigon, which he clearly doesn’t give two shits about either, have maximum power Frustration... Heres a little comparison. Cyrus, another clearly insane man who attempted to destroy the world, had a Crobat. you require high friendship to evolve into a Crobat. I’m totally down to believe these Hydreigon abuse theories, to be frank. Poor dragon.
Out of all of the main villains, ghetsis is my favorite just by his character alone. Gen 5 had an extremely dark tone and it made for an experience unlike any other pokemon game. Team plasma had a goal unlike the other enemies and it was scarily realistic. Ghetsis's personality and idealogy were the darkest of all the main series villains and it was fantastic. Gen 5 is honestly my favorite generation because it brought so many new ideas to pokemon and it presented it fantastically.
@KSS Studios in BW1 When we first encounter team Plasma kicking munna the grunts panick saying "this is Ghetsis when a plan has failed" implying they know his true intentions & are literally in Team Plasma bc of Fearing Ghetsis would do something to them if they "quit" and they did with the help of N facing him.
In my opinion, Ghetsis is the most threatening villain in the entire series to date. He's been the only one to attack children with full intent to kill them, not to mention that he raised a child in a controlled environment in order to use him to take over the damn world. Sure, Lysandre had that machine of mass destruction that'd cause a mass genocide, but at least Lysandre was saddened by how many people and pokemon would need to die to make the world "beautiful". Ghetsis just didn't care. No regrets, even after his defeat.
Giovanni can still enjoy a battle even if he loses. Hell, Cyrus, who has NO emotion whatsoever, can still admire your strength and rotom. Ghetsis is someone who literally thinks he CANNOT lose, and he will be successful, he MUST be successful, no matter what. Only his own self mattered to him.
Pretty impressive how ghetsis manages to stand out from pretty much all other pokemon evil team leaders. He's practically an antithesis to all of Pokemon's core message, which is kinda fitting considering the whole point of team plasma is initially calling that core message into question. I like how he is also probably the only characther in pokemon who probably has sustained actual serious physical injury. We cant know for sure, but he might be missing an eye and an arm. Think about what that means for a characther in the world of pokemon. Ghetsis isint afraid to hurt you, even if it means getting hurt. And losing an eye and an arm didint stop him before. List of things Ghetsis has done: -Raised a child specifically for the purpose of befreinding a legendary pokemon and to beleive in a cause he thinks is bullshit -Proceed to tell that child they are basically disposable and that they are a freak (and other shitty stuff) -Possibly plan to kill that child because you have a team practically built to counter theirs and in the Rainbow Rocket encounter uses the legendary pokemon (Yeahh.... ghetsis wants the whole throne, he never planned N to rule anything) -Create an entire criminal organisation and devisive political issue in Unova... that he donsent even beleive in at all. -The only trainer in the series to have a max power frustration on a pokemon, meaning minimum freindship level. In other words, he made his pokemon hate him. -Froze entire cities -Tries to kill the protagonist (like, literally kill, not just beat them in a battle) -Literally hits Lillie (like, physically *hits* her himself), takes her as a hostage to make you put your pokeballs down in team Rainbow Rocket. Like, literally threatens to kill Lillie.
He also originally planned to go after the Sinnoh legendary trio after Unova. So yeah don't count him out on ambition. Plus his team as of Black and White are almost a mirror of Champion Cynthia.
He is revealed to still have his right arm as early as the intro. It's miscoloured, but he still has it. My working theory is that he is a recovering stroke victim. He keeps his right eye and arm hidden from view, both of them being on the same side of his body. Similarly, the right side of his mouth always seems unable to completely open. Whether it's some aborted story arc or not, I think it adds to the unnerving nature of his character.
I played through all of the bosses in Episode RR in one sitting in bed, with my girlfriend next to me on her phone. She didn't react to anything else, but when this came on, she just said "Holy shit".
Sure, Ghetsis, you can plot to take over the world, manipulate Giovanni to your heart's content, give tons of children Vietnam flashbacks with your OP as heck Hydreigon, manage to have arguably the best theme of the Rainbow Rocket bosses, AND maintain your status as a complete psychopath. Believe it or not, I'm ok with you doing all of that, since I know I'm gonna cream you anyway. But when you shove Lillie onto the floor, that's where I draw the line.
I agree with you. Ghetsis was even worse that a normal human, but rather a monster consumed by a false ambition and evil desire, with his ambitions bringing nothing but sadness and despair to both human and pokemon. I wonder how will things play out if Gen 5 (I meant both pairs) as a remake in switch, I can imagine that the age rating might rise from Everybody to 10 or 12 plus due to the morality, social and theme of the story. I haven't finish gen 5 but by watching the walkthroughs and looking into the story closely, I can see how despicable he was, makes me feel like there should be divine retribution befall him. If gen 5 was remade, I wish that the playable character will have some physical action and speech, like in a physical fight and some vocal lines (both Japanese and English) to empathize how serious the situation is. I don't think that adding the character having physical wounds will be kid friendly, but this shows the reality that anything can happen, even in some morality issues.
I wanted to order my Primarina to drown the fucker right then and there. Or have my Metagross put a leg through his gut. But seeing him break down and get owned by Colress worked too.
0:05 I just realised this sounds like a whip, which fits perfectly with Ghetsis's "pokémon are just tools without feelings" view. Given the fact that this Ghetsis won in his dimension and has likely turned all pokémon and most likely even people into slaves, this once again shows how Ghetsis is nothing but pure evil.
@@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 *Ahem* The future! or something idk I had weird subtitles so I don't know what he's actually supposed to say, thanks to science!
I see a lot of people saying that Cyrus is the most threatening Pokémon villain, but I think Ghetsis is terrifying. The thing is, Cyrus wanted a world without spirit. A world where nobody could experience emotions. They'd just be empty husks of who they used to be. However, remember how Ghetsis mainly set up Team Plasma, only to take control of the entirety of Unova or maybe the world? People would suffer on the daily. He'd probably have his Hydreigon murder anyone that opposed him. Considering nobody would be able to use Pokémon anymore, nobody would even be able to fight back. This means everyone would suffer forever. I say forever, because if Ghetsis was the only one who could catch Pokémon like Xerneas? He would be immortal. Meaning eternal suffering worldwide. That's why I think the most threatening villain is Ghetsis. That maniac.
There's also the fact that Cyrus has a Crobat, meaning he probably does have a little bit of a good side, Ghetsis however is literally the ONLY character I can think of that has a Max Frustration move and it's on Hydregon... HIS ACE
The difference btw the 2 is Cyrus is an idiot & wants to live alone with only himself. What is he going to get out that? He’s a hurt little boy & his back story proves of it. He just needed love, and his part in the Manga this dummy had Lucas help him fight of Giratina bc he realized what a mistake he caused. Ghetsis on the other hand shown from the games, anime adaptations to Manga he’s a literal sociopath. Wants nothing more but power. He’s a villain done right bc he makes me hate him.
Let's be honest Ghetsis is a monster He abused n after taking him in and lied to him about his plans to liberate Pokemon. He almost killed the black and white 2 player with kyrem And then he pushes lillie to the floor in US/UM ghetsis is not kid friendly
remember, he was on the brink of killing lillie just to make that career of attempted murder worse, and he would of gotten away with it if colress didn't step in.
Ghetsis is not child friendly, and thank God because GF's overall move to make Pokemon more and more sanitised for the kiddies is such a shame. Many of us managed to cope with Team Rocket killing Cubone's mother and cutting tails of Slowpokes as 10 year olds but now apparently kids can't even cope with a tiny bit of darkness? Actually I'm pretty sure they CAN, and having a real villain who is actually a threat really resonates with kids too.
I don’t think Ghetsis is Pokémon’s best villain... but damn, he is beyond a shadow of a doubt a monster. Not ONCE do I recall Giovanni ever saying he would outright KILL the main character. Let me say that again: Ghetsis was willing to murder CHILDREN. And when you feel that’s acceptable, when Giovanni has the moral high ground by comparison, you better hope Hell doesn’t exist, cause after that, you bought a ticket for it.
Even if you think he isn't the best villain, he's easily the most evil/murderous. Not only was his plan to freeze the entire Unova region over (which would kill everyone), he immediately attempts to freeze the player character (as the commenter above me said). He was willing to adopt an orphan and manipulate his childhood and his whole life to simply make him a tool in his villainous plan and cast him aside when things went awry. Not only do all the other villains accept defeat in Ultra Sun/Moon, but only Ghetsis has a total breakdown and threatens to kill Lillie. I thought Giovanni would have some sort of breakdown, but no, even he accepted his defeat and moved on quickly. Ghetsis is no joke.
Ah Gen 5... good times. Great story, some of the best characters in the series (N, Ghetsis, Colress, and Alder are great characters), and some amazingly strong Pokémon (Darmanitan, Haxorus, Hydreigon, Gigalith, Galvantula, Klinklang, Vanilluxe, Reunicles, Bisharp, and Volcarona being the main ones that come to mind). Not to mention Ghetsis himself is such a diabolical genius bastard and the best villian in the series.
Yeah ghetsis was a real villain unlike maxie(oras), archie(oras), lusamine, necrozma and im pretty sure we're not going to get a real villain in sword and shield
It annoys me that USUM tried to hype Giovanni up as this great evil. Like, compared to Ghetsis he's absolutely pitiful. Rainbow Rocket was a total joke.
ghetsis is the only team boss i would genuinely enjoy throwing hands with in a denny’s parking lot at 3am. a masterclass in villainy. when people hate your villain, you know you did them right.
I'm glad they acknowledge how dangerous and important Ghetsis is. If it weren't for the player, I wonder if Ghetsis would have actually been able to follow through on his plan to overthrow Giovanni.
Gengarzilla Eh, Mega Mewtwo X/Y would have stopped Hydreigon.... and then Giovanni wins, as Ghetsis carries no Megas of his own, and while Bisharp and Hydreigon both have a type advantage on Mega Mewtwo (either form), they are clearly weaker, both Mega Mewtwo forms have an advantage over Reshiram/Zekrom, and if Giovanni is using Mega Mewtwo Y, it would know both Ice Beam and Aura Sphere, giving it an advantage on Hydreigon as well.
Everyone is either remembering a previous battle with him or saying something about how he tried to kill Lillie, and I'm just thinking that he's basically attempted to murder someone at least about maybe 3 or 4 times already. Or that he probably actually killed the N from his universe if him having Reshiram/Zekrom is anything to go by.
So according to an interview, all the members of Team Rainbow Rocket came from alternate timelines where they won. Just as a heads up, that probably means this version of Ghetsis killed his timeline's N.
Yeah, all of them talk about achieving their goals, and wondering if a trainer as strong as you (in USUM) could have stopped them in their own world. Plus they have legendaries. Giovanni having Mewtwo in particular is a callback to the very first movie where he successfully controls Mewtwo
Quick heads up Giovanni - World Domination Archie - Flood the world (basically) Maxie - Expand land Cyrus - New world with no emotions. Ghetsis - World domination Lysandre - mass genocide of Kalos and immortality
The hated boss who beats you down and beats you down and beat you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beat you down and beats you down and-
This song... It's terrifying. Like legitimately scary. And the actually say Ghetsis now?! NO MORE DENNIS?!?! I'm sorry! I regret ever making fun of the Dennis thing! PLEASE SPARE ME!!!
@@MothDax Me: You, intruder of ordinary size! If you value your life, run away from this scene of my Pokémon literally ripping Ghetsis apart this instant!
I love that both Arceus' theme and Dialga/Palkia's disaster theme are hiding in here, indicating he not only thinks himself to be a god, but very well may be at the level of these gods.
Gen 1 here. I love gen 5. Sure the design of the pokemon wasn't up to my standards at the time, but every other thing was perfect. Gen 1 is what I have nostalgia for. Gen 2 was when they got it right. Gen 3 was went the evolved the formula. Gen 4 Gen 5 was when they perfected it.
Yes, yes, YES!! Ghetsis is my favorite boss and this song does so much to make him even more badass. Cany wait for the others themes becouse i know thell sound amazing
Pokemon black and white were actually my very first Pokemon games, which made me fall in love with the entire franchise. I always found Ghestsis extremely difficult to defeat, and in this game he's still as challenging as ever, and again they even made his theme song sound even more bad ass.
I tell you this. This guy is the ONLY one who wanted to KILL the boy, in Black and White series and it's sequel! Time to give this guy one final BEATDOWN!
Ghetsis is the most despicable, rotten, dark villain in Pokemon history. This nutcase's appearance in this game makes me want to punch him so bad even with the stuff he pulled in BW and B2W2!
It makes me like him even more, someone needed to slap Lillie, she’s such an annoying bitch, he should’ve grabbed her when he was getting sucked back into his own world that would’ve showed that betrayer Colress.
Guy: Who's the best Pokemon antagonist? Me: Ghetsis. Guy: Wait, why him? Me: Who else do you know who is a main antagonist in a video game and has a final boss theme with an ominous Latin choir chanting his name?? ... Guy: Ohhhhhhhhh... Me: Yep.
The fact that ghetsis apparently succeeded in his dimension makes me think he got rid of N. Then he proceeds to harm and threaten Lillie. Looking at the information presented to me, I feel an insatiable desire to feed his soul to my shedninja
When comparing this version of his theme to the version from BW, I realized something. The arrangement from BW sounded much more restrained and quiet, but still intimidating. On the other hand, this arrangement is much more intense and grand, as if something was being held back before. And this makes a lot of sense when you consider the state of his plans, as well as his character. Specifically, the fact that unlike in BW, he now wears his manipulative intentions on his sleeve and openly admits his plot to manipulate Giovanni to the player
They actually sing G-Cis which is his japanese (and German) name. He's named after the G-Cis tritone that was also known as diabolus in musica (The Devil in the music) because of it's dissonance. His first name (G-cis a dissonance) and surname (Harmonia, Latin for harmony) actually form opposites. This alludes to his evil plan which seems to have the good intention of helping pokemon at first but is later reveald to just be a cover up for his real goal, to rule over Unova. Moreover G-Cis obviously sounds a lot like Jesus, which is alluded by the team Plasma symbol (a Z overlapping with a P) in contrast to the Chi Rho (☧) Symbol that is a combination of the first 2 letters of "Christ" in greek ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ . He was most likely renamed in the english version because of this similarity. As for the Plasma logo, plasma is pronounced as "purazuma" in Japanese, which is most likely the reason for the PZ in the team's logo.
Natrium2400 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pokemon. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head. There’s also Lillie's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Pokemon truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Lillie's existential catchphrase “Get in the bag Nebby,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Satoshi Tajiri's genius wit unfolds itself on their 3DS screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a Pokemon tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
I see what you did there. But if you actually take this meme seriously it makes no sense. To be informed about something really hasn't to do all that much with intelligence. I mean you could easily google most of that. It's simple information, there isn't anything special to understand. On the other hand, it's sad that RnM is memed to death by all this retards that just got on the bandwagon and only watched it since it was hyped. It's a good series with a terrible fanbase, just like the pokemon games. I only wanted to point out some interesting things about Gethis, I'm not some autistic poser. A bit background info can be enjoyable imo
Natrium2400 I was just meming the Rick and Morty copypasta because the information that you had seemed like something that not a lot of people would know. It is some really fascinating information that you have. I love music and I've always had a love of pokemon (gen 5 is what got me into the series) so it's cool to see that Ghetsis is based off of that.
The RicknMorty past is really cancerous. Not your fault though. It's a cool series that suffers from an aweful fandom. Actually I googled the stuff myself when BW were released since I was curious about why they might have changed his name for the english release. I'm German, so this whole G-Cis=Jesus thing wasn't all to obvious for me 6 years ago.
I like the changes they made to Ghetsis' theme in USUM. This Ghetsis is from an alternate timeline, one where he and Team Plasma rule over Unova, perhaps even their entire world, with an iron fist. It sounds much more intense than the original theme, more demanding to anyone listening. Because before the Trainer, at the moment of battling him, stands a psychopath who got everything he wanted... and he wants your world too. And all other worlds.
@@SMCwasTaken oh absolutely. like sure its pokèmon and theyre all goofy villains but i could honestly see Ghetsis being a real man rather than like...Cyrus. Also Giovanni.
When he said that my pokeballs were shaking, I was honestly hoping one or all of my pokemon would come out. Even if they don't do anything, be pretty cool to see. Especially your starter and Nebby
Everyone talking about Hydreigon being a cakewalk for Fairy types, like Sylveon or Gardevoir. But remember, a scarfed Hydreigon has 146 base Speed instead of 98, a Choice Specs one has 184 base Special Attack instead of 125, and the unboosted stats are still very decent. Also it can run Flash Cannon, Heat Wave and some other brutal special moves. A well trained Hydreigon is a total beast, mine holds a Life Orb, it was trained to be a merciless sweeper, no Fairy can switch in safely, gave me at least 10 victories online. No boosts, no weather, no hazards, solo Hydreigon. Battle Tree, all-out attacking with my Life Orb Hydreigon as the ace, my Scarfed Timid Gardevoir as the lead and Mega Blaziken as the anti-Steel, the order is: "Leave no survivors". Edit: Hydreigon can learn Focus Energy and hold a Scope Lens for a guaranteed critical hit with Draco Meteor.
@@Damascene_ Hey, got a brand new Hydreigon. A mixed Scope Lens + Focus Energy (100% critical hit), to ignore debuffs from Draco Meteor and Superpower.
Actually, not EV invested Choice Scarf Hydreigon has 348 Speed, equal to not EV invested *156* Base Speed. If Hydreigon is EV invested, then it's Speed with Choice Scarf is equal 443, equivalent to not EV invested Base *204* Speed. The Special Attack with Choice Specs are (not invested and invested) 429 and 524 respectively, which equals to not invested Base Special Attack of *197* for not invested and *244* for invested Choice items increase NOT base stats, but stays after all calculations. The same goes for Special Defense Boost given by Assault Vest or Sandstorm for Rock-type Pokemon All calculations were made taking into account that in every instance, IV for every stat was maximum (31), and Nature was neutral
I know Ghetsis was the real villain from Gen5, but can you imagine what if N had a place in this, and his theme revamped for USUM, considering how hair-raising and lowkey terrifying his theme was in B/W? The idea alone kinda gives me chills.
@@artofthepossible7329 Adventures can get dark as hell, I love it. Guzma *beating himself up due to his traumatic childhood* when he lost was especially unnerving, even with how he tells his Pokemon they still tried their best.
Let me tell you all a story. When I was maybe 7 or 8 I was playing through Pokémon Black which was my first mainline series games. I grew up with gen 5. Ghetsis and his Eelektross was really annoying. I could barely stand a chance I always kept losing. It took me weeks to beat Ghetsis.
Ugh, this is literally the best boss of all Pokemon..He shows what a really greedy person is. He manipulated his adopted son into trying to control Unova, he tries to kill you in bw2 along with his son. And now he tries to kill Lillie and he knows that you’re young. This is a real villain. This is reality. He’s cold hearted and ascended the feelings of a human. No human isn’t an accurate word. He’s a monster. I wish he played a bigger role as he seemed more intimidating than anyone there. (Besides suicidal Lysandre..)
Yuukicchi I have to disagree with you there: Ghetsis isn't a villain, he's a Mad Dog... N when he was acting leader of Team Plasma, on the other hand, was way better in my honest opinion. His intentions were fundamentally wrong, but you can see where he was coming from. N was a villain that made sense, a farcry from his tyrannical terrorist father who was pretty much Proto-S/M-era Lusamine...
Robbie Norris You can't consider N a villain though. More of an antagonistic character. Ghetsis literally manipulated N his whole life thinking he was doing justice for the Unova Region and the World. Truth V. Ideals
ThomasTheDankEngine I know N wasn't really a villain, I'm saying when he was acting leader of Team Plasma, he was the only one amongst them to make some sense. It was a breath of fresh air to see a psycho terrorist group led by a sane man... Until I learned their _Real_ boss was a Dyed-in-the-Wool basketcase...
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Player: you're out of Pokemon ghetsis give it up
Ghetsis: ghetsis uses MURDER CHILD
you know if ghetsis can kill lillie then what is stopping you to just kill ghetsis with pokemon?
We have ethics, respect and sanity... he does not.
@@angrycinnabon2956 To be honest? IF some Unovan scumbag came by and threatened to kill my girl, There'd be my Aegislash through his chest cavity within 5 seconds.
Thats a classic Ghetsis move right there
@@PunYT fair enough, if I was a Pokemon trainer I'd be in the same boat.
I like how Archie, Maxie, Cyrus and especially Lysandre are really polite before and after you battle them. Meanwhile Ghetsis is batshit crazy
True true
Thom Boss Thats what makes him cool
He had kids do his dirty work. FUCKING CHILDREN WHO DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER
He is 200% ready to kill some 11 years old. This man is even more messed up than Lysandre and Cyrus. Sure they were trying to get their own little world only for themselves...but at least they had some decency :')
@@yopi_yopiSpeaking of which, since we see Ghetsis with the dragon, we can assume that he might've killed N, as Ghetsis' team in B/W specifically counters N's team.
'He is the real freak without a human heart'
-Cheren talking about Ghetsis, 2011
True dat
Cheren always do be spitting facts
@PimpURCabbges Which is funny because he’s supposed to represent ideals instead of truth
Lemonhead The duality of man
*hang on here... Alder is the one with enough balls to say it to his face at murdering distance*
I think what makes Ghetsis more evil than Cyrus or Lysandre is that he's not impersonal. When they put you in danger, it's all for the cause. When Ghetsis puts you in danger, it's because he *hates* you.
Enlightening...
Not only that Cyrus and lysandre didn’t try to kill you. Ghetis has a vendetta against you personally and tried to kill 3 kids! (Well 6 if you include both Nate Rosa hilbert and hilda and Selene and elio). The point is ghetis is basically Pokémon isis leader and took dark to a whole other level. Cyrus and lysandre at least had justifiable causes.
@@yoshpeters3079 now you tell cyrus' cause is justifiable if it doesn't even make sense. "I wanna reset the universe because it's not like I want.. and because I can"
@@yoshpeters3079 Nitpicking, but Cyrus and Lysandre were totally trying to kill you. Not directly, but as a casualty of the recreation of the universe / the ultimate weapon, absolutely
@@monopolyrubix1875 maybe so but it wasn’t a vendetta ghetsis wanted you personally dead. He was going to freeze you in 2 and watch as he freezes unova then you have permission to die like bane in dark knight rises. When unova is frozen and the region is mine you have permission to die. Cyrus just wanted an ideal world and lsyandre I believe.
Ghetsis's Hydreigon is the reason why Fairy types exist
Cynthia’s garchomp, the spam of dragons in the metagame too
No, Cynthia's Garchomp is the reason people remember to bring along an Ice type.
Cynthia... DONT YOU SAY THAT NAME AGAIN... I SAID DONT!!!
You guys forgot Drake's Salamance......
Rea Maravilla tell me why I was thinking of the artist Drake
After defeating them:
Maxie Archie Cyrus Lysandre Giovanni: good job kid
Ghetsis: *die*
even lysandre and cyrus get character development in this rendition, ghetsis
NO NEVER
@@HAZNAUT
That is what makes him at true villain, he has no honor, he will accomplish his goals no matter what
@@HAZNAUT if ghetsis somehow became sympathetic after achieving world domination. Then that just wouldn't be in character.
He was however planning on manipulating giovanni
@@mahdude2387
Exactly
@@spamton5266 unless some random 14 year old kid with a white or black dragon comes along
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN?!
i hate the young people XD
@@justyngreniger993 same
How about try battling him for a tenth time he may stop then.
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Lol that line was said by Harold from Spongebob 😂😂😂
This Ghetsis killed N. Yeah, he’s batshit insane. (Reference: Ghetsis uses either Reshiram or Zekrom, which N originally had, this Ghetsis succeeded, and part of his plan was to kill N.)
This comment made me sad, after I thought abt it. Now I just want to *destroy* Ghetsis. N is too pure
Considering that Ghetsis could've had both Dragons had they succeeded, I think N lives since he only takes one with him
(After all, Ghetsis did only want to destroy N because of the player changing his mind if I'm not mistaken)
@@Cynastri But then again, we don't know if the othe dragon was awoken in that timeline. If it wasnt, i doubt ghetsis could have coaxed it from its ball form.
@@Cynastri i am pretty sure Ghetsis killed N since his team was fully built to counter N teams so that explains why he has one of the dragons I think what changed is something happened to the main character in that universe maybe Ghetsis reacted quick and had the shadow team dispose of us in the charge cave 🤷♂️ but its enough proof to let us know Ghetsis did interfere at one point
@@RetroShark360
“I’ve found that a man of pure evil is easier to control than a freak without a human heart…”
N found out what Ghetsis was going and betrayed him.
And as a result, he got what he never deserved.
Yeah sure, Ghestis threatens to kill Lillie in USUM. That's pretty bad. But y'all forgetting how he blatantly tries to get Kyurem to *impale* you with ice in BW2. That was real bad.
I think it's fair to say that it means more when it's an actual character with a personality rather than a soulless player avatar who's in danger
@@Ah0yKatie Adventure awaits.
Ghetsis: kyurem use kill child
*Cough* Cyrus wanted to kill everyone
@@Regunes *cough*
Cyrus wanted to erase the world, then being it and all of the humans and pokemon back to life except they have no emotion or spirit.
The only character in the main series to outright threaten to murder a child. TWICE.
This is why Ghetsis is my favorite Pokemon villian.
I both love and hate Ghetsis for this quality--in a roster of villains who are either likeable, sympathetic or some combination of the two, it's fun to have one villain who's just a reprehensible scumbag with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
@ANDROXUS FOR SMASH The female SM protagonist is named Selene
@Insurrective 😐
it is scary when you think that he actually own the legendary dragon this time, so he probably killed N after he awoke the dragon
Alexander Thomas yes bro
Ghetsis: **exists**
Colress: however I disagree
colress: *proceeds to annihilate ghetsis out of this dimension*
You think sending him back to his dimension is fitting enough, Colress. HOWEVER, I DISAGREE. He should be a pile of meat ribbons, courtesy of my Aegislash. NOBODY hurts my Lillie.
Topkek Kek Elio/Selene: Did you kill him? Colress: Oh no I just rid him from this dimensions Elio/Selene: Oh thank Arceus Colress:JK yeah I killed him Elio/Selene:WHAT!
Ghetsis: (exsists)
Me: He looks like a rook! ♖♜
Punisher106 THANK YOU
Ghetsis is still the only pokemon villain who I would call truly evil to the core. He's not misunderstood or misguided. He just wants power. All the power in the world that he can get his hands on simply to control everybody else. His deepest wish is not to create a more pure world, or solve a perceived problem, but to become a dictator.
And this game tried to frame Giovanni as the biggest evil. What a laugh, he's a puppy compared to Ghetsis.
I think Giovanni is more evil than Ghetsis. This guy threatened the President of one of the biggest companies in the Pokemon world- The Silph Co. Not only that, he did not hesitate to kill Pokemon..Remember that Marowak? The Cubone's mother? He went after one of the strongest Pokemon- Mewtwo so that he could one day rule over the world. He did not feel any emotions while treating his own son (Silver) badly in his childhood. All these facts state that Giovanni is a truly evil man. Even Ghetsis in Ultra Sun/Moon says that "Giovanni is a man of pure evil."
"Now on which world shall I unleash my evil schemes upon?" All these things that I have mentioned state that Giovanni is more evil.
Not trying to start a fight/debate...
@@deathscyther4530 Giovanni was just a mafia boss. Ghetsis was a deceptive evil mastermind that would stop at nothing to become an absolute dictator of the Unova region, He Raised N on lies to make him into a tool to get more power for himself.
@@deathscyther4530
Giovanni is a man of true evil.
Ghetsis is a freak without a human heart.
I feel like Ghetsis is probably the more evil one out of the two. While the man doesn't outright kill pokemon, he still greatly abuses his own. His Hydriegon is the only pokemon owned by a NPC within the entire series that knows max level frustration, implying that he's abused it to it's limits. Not only does he abuse pokemon, but he also threatens to take the lives of many others as well. He threatens the player in Black 2 and White 2, using Kyurem as a weapon to try to impale them, as well as threatens to outright murder Lillie in USUM if the trainer doesn't release his/her pokemon. He raised his own son for the sole purpose of using him as a pawn to get a pokemon of immense power, all so that he could threaten people to release their own pokemon, so they'd have no way to fight back. On top of this all, in USUM, it's implied that he backstabbed N, possibly even murdered him, in order to get ahold of the legendary dragon after it's awakening.
Compared to this, Giovanni is just a mob boss. Sure, he's threatened people, but so do many other evil team leaders in the series. Sure, he abused his own son, but so did Ghetsis.
All other Pokémon villains: “Oh the kid beat me, better give up...” Ghetsis: “NO NO NO NO NO! I will kill her if you don’t throw your Pokeballs aside right this instant! I AM ABSOLUTE PERFECTION!!! I CANNOT FAIL! IT. WILL. NOT. BE. ALLOWED!”
I declined to throw my balls. 🤔
Same I would a been like "Put up fists!"
@Hydreigon Enthusiast actually i think he was trying to decapitate the player in B2W2
@@mephi7091 it would still be worse, he says "I will freeze you just so you can see me take over"
@@trollstar2561 never thought about that. But both are way too dark for a children game
Wow, now it sounds a lot more like "Ghetsis". Poor Dennis, we'll never forget you
Snow'White fun part is that it isnt supposed to sound "Ghetsis" but "G-cis" which is his japanese name
If I remember correctly, his japanese name is written "Gêchisu". Pronounced, that's pretty close to "Ghetsis" even though we would translate it as G-Cis ^^
Snow'White it is actually writte ゲーチスwhich is "Ge - chisu"
That's what I've written, "ゲー" is Gê , the accent translates the lengthen sound represented by the "ー" (I don't have the true accent so I use a similar french accent ^^')
It's Geeshisu in Japanese, then Ghétis (French) or Ghetsis (English)
I was more terrified that Ghetsis was returning than Giovanni.
@@goldenhydreigon4727 I respect you
@@goldenhydreigon4727 You don't earn respect by calling someone a coward, then literally boasting. And don't say it was a joke or you weren't joking because yes you were.
Same here. Ghetsis is an amazing and terrifying Pokémon Villain. I was also more scared of him returning than Giovanni.
True. Giovanni at least has a sense of honor. Ghetsis? He's an absolute - erm...I wanted to say "monster", but I didn't want to offend the Pokémon.
MrAuthor3DS
Ghetsis planned on using Giovoni like he did N. If he were to succeed, there would be little to no hope in stopping him. This man is UNHINGED, I mean Lusimine had a reason for why she was insane, cause of the stupid jelly frek. THIS MAN? He is just power hungry witj a God mind set. He thinks he sould rule everything and anything. Everyone and anyone. He'd probably usurp Arceus (in cannon) if he could just to become the ruler of all things.
Lusamine: *Furiously writing down notes*
Is what she would do if she weren't unconscious
I will never live this down...at least I have a heart
She's researching how to earn a parent of year award!
@@indumatipngtuber2790 lmao
Not in this universe, she ain’t. (Seriously, guys; don’t conflate the different Lusamines.)
*Sends out Sylveon* I've been waiting for this moment for a long time, old man...
_Ghetsis sends out Reshiram_
Everyone who prepared only for the Hydraigon: Fuck...
regionfuego6 reshiram were never been a threatenng pokemon. Your salamance will be faster and one shot it if you carry one.
Good thing it didn't know flash cannon..
@@regionfuego6 Sylveon: *proceeds to destroy Reshiram anyway*
Sylveon: *smiles maniacally* Death to all dragons..
How? Reshiram's high special defense along with the fact that it's neutral to Fairy attacks means it has no way of effectively dispatching Reshiram, on the other hand Reshiram thanks to it's big Special Attack and in combination with Blue flare and it's 33% chance of burning means Sylveon would be on quite a disadvantage here.
Reshiram at best needs 2 Hits to KO Sylveon. Sylveon needs AT BEST 3.
Ghetsis: *sends out level 60-something Hydreigon*
Me: _This time, I came prepared._
Me: *sends out level 81 Alolan Ninetales with perfect stats*
Hydreigon: *one-shots it*
Me: *?????*
Me, i prepared for him using Mega Garchomp
Poison Jab?
OH FUKA!
I didn't realise how buffed Gardevoir was until she OHKO'd his Hydreigon. Now I have both on almost every team for the Double Battle Tree
Ghetsis is a cheating prick.
Colress: *Teleports Behind You*
Nothing personal kid
*Personnel
Nikowo what are you talking about he typed it correctly
Nano
Shhhhhhh, that’s the joke
Somebody gets it
*VERY personal, kid
Gonna be honest, I played USUM before playing Gen 5 and I had no idea why this music was so intense for Ghetsis, I played Gen 5 not to long ago and wow, this man is scary
_you now learned why Fairy Type exists_
haha yeah
Gen 5 was MY introduction to Pokemon, so I'm honored that THIS guy was my first Pokemon villain.
Yeah this insane sonuvabitch was out for BLOOD
I don't have a chance to play BW2, and found a comment that his Hydreigon...
IS A PHYSICAL HYDREIGON, PHYSICAL!!! HOLDING A LIFE ORB!! MAXED OUT FRUSTRATION
LIKE BOI, THIS DUDE IS BATSHIT NUTS
Going through the comments about the stark difference in reactions between Ghestis and the other Leaders after being defeated got me thinking. The others, seem to have more a sense of honor when it comes to Pokemon Battles. Like a duel between respected opponents they acknowledge your skill and accept defeat and it's terms. Each seem amused by battling such a young trainer being so strong. Each one comments on the 'what if' a person like you had existed in their world. They also seem somewhat more... content having completed their goals. More satisfied for the moment. Even Giovanni seems to enjoy your battle.
Ghestis however, is not. He sees this as an opportunity to gain even MORE power. Why stick with one region, maybe even one world, when you can have many worlds? He cares not about honoring any terms of defeat nor is amused by battling such a strong opponent. You are just another obstacle to removed. Everything is just a means to an end, or a pawn to be used. Where the other leaders appear to have some sense of honor or standards Ghestis doesn't care. He only wants absolute power and will do anything to get it. Abusing and manipulating a child to become a 'King' through which you hold all the strings? Done. Plan to manipulate the mob boss that brought you here and make him your puppet? Check. Lost a battle and threaten to murder someone to get the winner to surrender? No problem. While there's no doubt the other team leaders are evil/misguided or crazy to some degree I think Ghestis is just straight up insane. To me that makes him the most terrifying to deal with so far.
Reading your comment while listening to this gave me chills
@Orion Valentine this better be satire - all giovanni does is be called boss. Ghetsis literally tries to murder you twice. He goes to any end and at least Cyrus has some level of rational thought
Out of the bosses, it's Lysandre and Ghetsis, the former being that he strives for perfection, by adding real context more then a pokemon game give you, i feel he is more dangerous as a villain as he is completely sane while doing so, while the latter is quite the opposite, as he is completely insane, doing whatever he needs to do to accomplish anything.
I've always assumed the other 4 bosses (excluding Lusamine) were more reasonable as men in power, less so with Cyrus as his reasonings as we know it is pure escapism from the reality a.k.a. the world is full of chaos (which it is after looking at all the end game of bosses in the whole series, but as for Ghetsis, take goodness Colress was there.
@Orion Valentine how is Ghetsis boring? He literally had one of the best storylines in the franchise. Cyrus, I get, but Giovanni is just some vanilla mob boss. There is no way Giovanni is a "next level villian".
@Orion Valentine Boring? Lol
Fairy types, staring down hydregion, then looking back to their trainer: "It can't hurt you anymore."
But his steel type can
Elias Montanez, (clicks Z-Focus Blast).
Checkmate!
Boooooo!
Hiissssss!
*inhales*
BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
His Reshiram would like to have a word with said fairy. Speaking of which, why does he have one of the hero pokemon. I thought Kyurem was the only legend under his control.
@@LordVanOskuro In the timeline where he came from, he killed N, to steal the dragon for himself. We can assume this due to the fact that his team perfectly countered N's team in B/W.
Ok... So basically:
Black/white: "I will have N be the king of Team Plasma. But, for that to work, you-- since you know the truth-- You must be eliminated!"
Black2/ white2: "this is my gift to you to show my respect for making it this far. I'll freeze you solid right here so you can watch my glorious ascent!" "Kyurem! GLACIATE!"
USUM: "You, tiny intruder! If you value this girl's life, throw aside all your Poké Balls, at this moment!"
Rated for "mild cartoon violence."
SUUURREEEEEE
it's boring if it's all wholesome you know xd
He’s a literal psycho
Ghetsis>Piers>Giovanni>Lysandre>Cyrus,Max,Archie,etc.
@@Xman34washere Piers isn't even really a villain though?
@@Xman34washere piers isint really a villain. There really isint a true villain in swsh, maybe shielbert and sordward . Rose does what he does for the greater good; good motives, poorly carried out.
Unlike Rick Astley, Ghetsis will give you up, let you down and also desert you. He will make you cry. He will hurt you. But he will never say goodbye. He always returns.
"I will never be a memory, N"
HE ALWAYS COME BACK
And he also tells so many lies.
@Mapleshade from Warriors Actually, BW remakes will _likely_ come out for Gen 10
Oh like a toxic relationship then.
Dennis Trilogy:
Dennis
Dennis Wants Revenge
Dennis Returns
Dennis: return of the Menace
Dennis: Attack of the Hydriegon
Dennis: Revenge of the Silveon
Sounds more like G-Cis even more than Dennis
It sounds like THeRE sayine BEEEZOS
My name is denis
I love how despite Giovanni being the leader of the operation, they still acknowledged Ghetsis as the best villain
Like, all the other bosses' plans succeeding ended up getting them killed and their worlds destroyed by the Legendaries, but Ghetsis straight up won, and that's even scarier
@@kittensolder8818
That's a world I DON'T wanna visit.
gama freak: "yeah we'll put giovanni for genwunners"
"we'll also make ghetsis secretly controlling him"
@@kyuremthehomie123all of them stated shit went south after they won, Archie and Maxie regretted expanding the oven and land when Rayquaza came knocking, Cyrus got jumped by Giratina, and Lysandre destroyed more then he wanted
nice barry pfp
I don’t fear Volo getting Giratina.
I fear THIS guy in Particular getting giratina.
Or worse, Dialga or Palkia.
I fear this guy getting the original dragon
Well he gained control of the entire Creation Trio in the trading card game.
Lol
_don't give him ideas_
A quote from best girl Robert EO Speedwagon describes Ghetsis pretty well:
“He is pure evil, right to his very bones! Is he a victim of circumstance you’re wondering?
Not on your life! He’s been evil since he drew his first breath!”
You can call me N now
@@Runoneer N, can you showcase me your newly found [ REQUIEM ] POWAHHHH to me?
Ashiel you well never reach the truth
Thank you speedwagon, very cool.
Let's just hope he doesn't whip out a mask.
@@Runoneer the president is a green boi in a AU? that spin messed ya up good.
They heard us. They say Ghetsis now
Kanon Yasu they chant "G-Cis", his japanese name
But...what about Dennis...
Palazerker No one cares, Palazerker. No one cares.
The best part about this Ghetsis is he won in his dimension, I’m surprised he was as angry as he was when he lost, considering he was going back to the region he now ruled.
He wanted even more power, by using Giovanni, he was pissed that he just lost his chance at multi-dimensional rule.
You are assuming Colres is not going to ‘correct’a few things on the way back.
With sharp tools. And perhaps a bludgeon.
He wanted more, and failed to get it. Ruling his Unova is somehow not going be as satisfying for him now that he lost the chance to expand beyond.
@@gengarzilla1685 yea your right Ghetsis would wanr more honestly wouldn't surprise me if he somehow was able to conquer Kanto and Jhoto at one point since Skyla is able to go to Kanto.
@@RetroShark360 I'm certain at some point he would have went after the sinnoh trio at some point as controlling time and space itself would allow him to become a multiverse level conquer.
It’s disturbing to me that ghetsis has one of the legendary dragons. Thinking about how he got it is worse. It gets worse when you realize that ghetsis’s team in black and white was basically a counter team he had built to defeat N, Zekrom and Reshiram specifically. In a universe where Hilbert/ Hilda don’t exist, there is no one to stop ghetsis from outright flattening N’s team and probably killing him as well to take the dragon he currently possesses.
Coolcat_tom // I will want the Ghetsis of BW2 again ;-;
Could you imagine the pokemon world under the reign of Ghetsis? Not only is he unstoppable, but he technically owns literally every single pokemon, and here’s how:
In a world where Hilbert/Hilda didn’t exist, Ghetsis succeeds in his plan and uses N, the hero of the Unova region to convince everyone that owning pokemon is wrong. This movement later on spreads to the other reigons. Ghetsis now rules the land. Ghetsis now has every pokemon in hand, even the legendaries. If he wanted he could use any of the legendary pokemon to fulfill his desires. He could use Xerneas to give himself eternal life, or use Giratina to banish everyone who opposes him into the distortion world. What a scary thought.
Coolcat_tom, it is actually very likely that Ghetsis killed N in the universe where Hilbert/Hilda didn’t exist due to the fact that N sees his Pokémon as friends and wouldn’t allow Ghetsis to treat them cruely, as a result, Ghetsis kills N, so he can finally have the legendary dragon all to himself, and then eventually the world.
Ghetsis actually never stole N's Dragon. Hate to disprove that theory but in BW when N got his Dragon, Ghetsis was searching for the other stone to use for himself but they couldn't find it in the ruins in the desert because it was in Nacrene City. The Dragon probably saw him as someone who had a ideal and sides with him. He then CONTINUES to use N as a puppet and prepares to squash him should he ever retaliate. The main character doesn't exist so there is no reason he shouldn't find the stone and he has no reason to attack N since N is pretty much the guardian or champion at that point and a great figurehead
PlazmaStorm, so N wouldn’t try stopping him when he finds out his father was using him out of selfishness?
I gotta love how unlike the other themes of the bosses brought back for rainbow rocket, this isn't really a remix...This is a remaster, and it turned an already god tier theme into absolute perfection. Not to mention Ghetsis is MUCH. MUCH. more evil than all of the other bosses brought back combined, planned to overthrow Giovanni himself AND even boosts his already infamous track of attempts to murder children.
Yeah, all the boss themes were remixed to sound more like USUM but Ghetsis's sounds like it was ripped from BW
I like to think that his music is so similar to its Black/White iteration because Ghetsis himself changed the least out of any of the “victorious” leaders in Rainbow Rocket
@@anthonydavid3348 Bro imagine what Gamefreak would do to the B2W2 Ghetsis theme
@@MariOmor1 Well now we know, and they *WENT HARD.*
Indeed, it sounds like a complete remaster.
Never played BW or B2W2 but this battle, his theme, and his evil character of tackling Lillie down and wanting to physically fight your trainer made me want to play those games now
jdark15 trust me dude they're great games! and challenging! i played b2 so many times but it's so challenging still no matter what xD
BW is one of the best, especially the storyboard is quite impressive n Pokemon's standards. Gotta play it.
If you do play them then be careful. Because Ghetsis is INSANELY tough, having a full team of diverse types that makes B/W's champion look like a chump. And also remember that gen5 has no Fairy types and the Unova region is very scarce when it comes to fast Fighting, Bug, Dragon, and Ice types (which that Haxdreigon can usually tank and OHKO back with its ludicrous movepool).
If you want to know anything about Ghetsis, he is the most sinister, evil, violent, manipulative, cruel hearted, and scariest villain ever, and he is in a POKEMON game. He attempts to kill you in B2 and W2! And he COULD HAVE SUCCEEDED!!!
You should. The are the games that have very good music and tried new things for pokemon
Rest in peace, Dennis. You will never be forgotten.
_DEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNIISSS_
Trigspro789 here in Italy we've always heard _TEEEEEEEENNNIIIISSSSS_
ahahah Dennis isn't a very used name, so "TENNIS"😂😅
i also want some LEEEEEEEEEMOOOOOOONSSSS
explain.
Superkicks Gaming 1:40
Samuel VEEENICE!
Hydreigon's stongest move is possibly Frustration
Wanna know why?
*hydreigon really hates ghetsis*
Hyperspace yeah he gave him a broken eye
And may or may not have mangled his right arm
I don’t even want to think about what that Hydreigon could have gone through. It’s Ghetsis we’re talking about, the man who has tried to kill children multiple times, was planning to manipulate _Giovanni_ after they’d won, abused N, and so on. Ghetsis does not give two shits.
So to make his Hydreigon, which he clearly doesn’t give two shits about either, have maximum power Frustration...
Heres a little comparison. Cyrus, another clearly insane man who attempted to destroy the world, had a Crobat. you require high friendship to evolve into a Crobat.
I’m totally down to believe these Hydreigon abuse theories, to be frank. Poor dragon.
Ghetsis abused his hydreigon
Yeah. Hydreigon did kinda slice Ghetsis' eye in B/W. Then chopped off his arm in B2/W2
Ghetsis: Its over. *Sends out Hydreigon*
Me: *Sends out any Fairy type*
Ghetsis: Well, I guess I'll hit a child
My fairy type is Mawile
*kill
Tell that to my Tapu Koko who got one-shotted by Hydreigon
haha dark pulse go brrr
He came prepared tho
He has:
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
*FLASH CANNON*
Frustration
Out of all of the main villains, ghetsis is my favorite just by his character alone. Gen 5 had an extremely dark tone and it made for an experience unlike any other pokemon game. Team plasma had a goal unlike the other enemies and it was scarily realistic. Ghetsis's personality and idealogy were the darkest of all the main series villains and it was fantastic. Gen 5 is honestly my favorite generation because it brought so many new ideas to pokemon and it presented it fantastically.
That's why Gen 5 was the best.
I wish I had the opportunity to play the gen 5 games..
Since the evil teams are inspired by the then-current events happening in Japan...
what the fuck was happening, japan? do you need to talk i-
@KSS Studios Nope Neo Plasma exist they sided with Ghetsis & wanted to help him take over the world. The fight we have of them in Virbank they say it.
@KSS Studios in BW1 When we first encounter team Plasma kicking munna the grunts panick saying "this is Ghetsis when a plan has failed" implying they know his true intentions & are literally in Team Plasma bc of Fearing Ghetsis would do something to them if they "quit" and they did with the help of N facing him.
In my opinion, Ghetsis is the most threatening villain in the entire series to date. He's been the only one to attack children with full intent to kill them, not to mention that he raised a child in a controlled environment in order to use him to take over the damn world.
Sure, Lysandre had that machine of mass destruction that'd cause a mass genocide, but at least Lysandre was saddened by how many people and pokemon would need to die to make the world "beautiful".
Ghetsis just didn't care. No regrets, even after his defeat.
Giovanni can still enjoy a battle even if he loses. Hell, Cyrus, who has NO emotion whatsoever, can still admire your strength and rotom. Ghetsis is someone who literally thinks he CANNOT lose, and he will be successful, he MUST be successful, no matter what. Only his own self mattered to him.
@@lyonvensa he has a whole god complex going on. And that's cool
That's why he's my favourite pokemon villain :)
There's even that theory about him having murdered Hilbert/Hilda between BW/2 explaining their absence in those games. Truly a chilling entity.
@@Cruptile unfortunately thats been disproven. In game Diolouge, and N’s story in Masters EX tells that they’ve been searching other regions for N
RIP Dennis.
2010-2017
You will be missed.
Mizu 2012
Ivan Cordeiro Braga Black and White came out 2010 in japan
It took THAT LONG!?!
yep
I don't know weather to be dissapointed or impressed that it took THAT LONG!
Pretty impressive how ghetsis manages to stand out from pretty much all other pokemon evil team leaders. He's practically an antithesis to all of Pokemon's core message, which is kinda fitting considering the whole point of team plasma is initially calling that core message into question.
I like how he is also probably the only characther in pokemon who probably has sustained actual serious physical injury. We cant know for sure, but he might be missing an eye and an arm. Think about what that means for a characther in the world of pokemon. Ghetsis isint afraid to hurt you, even if it means getting hurt. And losing an eye and an arm didint stop him before.
List of things Ghetsis has done:
-Raised a child specifically for the purpose of befreinding a legendary pokemon and to beleive in a cause he thinks is bullshit
-Proceed to tell that child they are basically disposable and that they are a freak (and other shitty stuff)
-Possibly plan to kill that child because you have a team practically built to counter theirs and in the Rainbow Rocket encounter uses the legendary pokemon (Yeahh.... ghetsis wants the whole throne, he never planned N to rule anything)
-Create an entire criminal organisation and devisive political issue in Unova... that he donsent even beleive in at all.
-The only trainer in the series to have a max power frustration on a pokemon, meaning minimum freindship level. In other words, he made his pokemon hate him.
-Froze entire cities
-Tries to kill the protagonist (like, literally kill, not just beat them in a battle)
-Literally hits Lillie (like, physically *hits* her himself), takes her as a hostage to make you put your pokeballs down in team Rainbow Rocket. Like, literally threatens to kill Lillie.
Grammar
You forgot to say that his name is actually inspired by a musical movement which is supposed to represent the devil 😊
He also originally planned to go after the Sinnoh legendary trio after Unova. So yeah don't count him out on ambition. Plus his team as of Black and White are almost a mirror of Champion Cynthia.
He is revealed to still have his right arm as early as the intro. It's miscoloured, but he still has it. My working theory is that he is a recovering stroke victim. He keeps his right eye and arm hidden from view, both of them being on the same side of his body. Similarly, the right side of his mouth always seems unable to completely open. Whether it's some aborted story arc or not, I think it adds to the unnerving nature of his character.
It was probably Hydreigon who ripped his arm off
BW: A New Dennis
B2W2: Dennis Strikes Back
USUM: Return of the Dennis
CitifiedDruid
BW remakes: The Dennis Awakens
Dennis:
A Pokémon Story
Dennis: The Last Dennis
BW in a nutshell: Dennis betrays Pallet swapped Komaeda so he can control New York City with lies
Let us not forget the unpopular prequels: “The Dennis Menace”, “The Attack of the Dennis”, and “Revenge of the Dennis”
The scene that followed this battle was absolutely amazing. Anyone who’s played the game knows exactly what I’m talking about.
Yeah, it was fitting of Ghetsis' character quite well.
Antonio Morales Damn Colress sent that boy back to "2010." Real MVP of USUM.
Antonio Morales Straight up was going to kill her, just like he nearly killed you in B2/W2
Antonio Morales
Colress was like: "nothin personnel kid"
I fuckin lost it
Colress: *teleports behind you
I played through all of the bosses in Episode RR in one sitting in bed, with my girlfriend next to me on her phone. She didn't react to anything else, but when this came on, she just said "Holy shit".
wow
Ghetsis causes that effect in the people
what girlfriend?
Who would expect a theme like the ones in God of War in a Pokemon game?
oh lawd' he comin
This is the Ghetsis who successfully finished his plan in B1-W1 so this theme is even more powerful than the original
Oh shi* that’s true
Im really impressed, they managed to keep the feel of the original theme.
Big Bongo it's not official, it's a remix
Zesty Smith incorrect check description
+Zest Smith What makes you think it's unofficial?
0/10 they removed D E N N I S
Reapeageddon but now we have B R E A K F A S T
Sure, Ghetsis, you can plot to take over the world, manipulate Giovanni to your heart's content, give tons of children Vietnam flashbacks with your OP as heck Hydreigon, manage to have arguably the best theme of the Rainbow Rocket bosses, AND maintain your status as a complete psychopath. Believe it or not, I'm ok with you doing all of that, since I know I'm gonna cream you anyway.
But when you shove Lillie onto the floor, that's where I draw the line.
I agree with you. Ghetsis was even worse that a normal human, but rather a monster consumed by a false ambition and evil desire, with his ambitions bringing nothing but sadness and despair to both human and pokemon. I wonder how will things play out if Gen 5 (I meant both pairs) as a remake in switch, I can imagine that the age rating might rise from Everybody to 10 or 12 plus due to the morality, social and theme of the story.
I haven't finish gen 5 but by watching the walkthroughs and looking into the story closely, I can see how despicable he was, makes me feel like there should be divine retribution befall him. If gen 5 was remade, I wish that the playable character will have some physical action and speech, like in a physical fight and some vocal lines (both Japanese and English) to empathize how serious the situation is. I don't think that adding the character having physical wounds will be kid friendly, but this shows the reality that anything can happen, even in some morality issues.
bdt2002 Gaming wait wait wait wait wait WHAT... I'm just here listening to some USUM music to hype myself up for when I get it, AND GHETSIS DOES WHAT
LEAVE LILLIE ALONE PEOPLE
I wanted to order my Primarina to drown the fucker right then and there. Or have my Metagross put a leg through his gut. But seeing him break down and get owned by Colress worked too.
bdt2002 Gaming i lost to him once in usum, i came back and shredded his ass.
Don't. Touch. Lillie.
1:42 Seems Gamefreak wanted to make it clear it was supposed to be ‘Ghetsis’ by putting more emphasis on the S's
This was the first time they did his American name instead of ghetis, the Japanese pronunciation
I saw in the comments, his japanese name is G-cis (Gēchisu)
To me, it's still LEEEETTUCE.
Alexander Shulla I've always thought GAAAAAYCHEESE, but that's just me.
@@DorianBrightMusic Fuck that's even better!
0:05 I just realised this sounds like a whip, which fits perfectly with Ghetsis's "pokémon are just tools without feelings" view. Given the fact that this Ghetsis won in his dimension and has likely turned all pokémon and most likely even people into slaves, this once again shows how Ghetsis is nothing but pure evil.
In the original fight he slams the control staff into the ground rhythmically, this is the evolution of that into the theme.
I remember battling that guy....
The hydreigon brings back so many memories
The Hydreigon and the Bouffalant...
*Vietnam War Flashbacks*
Yeah, to bad you can one shot that Hydreigon with a Fairy Type now, unlike back then.
Miss Mushy *shudders*
Say hello to my little friend! *pulls out alolan Ninetales*
Crimson Gamer Hydreigon is absolutely FUCKED against Alolan Ninetales.
Sends out Fairy Type.
The Future is Now Old Man.
gets flash cannoned to hell
The future is now thanks to fairy types
and your future fainted because of flash cannon
@@pallaponteng2775 and also, poison jab
@@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 *Ahem* The future! or something idk I had weird subtitles so I don't know what he's actually supposed to say, thanks to science!
I destroyed his Hydreigon with mine, with a critical hit of *_Return._*
Damn
You. You are a good trainer.
You and I are not so different - uses choice band return Hydreigon.
that is the most fucking anime way to win against ghetsis no cap
THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
I see a lot of people saying that Cyrus is the most threatening Pokémon villain, but I think Ghetsis is terrifying. The thing is, Cyrus wanted a world without spirit. A world where nobody could experience emotions. They'd just be empty husks of who they used to be.
However, remember how Ghetsis mainly set up Team Plasma, only to take control of the entirety of Unova or maybe the world? People would suffer on the daily. He'd probably have his Hydreigon murder anyone that opposed him. Considering nobody would be able to use Pokémon anymore, nobody would even be able to fight back. This means everyone would suffer forever. I say forever, because if Ghetsis was the only one who could catch Pokémon like Xerneas? He would be immortal. Meaning eternal suffering worldwide.
That's why I think the most threatening villain is Ghetsis. That maniac.
He is a lot worse than that in USUM.
There's also the fact that Cyrus has a Crobat, meaning he probably does have a little bit of a good side, Ghetsis however is literally the ONLY character I can think of that has a Max Frustration move and it's on Hydregon... HIS ACE
Although, to be fair, Xemeas would not like that, and being a legendary Pokémon, could probably absolutely rock Ghetsis’s world.
The difference btw the 2 is Cyrus is an idiot & wants to live alone with only himself. What is he going to get out that? He’s a hurt little boy & his back story proves of it. He just needed love, and his part in the Manga this dummy had Lucas help him fight of Giratina bc he realized what a mistake he caused. Ghetsis on the other hand shown from the games, anime adaptations to Manga he’s a literal sociopath. Wants nothing more but power. He’s a villain done right bc he makes me hate him.
@@John-Stark his crobat liking him doesn't mean he likes his crowbat.
Let's be honest
Ghetsis is a monster
He abused n after taking him in and lied to him about his plans to liberate Pokemon.
He almost killed the black and white 2 player with kyrem
And then he pushes lillie to the floor in US/UM
ghetsis is not kid friendly
remember, he was on the brink of killing lillie just to make that career of attempted murder worse, and he would of gotten away with it if colress didn't step in.
Oh yeah and his plan in USUM was basically to conquer multiple different worlds after making Giovanni king.
Ghetsis is not child friendly, and thank God because GF's overall move to make Pokemon more and more sanitised for the kiddies is such a shame. Many of us managed to cope with Team Rocket killing Cubone's mother and cutting tails of Slowpokes as 10 year olds but now apparently kids can't even cope with a tiny bit of darkness? Actually I'm pretty sure they CAN, and having a real villain who is actually a threat really resonates with kids too.
@@angrycinnabon2956 glad he didn't bring in kyurem though lmao
Don't forget this one either set up a puppet state or *killed N*
I don’t think Ghetsis is Pokémon’s best villain... but damn, he is beyond a shadow of a doubt a monster. Not ONCE do I recall Giovanni ever saying he would outright KILL the main character.
Let me say that again: Ghetsis was willing to murder CHILDREN.
And when you feel that’s acceptable, when Giovanni has the moral high ground by comparison, you better hope Hell doesn’t exist, cause after that, you bought a ticket for it.
Torterra oml thats true
Oh don't worry, in B2/W2 he flat-out tries to cryofreeze you by setting Kyurem on you.
Wonder if he's got some beef to go with that...
Even if you think he isn't the best villain, he's easily the most evil/murderous. Not only was his plan to freeze the entire Unova region over (which would kill everyone), he immediately attempts to freeze the player character (as the commenter above me said). He was willing to adopt an orphan and manipulate his childhood and his whole life to simply make him a tool in his villainous plan and cast him aside when things went awry.
Not only do all the other villains accept defeat in Ultra Sun/Moon, but only Ghetsis has a total breakdown and threatens to kill Lillie. I thought Giovanni would have some sort of breakdown, but no, even he accepted his defeat and moved on quickly. Ghetsis is no joke.
In the timeline he won, he did kill N, if the presence of Reshiram/Zekrom on his team means anything...
Uh, that's a bit of a hard to believe assumption that he killed N...
Ah Gen 5... good times. Great story, some of the best characters in the series (N, Ghetsis, Colress, and Alder are great characters), and some amazingly strong Pokémon (Darmanitan, Haxorus, Hydreigon, Gigalith, Galvantula, Klinklang, Vanilluxe, Reunicles, Bisharp, and Volcarona being the main ones that come to mind). Not to mention Ghetsis himself is such a diabolical genius bastard and the best villian in the series.
fireassassin123 i love Konkeldurr
Definitely the best villain.
Yeah ghetsis was a real villain unlike maxie(oras), archie(oras), lusamine, necrozma and im pretty sure we're not going to get a real villain in sword and shield
It annoys me that USUM tried to hype Giovanni up as this great evil. Like, compared to Ghetsis he's absolutely pitiful. Rainbow Rocket was a total joke.
My first Pokemon game was B2. Next main series game, assuming all the relevant Pokemon are in it, i'll be rebuilding my team.
ghetsis is the only team boss i would genuinely enjoy throwing hands with in a denny’s parking lot at 3am.
a masterclass in villainy. when people hate your villain, you know you did them right.
What an oddly specific scenario...
I need him so bad
This guy single-handedly (lol, get it?) redeems the lackluster Rainbow Rocket plot with his immense ego and scumbaggery.
I'm glad they acknowledge how dangerous and important Ghetsis is. If it weren't for the player, I wonder if Ghetsis would have actually been able to follow through on his plan to overthrow Giovanni.
I think there's a very good reason why he's taught Surf to his Hydreigon here.
Gengarzilla Eh, Mega Mewtwo X/Y would have stopped Hydreigon.... and then Giovanni wins, as Ghetsis carries no Megas of his own, and while Bisharp and Hydreigon both have a type advantage on Mega Mewtwo (either form), they are clearly weaker, both Mega Mewtwo forms have an advantage over Reshiram/Zekrom, and if Giovanni is using Mega Mewtwo Y, it would know both Ice Beam and Aura Sphere, giving it an advantage on Hydreigon as well.
@@Potterholic1 780 BST aint nothin to scoff at.
Everyone is either remembering a previous battle with him or saying something about how he tried to kill Lillie, and I'm just thinking that he's basically attempted to murder someone at least about maybe 3 or 4 times already. Or that he probably actually killed the N from his universe if him having Reshiram/Zekrom is anything to go by.
So according to an interview, all the members of Team Rainbow Rocket came from alternate timelines where they won.
Just as a heads up, that probably means this version of Ghetsis killed his timeline's N.
Yeah, all of them talk about achieving their goals, and wondering if a trainer as strong as you (in USUM) could have stopped them in their own world. Plus they have legendaries. Giovanni having Mewtwo in particular is a callback to the very first movie where he successfully controls Mewtwo
So does that mean Giovanni completed his plans of world domination?
Quick heads up
Giovanni - World Domination
Archie - Flood the world (basically)
Maxie - Expand land
Cyrus - New world with no emotions.
Ghetsis - World domination
Lysandre - mass genocide of Kalos and immortality
Guzma may be good...but this guy...
this guy is the hated boss who beats you down and beats you down and never lets up
Pretty sure he will just keep beating you up till you dead
this guy is the hated boss who freezes you without a second thought
@@lionelk.y7233 Ghetsis: why stop there?
Did Cyrus die?
The hated boss who beats you down and beats you down and beat you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beats you down and beat you down and beats you down and-
Ghetsis back at it again
This is probably the most epic remix from all the bosses, just love it.
The Groosenator // Incredible!
The return of dennis
dennnniiiisssss dddeeeeennnnniiiiissss DDDDDEEEEEENNNNNIIIIISSSSSS
TBF... it sounds more like his name now.
(But it will all ways be DENNIS in my heart.)
Dennis 2 xD
US/UM, All Team Leaders come back and Join Forces to Rule Kanto and Johto.
*Dennis Returns!*
DEEEEEEENNNNNNNNIIIIIISSSSS!
TEEEEEEETTTTTTTRRRRRIIIISSSS!
TEEEEENNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIISSSSSS!
GHHHHHEEEEEEETTTTTSSSSIIISSS!
This song... It's terrifying. Like legitimately scary. And the actually say Ghetsis now?! NO MORE DENNIS?!?! I'm sorry! I regret ever making fun of the Dennis thing! PLEASE SPARE ME!!!
"pushes Lillie to the ground:"
*WHERES THE PEPSI!*
@@zulthyr1852 G-Cis. G-Cis. *G-CIS! G-CIS!*
Ghetsis: *pushes Lillie and threatens her*
Me: And now, you have officially carried it too far, Buddy.
*cheers for Ghetsis*
@@MothDax its time for you to go to the distortion realm jimbo
@@MothDax Me: You, intruder of ordinary size! If you value your life, run away from this scene of my Pokémon literally ripping Ghetsis apart this instant!
Exactly me lol protecc the child
Good job Ghetsis!
Arceus called, he wants his drums ba-
Wait.
Didn't I already make this comment?
You might have 7 years ago.
Arceus will have to go through his better, first.
Raquaza took Arceus Drum ......
Arceus is being held hostage.
Theonetruedog Dog because hes a horse
Too bad they nerfed him in USUM. He was probably one of the hardest fights in the series back in Gen 5 but then fairies came around.
mega lopunny found out where his hydriegon lived
Ghetsis was the reason fairies had to be made
life orb max power frustration,,,,,,, so many OHKOs
AJ Nelson Ghetsis and Iris lmao. Fuckin’ Hydreigon man
@Dani FM Giovanni was easy for me tbh
I love that both Arceus' theme and Dialga/Palkia's disaster theme are hiding in here, indicating he not only thinks himself to be a god, but very well may be at the level of these gods.
Truly the most terrifying version of Ghetsis’s theme. They actually pronounced his name right.
RIP Dennis
Mooseyluke no this is an alternate world where every Dennis was slaughtered by Ghetsis. Dennis still exists in the player’s world
GHETSIS
DENNIS
LETTUCE
GET THIS.
ive always heard it as getis
@@thomasforster8461 Every Dennis of this word shall be slaughtered, as well. I'm always going to return.
*ＤＥＮＮＩＳ* Intensifies
Wow but it actually sounds more like Ghetsis now.
I in the black and white music heard it *PERISH*
ANISH DEB the meme was that it sounded like Dennis
But what they actually say is G-Cis(Gechisu), which is his japanese name
Nicolás Aroca the choir actually chants G-Cis
Genwunners: GEN 5 SUCKED!
Ghetsis: What the hell did you just say, punk
*battle starts*
Genwunners: HA! We'll beat you using our team of Overused Gen 1 Poke-
*Hydreigon sweeps them and then kills the Genwunners*
@@goldenhydreigon4727 the one respectable thing Ghetsis has done
Gen 1 here. I love gen 5. Sure the design of the pokemon wasn't up to my standards at the time, but every other thing was perfect.
Gen 1 is what I have nostalgia for.
Gen 2 was when they got it right.
Gen 3 was went the evolved the formula.
Gen 4
Gen 5 was when they perfected it.
@@zau64 you are an exception. Be happy
zau64 You're not a so-called 'genwunner', though. Because from your comment, you clearly enjoyed post-RBY games.
There's absolutely nothing redeemable about Ghetsis and I think I like that about him
As good as a misunderstood victim of circumstance villain can be, I'll always enjoy the pure evil bastard type of villains.
@@Prominexus I think you'd like the Yakuza series
Giovanni may be “The Boss”
Guzma may be “Ya Boy”
but Ghetsis is “Lord Ghetsis”
Yessir
Yes, yes, YES!! Ghetsis is my favorite boss and this song does so much to make him even more badass. Cany wait for the others themes becouse i know thell sound amazing
King Daniel The Dandy he is my favourite too and honestly is by far the most difficult to most players especially me the others I found too easy
So badass with those loafers 🤧👋 // nah nah but seriously the music is fugging lit and he is my favorite villain too actually -
Ghetsis is my favorite too
also me
The 'YEEES' in the background give me so many flashbacks and good memories of when I played black and whit/ black white 2
BW: *Attack On Dennis*
BW2: *DENNIS STRIKES BACK*
USUM: *Dennis - Civil War*
Future BW remakes: *Dennis Infinity war*
Future USUM remakes: *_DENNIS ENDGAME_*
Autism And Gaming exactly
There is no Dennis anymore. Only Ghetsis.
@Nicholas Boyovich It was a error
@@autismandgaming4532 You forgot about Masters EX
Remember when he tried to kill Lillie
wait wot
SootyQuill the Stupid Canadian seriously he threaten us that he'd kill Baby gurl of we didn't throw away or Pokeballs
Lord Bowser That was a threat. In BW2 he blatantly just tries to get Kyurem to impale you with ice.
Optimistic Charizard to be honest, I don't think that this sociopath would only threaten.
Lord Bowser
_Wouldn't be the first time he threatened to kill a child..._
_"I have found that humans, with their predictable ambitions, are easier to use and control than a _*_Freak without a human heart."_*
NANI??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Dissing my boy N?! THAT'S it! My bisharp will sharpen its blades on ya bones!" -me in Gen V, carries over to now
“Samurott? *Razor Shell.*
Pokemon black and white were actually my very first Pokemon games, which made me fall in love with the entire franchise. I always found Ghestsis extremely difficult to defeat, and in this game he's still as challenging as ever, and again they even made his theme song sound even more bad ass.
I tell you this. This guy is the ONLY one who wanted to KILL the boy, in Black and White series and it's sequel! Time to give this guy one final BEATDOWN!
...what about Lysandre ?
Nooo Mergawd Can't Change Name After 90 Days T-T Oh. Well, I suppose this is right... yeah, its a cool gen. Hey, nice pseudo name btw XD
What about cyrus who wanted to erase everyone and didn't even cared about his own team.
+Justsomeone oh! That too!
Pedro Sacramento frfr
Ghetsis is the most despicable, rotten, dark villain in Pokemon history. This nutcase's appearance in this game makes me want to punch him so bad even with the stuff he pulled in BW and B2W2!
StormC9A just punch? When he threatened us to hurt lillie i wanted to throw my all pokeballs... on him to destroy him.
It makes me like him even more, someone needed to slap Lillie, she’s such an annoying bitch, he should’ve grabbed her when he was getting sucked back into his own world that would’ve showed that betrayer Colress.
@@jackson2531 threating? He flat-out almost killed the main player
Guys, let's think on the bright side: at least frustration isn't a *dark type move*
What if it had an ability that turns normal type moves into dark type moves
@@Test-sd9mb Mega Hydreigon with... Darkening? (Turns normal moves into dark 1.3x their power) 🤣
@@blakevirtonis8567 they should make that Hydreigon's hidden ability, and give it to ghetsis' Hydreigon in the bw remakes, and give it frustration
@@blakevirtonis8567 hyperbeam... holy shit...
can't wait for choice specs 117 base power dark type hyper voice hydreigon
Oh hi Ghetsis!
You beat me in BW.
So meet my new little pet.
His name is Mimikyu.
I'm sure he'll make perfect friends with that Hydreigon.
Have fuuun!
mimikyu: let's snuggle forever :)
*flash cannon*
*dark pulse*
HYDREIGON USED FLASH CANNON
A CRITICAL HIT!
Then Mimikyu proceeds to miss three Play Roughs
@@weirdoticmakekrookodileimp4160 disguise
Guy: Who's the best Pokemon antagonist?
Me: Ghetsis.
Guy: Wait, why him?
Me: Who else do you know who is a main antagonist in a video game and has a final boss theme with an ominous Latin choir chanting his name??
...
Guy: Ohhhhhhhhh...
Me: Yep.
Sephiroth.
Blue has a choir in FRLG
*Dennis
Sephiroth did it a decade beforehand.
Jacob Kern
And he just need summoned one BIG meteor to end all mankind....
"Aw crap, guess I was defeated."
"I could be like a normal trainer and accept my defeat..."
"NOPE TIME TO KILL A CHILD"
The fact that ghetsis apparently succeeded in his dimension makes me think he got rid of N. Then he proceeds to harm and threaten Lillie. Looking at the information presented to me, I feel an insatiable desire to feed his soul to my shedninja
Colress: You may think you can do that, however, I DISAGREE!
Your Shedinja: *disappointed Shedinja noises*
If you fed his soul to your shedinja it would probably starve to death because he has no soul and shedinja is literally on 1HP all the time.
Shedinja coughs it up into a weird little hairball on the floor
When comparing this version of his theme to the version from BW, I realized something. The arrangement from BW sounded much more restrained and quiet, but still intimidating. On the other hand, this arrangement is much more intense and grand, as if something was being held back before. And this makes a lot of sense when you consider the state of his plans, as well as his character. Specifically, the fact that unlike in BW, he now wears his manipulative intentions on his sleeve and openly admits his plot to manipulate Giovanni to the player
What about the B2W2 version? That one sounds like he needs to be locked in an asylum pronto.
It sounds like a fusion of his first and second theme
It’s because they use the sinister brass and chanting more in this theme, whereas in the original they only were in the break
That damn Hydreigon tore me to shreds when I was 11, and after all these years it felt god damn *INCREDIBLE* to Twinkle Tackle that thing to oblivion!
They actually sing G-Cis which is his japanese (and German) name. He's named after the G-Cis tritone that was also known as diabolus in musica (The Devil in the music) because of it's dissonance. His first name (G-cis a dissonance) and surname (Harmonia, Latin for harmony) actually form opposites. This alludes to his evil plan which seems to have the good intention of helping pokemon at first but is later reveald to just be a cover up for his real goal, to rule over Unova. Moreover G-Cis obviously sounds a lot like Jesus, which is alluded by the team Plasma symbol (a Z overlapping with a P) in contrast to the Chi Rho (☧) Symbol that is a combination of the first 2 letters of "Christ" in greek ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ . He was most likely renamed in the english version because of this similarity. As for the Plasma logo, plasma is pronounced as "purazuma" in Japanese, which is most likely the reason for the PZ in the team's logo.
Natrium2400 Interesting
Natrium2400 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pokemon. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head. There’s also Lillie's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Pokemon truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Lillie's existential catchphrase “Get in the bag Nebby,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Satoshi Tajiri's genius wit unfolds itself on their 3DS screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Pokemon tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
I see what you did there. But if you actually take this meme seriously it makes no sense. To be informed about something really hasn't to do all that much with intelligence. I mean you could easily google most of that. It's simple information, there isn't anything special to understand.
On the other hand, it's sad that RnM is memed to death by all this retards that just got on the bandwagon and only watched it since it was hyped. It's a good series with a terrible fanbase, just like the pokemon games.
I only wanted to point out some interesting things about Gethis, I'm not some autistic poser. A bit background info can be enjoyable imo
Natrium2400 I was just meming the Rick and Morty copypasta because the information that you had seemed like something that not a lot of people would know. It is some really fascinating information that you have. I love music and I've always had a love of pokemon (gen 5 is what got me into the series) so it's cool to see that Ghetsis is based off of that.
The RicknMorty past is really cancerous. Not your fault though. It's a cool series that suffers from an aweful fandom. Actually I googled the stuff myself when BW were released since I was curious about why they might have changed his name for the english release. I'm German, so this whole G-Cis=Jesus thing wasn't all to obvious for me 6 years ago.
I like the changes they made to Ghetsis' theme in USUM. This Ghetsis is from an alternate timeline, one where he and Team Plasma rule over Unova, perhaps even their entire world, with an iron fist. It sounds much more intense than the original theme, more demanding to anyone listening. Because before the Trainer, at the moment of battling him, stands a psychopath who got everything he wanted... and he wants your world too. And all other worlds.
Why am I so obsessed with this guy as a character? He’s like the only truly villain-like villain in the entire series
honestly I think that's why he seems to be a favorite- he's not sugar coated for the sake of little kids. he's EVIL. and it's fantastic and TERRIFYING
pure facts
@@Deoxysoncracksugar coating is bad for kids
Kids need to learn about the real world
@@SMCwasTaken oh absolutely. like sure its pokèmon and theyre all goofy villains but i could honestly see Ghetsis being a real man rather than like...Cyrus. Also Giovanni.
The return of Dennis!
wait, who is dennis?
Amonte Edwards back in the original games it sounded like they were chanting Dennis, Dennis, Dennis in the music lol
Amonte Edwards LMAO, you’re not a true Pokefan if you didn’t know that.
When he said that my pokeballs were shaking, I was honestly hoping one or all of my pokemon would come out. Even if they don't do anything, be pretty cool to see. Especially your starter and Nebby
Everyone talking about Hydreigon being a cakewalk for Fairy types, like Sylveon or Gardevoir.
But remember, a scarfed Hydreigon has 146 base Speed instead of 98, a Choice Specs one has 184 base Special Attack instead of 125, and the unboosted stats are still very decent. Also it can run Flash Cannon, Heat Wave and some other brutal special moves. A well trained Hydreigon is a total beast, mine holds a Life Orb, it was trained to be a merciless sweeper, no Fairy can switch in safely, gave me at least 10 victories online. No boosts, no weather, no hazards, solo Hydreigon. Battle Tree, all-out attacking with my Life Orb Hydreigon as the ace, my Scarfed Timid Gardevoir as the lead and Mega Blaziken as the anti-Steel, the order is: "Leave no survivors".
Edit: Hydreigon can learn Focus Energy and hold a Scope Lens for a guaranteed critical hit with Draco Meteor.
Nice team.
Your Hydreigon gives me fear. For this i am grateful
And with the SwSh addition of Nasty Plot to its already impressive toolkit, you've got yourself a regular OU Pokemon
@@Damascene_ Hey, got a brand new Hydreigon. A mixed Scope Lens + Focus Energy (100% critical hit), to ignore debuffs from Draco Meteor and Superpower.
Actually, not EV invested Choice Scarf Hydreigon has 348 Speed, equal to not EV invested *156* Base Speed. If Hydreigon is EV invested, then it's Speed with Choice Scarf is equal 443, equivalent to not EV invested Base *204* Speed.
The Special Attack with Choice Specs are (not invested and invested) 429 and 524 respectively, which equals to not invested Base Special Attack of *197* for not invested and *244* for invested
Choice items increase NOT base stats, but stays after all calculations. The same goes for Special Defense Boost given by Assault Vest or Sandstorm for Rock-type Pokemon
All calculations were made taking into account that in every instance, IV for every stat was maximum (31), and Nature was neutral
Ghetsis: *exists in USUM*
Me: Oh no... *has terrifying childhood flashbacks of Gen 5* ...I'm dead.
Ghetsis: *assaults Lillie*
Me: *Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru.*
Ghetsis: *NANI?!*
Colress:omae we no I shineiru
Ghestsis:N-nani!!!!
I don’t care was going to happen with Lillie I was like ok boomer do whatever you want with that girl for me is worthless
Me : play giorno theme
@Diego vs the world
Ghetsis: I’ll kill this girl
Sun: You’re supposed to say that after you’ve done it. In the world of gangsters, that is.
I know Ghetsis was the real villain from Gen5, but can you imagine what if N had a place in this, and his theme revamped for USUM, considering how hair-raising and lowkey terrifying his theme was in B/W? The idea alone kinda gives me chills.
If N had been featured in gen 7, he probably would've been more along the lines of how he was in BW2... where he's really not scary at all.
Stop giving me reasons to want Adventures to have an anime.
Sheesh did N get a boost in playing mind games. Ghestsis gets even worse somehow.
Pokémon sword and shield the team plasma logo contains both a sword and shield
@@williamhutton242 IF N IS IN SW/SH I WILL FANGIRL
@@artofthepossible7329 Adventures can get dark as hell, I love it. Guzma *beating himself up due to his traumatic childhood* when he lost was especially unnerving, even with how he tells his Pokemon they still tried their best.
Let me tell you all a story. When I was maybe 7 or 8 I was playing through Pokémon Black which was my first mainline series games. I grew up with gen 5. Ghetsis and his Eelektross was really annoying. I could barely stand a chance I always kept losing. It took me weeks to beat Ghetsis.
Same story here but in Black 2 and with that stupid Toxic, Protect and Leftovers
Cofagrigus
Ghetsis: *threatens to hurt lillie if i don't trow my pokeballs away*
Me: *YOUR LIFE FREE TRIAL HAS ENDED*
Theatens to "KILL" Lille actually.
Dude, it won't end well, you better stay away from him
Ugh, this is literally the best boss of all Pokemon..He shows what a really greedy person is. He manipulated his adopted son into trying to control Unova, he tries to kill you in bw2 along with his son. And now he tries to kill Lillie and he knows that you’re young. This is a real villain. This is reality. He’s cold hearted and ascended the feelings of a human. No human isn’t an accurate word. He’s a monster. I wish he played a bigger role as he seemed more intimidating than anyone there. (Besides suicidal Lysandre..)
Colress appeared!
And Ghestis appeared too!
But what about N?
;-;
SushiiArts thanks
Even f**king Grimsley appeared
Even Shauna from X and Y....never appeared..
Of course he's dead. Six feet under
what the fuck undertale has to do with pokemon
Best villian!
Yuukicchi Nah mate, Miror B for the win
Yuukicchi
I have to disagree with you there: Ghetsis isn't a villain, he's a Mad Dog...
N when he was acting leader of Team Plasma, on the other hand, was way better in my honest opinion. His intentions were fundamentally wrong, but you can see where he was coming from. N was a villain that made sense, a farcry from his tyrannical terrorist father who was pretty much Proto-S/M-era Lusamine...
Yuukicchi i think Maxie and Tabitha from RSE....
Robbie Norris You can't consider N a villain though. More of an antagonistic character. Ghetsis literally manipulated N his whole life thinking he was doing justice for the Unova Region and the World. Truth V. Ideals
ThomasTheDankEngine
I know N wasn't really a villain, I'm saying when he was acting leader of Team Plasma, he was the only one amongst them to make some sense. It was a breath of fresh air to see a psycho terrorist group led by a sane man... Until I learned their _Real_ boss was a Dyed-in-the-Wool basketcase...
"Aight imma kill a kid again,imma do it right frickin no-"-Ghetsis
" * Teleports behind him * *Omae wa mou shindeiru.* "-Colress
"Nani?"-Ghetsis