Your reviews are absolutely fantastic man! Keep up the great work! This is one of the best and most thorough reviews of the p1000 pedals on all of RUclips! I can’t believe you have so few subscribers! Keep it up and the views and subs will come! I
Great review. I have these pedals and I love them, a massive upgrade from the fanatec csl load cell pedals. I replaced the throttle plate with the longer one and it feels much better. I would highly recommend you get the vibrator attachments. They work great although much better through simhub compared to the simagic software. Like you said, the heel plate is a bit short but with the longer throttle it's not that bad. I've not found any other down sides after 3 months of use.
I pretty much agree with everything you say. I got these petals about a couple months ago I got the two petal set with two haptic motors but didn't get any of the throttle or the break upgrades. I did get the Rubber elastomer and I absolutely love them. Besides the throttle being a little light. I have no complaints even hooked up the haptic motors to SIM hub. So now they work with every game.. Never had haptics before this and they feel amazing in rally. And put ABS on the brakes and traction control on your accelerator With the two motors are really really good in ACC. It helped me beat my best lap times
Probably said it before, I'll say it again - I can't believe you only have 679 subs with videos of this quality. Glad to say I'm here from the start. Have a good one 🍻
Great Review, i love the more detailed explanations especially. Bought the Fanatec CSL Elite V2 for 199€ as my first pedal set on Black Friday last year., once i upgrade sometimes in the future, i will probably go for the P1000.
@@darthsnape Right now my favourites are the Simagic Alpha Mini ~629€, Asetek La Prima 749€ (but i hate their rims, they look like toys) or the CS DD 799€. I only play on PC but kinda everything (not only hardcore sims) Dunno if 8nm CSL DD would be enough for me though.
@R4ZORLIGHT If kinda everything is your choice, then I would say Simagic is the only option to support arcade games with bad wheel support. I have been playing Snowrunner for a few days now.
You did the best job of comparing the hydraulics with the springs I’ve seen. Great video and I’ve watched way too many hours of sim racing product reviews recently.
If you are planning on not buying any upgrades for P1000s, then I’d suggest you to go for Sprint. If you plan on spending a few bucks here and there to upgrade stuff, then P1000s all the way.
Have you personally used the Sprints? I used them at a friends’ place and I really don’t like them. I don’t see the hype. Do you maybe have a few settings I can tweak so I have a better experience next time? With the feeling I have now I’d rather have my old T-LCM pedals than the sprints. But I am going to the Sim Racing Expo in October so maybe I’ll get to try out the P1000’s there and then maybe buy them.
I use Sprints on my personal rig (have been using for 2 years now) and have P1000s mounted on my secondary rig. While Sprints are praised for their durability and the level of customisation it offers, P1000 isn’t a slouch either. My Sprint have been set in a manner where after 15-20% of the travel, it will be a brick. Like a proper brick. I used plastic spacers in the end because I found them better according to my usage. There are elastomers included as well, so you can experiment it to better tune it to your liking. I too started from all elastomer layout to a more brick feeling brake. On P1000, I use all elastomers. The shape of elastomers which Simagic uses (button design) makes it feel very different from all the pedals using cylindrical elastomers. I too switched from T-LCMs to Sprint and there was definitely a learning curve. Both P1000 and Sprint are excellent set of pedals that I would recommend blindly.
Interesting review! What are your thoughts on the P1000 value for money after factoring in the additional cost of the brake and throttle upgrades? Incremental upgrades can certainly push the price higher and higher
I'd say that including the crucial (sort of) addons such as Hydraulic Throttle and brake at well under 1000USD seems like a great value. While yes, an individual can opt for transducers, the Haptic reactors aren't bad at all. Especially considering that they are Simhub compatible now. While addons might keep piling up resulting in a price bump, I would say that it offers a very particular set of customization for everyone. An individual doesn't necessarily have to buy all the addons, but I'm happy to see that Simagic is catering to all the needs *if* the simracing itch comes back.
Im think all of this explaining of throttle spring physics i boring to your family and friends and you decided to share it with your geek internet friends I Love it
Why do i always think i get scammed when i hear a Indish accent in a Video :D Jokes byside nice review. I wish Simagic will support my Channel as well but they don´t respond to me -.-
Great video production quality! Well done! Happy to have ordered the P1000 vanilla considering all the upgrades I can purchase later on as my driving skills improve…
Hello again how are you? I will probably buy them and i want to clarify something in my mind to justify the price. Whatbi dont like about my fanatec V2 is that even with the softest elastomer-spring they have very limited travel. For gt and formula is very good but fir rally and weight transfer is difficult to brake. For rallying i would like a softer pedal and cause you brake so ofter it gets tiring and i tend to brake less than i should. I hope you understand whatt um saying and do you think the P1000 would solve this problem? If so i really like the design and way simagic is going and i would like to have this pedal in my rig PS your videos are very helpfull and for some things explained i recommend your channel
Hey there. I’m doing good, and I hope you’re well too. I understand what you’re trying to say. If you have a little bit of doubt in your heart, you can get your hands on the additional spring/elastomer parts that Simagic offers. You can then choose to stick with springs or elastomers for brake. It has a lot of combinations, so I think it will not cause an issue.
Excellent analysis. I am about to pull the trigger on these. Going through other reviews, people were saying (including Dan Suzuki) that when you have brakes on load cell the brake pressure is not consistent i.e. if you have you put constant pressure the software registers the right pressure and then immediately drops a bit even though your foot has not moved. The recommendation is to use angle(this issue doesn't happen) instead of loadcell. Is that true? The reason I am asking is if I am moving from a low end Thrustmaster pedal to a Simagic one I want to be using a loadcell. I hope this makes sense.
Hi there! I didn’t find that to be the case. It could be a unit dependent issue. I believe Racebeyondmatter found it. Either way, The ones I got didn’t act funny. Or perhaps it could be a a software issue.
Hello, do you find that they are too upright as some say or they are fine? What do you think about the ergonomics of these non inverted pedals? Also will you review the hydraulic kit?
Hey tkd, I find them perfectly fine. I used them on my NLR GT track and a 4080 profile, and felt comfortable. I believe I only changed travel distance and firmness. And which hydraulic kit? Brake?
@darthsnape I was able to add them to my order. I went all in on simagic yesterday. Alpha mini, GT1, GT Neo and P1000 I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in DD coming from a t300 😎
Personally, I found the P-HTS far too weak to be of any use, and unnoticeable when driving. It could have been really good if it had higher levels of resistance.
@@darthsnape Level 6 and circuit racing. It's worth noting that I'm a big guy with big feet and use racing shoes, so it's gonna be different vs smaller feet and socks. I can definitely feel the hydraulic damping when pushing it with my hand, I just need it to have some higher settings to be effective under foot.
@@mrspangles932 I agree. Since I don't use shoes, that could be a contributing factor. When I moved back to sprint, I immediately noticed the resistance of the throttle pedal which is set to medium (around 8kgs of actual force according to HE manual).
Hey Darth Snape did you reach out to simagic to do a review because I want to review a couple of pieces from different brands but worried they would say no as I don’t have many subscribers and do subscribers even matter?
@@darthsnape Thanks man! I will give it a shot at simagic and see what happens did you do the same? Just send them an email wanting to review their stuff or?
@@P.I.D.27 I did not test the hydraulic brake kit, but I have read some mixed opinions. Some say it's great, some say it feels more or less like the brake. If you haven't tried a hydraulic brake system, I'd say give it a whirl. Maybe you'll end up liking it.
It is an update that came not so long ago, which makes Simagic only products work with arcade games with poor wheel support. The pedal should be connected directly to the base instead of computer. Similar to how a Thrustmaster functions. Connect the pedals to the base and it works.
What a great video!!!! :) Can I ask.... what do you think would be better P1000 with Hydraulic Brake (and maybe also Hydraulic Throttle) or P2000? (both are similar price in Australia). Thank you :) Don, Perth W.Australia (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)...... p.s. I've Subscribed :)
Thank you, Don. I would say both are very good options. Only difference would be that P1000s have a 100kg loadcell on brake by default (can purchase 200kg as addon) and on P2000 (equipped with a 200kg loadcell on brake) you get triple loadcell. Meaning all pedals have loadcells. P1000s have loadcell + hall sensor on brake, and only hall sensors on throttle and clutch. Not that it makes that big of a difference. If budget isn’t an issue, it ultimately comes down to what you find aesthetically pleasing. Since hydraulic throttle comes by default in P2000, you’d only have to pay for the hydraulic brake. Both are extremely compelling offerings.
Found your channel looking into the r12 vs simagic bases. I really like your style. I think the other channels where they film themselves talking is distracting.
Thank you! And yes, it is filled with Nitrogen gas. I’m unaware of the exact mechanism, but it is a Nitrogen gas spring (despite the name, it doesn’t have an actual spring inside)
This may be an odd question but does anyone know if you can use the p1000 clutch pedal individualy (directly connected to the pc via usb without the brake and gas pedals)? I have the opportunity to upgrade my 2 pedals set (moza srp) with a simagic p1000 clutch. I don't want to buy a complete set of pedals for the moment so this could be a nice upgrade if it works individualy. Thanks in advance,
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Excellent Review, extremely well produced with tons of great info. Well done and Simagic should be grateful for your work.
Thanks Mark. I appreciate it.
Your channel deserves a lot more subs with content like this. I hope people catch on.
Thanks. I hope so too!
Your reviews are absolutely fantastic man! Keep up the great work! This is one of the best and most thorough reviews of the p1000 pedals on all of RUclips! I can’t believe you have so few subscribers! Keep it up and the views and subs will come!
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Thank you, Alec, that means a lot 😄
Thank you so much for an excellent review with a brilliant explanations!
I'm glad you liked it!
Great review. The humour won me over.
Thank you very much
Im using vrs pedals i enjoyed watching this review all the same very thourough and well thought out.
Thank you very much!
Great review and high quality video. I really want to get this pedal set
Thanks! These pedals are really good.
Great review. I have these pedals and I love them, a massive upgrade from the fanatec csl load cell pedals.
I replaced the throttle plate with the longer one and it feels much better. I would highly recommend you get the vibrator attachments. They work great although much better through simhub compared to the simagic software.
Like you said, the heel plate is a bit short but with the longer throttle it's not that bad. I've not found any other down sides after 3 months of use.
I have been eyeing the long plate throttle and haptic reactors. Are you using the hydraulic brake?
@@darthsnape yes, I've got the hydraulic brake but not the hydraulic throttle.
hahaha was not expecting the Pokemon connection, made me chuckle and definitely applies. Great Stuff.
Haha, thanks Chris. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Can you share where you bought the add-ons from? I also live in India. I couldn't find it on virtual racing hub.
I got it directly from Simagic. You can ask VRH if they can make the addon available for you.
@@darthsnape oh cool! Will you add haptics in the future?
@harshapatil5506 I’m very much looking forward to it.
@@darthsnape looking forward to your review
Don’t understand the pokememon references.
Must be a young thing.
Could be. But I hope you found rest of the video enjoyable.
I pretty much agree with everything you say. I got these petals about a couple months ago I got the two petal set with two haptic motors but didn't get any of the throttle or the break upgrades. I did get the Rubber elastomer and I absolutely love them. Besides the throttle being a little light. I have no complaints even hooked up the haptic motors to SIM hub. So now they work with every game.. Never had haptics before this and they feel amazing in rally. And put ABS on the brakes and traction control on your accelerator With the two motors are really really good in ACC. It helped me beat my best lap times
Thanks Bear! I'll definitely try out the Haptic Reactors soon. I'm loving these pedals.
I got the P1000 inverted Hydraulic brake set (P1000i RS) and I couldn't be happier with them.
I would love to try the inverted set some day. Have you used normal pedals before getting P1000i?
Probably said it before, I'll say it again - I can't believe you only have 679 subs with videos of this quality. Glad to say I'm here from the start. Have a good one 🍻
Thanks a lot! I'll continue to put more efforts 🥂
775@@darthsnape
@shanesyoutube I’m grateful for the love everyone has shown. 😄
feel the same. I looked down saw only 231 likes and couldnt believe how little. Great video.
@kylew1219 I’ll continue to improve so we all can see those good numbers!
Great Review, i love the more detailed explanations especially.
Bought the Fanatec CSL Elite V2 for 199€ as my first pedal set on Black Friday last year., once i upgrade sometimes in the future, i will probably go for the P1000.
Thanks!
From CSL Elite V2 to P1000s. That would be a nice upgrade.
@@darthsnape Yeah, but i am still in the process of getting a base. Wanted to go for the Fanatec CS DD 12nm but they raised prices far too much.
@R4ZORLIGHT You can also take a look at Asetek bases. I heard that they got a massive discount across all products.
@@darthsnape Right now my favourites are the Simagic Alpha Mini ~629€, Asetek La Prima 749€ (but i hate their rims, they look like toys) or the CS DD 799€. I only play on PC but kinda everything (not only hardcore sims)
Dunno if 8nm CSL DD would be enough for me though.
@R4ZORLIGHT If kinda everything is your choice, then I would say Simagic is the only option to support arcade games with bad wheel support. I have been playing Snowrunner for a few days now.
You did the best job of comparing the hydraulics with the springs I’ve seen. Great video and I’ve watched way too many hours of sim racing product reviews recently.
Thank you very much. More to come soon!
Hi, Would you choose the sprints or these? I’m personally leaning more towards these but I want to know your opinion. Thanks!
If you are planning on not buying any upgrades for P1000s, then I’d suggest you to go for Sprint. If you plan on spending a few bucks here and there to upgrade stuff, then P1000s all the way.
Have you personally used the Sprints? I used them at a friends’ place and I really don’t like them. I don’t see the hype. Do you maybe have a few settings I can tweak so I have a better experience next time? With the feeling I have now I’d rather have my old T-LCM pedals than the sprints. But I am going to the Sim Racing Expo in October so maybe I’ll get to try out the P1000’s there and then maybe buy them.
I use Sprints on my personal rig (have been using for 2 years now) and have P1000s mounted on my secondary rig.
While Sprints are praised for their durability and the level of customisation it offers, P1000 isn’t a slouch either. My Sprint have been set in a manner where after 15-20% of the travel, it will be a brick. Like a proper brick. I used plastic spacers in the end because I found them better according to my usage. There are elastomers included as well, so you can experiment it to better tune it to your liking. I too started from all elastomer layout to a more brick feeling brake.
On P1000, I use all elastomers. The shape of elastomers which Simagic uses (button design) makes it feel very different from all the pedals using cylindrical elastomers.
I too switched from T-LCMs to Sprint and there was definitely a learning curve. Both P1000 and Sprint are excellent set of pedals that I would recommend blindly.
Interesting review! What are your thoughts on the P1000 value for money after factoring in the additional cost of the brake and throttle upgrades? Incremental upgrades can certainly push the price higher and higher
I'd say that including the crucial (sort of) addons such as Hydraulic Throttle and brake at well under 1000USD seems like a great value. While yes, an individual can opt for transducers, the Haptic reactors aren't bad at all. Especially considering that they are Simhub compatible now.
While addons might keep piling up resulting in a price bump, I would say that it offers a very particular set of customization for everyone. An individual doesn't necessarily have to buy all the addons, but I'm happy to see that Simagic is catering to all the needs *if* the simracing itch comes back.
Im think all of this explaining of throttle spring physics i boring to your family and friends and you decided to share it with your geek internet friends
I Love it
😅 I was afraid it might be too much but, I’m glad that isn’t the case.
@@darthsnape It depends on the person
I like getting in a lot of detail and i like when someone do it
I have to say I enjoy your humour being British this is how many of my Asian friends make me laugh so glad I found the channel ❤
Thanks for the thorough review ❤
Thanks Sander.
@@darthsnape I'm happy I found your channel because I love simracing and my wife is from India so your voice reminds her of home 👍🏽
Why do i always think i get scammed when i hear a Indish accent in a Video :D
Jokes byside nice review. I wish Simagic will support my Channel as well but they don´t respond to me -.-
Lol. I don't blame you. Indian scammers are all over the place.
Also, Thank you very much!
Great video production quality! Well done! Happy to have ordered the P1000 vanilla considering all the upgrades I can purchase later on as my driving skills improve…
Thank you! And happy racing ;)
Hello again how are you?
I will probably buy them and i want to clarify something in my mind to justify the price.
Whatbi dont like about my fanatec V2 is that even with the softest elastomer-spring they have very limited travel.
For gt and formula is very good but fir rally and weight transfer is difficult to brake.
For rallying i would like a softer pedal and cause you brake so ofter it gets tiring and i tend to brake less than i should.
I hope you understand whatt um saying and do you think the P1000 would solve this problem?
If so i really like the design and way simagic is going and i would like to have this pedal in my rig
PS your videos are very helpfull and for some things explained i recommend your channel
Hey there. I’m doing good, and I hope you’re well too.
I understand what you’re trying to say. If you have a little bit of doubt in your heart, you can get your hands on the additional spring/elastomer parts that Simagic offers. You can then choose to stick with springs or elastomers for brake. It has a lot of combinations, so I think it will not cause an issue.
Excellent analysis. I am about to pull the trigger on these. Going through other reviews, people were saying (including Dan Suzuki) that when you have brakes on load cell the brake pressure is not consistent i.e. if you have you put constant pressure the software registers the right pressure and then immediately drops a bit even though your foot has not moved. The recommendation is to use angle(this issue doesn't happen) instead of loadcell. Is that true? The reason I am asking is if I am moving from a low end Thrustmaster pedal to a Simagic one I want to be using a loadcell. I hope this makes sense.
Hi there! I didn’t find that to be the case. It could be a unit dependent issue. I believe Racebeyondmatter found it. Either way, The ones I got didn’t act funny. Or perhaps it could be a a software issue.
How do you have so much travel in your brake? I have put all black (softest) elastomers and still it's super hard and barely any travel. Pls help!
Hey there, have you tried adjusting the preload?
And also a quick question, the pedal is mounted to a solid surface, right?
From a new sub, cheers and congrats on a great review! Looking forward to more from you!!
💪🏼Thanks. I appreciate it!
Well done. Your reviews are the most informative I've seen, its like boosted media but shorter.
Thanks V
@@darthsnape and funnier
Hello, do you find that they are too upright as some say or they are fine?
What do you think about the ergonomics of these non inverted pedals?
Also will you review the hydraulic kit?
Hey tkd, I find them perfectly fine. I used them on my NLR GT track and a 4080 profile, and felt comfortable. I believe I only changed travel distance and firmness.
And which hydraulic kit? Brake?
@@darthsnape Yes, brake kit
Thank you for anwering
Probably people who find them uncomfortable have shitty rigs
It could be more about the seating angle than rig, considering the amount of "posture check" posts on reddit.
3:44 look at the video of the homepage. you can change the distance!!!
Which is why I measured end to end. Not just the part where my heel rest is mounted.
The pen flip was a unnecessary flex, but still cool as hell.
Haha, thanks!
Would you recommend the optional Spring and rubber spacer pack that's available
Absolutely! You can get even close to what braking feel you prefer. Only springs, only elastomers or a mix of both.
@darthsnape I was able to add them to my order. I went all in on simagic yesterday. Alpha mini, GT1, GT Neo and P1000
I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in DD coming from a t300 😎
@RowdyBurnz Coming from T3000/TX myself, I can assure you, you’re in for a treat! Also, congratulations on your new setup!
Personally, I found the P-HTS far too weak to be of any use, and unnoticeable when driving.
It could have been really good if it had higher levels of resistance.
Interesting. What level do you usually use it at? And for what discipline?
@@darthsnape Level 6 and circuit racing.
It's worth noting that I'm a big guy with big feet and use racing shoes, so it's gonna be different vs smaller feet and socks.
I can definitely feel the hydraulic damping when pushing it with my hand, I just need it to have some higher settings to be effective under foot.
@@mrspangles932 I agree. Since I don't use shoes, that could be a contributing factor. When I moved back to sprint, I immediately noticed the resistance of the throttle pedal which is set to medium (around 8kgs of actual force according to HE manual).
How is this dude have
I have been wondering that myself lately 👀
Wow 20% plus 50% plus 40% hey.
The only 110 out of 100 scale ever
👀 I hoped no one would notice lol
@@darthsnape haha
Hey Darth Snape did you reach out to simagic to do a review because I want to review a couple of pieces from different brands but worried they would say no as I don’t have many subscribers and do subscribers even matter?
Hey Rhain, I think you shouldn’t worry. I’m not entirely sure if sub count matters or not. But it’s worth a shot.
@@darthsnape Thanks man! I will give it a shot at simagic and see what happens did you do the same? Just send them an email wanting to review their stuff or?
@rhainwallacekarting More or less, haha.
@@darthsnape hahaha thanks man you have given me the courage to reach out for them I will let you know how it goes I guess 😅
Do you think P1000 pedals are upgrade coming from Fanatec CSL Elite v2 ?
With addons, absolutely.
Without addons, imo, also yes.
Do you think it is worth buy p1000 with HYDRAULIC BRAKING SYSTEM ? Some reviews say it is not worth?@@darthsnape
And what is your opinion about Hydraulic brake kit, is it worth it ? Or just buy regular P1000 ? @@darthsnape
@@P.I.D.27 I did not test the hydraulic brake kit, but I have read some mixed opinions. Some say it's great, some say it feels more or less like the brake.
If you haven't tried a hydraulic brake system, I'd say give it a whirl. Maybe you'll end up liking it.
How are you able to get pedals on snowrunner? I thought it wouldnt allow for wheel and pedal? ty!
It is an update that came not so long ago, which makes Simagic only products work with arcade games with poor wheel support.
The pedal should be connected directly to the base instead of computer. Similar to how a Thrustmaster functions. Connect the pedals to the base and it works.
@@darthsnape Thank you. I have an alpha mini and sprints, so i can connect them to the mini?
Sadly, the pedals have to be Simagic. No other pedal would work.
What a great video!!!! :) Can I ask.... what do you think would be better P1000 with Hydraulic Brake (and maybe also Hydraulic Throttle) or P2000? (both are similar price in Australia). Thank you :) Don, Perth W.Australia (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)...... p.s. I've Subscribed :)
Thank you, Don. I would say both are very good options. Only difference would be that P1000s have a 100kg loadcell on brake by default (can purchase 200kg as addon) and on P2000 (equipped with a 200kg loadcell on brake) you get triple loadcell. Meaning all pedals have loadcells. P1000s have loadcell + hall sensor on brake, and only hall sensors on throttle and clutch.
Not that it makes that big of a difference. If budget isn’t an issue, it ultimately comes down to what you find aesthetically pleasing. Since hydraulic throttle comes by default in P2000, you’d only have to pay for the hydraulic brake. Both are extremely compelling offerings.
Definite getting better! Keep it up guy
Thanks Bandit!
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Thanks!
Found your channel looking into the r12 vs simagic bases. I really like your style. I think the other channels where they film themselves talking is distracting.
Thanks, Welcome aboard!
Great review, great humor, and great editing... I'm sure glad I came across your channel. +1 sub!
Thank you very much!
Have you used Simforge? They seem real value for money in India if you ask me (No Import Duty).
Hey 👋🏼
I haven’t tried them. I did get a review unit but because it was busted, I sent them back. I’ll see if I can get a second look.
Awesome video dude. Isn’t this throttle mod,pneumatic as it’s filled with a gas not a fluid.
Thank you! And yes, it is filled with Nitrogen gas. I’m unaware of the exact mechanism, but it is a Nitrogen gas spring (despite the name, it doesn’t have an actual spring inside)
This may be an odd question but does anyone know if you can use the p1000 clutch pedal individualy (directly connected to the pc via usb without the brake and gas pedals)? I have the opportunity to upgrade my 2 pedals set (moza srp) with a simagic p1000 clutch. I don't want to buy a complete set of pedals for the moment so this could be a nice upgrade if it works individualy.
Thanks in advance,
I don’t think that would be possible as the clutch can only be operated by the control box on P1000s. I don’t think mix and match will work.
@@darthsnape thats what i feared. Thanks for the input!
P=petals
P=Pokemon also
Great review. Your channel is going to be bigger, just a matter of time.
Thanks a lot man. I appreciate it!
So it can basically simulate rev hand like an electronic TB does
I'd say it is close. But it's hard to say as not all electronic TBs behave the same.
Great video bud. New subscriber here!
Thanks man!😄