You should set aside an evening sometime and watch the 1974 Monaco Grand Prix if you haven't already. Back then, powersliding wasn't how you saved an otherwise fast lap, _it was how you set a fast lap to begin with_
i would say the 1996 Ferrari he was driving, was not the car he liked. It probably was naturally oversteering more than he liked, yet he controlled it, pushing it beyond its normal limits.
Gerhard Berger sliding all around Monaco Cirquit ... those were the days where there was no highlights after the races because the races itself were packed with action. Two hours of pure excitement ... and today, hm?
I'd say the focus has shifted over the years. Nowadays the entertainment aspect of the sport seems to be all about (DRS-assisted) overtakes and the tactical game. People are always talking about how we need more overtakes. Back in the 90's there were less overtakes and tactics were more basic and less discussed about. But on the other hand, just watching the cars being driven around the track was much more entertaining, so that kind of made up for it. Personally, I think overtakes are a bit overrated anyway. When it comes to racing, I care more about the battles - one driver is defending, the other is looking for a way to get past. Sometimes the overtake happens, but that's not as important as the battle itself. DRS allows faster cars to overtake and build gap to slower cars more quickly, which reduces the time drivers are actually fighting for positions. I think the one thing which DRS genuinely improves are those rare situations when cars with evenly matched pace race against each other.
Actually sliding is slower than grip driving time wise..(not talking about slight over steer) And the sport has been doing it’s best to reduce the chances of having to do it. That’s why the way cars run looks boring.
@@Pradozj22 I wish they had cameras on Gilles front the front side. One of my favorite slides ever. www.lesderapages.com/hot/top-21-des-drifts-ou-accidents-evites-en-formule1-f1-en-gif-3757.html#item=3
@@AndyFromBeaverton oh 100%. How crisp that powerslide was with the amount of angle, speed and the way he snaps it back without losing much speed is awesome. If only Formula one had shorter wheelbases and less downforce, I’m hoping next years start of the new age ground affect era will bring back those amazing slides.
Even though Alesi was one of my favorite drivers... he had nothing on Schumacher. Jean was overdriving his cars. Constantly. Schumacher always knew about his and the cars limits. The way he played with this terrible 96 Ferrari in the rain... man, this guy must be an alien.
Apparently he could have stayed for 1996, but he did not want to be a second driver. Similarly to you, I was a fan, but he was really fighting with the car, rather than driving them and there are rumours that he was not great in setting up the car. There was one video on Driver61's channel about driving on the limit does not mean sliding constantly and he explained pretty well why Jean's style was ineffective. Besides, the V12 made the car really unstable during deceleration which was not liked by neither Berger or Alesi. However, this did work with MS's driving style and he really liked the V12 and preferred over the new V10. Unfortunately making the car instable wasn't the only issue withe V12. It was heavy, drank a lot and lost quite a bit of its power during a race.
Micheal driving with an over steering style is actually really smart. Think about it if he is getting as much power down as he can without slipping, he is putting the car to the absolute limit and leaving each corner as fast as the tires allow him. Very smart
Shame that brilliant Alesi never became World champion. He was one who had it in him. But damn, I miss the late 80's/ beginning 90's F1. (Mansell, Alesi, Berger, and of course Ayrton Senna!!) That kind of F1 is never to be seen again, cars of today do not tolerate that aggressive style.
In all my years watching F1, I have never seen anyone with better car control than Jean Alesi. I wish I was around when Gilles Villeneuve was driving, as he was pretty insane too apparently.
I simply cannot believe I found this video! I was there at Estoril at that corner (timestamp in video: 6:53) and saw this succession of outrageous power slides from Berger. I was 15 back then, but that's one of the things I vividly remember from that weekend!
His own fault. He had an offer from Williams but went to the mess that was Ferrari instead. That was a mistake which destroyed his career. I don't really understand that decision. Brilliant driver, but his passion betrayed him. It's a crying shame we never got to see him in a dominant Williams, just imagine...
Alesi drove the 1995 Ferrari the one which Schumacher tested at the end of 95 when he joined the team and said he would've won the championship easily in that 1995 Ferrari compared to his Benetton
Hahah, I still can remember an article in an F1 Racing Magazine in '96 about how F1 cars can't really do a powerslide anymore. And now I'm here, 21 years later, watching a video where Schumacher is sliding around in his F310 like a crazy.
Schumacher's 1996 footage shows what a pile of shit that Ferrari was in that year, Michael had to drive that thing past the limit so much to be barely able to compete with the 2 Williams
Alesi on the ragged edge was a joy to behold, that 412T2 may be beautiful but it was not easy to throw around and slide the way he did, I've never seen anyone drive like that since (probably because the tyres wouldn't last) but its just astonishing.
In France, everyone see him as a driver who only could crash. That's so stupid... Hopefully the french press dont spread his own sh*t around the world.
Bad luck lol. He was handed a Williams drive on a plate but rejected the offer to go to the Ferrari mess because passion and shit. His own fault, simple as that...
If there were points for powerslides and style. Alesi would be king . Off the charts with his throwing that Ferrrari around. As much as it killed his times, it was GLORIOUS to watch 👏👏👏👏👏
A lot of this no longer happens after the 'big cars' came in 2017. Shame! The big tires, aero and whatnot somehow make it impossible to have actual slides without nearly loosing it or loosing a bunch of time!
Old_Race_Pic_Stories The cars back then didnt have as much power or grip as the cars in the video. Its harder to drive an early 90’s f1 car to the limit due to the twitchiness and the huge power.
Everything is relative. People were then comparing to 60s/70s. The same is true today, they over steer even less today than in 90s and 2000s. You kind of have to watch with much more sensitive eyes and process with higher speed/time.
We just don't see this kind of magnificent driving in F1 anymore. In-car nowadays the drivers look like they're out for a cruise in the 'burbs. No more heel and toe downshifting in the corner set-up, no more feathering the throttle as the car is balanced on a knife edge while drifting through the corner, no more power slides to the exit with opposite lock while feeding in the throttle to carry as much speed as possible onto the straight. I'm not saying today's drivers aren't good. Lewis Hamilton, Verstappen, et al yes, of course they're good, but I don't think Hamilton would have the record he does without Mercedes, and I doubt any driver today could beat the likes of Senna, Stewart, or Schumacher over the course of a season in real race cars.
excuse me but these ARE F1 DRIVERS these guys DID ABSOLUTELY DRIVE THEIR CARS and were not being driven by them. Pure car control and balls of steel. No contest when compared with 2020s kiddos.
Berger had some really nice powerslides here, great stuff.
CT
Sliding is one thing but it takes a little bit more than a man with two sacks to slide around monaco.
You should set aside an evening sometime and watch the 1974 Monaco Grand Prix if you haven't already. Back then, powersliding wasn't how you saved an otherwise fast lap, _it was how you set a fast lap to begin with_
Sacks?
@@solomon6082male balls
@@pencil_1272 🤣
@@pencil_1272 Damn, that makes four then
When you watch Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger in that 95 Ferrari and his Benneton, you just wish modern F1 was like this.
Berger with that Ferrari is pure entertainment.
Berger drifting in Monaco 95 was insane!!! Big balls right there.
I heard Schumacher had an oversteery style but this video takes that to another level.
Great job with that compilation :D
Panther sdkfz yeah he used the throttle to push the car round the corners!! well u do need to be on the throttle to have a fast lap.
It's one thing to setup the car to have a loose rear end and another thing to do a powerslide. But you are right about MS.
i would say the 1996 Ferrari he was driving, was not the car he liked. It probably was naturally oversteering more than he liked, yet he controlled it, pushing it beyond its normal limits.
Schumacher was the only driver to completely stay on-line while sliding the car. Legend.
Gerhard Berger sliding all around Monaco Cirquit ... those were the days where there was no highlights after the races because the races itself were packed with action. Two hours of pure excitement ... and today, hm?
You obviously did not watch F1 races back in the days... Most of the time a Sunday nap, except for one or two memorable grand prix per season
I'd say the focus has shifted over the years. Nowadays the entertainment aspect of the sport seems to be all about (DRS-assisted) overtakes and the tactical game. People are always talking about how we need more overtakes. Back in the 90's there were less overtakes and tactics were more basic and less discussed about. But on the other hand, just watching the cars being driven around the track was much more entertaining, so that kind of made up for it.
Personally, I think overtakes are a bit overrated anyway. When it comes to racing, I care more about the battles - one driver is defending, the other is looking for a way to get past. Sometimes the overtake happens, but that's not as important as the battle itself. DRS allows faster cars to overtake and build gap to slower cars more quickly, which reduces the time drivers are actually fighting for positions. I think the one thing which DRS genuinely improves are those rare situations when cars with evenly matched pace race against each other.
2017-2020 hamilton started on pole And wins! 2022, 2023 Verstappen started on pole and wins!
Actually sliding is slower than grip driving time wise..(not talking about slight over steer) And the sport has been doing it’s best to reduce the chances of having to do it. That’s why the way cars run looks boring.
7:45
the best drift combo of all time: monaco + ferrari 412
Slide*
@@Pradozj22 I wish they had cameras on Gilles front the front side. One of my favorite slides ever. www.lesderapages.com/hot/top-21-des-drifts-ou-accidents-evites-en-formule1-f1-en-gif-3757.html#item=3
Villeneuve
Gorgeous car, but the fact that it was almost 3 seconds slower than the Williams is staggering
@@AndyFromBeaverton oh 100%. How crisp that powerslide was with the amount of angle, speed and the way he snaps it back without losing much speed is awesome. If only Formula one had shorter wheelbases and less downforce, I’m hoping next years start of the new age ground affect era will bring back those amazing slides.
Even though Alesi was one of my favorite drivers... he had nothing on Schumacher. Jean was overdriving his cars. Constantly. Schumacher always knew about his and the cars limits. The way he played with this terrible 96 Ferrari in the rain... man, this guy must be an alien.
@leone7227 Lets face it: No one ever looked more like a Ferrari Driver than Alesi. No wonder you loved him
Alesi is one of the worst drivers of that era, it was such an accomplishment to underachieve that much with the best car.
@@RiFLEisFortuna sorry I don't think so. Watch him in the Tyrell!
Apparently he could have stayed for 1996, but he did not want to be a second driver. Similarly to you, I was a fan, but he was really fighting with the car, rather than driving them and there are rumours that he was not great in setting up the car. There was one video on Driver61's channel about driving on the limit does not mean sliding constantly and he explained pretty well why Jean's style was ineffective. Besides, the V12 made the car really unstable during deceleration which was not liked by neither Berger or Alesi. However, this did work with MS's driving style and he really liked the V12 and preferred over the new V10. Unfortunately making the car instable wasn't the only issue withe V12. It was heavy, drank a lot and lost quite a bit of its power during a race.
It surprised me a bit not see more Senna footage. Because he was the master of drifting, power slides, and nobody could touch him in the wet.
Micheal driving with an over steering style is actually really smart. Think about it if he is getting as much power down as he can without slipping, he is putting the car to the absolute limit and leaving each corner as fast as the tires allow him. Very smart
Power > Grip = Magic (n/a engine powered era)
Grip > Power = Boring (modern era)
hamzterix 2009 everyone bitched. 2014 everyone bitched
alesi and berger are nuts with the throttle.
Berger was just nuts. Throttle or not. What a bloke
This video made me realise how underrated berger was.
Shame that brilliant Alesi never became World champion. He was one who had it in him. But damn, I miss the late 80's/ beginning 90's F1. (Mansell, Alesi, Berger, and of course Ayrton Senna!!) That kind of F1 is never to be seen again, cars of today do not tolerate that aggressive style.
Berger at Monaco was insane.
I love John Watson´s Reactions
I just watched 9 minutes of F1 cars getting sketchy....and I'm not the least bit embarrassed about it.
Gerhard Berger and Jean Alesi was amazing...:D
when the driver and machine are one, great video
Hachi Roku indeed
I used to love John Watson's commentary on Eurosport.
Classic F1. Happy days.
GLORIOUS
7:45 no words for that
miss Michael Schumacher :")
miss Senna and Schumacher :)
miss Gerhard,,,,
Not dead, yet.
Rip
Still not dead
I can't believe I found this video! I vividly remember that series of power slides from Berger in Estoril at time 6:55! It was simply amazing!
This was racing! What is even tyre management?
7:47 I'm just speechless, really magnificient work!
In all my years watching F1, I have never seen anyone with better car control than Jean Alesi. I wish I was around when Gilles Villeneuve was driving, as he was pretty insane too apparently.
terkmadugga spectacular but never efficient
myself no power slides are efficient. That's the whole point
Senna
Alesi literally drove like this all the time! Fantastic to watch. Also remember watching Berger at Monaco live on Eurosport
Rip schumacher. Rip senna. My 2 fav drivers of all time. I really miss seeing that red and white with the names i like on them.
I simply cannot believe I found this video! I was there at Estoril at that corner (timestamp in video: 6:53) and saw this succession of outrageous power slides from Berger. I was 15 back then, but that's one of the things I vividly remember from that weekend!
The F310 might not of been the best Ferrari but Schumacher made it look like it was.
You just knew Alesi and Berger would be heavily featured 😎
It's a shame that Jean Alesi never had a car to fight for championship. He was a excelent driver, one of the bests that I ever have seen
like Villeneuve...always Pedal to the Metal....superb Car-Control......veryvery spectacular......but, sorry no-one that wins Championchips.....
His own fault. He had an offer from Williams but went to the mess that was Ferrari instead. That was a mistake which destroyed his career. I don't really understand that decision. Brilliant driver, but his passion betrayed him. It's a crying shame we never got to see him in a dominant Williams, just imagine...
Alesi drove the 1995 Ferrari the one which Schumacher tested at the end of 95 when he joined the team and said he would've won the championship easily in that 1995 Ferrari compared to his Benetton
Because Frank Williams did not sign his own offered contract on time. There wasn't any choice.
I would rather see Alesi won in Williams than undeserving champions like D. Hill and Villenueve.
Alesi, Berger, Rosberg and not to forget Nelson Piquet, the masters of powerslide in formula one.
Schumacher: the king of f1 drifting
God I love those V12 engines
Yeah that's real F1. It's such a shame that modern F1 is so horrible by comparison.
Damn v12 nice
Hahah, I still can remember an article in an F1 Racing Magazine in '96 about how F1 cars can't really do a powerslide anymore. And now I'm here, 21 years later, watching a video where Schumacher is sliding around in his F310 like a crazy.
Schumacher's 1996 footage shows what a pile of shit that Ferrari was in that year, Michael had to drive that thing past the limit so much to be barely able to compete with the 2 Williams
way more entertaining than current F1
schumacher was truly another league
The wet race where Alesi was in 2nd was Schumeys best performance ever.
Alesi on the ragged edge was a joy to behold, that 412T2 may be beautiful but it was not easy to throw around and slide the way he did, I've never seen anyone drive like that since (probably because the tyres wouldn't last) but its just astonishing.
Alesi- hold my beer...
7:45 that's the F1 that I like
Ayrton Senna The King
'this is what formula 1 ought to be about'
For me pushing an F1 car to its limits is a form of art
It's just beautiful
Jean Alesi, my favourite driver :)
In France, everyone see him as a driver who only could crash. That's so stupid...
Hopefully the french press dont spread his own sh*t around the world.
Alesi is one of the all Time Greatest...always pushing.....and a nice fellow too...!!!
A shame that he only won one race. Had luck and reliability been on his side, I reckon he could have at least 15 wins to his name.
Luck? No, it's down to disastrous team choices.
Bad luck lol. He was handed a Williams drive on a plate but rejected the offer to go to the Ferrari mess because passion and shit. His own fault, simple as that...
I once had a 2 seater ride with alesi and had the privilege of a power slide
Schumacher. The best ever!
Piquet 1986 Hungary.
F1 drivers: ho my god....almost lost it !
Gilles Villeneuve : my every day job......
Alesi was always fun to watch
Those Ferraris sure look like a handful to drive!
Alesi is a wet God but this is a car control on an another level!
Clearly, you never saw Spain 96.
@@imax2k2 you never saw adelaide 1991 😆
Joyful to watch but gave me mixed feelings about the present day. The rawness just isn't there anymore.
3:40 is the best one... what a guy
Berger at Monaco7:45 way better
Slide at monaco need a bigballs
Where is Piquet's sliding overtake over Senna in Hungary 1986???
Theses handling are.... i can't believe it ^^
How the f*ck can they react as fast...
Amazing
B Matthieu they didn't react bro,their balls were fuckin huge enough to create downforce & sliding.lol Nothin can't beat classic pal.
Heuuuu....really, "bro" ?... ^^
Don't u have better things to do instead of breaking through an open door...
"lol"
those are not even reactions anymore that is just prediction of the future haha
Wow, what a joke...
You mean anticipate ?
... -_- Damn...
You sounds like a f*cking fool, your life must be nice
Alesi is great to watch!
More like Michael Schumacher slide collection
Ferrari's drivers are crazy. Control their cars like toy cars. Nuts.
Berger showing more confidence in his slides with more caress
I guess you learn a few things from a turbo with 1000+ bhp
That 1994 Ferrari is hand's down the best engine I have ever hear!!
All these small powerslides was done In a Grand Prix of 1960s
If there were points for powerslides and style. Alesi would be king . Off the charts with his throwing that Ferrrari around. As much as it killed his times, it was GLORIOUS to watch 👏👏👏👏👏
Where is Gilles fckn Villeneuve,powerslide nearly every race
Michael fighting so hard damn
Great to see these mid-90s cars. They were so hard to control.
A lot of this no longer happens after the 'big cars' came in 2017. Shame! The big tires, aero and whatnot somehow make it impossible to have actual slides without nearly loosing it or loosing a bunch of time!
You think they are great doing this? In the 1960s & 1970s every driver drove like this. It was just normal.
Old_Race_Pic_Stories The cars back then didnt have as much power or grip as the cars in the video. Its harder to drive an early 90’s f1 car to the limit due to the twitchiness and the huge power.
What about Gilles Villeneuve?
Masters. All of them.
Damn nowadays we don´t have this, we can see Mazepin spinning like a kid on go kart, and Schumacher with this monsters drifting like a game
Alesi senna and schumacher are the drift kings. 🔥🔥🔥
Such a cool car the 412T2
'people complain these cars don't over steer.....but they must have their eyes shut'.... John Watson.... awesome....
Everything is relative. People were then comparing to 60s/70s. The same is true today, they over steer even less today than in 90s and 2000s. You kind of have to watch with much more sensitive eyes and process with higher speed/time.
This is, in fact, what Formula 1 should be about.
Schumacher: master
The 1996 ferrari was a piece of shit
blackflagqwerty 20 Years on and so was the 2016. was an unlucky year.
Oscar Swain 1976,1986, 1996,2006,2016 unlucky years
May not have been the best car on the grid but the f310 won 3 races in 1996, albeit down to schumacher more than the car, but hardly a "piece of shit"
tzsteve33 shumacher's team mate couldn't do anything with the car though
yeah i saw inteview with Irvine and he said that those cars were rubish as fuck search f1 legends irvine
Shumacher got them f1 handles😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
God, John Watson loves when he sees a car get twitchy on the kerbs. It must make him sing.
Nothing beats a Ferrari V12 powerslide
That was fuking awesome.
Great ! Pure driving! That s f1!
Where are those years? When F1 was real
We just don't see this kind of magnificent driving in F1 anymore. In-car nowadays the drivers look like they're out for a cruise in the 'burbs. No more heel and toe downshifting in the corner set-up, no more feathering the throttle as the car is balanced on a knife edge while drifting through the corner, no more power slides to the exit with opposite lock while feeding in the throttle to carry as much speed as possible onto the straight.
I'm not saying today's drivers aren't good. Lewis Hamilton, Verstappen, et al yes, of course they're good, but I don't think Hamilton would have the record he does without Mercedes, and I doubt any driver today could beat the likes of Senna, Stewart, or Schumacher over the course of a season in real race cars.
Great commentators.
The first Ferrari that Micheal drove was an absolutly disaster. No grip
Would have liked to have seen some Gilles Villeneuve clips. Great video though thanks.
I'd want John Watson to commentate on every slide and spin. He's well qualified to do so. Berger and Alesi were hugely entertaining
@1:00 is a phenomenal shot, got the car framed up just right, you can see him throw the double opposite lock, great perspective
When the engines was strong and cars/tyres shit :) Miss those years.
a second part would be awesome and with more Villeneuve stuff :D
;-)
depailler, piquet....
whatever happened to queen of Motorsports ?!?
Alesi - 27 Gilles - 27 Nothing else matters.
If F1 was like that today, people would actually watch it.
WE WANT THAT!!!
The first clip even the engine is is like woah woah woah woah 😂
excuse me but these ARE F1 DRIVERS these guys DID ABSOLUTELY DRIVE THEIR CARS and were not being driven by them.
Pure car control and balls of steel.
No contest when compared with 2020s kiddos.
Thanks man for this amazing video!!!!!