The Inaugural Flight That Ended Up Crashing | The Crash Of Bhoja Air 213
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This is the story of Bhoja air flight 213. On the 20th of april 2012 Bhoja air was gearing up for something big, their 737-200 was scheduled to fly from karachi to islamabad. The domestic flight was special for Bhoja air as it was the inaugural evening flight for the airline on this sector in more than a decade 12 years to be precise. Honestly i am surprised that they went 12 years without an evening flight. But on that april evening all of that changed. The 737 lifted off from karachi at 5:05 pm local time. As the plane climbed to 31,000 feet all the systems on the plane looked great the plane was in tip top shape and nothing looked out of the ordinary for this flight. At 6:08 pm the pilots tuned into the lahore ATIS or the automatic terminal information service. The ATIS is this automated broadcast that is sent out from an airport to update pilots about important things in the area, like in this case weather. It wasnt the best weather ahead of them. The captain goes on the PA system to let everyone know about the weather ahead of them he says ““It will be cloudy weather and thundery activity is also there and let’s see.when we reach there may be it would be raining anyway God willing after some time we will see Lahore on our right”. At this point the pilots got to know that the landing at islamabad might not go ahead as planned so the pilots got to talking about alternatives to land at, they talked about the possibility of diverting to lahore, but that might not be possible, as they found out that lahore had a sandstorm warning until 8:30 pm. Ontop of that the winds at lahore were coming in from a weird direction that the captain was not used to. As the pilots were discussing alternative airports to land at the captain randomly started singing a song. In the cockpit the alternative airport was going in concert with the captains song. The first officer asked “Sir should I take Peshawar weather” to which the captain replies “no, god will help us”. As the plane streaked towards islamabad the captain saw the weather get worse right before his eyes. As they started the descent the pilots turned on the seat belt signs. At this point the plane was in a race with the weather, a line of weather was starting form in front of them and the pilots wanted to be on the other side of that line before it became like a wall of rain. What they had ahead of them was known as a squall line, which is basically a line of thunderstorms and most pilots knew to avoid a squall line. As they punched through the turbulence the pilots sped up to 280 knots to smoothen out the bumpy ride. At this point they knew that they would have to push through the weather, no matter what they did but the captain was adamant to land at islamabad. Soon after that the pilots got in contact with islamabad approach, they wanted to know if there was a break in the squall line. If a break in the weather existed then they would be able to punch though and land at islamabad. The pilots of flight 213 were in luck. The controller said “I am observing some kind of gap (ah) between radial 160 to radial 220”. The captain had a decision to make either divert or thread the line between two thunderstorms. He chose the latter, he was gonna go for it. The controller started to give the pilots the vectors to go through the storm and to line up with runway 36.
As the plane was being battered by bad turbulence, the first officer wanted the captain to divert but the captain just said “no no we don’t have to go there, we have to land here”. He had made up his mind, this plane was gonna land at islamabad. As the initial bout of weather subsided, the captain started to relax a bit and he started chatting with the air traffic control and he also joked with the first officer. As the 737 got down to 5500 feet, the pilots started to receive signals from the ILS on the ground. They were so close to landing and the pilots began their descent down to the runway. The pilots got a weather report from Islamabad and they acknowledged they were going to go ahead with this landing. The squall line was still 10-15 miles away from the plane. The pilots knew that they were cutting it close, they said “so...we are likely to get very
close to it”. They were playing a dangerous game and they knew it. As the plane got closer to the airport it entered a cloud bank and it was battered by heavy rains. As they pushed deeper into the weather system the cockpit grew dark. In the cockpit the an alarm was heard as the plane breached 2500 feet of altitude above the ground. As they made their final turn towards to the runway. The captain turned off the autopilot and joked “what have i done?”. As the captain kept the plane under control they prepped the plane for landing, the flaps came out and the pilots made some adjustments to make sure that the plane was lined 
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"god will help us" yeah, the absolute last type of pilot I would want at the controls if I'm in the aircraft 🤦♂️
Inshaallah, everything is done by Allah. Even if you have all the controls in your hands.
@@lollmaowow2968 so Allah wanted to kill 127 innocent people?
@@lollmaowow2968 just think that one through for a moment and careful you won't get caught up in a spiral of trying to explain away all the questions that are inevitably going to come up
I've got one for you aswell
If God wants everyone to believe in him and follow his rules, since it's the right thing to do
Why didn't he choose a better way of telling us about his glory than an old book that's missing some chapters
Like he made everything right?
He controls everything right?
Why does he force people to go to hell and suffer forever?
Why does he not give all of us the knowledge about his glory in a way that'd be accessible to everyone and can't be misunderstood?
@@littleloner1159
Pilots have no control. Only God does. That is the very mentality of many people in Pakistan.
Inshallah🇵🇰
@@lollmaowow2968 So tell me, if a pilot gets in an aircraft, and sits there doing jack shit, will the aircraft start itself up, taxi to the runway and fly itself to the destination? If god controls everything then why do we need pilots in the first place? Or even truck drivers, train drivers, even you driving your own car, its all pointless right?
The Captain Afridi , I worked with him. He left aviation and became religion teacher. But he changed his mind and became Pilot again. This was his biggest mistake.
Bastard is burning in hell now
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
This sickens me. Everything he said and did in the cockpit sickens me. Astaghfirullah, gambling with people's lives like this.
@@marqfordeauto
Why would you expect anything else from a Muslim?
You don't understand Islam. Theirs is a 100% brainwashed culture. A child can not become a Muslim without comprehensive brainwashing.
The result is not only a dim witted population (Muslims have the lowest average IQ of all major religions), but one where the people pay more attention to what their life will be like after they die.
This makes them both dim witted and borderline suicidal.
Not the personality characteristics an air crew should have. And this is why.air travel to Islamic states should be avoided.
Well I would hope it was his biggest mistake can’t imagine a bigger mistake than killing your passengers
They have a saying here "God watches over a person who watches over themself."
I am not a religious person myself, but I believe it to be a more reasonable attitude than just letting the crisis situation unfold.
Do you mean the "god will help us" part? that certainly would make it less damning :D
I think Darwin was helping them.
Im from India and do believe in this exact thought
Right! Not religious either, but There's an old folk-story about a rabbi stuck in a rising flood. The neighbors yelled at him to evacuate but he refused to move because "God will help me."
The flood went up to his waist. Rescue boats were launched and they begged him to get in. "NO" he said. "God will help me."
The water got up to his neck. A rescue helicopter flew over, threw him a rope and begged him to grab the line. He said "No, God will help me."
Within hours, he was gasping for breath, fighting for his life. He drowned.
Next thing he knows, he's dead and staring at God. The rabbi is totally dismayed. "God, I believed in you 100%. Why did you abandon me?? Why didn't you help me?"
God replied: " Help you?!? You SCHMUCK! I sent you the NEIGHBOURS, A RESCUE BOAT AND A HELICOPTER YOU DUMBASS!!"
@@bluecoffee8414 I was going to post this exact joke if somebody else hadn’t already!
If you're on a flight and the captain says "God Willing..." and "God will help us" you should have flown Southwest.
If you're on the flight and the captain says "God will help us", you know you should have brought a parachute with you.
If you're on the flight and the captain says "God will help us", you know you should have driven.
The second one, yes. The first one, no. Muslims use the phrase "God willing" in the same way as we say "If all goes well".
For it is written 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test!'.
As Satan said, go jump off, for the Scriptures says God commands His angels to save you and guard you. Jesus could have jumped off that cliff, and angels might have saved Him. But no, why test God? Exactly the same situation with this : ). Psst He replied the same
@@joshisraelvillahermosa2680
Exactly
“THIS…” whenever I hear that single word introduction I KNOW it’s gonna be another one of your great videos, usually of incidents that seldom make the news!
Thanks SO much!
gonna?
@@K1OIK 🤣😂🤣😂
Yeah fr!
@@ahronrichards9611 fr?
I swear Doug Demuro stole that "this!" From this channel!
Okay Captain, which do you think will give your airline worse press? Crashing the inaugural flight and killing everyone on board, or diverting the inaugural flight because of bad weather?
Yes
Diverting is the best option
God will help us avoid the bad press.
If you're a former airforce pilot with a big ego,
admitting that you can't deliver is the worst thing I imagine.
Screw the company, screw those passengers and screw the FO.
It's all about me me me.
Say, anyone ever heard of the B-52 pilot who crashed his plane killing the entire crew just because he fantasized being a top gun fighter pilot?
Or,
the C-17 pilot who crashed his plane killing the entire crew just because he fantasized being a top gun fighter pilot?
And of course we never hear about actual fighter pilots who crash their plane killing just themselves because those incidents can be expected from time to time.
Actually both.
I don't understand this. One of the very basic things a student pilot learns is, level the wings, FULL power, raise the nose level when safe, as the airspeed comes up, start a climb,. positive rate, gear up, the flaps up as the aircraft gains altitude. It's basic airmanship. So I guess the PR was better landing at destination even though they were all killed, then diverting which would be bad PR. "Hey, we made it to Islamabad, we just didn't make it alive"
Even I learned that in X Plane.
Maybe due to inaugural flight, there might be pressures to land and not divert
@@SumitBisht0 Diverting on an inaugural flight is better than crashing on one
They should have prayed harder.
@@BGI_guy Of course, but I'm sure they weren't _intending_ to crash. They were taking chances, of course, but they undoubtedly thought they could make it.
You should not need any specific 737 training to know that you need to add power in this situation. It really boggles my mind that such a people would be allowed to drive a taxi let alone captain a 737.
My thoughts exactly!
My thoughts too. The stall recovery process in a Cessna 150 applied to this 37 would have likely resulted in a better outcome.
@@scumpoozie Me too. I had a minibike when I was a kid and this method saved me on more than one occasion. I knew another kid though who wasn't so lucky. He went into a stall and skinned one of his knees pretty badly. Unfortunately for him, he had short legs and couldn't stop the bike from falling over when he got down to about 3 kph.
A total disregard for the lives of the passengers was the real cause because if things were different the pilot will never try to fly an airplane he was not trained for.
It’s amazing because usually the aviation industry is hyper sensitive about safety issues.
I mean once on one of my first days as part of the ground crew teams I’m riding the van that’s taking us across the airfield to the next 737 max 8 that had recently landed to clean it and I spot a half full bottle of water seemingly discarded in the middle of the taxi way leading to the bottom of the runway where the planes get into position to power up along the runway and takeoff. I’m surprised so I say what I see out loud.
This made my supervisor stop the van hard and demand where I’m seeing it. He follows to where I’m pointing and then gets on the handheld radio to report it. He thanked me, but it wasn’t until later I learned that the planes were grounded and incoming planes were put in a circling holding pattern for about half an hour while the offending bottle was removed and the rest of the taxi ways, apron, aircraft stands and the runway itself were carefully examined for and more FOD then re-opened.
All that happened because a cleaner on her first week on the job had spotted something wrong and been taken seriously. That’s what the aviation industry is normally like. Safety is priority and so even the most lesser of employees are trained to look, and report even when they just feel that something isn’t right.
I’m just amazed things like this story keep on happening.
@@mikoto7693 Well, this was Pakistan. I don't know where your incident occured, but I'm guessing it was in a western country.
"A total disregard for the lives."
Well a small car can kill many people if it was driven by a drunk driver.
An engineer can make calculation mistakes then the bridge falls down killing many people.
Untrained parents keep producing more babies who turned into street beggars.
And there is no training manual for being a politician which made Sri Lanka go bankrupt.
Still pilots fly airplanes they are not trained for because of human over population.
Take care...
If either of the pilots says go-around, its a go around period. First officer called it multiple times.
My best flight experience ever was in a BAE-146 flying through a squall line on the approach to landing. The pint-sized 4 engine aircraft was absolutely in its element with every control system working its heart out to take every blow weather could provide and constantly correct roll pitch and attitude forces till achieving a perfect landing
That plane feels the safest to fly in, even compared to large jets.
I once flew on it into Bruxelles Airport. It was a bumpy ride until landing. But it made it.
The little plane that could! Great story 👍
The gross incompetence of some of these pilots is astonishing
The extreme differences in the skill levels in some of these commercial pilots is what gets me. For every Sully, Haynes, Dardano, etc., you have pilots like this captain and his crew and the two idiots on Pinnacle Airlines Flight 3701.
What I don’t understand is why there are so many “fake” pilots in that area of the world. Yeah, you can get by on inadequate training but you can also DIE! So they know they aren’t trained, or know they have a fake license but how can they not know they are risking their life?
@Benji P they put too much trust blindly on God
God wasn't flying the plane!!
As someone who studies aviation safety, halfway through the video listening to the scenario sounds like a textbook microburst. (quite literally, nose up, loss of altitude, loss of airspeed is the exact sequence brought up in more than one of my aviation textbooks) it's incredibly important for pilots to understand that you should not mess around with torrential rain. it can and will push airliners into the ground like they're paper airplanes.
As a guy who regularly used to fly through Pakistani airspace and knows a few people around their aviation industry, i can tell you that they probably have few of the best ATC's around on planet earth, who are humble, kind and respectful...But my god their aviation system is a joke and a half, and their airline procedures are farcical at best. This is coming from an Indian so take it with a pinch of salt if you want.
Pakistan is an artificial creation by globalists after they got kicked out of India.
@xargs00 I’m sure Indians bless all the planes. Puhjah or something. I got “pujahed” in my office there. They pujah the equipment then the building.
Their airforce shot down two Indian fighter jets in 2019 and captured a pilot. So at least their airforce is pretty strong. Commercial aviation will probably take a few years.
@@scwappycoco those two aircrafts should not be in air at all.... Indian government especially congress made this situation to use old outdated aircrafts, and those aircraft were malfunctioned (and they do have this history of getting malfunctioned in flight such that pilot have to eject), thus forcing pilot to eject and get caught....
@@scwappycoco last year two more pakistani pilots doomed flight with unstable (high above glideslope) approach and without landing gear, and after scratching both engines in runway (making hydraulic and oil lines puncture) they did go around to get crashed near airport
"The pilots still had no idea how to save the plane"
Disable autopilot, disable autothrottle, jam the thrust levers all the way forward, and slowly start pitching up. How is this not embedded in every pilot's brain as soon as shit like this goes down and you have a fully operational aircraft that isn't giving any trouble?
@Jaquan Kelsor bruh a fucking 12-year-old could save the plane why can't a trained professional who is in their 40s or 50s prob with 10k hrs and military experience not fuck up this much m8?
I think the FO knew as he kept saying "go around"! It's just the captain wouldn't listen.
@Jaquan Kelsor I’m sick and tired of arm chair commenters
@Jaquan Kelsor Cool Jaquan. Any insightful comments to share or do you just want to share something coming forth out of your upset mood?
@Jaquan Kelsor Some of us actually HAVE flown for airlines and HAVE experienced downbursts and survived!!
Unbelievable, they only needed more power and they couldn't even figure it out!
Exactly my thoughts! When you're about to stall like that, slam the throttles forward and keep the nose down!
@@randybobandy9208 Im not sure, on underwing mounted engines TOGA throttle with cause a violent pitch up of the nose which is of course not what you want in a stall. At least for the A320 which I am a FO, you SLOWLY increase power, allowing either a pilot to trim nose down or the auto-trim to hold the nose where it is making sure to not make the stall worse. I can imagine the procedure is similar for the 737
@@huskkyy can I ask what role autothrottle might take in this!
I'd imagine requesting a high power setting would disengage it?
@@Rapscallion2009 I’m not a pilot, but from what little I understand if the autopilot is on, and the human pilot makes a strong enough movement manually with his flight controls be it yoke or side stick then I think that will disconnect the autopilot. But nowadays the aircraft will bleep at the pilots whenever the autopilot disconnects. I’m not sure about the auto throttle though.
One of the tragic things about that flight is that Airbus has included a system that can allow one pilot to take control from the other one in emergencies. I think pilots are trained that if one sees the other doing something potentially dangerous then he can say “my aircraft” and the other one is supposed to let go of the controls. Which it sounds like the FO should have done here. But if the captain doesn’t let go, then the FO can press a button on his side stick and hold it down. While he’s doing that the aircraft will ignore all inputs from the captain side and verbally announce it he first officer side has priority control.
At that point if the captain wants control over the plane back, he has to force the FO to let go of the button by attacking him physically. Sadly, when a captain makes mistakes and the first officer doesn’t save the aircraft because he’s too scared to challenge the captain has crashed more than one airliner jet.
@@Rapscallion2009 At lease on Airbus planes, if you set the lever to toga, you’ll get full thrust no matter if auto throttle is engaged. I believe there is a TOGA button on the 737 throttle instead of a detent which commands full thrust immediately. I doubt they had auto throttle engaged in this case because it would increase power to maintain speed ignoring the AOA
I remember this crash. I heard people from the nearby village immediately rushed and picked whatever belongings they could get including cash and gold. Rescue team hadn’t even arrived.
We're merciless 😢
This is past something basic students learn. This is something anyone who even plays video games or has watched anything with an airplane knows. You always go full speed and lower the nose if you stall.
And when you hear "WINDSHEAR! WINDSHEAR!", you go full power and do a go around.
The same goes when you hear a terrain warning.
They didn't stall, and I didn't hear anything about a stall warning.
@@ntdscherer 7:03
I’m a nurse and even I know that.
you always go around as soon as you get a wind shear warning. by the time you react to the windshear alert it could be too late! let alone the gpws.
my instructor flies 737's for Alaska, and used to fly 747's for kalitta
But human psyche plays the big factor here. Isn't it.
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Tenerife, other examples from the U.S. whose names slip my mind for now... have happened aa the PIC was hell vent on either covering up on lost time... or wanting to not divert but land at the scheduled airport... so as to not mis out on suitable rostering for the near future flights.
Or simply being too exhausted to have to come back from the alternate airport or under moral or actual pressure from the company and/or the management to not increase incidental costs for the company.
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Diversions often lead to delays of subsequent flights or ancillary costs of rebooting the connecting flights of the PAX or adjusting them with flights on some other partner airline.
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I am not defending this crew.
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But just that Homo sapiens or any other thinking being are always put into subjective situations... or rather.. having to make subjective choices, take decisions which are fluid.. based on situations.
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Pardon my lack of good communication skills and poor language.
@sailaab GetThereItis takes a back seat to a lack of basic flight training and a cavalier attitude towards the power of mother nature in a tempest.
@@sailaab that's why pilots are highly trained professionals. All of those things come 2nd to the safety of the flight.
You see thunderstorms you divert. You get a windshear warning you go around.
@@sailaab Also Birgenair flight 301 where the crew refused to abort takeoff despite severe pitot tube problems because they were just itching to get home.
@@sailaab your language skills are fine!
Bhoja Air seemed to have created the perfect conditions for this accident.
hit the nail on the head
What a beautiful simulation you created, the clouds are awesome.
Right? I was watching this in awe, very beautiful
Yeah since they all (mentour pilot as well for example) use flight simulator 2020, it looks so much more like what you might see on mayday or so instead of some bloke's cheap RUclips video. Adds to the immersion a lot!
Imagine how scared the passengers must have been while flying through the storm
JC Adams: nah, they were all just sitting back there saying "inshallah" and calmly accepting their fate.
Boja twice stopped flying and currently does not operate. The owner, Mr. Boja suffered a grave tragedy when his only child & son was kidnapped and a demand was made of Rs50,000,000 which he paid only to find that his son was returned in dead cut into 5 pieces.. could this have affected the airline or was it one of the dead passengers’ loved one taking revenge.. Does anyone know any more about this?
😮 terrible!
God should not be the part of any avionics
IFR, VFR, and GFR
Redirecting a flight could have been used to get good press showing they care for safety no matter what
That's true...and the Titanic could have slowed her speed going through an ice field. But that would have put her behind schedule into port. One man gambles...many people lose. Not the first and unfortunately not the last.
Technically Bhoja Air did have a system to track the performance of a pilot, it's just that the system only reported when there was a serious accident costing the lives of many onboard and the loss of a hull. At which point such reports become irrelevant.
"He's not a good pilot."
"No?"
"No. He crashed a plane."
"Guess we shouldn't continue to use his piloting services then."
"No, no I don't think we should. We couldn't anyway, but we shouldn't too."
It's amazing that the Shaheen Air incident with the drunk captain happened two days after this one!!!!
That's Pakistan for you
Thank you! I like watching airplane disaster videos because I don't have to fly ever again. I've watched the hour long videos but I like yours. They are 10 to 15 minutes long and I get just as much information. Great job friend! I've been subbed to you for a year or so. You are the only channel like this I care to sub to...
A lot of captains with problems in the Pakistani skies, it seems ... well, formerly, anyway...
Darwin Airlines.
"No God will help us". Well, he got that right, though I think the captain meant "No, God will help us". A comma makes a big difference in meaning. Just sayin'.
Don't fly a Pakistani airline would also be a good lesson. The pilot also violated all norms of professionalism including the sterile cockpit requirement.
Exactly!!! I did fly PIA once from Islamabad to Dubai as i missed the Emirates flight… thankfully i made it alive but it was a very uncomfortable experience given the abysmal safety record in Pakistan
U are covering all the Pakistani crashes now. I appreciate it
he is covering because he want people to realize that don't take your chances for those pilots who's academic qualifications are suspicious. This covering is bringing more and more realization in the minds of people to think twice before they take any flight inside of Pakistan.
Nice explanation of the crash... And thanks for the answer to the situation... I like to hear the mistake and resolution...
Great video MACI.
We're looking forward to the Crater Lake 2; perhaps OMA to BOB.
terrain avoidance... even a private pilot knows about that, it's like the ABC, just like applying full power when you're dangerously close to the ground. It's so obvious that.. the only explanation is.. I don't know, really. That's why I try to stick to a few safe airlines when I travel which fortunately is not that often.
I love how you flew the plane and landed at the end. This computer program is sooooo amazing.it looks real. Well done on all of your videos you work really hard 👏 love the chanel
Thanks for the .. err ... scary story 😱
As always, really well researched and described. 👍
Thank you for an awesome video!!
God must have taken a day off. What bad timing!
That's my faults 😔 I took him out for a night at a strip club. Sorry.
Darwin was covering for him.
I've been around enough years that I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you try hard enough to screw up God will just go ahead and let you do it. This idiot wasn't asking God for help he was acting like God was just part of the checklist. Like God had an on-off switch in as long as it was on nothing bad was going to happen.
Another Informative and Detailed Flight Documentary. Well Done!
The key words here is
“ God/Allah will help us “
😉😉
Oh boy, this flight had so many things wrong with it that I don’t know where to start!
Awesome video as usual.. As your CRM is very important on every flights.. Despite the First officer's advice it's the captain wo crashed this plane
Also, 1.) Aviate 2.) Navigate 3.) Communicate. Not even autopilot was aviating; there wasn't anyone or anything even flying the plane. My prayers are with the souls of those who died and their loved ones. 🙏🏻 I also know it's their job, but my heart always also goes out to the investigators (and ATCs, 1st responders, etc.). This can never be easy, and I can't help but think that listening to the CVR would be one of the more difficult aspects of any investigation - literally listening to the last moments of people's lives. 💔 I hope everyone here stays safe and has a great day.
I like the one where the Pakistani pilot smashes both engines after failing to put the landing gear down then attempts a go around.
PIA 8303? The investigation isn’t finished but it’s clear it was massive pilot error/incompetence.
Stall recovery. They should teach that in flight training /s
Am I the only one who was thinking of adding power in that situation before the narrator explained it? Anyway, I worked as an intern at a PIA facility back in the day. One of the head engineers told me a story about a senior PIA pilot and it's shenanigans.
A flight was bound from Pakistan to EU. There was a senior captain and a young FO piloting the plain. As they were approaching their destination in EU, they were receiving warnings that there is a huge storm ahead and were asked to divert. Other aircrafts in the vicinity obliged, but the captain said to the FO, "Would you like to see a real storm today?", the FO said nervously.... 'oooook'
That captain took the plain through that storm and ended up battering the plane to oblivion, they landed safely though.
But what happened was the plane ended up being benched at that EU airport for repairs as it was deemed unflyable and PIA ended up paying loads of PUBLIC money because of that egotistical pilot.
Back home, he didn't even get a slap on the wrist.
And this particular video, with the inside-cabin passenger point-of-view, gives a chilling feel of the terror that wild ride caused to the victims.
The pilots weren't even intelligent enough to know their training was woefully inadequate. The fact they were air force veterans is doubly damning because their air force didn't even impart basic airmanship skills. Now, consider this: Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
Nukes and their currency is collapsing... again.
Another outstanding video
I remember when this happened my father was a investigator on this flight
🤣😂🤣😂
My great grandfather built the plane by hand.. what a cool connection
Another great video.
Another excellent video.
If a pilot ever told me that "God" would take care of things I'd be looking for a parachute.
Thanks for these great lessons.
Perfect...all I constantly heard was
.."No idea ..no idea.." damn!!!
The plane flew over our house that brutal day, had the crash occurred some five seconds earlier, it would have crashed into our house. The weather was extremely bad.
Our house is in Anchorage Islamabad and the plane crashed at Sher Dhamyal, just outside Anchorage. All planes flew over our house when Islamabad had the old Benazir Bhutto Airport and they approached for landing. The new Islamabad airport is miles outside the densely populated city.
"SCOTTY I NEED MORE POWER!!" "I jus caahn't dew it cap'n, I DEON'T HAAV THE POWHAAH!!" 😂✌️
Main reason for this crash is they weren't sufficiently trained on dealing with such weather conditions, which spooked and confused them. Also, they each have only 82 hrs experience on this newer model 737 which didn't help
Flying is physics and good decision making. Any talk of invisible man in the sky should not happen in an aircraft.
While the video was awesome as always, what is it about the blackscreen at the end? Because of the commentary, I think this was not planned. (If it really wasn't you can trim the Video via the RUclips Creator Studio itself, so you don't have to reupload it)
The most complex issues frequently have the most simplest of situation. But being able to come up with and act on those conjectures so expediently is a whole different ball game:
It seems god had other things to do instead of helping out this crew.
Also true for all the people expecting a miracle when God has already given them the solution to their problem .... smh
If God actually existed and cared he would've reached his big ass hand down from space and put the plane down on the ground like a toy.
He was covering a few shifts for the Tooth Fairy that week!
@@Phiyedough He sent Darwin to look after this one.
@@ryanvandoren1519 lmfao
"This......." - okay that's it. The plane is going to crash, they are screwed!
Seriously though, great video as always!
Honestly your video recommendations at the end are smoother than a 3 point a landing. 😎
Most of us adults gave up the "fairies at the bottom if the garden around the age of 10.
Some never do !
Another concise, well-presented and well-researched video - thanks. I would avoid flying with any airline which didn't have thorough pilot training and aircraft maintenance. British Airways (BA), Quantas and KLM seem to be fairly good, but TBH I would never trust any others.
The Captain got them on the ground in Islamabad.
Ah yes "Inshallah". The ultimate answer for everything.
Lol if I hear the PF say "God willing we will see _____" during the approach briefing, I'm locking them in the lav and flying us to the alternate...
Thanks for your great report on this flight and tragedy.
Still waiting for your demonstration of ManScape products. 😂😂😂 😘
Thanks!
This vid has been up for two weeks and I didn't get a notification. RUclips is FIRED!
So... did that airline ever have a second flight?
Even i know what to do in wind shear alarm: TOGA, Pitch 15, tell the tower, stay alive.
TOGA?
@@K1OIK never heard of Toga before?
@@lazygit5415 toga, characteristic loose, draped outer garment of Roman citizens
@@K1OIK Burt, more properly, the acronym is "TO/GA" or "Takeoff/Go Around." TOGA is that high level of engine thrust used for takeoff from the runway or when a landing is aborted (in the case of this accident) and immediate climb is necessary. Hope this helps.
@@4325air
What these type threads are full of are a closed club of elites who try to show how hip and cool they are by using aircraft terms
that easily could be spelled out so the casual viewer could understand them.
Our flag career pia got better in past they have lots of problems but for now there leading career in our country they improve their pilots training
are they still banned from European airspace for being cockwombles? or not?
Hahaha nice joke 😂🤣
There is a LOT of room for improvement. Two years ago Pakistan had to suspend 262 pilots suspected of cheating on exams.
I was on the main highway just below the approach path of old Islamabad Airport minutes before this crash. It was raining so heavily, it was hard for me to drive my car. Wipers had no effect on the windscreen. I passed through that patch in 5 minutes or so and then it was clear.
I eventually entered my housing society a few minutes later which is at an elevated land. It was super cloudy and dark. But then I felt as if sun broke through the clouds in the sky on my right. I found it stra ge because it was evening and my car was moving towards west so the sun should have been straight ahead.
That's when I looked right and saw a huge fireball rising up from the ground at a far away distance. It was this ill fated plane.
I couldn't believe my eyes. I drove straight back home and switched on the TV. Nothing related to the incident was on it. At least not yet. So I went to my house's rooftop with my zoom camera. I couldn't make out anything. But surely after 30 minutes or so, news channels stared reporting rhe incident.
It was a sad evening!
0:37 "The plane was in tip-top shape." LOL. No 737-200 was in tip-top shape by 2012. Still, it was a perfectly functional aircraft that never should have crashed.
The condition of the aircraft had 0 to do with this accident.
2:01 i would absolutely hate hearing the pilot of my flight counting on god to do his damn job
There's only one rule that I have when trusting an airline, and that's to never fly with any airline from a third world country. I feel safest on Delta Air Lines, Qantas, and British Airways. Japan Airlines is also very safe.
Not always. Go and check the near collusion of a 747 and a 737 Chicago in 2006. Accidents can happen everywhere, even in your first world countries.
@@drossouw2218 True.
negligence at it's finest
do the
pk8303, the karachi engine scrape then try go around with no engines
What happened to his god?
10:19 I didn't understand. So they trained for semi automatic but got full automatic? How is that related to learned to drive automatic cat and got a stick? Isn't it the other way around?
clouds, wing bending, roll, and flaps looks all realistic af noice simulation 8:16
Part of the problem is the culture. Some cultures believe that they have very little control over their lives because their lives are completely dependent on the whims of God. So instead of actively taking control of their life they leave their fate in the hands of God.
Absolutely true
The saying goes that God will provide. In other words he gave you the tools and brains to fix the situation. How could anyone live like this, basically blaming God for everything.
A man gets caught in a flood and prays to God for help.
A boat comes by and asks if he needs help. He says, "No, God will help me."
Another boat comes by and he says, "I have prayed to God for help, so I will be okay."
A helicopter flies past and offers a rope. He says, "My faith in God is complete, help the others."
Then he drowns. In heaven he says, "God, I believed in you with all my heart. Why did you let me drown?"
God says, "How could you drown? I sent you two boats and a helicopter!"
@@panagea2007 I'm quite familiar with that story/joke but it never made sense to me. Christians are known for declaring anything and everything that helped them to be proof that god answers prayers. It's weird to have a character that's supposed to be a true believer act completely against type just to fit the punchline. The joke has the structure and feel of a typical dig at atheists but lacks the non-believer who gets schooled at the end. I find it weird how often it comes up, considering that it features a nonsensical character that had to be manufactured specifically to make the joke work. Because I can't stress enough how stereotypical Christian it would be to have that man pray for god's help and then declare the first boat to be _literally_ godsend.
@@DowncastParadox I believe that God created the universe, but I don't believe that he answers prayers. He watches us, but doesn't watch OVER us. He wants to see what we become on our own. If he interferes we won't evolve naturally. God has never spoken to anyone on earth. The bible was written by men who find the Grift of God to be quite lucrative. He created all the physical laws and expects us decipher them and learn how to use them.
This sounds like Pakistan alright
What’s worse press, having to divert due to weather or killing everyone on board trying to land in extreme weather? 🤔
Its amazing how often there are accidents when something is unusual.... Look at the Titanic or the Costa Concordia for two shipping examples of smilier kind of things. I would bet that likely there where company people onboard or at least they where in contact with such and there was pressure on them to get the play through... three days later chances are no one would have cared but for the first flight that's not going to be the case.
This was a very tragic incident. I remember aunt of my office colleague lost her life in this.
2:02 When the pilot says "No God Will Help Us" you are in deep trouble.
This was one where I couldn't help yelling "punch it! Throttle to the wall!", but easy to say when you're not there. Bad training.....
The last thing I'd want to hear from a pilot is 'god will help us'. I want to know that the pilot(s) have the skill to deal with the situation, not just leave it to chance.
Landing is a relative term. You can land in a field, a tree line, a neighborhood, or preferably...the destination airport.
I always wanted this landing challenge in the new MS Flight Simulator 2020. I tell my self with more preparation I could have saved or landed.
Sounds like the Captain should not have been in charge of so many peoples lives. Terrible CRM and bad choice to fly through a thunderstorm. Should have diverted, obviously.
have to covered the flight in which "Juniad Jamshed" died?
The ol' get-there-itis is an incredibly alluring killer.
Wow, well I guess when your relying on the big invisible guy in the sky to get you on the ground safely...this could happen. Who could've imagined that outcome🤷♂️
Oh boy I can already see where this is going...
Just discovered your channel, and if I could offer some constructive criticism, I'd recommend staying from subjective comments, and opinions. Saying things like "The captain was terrified." You have no idea what his state of mind was at that moment. I'd also recommend watching The Flight Channel" RUclips channel, as he/she keeps it very factual, with no additional commentary.
Was this 737-200 delivered from British airways to bhoja airlines ?