Bridgestone Potenza RE003 vs Michelin Pilot Sport 4 - Practical Tests

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

Комментарии • 103

  • @RUSQAAAA
    @RUSQAAAA 2 года назад +10

    Just entered the season with the new RE004s and I'm happy with them so far!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Nice! Will have to get a set for mine to see how they compare

  • @zeroyon4562
    @zeroyon4562 2 года назад +15

    RE003’s do pretty well for what’s an old, old tyre now. The buy three, get one free deal for them is always a winner too. The RE004 is out overseas, no idea why Bridgestone/Firestone haven’t bought it out here yet.
    I’m using Goodyear asymmetric at the moment and I really like them. Nicely balanced tyre.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Nice, yeah keen for the re004 and PS5 when it launches here

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +2

      Yeah the GYA5 seems to be the best replacement for RE003s currently

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 2 года назад +1

      The problem with Goodyear Asymmetric is that there is a big step in sidewall stiffness between 17" and 18". I had the 18" versions before and they were good, predictable with good feedback, but apparently the 17" versions of the Asymmetric are much softer and rather vague. It's a shame we can't get Eagle F1 Super Sport in the smaller sizes. I'm very happy with the Potenza S007A at the moment though (hopefully the replacement Potenza Sport is just as good, even though it is a little lighter construction), the S007A has the same excellent taut sidewalls and road feedback as the RE003 (or any Potenza, Bridgestone are good about not compromising on the essentials of a sports tyre), but with *much, much* more grip.
      None of the horrible vagueness from the 17" Pilot Sport 4 ST, those were awful IMO, a total "jelly tyre" as Jonathon Benson from TyreReviews calls soft sidewalls tyres (maybe the 18" version is not as bad, thankfully, but even so in Benson's tests he confirms even the European version of the Pilot Sport 4, which is different than our "ST" version from SE Asia, does not feel sporty compared to the competition despite the name). It's the combination of the PS4's very wide tread and very soft sidewalls, which means the tread is very poorly controlled on the rim under lateral loads and exhibits unsettling lateral oscillations (the Pilot Sport 4 is mighty under braking or traction thanks to that, though, for people who care more about that), notwithstanding the lack of road feedback means you can't tell what the tyres are doing, unlike the excellent feedback which normal, rigid sports tyres provide!
      RE004 could be the go-to when it arrives as it's still engineered by Bridgestone Japan (like the S007A and RE003), unlike the Potenza Sport which is now engineered by Bridgestone in Italy. It should have a more competitive price than the Potenza Sport (mind you, the Potenza Sport already has a pretty reasonable price compared to the Eagle F1 Super Sport or Pilot Sport 4S, *and* the Potenza is the only one that is available in smaller sizes).

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад

      @@TassieLorenzo I think Potenza sport was minimum 18s last I checked - otherwise I would have got them for my Integra instead of RE003s.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 2 года назад

      @@christopherjohnston6343 I've got the 225/45 R17 for the S007A, which is also available in the Potenza Sport (in Australia). :) The RE004 should be available down to 15" when it finally arrives though.

  • @justvibin6564
    @justvibin6564 2 года назад +2

    ive been waiting for a side by side comparison of these two tyres for ages!!! so thankfull to see this video!

  • @xenonsaccord4447
    @xenonsaccord4447 2 года назад +3

    Woo! I just bought the Pilots a month ago on my stock wheels and - oh my goodness! WORLDS difference from my economy (Michelin) Primacy’s! I love these tyres!!!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Oh yeah man they'll make a big difference

    • @xenonsaccord4447
      @xenonsaccord4447 2 года назад +1

      @@KiwiCarLife I couldn’t be happier! 😁 Thank you for the 5 upgrades idea and taking the time out of your day to respond to my numerous comments here.

  • @smackbang2681
    @smackbang2681 2 года назад +3

    absolutely love your car bro! Recently got my 07 cl9 accord and love it. Looking to upgrade and modify it but having a bit of trouble on where to find a lot of the things. Also not to sure what I should get to start my build as such. Your channel is such a help especially with all the reviews and everything. So happy to watch a video of yours at the end of a day.

    • @rcrhino2148
      @rcrhino2148 2 года назад

      Air intake. HDI

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +2

      Glad you're enjoying the videos! If you want maximum gains, try get an ecu reflash from @kflash_nz and get an intake and plm header

  • @ferdz43
    @ferdz43 2 года назад +2

    Those civic RS wheels actually looks surprisingly nice on the accord 🥶

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Haha yeah they look decent aye

  • @lordzeolite
    @lordzeolite 2 года назад +3

    Always wondered about this. Appreciate the video. got my 4x re003 for 800 ish. 4xPS4 were around 1100 at the time.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Yep sounds about the same as mine

    • @logan20014
      @logan20014 Год назад

      Where did you manage to get the re003 for $800?

    • @lordzeolite
      @lordzeolite Год назад +1

      @@logan20014 direct from bridge stone. They have deals all the time

    • @NikA-wr6px
      @NikA-wr6px Год назад

      @@logan20014 i just got 4 for $707 from costco. if i didnt have a weird size (195/55/16) i could of saved and extra $200 almost

  • @EthanLeitch
    @EthanLeitch 2 года назад +5

    I'm in Australia and have gone through 3 sets of Pilot Sport 4 tyres on my Golf. I like them but I've just changed to RE003's because even with regular balancing, rotations and alignment I wore through them very quickly.
    I find the RE003's a bit harder, louder, but a bit more direct in steering feel, interested to see if they last longer.
    On another note the Pilot Sport 5 just got released which seems to perform identically to the 4 in grip but Michelin are claiming better durability.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Yeah tbh any performance summer tyre is gonna wear pretty quickly coz it's a soft compound for better grip. I'll probably get 30,000km out of my re003's before needing a chance. They're starting to get low

    • @NikA-wr6px
      @NikA-wr6px Год назад

      Would love to know how they are holding up for you?

  • @christopherjohnston6343
    @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +2

    I like RE003s. Have had them on 4 different cars but they are seriously outclassed now.
    Hankook RS4 (Z232) is the performance buy at the moment in NZ. Its cheaper than RE003s - wears well and has a looot more grip. It does take a lot of work to get heat into them now that we are not in summer but even cold they offer similar performance to Re003s
    A lot sharper than mushy all rounders like PS4 too.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Yeah I'm sure but I'm happy with mine

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +2

      @@KiwiCarLife but you like a bit of luxury and balance. The Pilot Sport is, basically the accord of tyres. Does everything well. Doesn't sacrifice comfort like most sport tyres do.
      It's debatable how usable RS4s are on public roads. My Miata mates can but they are all pretty intense with his hard they push.

  • @keno88
    @keno88 2 года назад +2

    Big fan of the PS4s, have them on my Euro atm. Could not fault them. Did have RE003s on my WRX but switch them to the PS4s and felt substantially quieter and also lasted longer. About a $100 difference between both for all 4 so not too much difference. Both solids options but I’ve found tyres are something you don’t want to skimp on.

  • @aydan2914
    @aydan2914 2 года назад +4

    Great test. I switched from RE003s to PS4's on my STI and the difference was noticeable but not massive. The PS4's are completely silent on the limit with no tyre squeal unlike RE003's. The Michelins are worth paying extra for if you can afford it. But for their price, RE003s are excellent.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Agree, that's a good summary

    • @aydan2914
      @aydan2914 2 года назад +1

      @@KiwiCarLife Oh and the PS5 has just been released so that will be even better again.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      @@aydan2914 ooh that'll be exciting

  • @karmadelic1
    @karmadelic1 2 года назад +4

    I am a fan of PS4, have them on my car, you missed one very important comparison and that is braking distance, PS4 really pull up well wet or dry and that is what gives me the ultimate confidence in these tyres. In the past I have had Potenza's on my other cars and I like them also, what is the actual price difference these days anyway? for me I feel the small amount extra to pay is well worth it.

  • @awges
    @awges Год назад +3

    I feel like I'm the only person not bothered by quietness since I'm blasting music every time I drive

  • @mitchellhutchinson3992
    @mitchellhutchinson3992 2 года назад +3

    Hey there great video once again. I remember a while back you said you were gonna do a skunk 2 intake manifold you still gonna do that or nah?

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +2

      Don't think so man, happy with it how it is

  • @MLAGG10N3
    @MLAGG10N3 Год назад +1

    kiwi accent never cease to make me laugh.. bitter or better? :D

  • @FeelFree3
    @FeelFree3 Год назад

    When they sell Pilot sport 5 tyres cheaper than pilot sport 4 on black friday sales, I bought pilot sport 5 for sure!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Год назад

      Nice!. I'm sure they're fantastic

  • @bigbas6887
    @bigbas6887 2 года назад

    Thanks my friend, from Portugal

  • @chuckinola
    @chuckinola 2 года назад

    Had both re003 n ps4. Re003 so much nicer to drive n it absorbs road harshness better than the ps4. Change to the ps5 last month, now on re004. Never look back.. Re004 hands down better in every ways. The best part is how smoother it feels compared to the ps5. Thumbs up bridgestone.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

  • @druscanam
    @druscanam Год назад +1

    What might be a good tyre for you to test is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport
    Not the F1 asymmetric 5 or 6 or super Sport but the "F1 Sport"
    Reason being it seems to only be available in the Australian/New Zealand and south East Asia pacific market.
    So there doesn't seem to be any review videos for it other then Australian and Malaysian promo videos.
    It's marketed as a UHP tyres and lots of customers reviews are quite good but so far I haven't seen 1 proper review or test for this tyre.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Год назад

      Yeah true could be good

    • @druscanam
      @druscanam Год назад

      @@KiwiCarLife I think so. from my understanding the dry grip and responce is not quite as good as the PS4 or Re003 but the wet grip and tread life is up there with the PS4 and the price is even cheaper then the RE003, seems to be deals everywhere on this tyre in Australia

    • @druscanam
      @druscanam Год назад

      @@KiwiCarLife
      Also the Continental Max Contact MC6 also seems like a good low cost UHP tyre that like F1 sport only seems to be available in Australia/NZ Oceania and south East Asian countries atm.
      I think testing these and the F1 sport would be best cause all the tyre tests seems to be american or European so can't find any good comparison tests

  • @vhssociety
    @vhssociety 2 года назад +1

    I run Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s and the cl9 rails corners

  • @zpe1200
    @zpe1200 2 года назад

    still got the jappa from factory on the crown gotta get new ones before the deep south winter.

  • @ps7539
    @ps7539 2 года назад +1

    i tested the older ps2 and ps3 and the goodyear eagles. ps and eagles perf very similar, though the ps wore down much sooner. also the older bridgestone i had factory fitted. that was CRAP. car wouldnt stay straight/true even after extra alignment. also later on one of the tyres developed a side bulch without hitting it anywhere etc. never bridgestones again

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Ahh yeah after an experience like that I'd understand

  • @ThomasFG
    @ThomasFG 2 года назад +1

    The RE003 isn't a direct competitor to the Pilot Sport 4
    The Goodyear Asymmetric 5, Continental PremiumContact6 are more direct rivals to the Pilot Sport 4

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Yes thank you for this information

    • @ThomasFG
      @ThomasFG 2 года назад

      @@KiwiCarLife No problem.... Falken Azenis FK510 are another worthy tyre which are also brilliant for the money

  • @neon_man9099
    @neon_man9099 2 года назад +1

    Oh yes civic RS on jack stands is present

  • @Slipperystick73
    @Slipperystick73 8 месяцев назад

    Price wise the RE003… are a great tyre

  • @olihaub
    @olihaub 2 года назад

    when is the swaybar video coming😂? personally I have had both these tyres. re003 are ok but the ps4s are so much better in every respect and in all conditions. Also they last alot longer.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Dunno, unlikely I'm gonna do sway bars I think

  • @garythegreat2311
    @garythegreat2311 10 месяцев назад

    I drive 100kms everyday and need a good mileage tyre that doesnt puts a hole in my pocket, can you suggest me what tyres i should go for, potenza sport or re003 or turanza senrenity plus very confused as i dont wanna compromise safety or fuel efficiency 😊

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  10 месяцев назад

      Turanza will last the longest

    • @garythegreat2311
      @garythegreat2311 10 месяцев назад

      @@KiwiCarLife thanks but I read reviews for turanza, except wear life it isn't good

  • @Tantium
    @Tantium 2 года назад

    Wonder if you've heard of Dunlop Sp Sport Fm800s, I did a bit of reading before buying they seem to be pretty dang good value for money, I paid 600$ for 4 fitted

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Yeah the SP Sports we run on our Jazzes, good tyre, the problem is they really don't last. Very soft compound

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад

      I've run them as well. They work well for an economy tyre. Feel sporty and more responsive than eco tyres but offer less grip than RE003s. They don't roll over on their sidewalls as much as other eco tyres. Very confidence inspiring and predictable.

  • @atom608
    @atom608 2 года назад

    What about the price difference between these two?

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Pretty similar in general, most sites I saw the PS4 was slightly more

  • @huzaifakhan612
    @huzaifakhan612 2 года назад

    Bro k24A2 block with k20a euro r head how much torque and power will this engine give ??

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      I dunno? More than mine obviously. Do it yourself and find out

    • @huzaifakhan612
      @huzaifakhan612 2 года назад

      @@KiwiCarLife will it give more than cl7 euro r ???

  • @sassall4284
    @sassall4284 2 года назад

    What’s the price difference in nz?

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Not totally sure, I believe the re003's are around $350, and the ps4's are around $450

  • @KavinFan0803
    @KavinFan0803 2 года назад

    Wait where are you buying RE003s that are cheaper than pilot sport 4s? Everywhere I've been looking the PS4 are cheaper

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +1

      Then get the PS4 then haha

    • @Patspwnage
      @Patspwnage 2 года назад +2

      RE003 is cheaper than PS4 in Aus

  • @TheBeanMan
    @TheBeanMan 11 месяцев назад

    I'm pretty chuffed to get my re003 for $138 each.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah they’re a good tyre

  • @Patspwnage
    @Patspwnage 2 года назад +1

    3:20 RIP NZ petrol prices above $3
    RE004 still isn't out in Aus.
    I'm running RE003 in my auto Euro. Wet grip around tricky round-a-bouts is bad.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +2

      See I think if you're thrashing any car in the wet around a roundabout then you're silly... There's no such thing as a "good wet grip tyre" because they all are worse in the wet than in the dry

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +1

      Yeah RE003s are twitchy in the wet. Respectfully disagree about no such thing as good wet grip tyre. PS4/PS5 + other 200tw tyres offer a, lot more than RE003s in the wet

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      @@christopherjohnston6343 I've driven re003's and ps4's back to back in the wet and I can hardly tell the difference. They both give out very progressively

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад

      @@KiwiCarLife absolute grip limits are meant to be a bit higher for ps4s. Especially braking. I like the communicativeness of RE003s but in general my MX5 friends are not a fan of them.
      Currently on Falken Azenis and they grip way better in the wet but I'm aware that grip will Probably go a bit faster once they go

  • @ps7539
    @ps7539 2 года назад

    should have done a braking test.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      Frankly I doubt there would be much difference, but yeah would have been good to do

  • @automotivetv9861
    @automotivetv9861 2 года назад

    More vbox 0-100 races with other cars!

  • @maxxibro
    @maxxibro 2 года назад

    RE003 is mehh average. Squeals a lot around hard cornering and not as confident inspired around high speed. Final verdict is you'll get what you paid for. If you didn't squealing the RE003 then you're not cornering hard enough 😆

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад

      I found both the PS4 and re003 squealed about the same, i.e. not much

  • @rcrhino2148
    @rcrhino2148 2 года назад

    Hurry up and supercharge your car before I do LOL

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 года назад +2

      Don't think it's gonna happen sorry