🏆 Eurovision 2024: Grand Final Review & Analysis

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  • @4nnn4
    @4nnn4 4 месяца назад +140

    Croatia is more than proud of Baby Lasagna. Look at the homecoming they organized for him. And he sold out 3 gigs in minutes. So happy for him.

    • @motherofslavs8761
      @motherofslavs8761 4 месяца назад +24

      @ESCTom he's quite the national hero, you probably heard that he got a reward from our government that he turned down and asked for the money to be donated to two hospitals for pediatric cancer.

    • @MorkyMuffin
      @MorkyMuffin 4 месяца назад +6

      He truly is the people's winner

  • @iamaloserkid
    @iamaloserkid 4 месяца назад +158

    Finally someone who addresses that it's weird with the Joost Klein situation that they had to mention it was a FEMALE staff member. I found it weird since I first heard it, because I think when it comes to things like equality, it shouldn't matter what gender someone was, unless it's related to the crime, which most definitely does not seem the case here. People seem to gloss over it, but I think it was also strategically mentioned just to fuel some more rumors regarding Joost Klein. the EBU just wanted to gather all the reasons possible to DQ him, since he was just a pain in their bum

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +74

      yea i really cant see the relevance otherwise. it seems very tabloid gossip magazine to me.
      there definitely seemed to be a tone of "joost hit a woman!" when the story was first breaking, which should NOT have been allowed to happen

    • @AW-EV-and-FTM
      @AW-EV-and-FTM 4 месяца назад +3

      This is the problem with TERF feminism and the ALWAYS trust the women policy…

    • @aekelly
      @aekelly 4 месяца назад

      @@AW-EV-and-FTM omg I discovered Terf-ism recently and it's such an oxymoron! 😭

    • @catherinegaughan-smith8464
      @catherinegaughan-smith8464 4 месяца назад

      I have heard this mentioned on a few other reaction channels. The EBU think they can deflect from their shambolic behaviour by manipulating the narrative. So obviously misleading. f**k the EBU

    • @gerardkelsh1011
      @gerardkelsh1011 4 месяца назад +5

      Totally agree. It was trying to throw shade instead of being transparent. It doesn't even quote a rule. Animal farm comes to mind on these particular rulemakers.

  • @nrtj298
    @nrtj298 4 месяца назад +143

    I really appreciate your nuanced view on difficult topics

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +10

      🙏🏻

    • @Lucian86
      @Lucian86 4 месяца назад +2

      Echoing that

    • @KevinWWSP
      @KevinWWSP 4 месяца назад

      I wonder if Nemo was wearing magnetic sneakers 👟 due to his incredible balance on his sci-fi island.

    • @Felix-rv1mh
      @Felix-rv1mh 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@KevinWWSP Nemo said on the press conference that they haven't used magnets but liked the idea

    • @DezorianGuy
      @DezorianGuy 4 месяца назад +5

      Class act performance - that political juggling. Sticking with this channel from now on. Who's against war crimes is a good human to my eyes and someone I tend to trust (even with Eurovision songs :P). 👍

  • @catmareeonline
    @catmareeonline 4 месяца назад +264

    Joost's disqualification was the biggest plot twist of the year -- possibly the biggest of the past few years

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +116

      Biggest and worst

    • @tanktheplayer4275
      @tanktheplayer4275 4 месяца назад +8

      First time it ever happened too

    • @himmel735
      @himmel735 4 месяца назад +4

      My opinion is that he was eliminated, because in reality his song is not at all pro Europe but a disappointment for Europe.

    • @efthymiosn3381
      @efthymiosn3381 4 месяца назад +8

      Yeah but he might actually be at blame. He would not be disqualified for nothing.

    • @catmareeonline
      @catmareeonline 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@efthymiosn3381 yeah I know? I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty of whatever happened, I'm just saying the whole situation was definitely unexpected -- especially only a couple of hours out from the grand final

  • @lillecathrine
    @lillecathrine 4 месяца назад +63

    Joost lawyers comments today, confirms (to me at least, I speak for myself) he was DQ'ed over an incident that very much
    1. He should've been protected from
    2. Should have been resolved without police involvement, and a DQ could have been avoided, by either using the semi final footage or keeping the two parties from each other. A public apology which was suggested, might have also been a way for him to take accountability.
    Even though I was not there to see it happen, it feels like he pushed the camera away after asking multiple times to not be filmed in a heightened state of emotions (which also according to AVROTROS was agreed he would not be) and that the camera person was startled and dropped their phone. Anyway, something similar to this.
    I would have liked to see him achieve more of his dream, but maybe if the EBU reference group is all changed, he would consider coming back if he feels like it, maybe next year or in a couple of years.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +34

      completely agree with all this, and at this moment in time, that is also my understanding of what happened as well.
      I also hope that he comes back, but i also think it would require something to be different than this year

  • @BestesBart
    @BestesBart 4 месяца назад +53

    Tom appreciation comment: Thank you for your work over the whole season, always waited for your content 🙏

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you Ben 🙏🏻

  • @thesnesgeek
    @thesnesgeek 4 месяца назад +136

    Loreen rapping in finnish would be a moment.

  • @eevee2411
    @eevee2411 4 месяца назад +82

    Right off the bat - I LOVE the emphasis on '*26* countries that qualified' lolll. As a Dutch person I'm still so sad and hope Joost is okay.
    I hope the EBU will do more to create a safe space for the artists who ultimately make the show. Stien (2022 contestant for NL) came out with a documentary, I saw some promo in which she describes how extremely overwhelming the eurovision experience was for her, especially when it came to the amount of content she was expected to participate in. Coincidentally (or not, because I think this counts for every contestant), she mentions how she really couldn't handle being filmed right after her performance. Ultimately no matter what exactly happened, if artists were allowed to set boundaries and be respected as people not products, this wouldnt have happened.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +28

      yea i commented on that excerpt from her interview on Twitter. its complete BS to me that they talk about protecting the artists from rehearsal footage and then have people harassing them as they come off the stage, and want to do X factor style eliminations

    • @eevee2411
      @eevee2411 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ESCTom It sounds like it's only about protecting the artists until not doing so benefits them more... I understand how much engagement short form content brings them, especially if they make different videos for each platform, but it's getting insane how much they expect from artists.
      Some Dutch media are calling Joost demanding or a diva for wanting an 'exception' to being filmed. If that is what was happening backstage all along, I'd be very surprised if he ever wants to join another big production again. So much for mental health awareness.

    • @vladd896
      @vladd896 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ESCTom Yes and I personally appreciated that you clarified extencively your position on Israel. While I might slightly disagree to some of it, you tried to make it both bold and respectful (much better than some other ESC fans I'd say), and especially thanks for mentioning soft power issue connected with Russia since 2014, although I believe even back in 2009 the ESC in Moscow was already used to drive attention away from their wrongdoings in Georgia, and they were building that momentum already prior 2014 (just hear to the lyrics of Russian entry in 2013, what a hypocrisy)

    • @drazenbicanic3590
      @drazenbicanic3590 4 месяца назад

      You mean the 20 countries that qualified

    • @eevee2411
      @eevee2411 4 месяца назад +2

      @@drazenbicanic3590 I see what you mean. However the big 5 and sweden still 'qualified' for the final by meeting the qualifications for entering the contest if that makes sense

  • @jealous6434
    @jealous6434 4 месяца назад +106

    RTL did a poll on if the Dutchies want to come to Eurovision next year, most voted no and others only wanted it if Joost wants to represent us again. It’s honestly beautiful how more Dutch ppl started watching Eurovision after Anouk and now the EBU has managed to make Dutch ppl so angry that they don’t even want to go next year. EBU really shot themselves in the foot 😭

    • @athanasioskyriazopoulos444
      @athanasioskyriazopoulos444 4 месяца назад +2

      The Netherlands kept the 2019 trophy for 2 years because of Covid, which had never happened before. Apparently this didn't bring them luck so far, so maybe they have to wait 7 years for the "jinx" effect to fade 😂

  • @wjddml
    @wjddml 4 месяца назад +31

    i love zorra. spain wasn't there to compete, they were there to have fun. thank you spain for sharing such a fun and lovely entry. i enjoyed it a lot.

    • @avtomad722
      @avtomad722 4 месяца назад +2

      Absolutely agree

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад

      Same as Finland! I always look forward to the more "fun" songs at ESC

    • @Snowshowslow
      @Snowshowslow 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@vohol6158 Oh those felt like very very different entries to me. Spain was fun but it had a message. Finland just seemed like "haha, people without pants..." to me. But then, I heard from more people that they thought it was funny. I just don't get why.

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад

      @@Snowshowslow yeah I didn't mean "funny", just... fun? Like the song and performance weren't very much jury material but instead just good vibes. But definitely not humpristic in the same way that Finland's was. However that one definitely has a real message embedded in the song, too. It's about rethinking the rules you thought you had to follow, and letting go of those that actually were not real and were just holding you back.

  • @_o..o_1871
    @_o..o_1871 4 месяца назад +40

    If the EBU doesn’t make a few important changes, I don’t want Romania back. This year was really good in terms of live performances, but all the scandals made everything look very bad.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +19

      yea i cant see countries who werent there this year being excited to come back

    • @ar50000
      @ar50000 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ESCTomYes, who is going to pay all that cash for a terrible ambiance?

    • @Anonymouswatcherandcommenter
      @Anonymouswatcherandcommenter 4 месяца назад +1

      Romania being so averse to a eurovision scandal...

    • @drakept7742
      @drakept7742 4 месяца назад +5

      I Think my country Portugal, should stop going, util the EBU do major changes.
      Iolanda was censord, because she had the palestine flag in her nails.

    • @AW-EV-and-FTM
      @AW-EV-and-FTM 4 месяца назад +1

      @@drakept7742 and it wasn’t even a Palestinian flag! It was just the colors

  • @escgabe
    @escgabe 4 месяца назад +119

    Tom this is perfectly timed for me to watch while i get lunch. Thank you for your service

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +48

      it's the warm up act for your bombshell video later 😂💥

    • @aekelly
      @aekelly 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ESCTom oh my! Thanks for that teaser, Tom! LOL! Wonderful round up, wonderful video as always. Thank you for adding so much to another Eurovision season!

    • @Róisín_of_the_Hawkeye
      @Róisín_of_the_Hawkeye 4 месяца назад +3

      Ooohhh! I can't wait for your video now Gabe ❤

    • @escgabe
      @escgabe 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ESCTom You are the main act!! I'm simply the basement aftershow party

    • @aekelly
      @aekelly 4 месяца назад +1

      @@escgabe gotta be honest, your video was brilliant but now I'm more pissed than I already was. 🙄

  • @adamtideman4953
    @adamtideman4953 4 месяца назад +53

    I think the low quality of the interval acts this year is due to bigger names boycotting the event over Israels participation. Eurovision as a brand has really taken a hit this year.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +17

      yep i still think that Zara or someone else pulled out quite last minute

    • @ElfenLied987
      @ElfenLied987 4 месяца назад +2

      That's a great point

    • @gerardkhachaturyan4814
      @gerardkhachaturyan4814 4 месяца назад

      Even if names like Taylor Swift, Jungkook, or Blackpink decide to boycott any Eurovision contest, Eurovision will still go on, regardless of how bad Eurovision took major setbacks.

    • @neconeconeco
      @neconeconeco 4 месяца назад +3

      @@gerardkhachaturyan4814 i think the point is that the interval acts seemed lower quality than expected, given that sweden looooooove ESC and have the budget to attract bigger artists - so the chances are that some names dropped out and they had to scramble a bit

    • @gothiclight8048
      @gothiclight8048 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ESCTomI thought it was odd having 3 grand final interval acts instead of the usual 4. It made me wonder if there was something missing or not

  • @jfarrow3856
    @jfarrow3856 4 месяца назад +103

    Thank you for your take on the Israeli song. This is the most nuanced, mature, respectful perspective I have heard. It is refreshing to see level-headed opinion and this will be the first time I respect someone’s reasoning for not covering Israeli participation. I may personally disagree, but this is the sort of maturity we need if we’re going to stay united as Eurofans. Thank you as ever for your amazing coverage, Tom - you’re a staple of why I enjoy Eurovision so much every year.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +11

      🙏🏻

    • @JJSFC
      @JJSFC 4 месяца назад +10

      +1 on this. Tom, you are consistently excellent in your coverage. Thanks for showing the kind of maturity that was lacking during the contest, by both the Israeli delegation but also certain acts that seemed to want to stir up backstage negativity rather than remaining professional.

    • @gerardkhachaturyan4814
      @gerardkhachaturyan4814 4 месяца назад +5

      Weirdly enough, he was involved in a campaign to boycott Israel as well.

  • @tonyttt31
    @tonyttt31 4 месяца назад +48

    Portugal, Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania - there's going to be winners among this lot over the next few years.

    • @drakept7742
      @drakept7742 4 месяца назад +3

      If they bring a english pop song they have a shot, if they bring a song in there own language, about there own culture they have zero chances.
      Even the jury gives an advantage to english, italian and French songs.
      And if the odds say you are not top 5 your country has no chances of winning.

    • @tonyttt31
      @tonyttt31 4 месяца назад

      @@drakept7742 two of thess countries have already won Eurovision with songs in their own languages. So I disagree with your point.
      You're correct about the bookies but that has no relevance to this conversation.

    • @drakept7742
      @drakept7742 4 месяца назад +2

      @@tonyttt31 I m portuguese i can tell you that the reason that we won was because the singer had heart problems, and Portugal won Euro Cup the year before. Not because the song is beautiful.

    • @tonyttt31
      @tonyttt31 4 месяца назад

      He had a considerable lead though. And was the public aware of that when they were voting? I don't understand how the football victory is relevant.

    • @drakept7742
      @drakept7742 4 месяца назад

      @@tonyttt31 it was well know that he had heart problems, there was a possibilaty that he would not sing because of his health.
      And Portugal became more relevant after we won the Cup

  • @euroesc5013
    @euroesc5013 4 месяца назад +70

    Switzerland wasn’t my favourite, I was a Croatia girly through and through so I can’t lie, I was a bit disappointed with the results. However, I can’t really be mad, Nemo absolutely deserved the jury score they got and Baby Lasagna can’t complain about his either, the jury was absolutely fair in that regard (unlike other years *wink wink*). The Code is a very decent winner in a very strong year and i’m very happy for Nemo too, they are the sweetest person

    • @lucaluca9704
      @lucaluca9704 4 месяца назад +7

      But the second place is also wonderful ❤

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +3

      Years like this make me wish we had separate jury and televote winners. It would be a huge change but wouldn't it be worth trying it out at least once to see how it goes? I was a fan of both of the entries but think that entries so popular with the public, like Croatia and Finland last year) should be recognized in a more formal way no matter what the juries say

    • @euroesc5013
      @euroesc5013 4 месяца назад +2

      @@lucaluca9704 Absolutely ❤️ To be fair, they were all amazing this year, there was no song i genuinely disliked, not even the ones that stayed in the semifinals. Some were better than others but they were all good and they should all be very proud

    • @euroesc5013
      @euroesc5013 4 месяца назад +1

      @@vohol6158 I like that but wouldn’t the title of jury winner and televote winner be less impactful than THE winner of Eurovision? I see your point and i agree but i still have mixed feelings on every form of choosing a winner

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +1

      @@euroesc5013 I do agree. I don't know if it would work either... Just an idea. It would be a smaller and more realistic step to lessen the juries power somewhat.

  • @YU-zg7zg
    @YU-zg7zg 4 месяца назад +32

    the photographer being female has absolutely nothing to do with anything, they phrase it like that to make Joost appear more threatening or something

  • @ButIamAStick
    @ButIamAStick 4 месяца назад +15

    Even though i find 'Liar' pretty boring, i have so much respect for Silias Kapsis, not only because of her age and been so high in the final, but because she showed she has the "it" factor to be a star and to continue to grow to become even better

  • @thel8624
    @thel8624 4 месяца назад +71

    Congrats to Bambie, Ireland, you and all Irish fans 🇮🇪
    Even though Doomsday Blue was never one of my biggest favourites, I supported you the whole season.
    If RTÉ continues making progress, you might take the title for most wins back soon
    (hopefully with a song in Irish)

    • @carolinebyrne9392
      @carolinebyrne9392 4 месяца назад

      IRELAND REALY HAS LOST THE PLOT THERE RAPPELEDY BECOMEING THE UNITED RUPUBLIC OF WOKE BULLSHIT

  • @antoinemadelon1274
    @antoinemadelon1274 4 месяца назад +18

    As a Frenchman seeing us get over 200 points in the televote made me very happy because going into the final I really thought are televote ceiling was 100 points, maybe 150 if we were lucky, so to see us get over 200 was really a pleasant surprise.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +7

      yea i was happily surprised to see that as well. i hope that this helps grow Eurovision's reputation in France

    • @Olivier-GM
      @Olivier-GM 4 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@ESCTomI'm not sure about this. Slimane's fans came (and that may have helped to have him at the end of the show) but they did not like the show (I read/heard very rude comments in the french media) and they probably won't come back next year.
      Anyway, 7.5 millions of French watched the final, which is a record for France Télévisions.

  • @MeowbackMB
    @MeowbackMB 4 месяца назад +5

    Baby Lasagna

  • @hydrangea2969
    @hydrangea2969 4 месяца назад +14

    I'm so happy for Ireland, Bambie's performance was one of the best! I'm just in awe of the staging and the stage presence of those two. I'm also super pleased about Nemo's victory, incredible staging and vocals (and as a queer person... everything about The Code is just super cathartic, it makes me cry)
    As a Finn, I'm not shocked about 19th place, but hey we qualified again! I think they performed it well and it still made me laugh in the grand final, so all's well. Most of the Eurovision talk here is focused on EBU's actions and Israel's participation, which makes me wonder about the next UMK and if artists still find the possible ESC representation gig appealing.

  • @treverthetree
    @treverthetree 4 месяца назад +9

    Funny you mention the Martin interval act in the final. SBS in Australia refused to even show it and ran advertisements instead. I was absolutely gobsmacked after the final to learn that they would have broadcast that, and very happy I didn't have to watch it 😭 Also, I absolutely cannot go through a season like this again. The head of the Norewigan delegation recently got a statement published on Wiwibloggs where they said that the EBU needs to stop blaming the delegations and artists, and I can't agree more. I won't come back next year unless something big happens unfortunately.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +3

      it would be truly wild if nothing changes

    • @treverthetree
      @treverthetree 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ESCTom I would never recover. Looking at Wiwibloggs is my morning ritual now, predicting which country will reveal their (very reasonable) complaint next 😭

  • @Smulenify
    @Smulenify 4 месяца назад +4

    I really liked the Norwegian song, but I can understand why people might not like it. I think one of the problems was that there were a lot of good songs this year + some countries always vote for each other which pumps them up a bit. Think that's why Germany got last place in 2023 as well.

  • @franzcohenfan3619
    @franzcohenfan3619 4 месяца назад +7

    Did you see the signed performance of Rim Tim on the bbc - the woman deserves recognition - she is amazing

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад

      Haha no I didn’t. I’ll keep an eye out for it

    • @franzcohenfan3619
      @franzcohenfan3619 4 месяца назад

      @@ESCTom its the semi final on I player or catch up bbc

  • @ESCKrish
    @ESCKrish 4 месяца назад +7

    The production this year definitely fell below my expectations. Interval acts (including Loreen) felt underwhelming and overall a bit too self-referential. And I love past Eurovision acts coming back usually! ABBA references without ABBA and the Martin tribute both felt in poor taste.

  • @RuddeyBoy90
    @RuddeyBoy90 4 месяца назад +9

    The thing that makes me angry the most as a dutch person, is that the EBU is treating us now like we never existed. So disrespectful!
    Unless there are big changes made at the top, I don't want us to come back to be honest.
    But I also don't want us to be the country that spoils Switzerland's party now they won after so many years. I am very curious what will happen.
    And I am soooo happy for Ireland! I voted for Bambie! :)

  • @CallistoTheWarriorQueen
    @CallistoTheWarriorQueen 4 месяца назад +9

    So happy our Australian jury gave Ireland 12 points

    • @erinnadia0409
      @erinnadia0409 4 месяца назад +1

      So iconic! Danny giving the 12 to Ireland!

    • @erinnadia0409
      @erinnadia0409 4 месяца назад +2

      The Australian jury always impress me, this year Bambie, last year Gustaph, 2022 Chanel
      They have taste and always pick something different to the Nemo and Loreen's 😂😅

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +3

      Thank you Oz ❤️

    • @Wailmur
      @Wailmur 4 месяца назад

      CRRROOWN WITCH IRELAND

  • @DarkFlareGC
    @DarkFlareGC 4 месяца назад +16

    I noticed in your baseless predictions you said Celine might show up. I really hope so, I know she's going through a lot of health issues with "stiff person syndrome" and it has been quite the battle with intensive training. Hopefully the Eurovision community can send her some love because she has said fan support is helping motivate her. She might not be able to sing next year but hopefully she can at least attend and feel the love the community has for her ❤I smiled when Nemo's brain stopped working for a second when a reporter said their name after Celine in a list of winners for Switzerland😂The way they gushed about it was adorable.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +13

      yea performing seems out of the question, but it would be great if she could particpate in some way, even if its just a video or something

    • @DarkFlareGC
      @DarkFlareGC 4 месяца назад +6

      @@ESCTom Ya that's what I'm hoping for. 🙂 I'm not getting expectations too high, would love even just having a cut to her to get some applause and love.
      ....and please Switzerland, no CGI Celine. 😵‍💫This Canadian can't handle that

  • @garryd7748
    @garryd7748 4 месяца назад +49

    I was so happy that my country’s jury (Australia) gave Ireland its 12 votes. They were absolutely fantastic the whole way through the competition, and the moment they ran excitedly up to Nemo immediately after Nemo’s win was announced….. that was my favourite moment of the final. The completely genuine smile of pride and joy melted me 😊

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +12

      thank you Australia 🇦🇺

    • @flappetyflippers
      @flappetyflippers 4 месяца назад +5

      In the same way I'm equally happy with my country's (the UK) jury vote this year. Portugal deserved that 12!

    • @queenmagentafox
      @queenmagentafox 4 месяца назад +3

      As an Irish/Australian (who currently lives in Ireland but grew up in Aus) I had never felt so proud of my homeland

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +2

      It was precisely the right person giving the 12 points to Ireland as well! The "Crown the witch" -growl from Danny made me so happy

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +1

      Also, I'm very impressed that you got at least one 12 from juries and a decent amount of jury votes on the whole. I thought the act as a whole was very impressive, with fab vocals and performance from Bambi (I don't think people get just how difficult it was), but I expected it to be too controversial

  • @tanktheplayer4275
    @tanktheplayer4275 4 месяца назад +20

    Finally! I have been waiting for this

  • @Stonebrook83
    @Stonebrook83 4 месяца назад +5

    I'm Dutch so this year was dissapointing and sad for me to put it mildly so I'll focus on something positive instead: Ireland coming 6th.🎉 So happy for Bambie Thug and the Irish fans. I have watched the ESC since 1990 (i'm quite old) and I've never seen a staging concept that had me glued to the screen like that. It was amazing. I have seen many good stagings over the past decades but seeing the massive glow up from the Late late show to what they created for the stage in Malmö totally caught me off guard. I absolutely loved every little detail of it. So grateful Bambie and their team got to really share their creative vision. I'm really proud and I'm not even Irish ❤ Here's to hoping this was your Anouk moment!

  • @barghast
    @barghast 4 месяца назад +13

    I'm desperate for us to send something other than radio friendly pop from the UK. I just wish we'd send something interesting, edgy, different. We have the advantage of auto-qualifying, so use that as an opportunity to take a risk!

    • @54M8F
      @54M8F 4 месяца назад +4

      The BBC have a huge BBC Introducing network for new artists that starts at a local level and goes up to National Stations. I don't know why they don't link into that.

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +1

      The BBC has just signed a new K-Pop-act to represent the UK next year. It consists of 6 Welsh Corgis, each with it's own, strong, personality (1 is non-binair!). They are now being trained and groomed for their ESC-participance. It's remarkable how they all honk, bark and growl in sync, and on pitch, after just days of training!
      Olly gave us his all, sadly it kind of backfired. But the BBC will take no more risks! Next year it will al be pretty straight forward Going to the Dogs!

    • @CallistoTheWarriorQueen
      @CallistoTheWarriorQueen 4 месяца назад

      I'd love to see them send some punk rock 💖

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +1

      @@CallistoTheWarriorQueen The Welsh Corgis that are now at bootcamp, all seem to have a preference for the likes of Sir Tom Jones and Dame Shirley Bassey. Punk Rock scared them to much.

    • @gothiclight8048
      @gothiclight8048 4 месяца назад

      I agree

  • @tony0930
    @tony0930 4 месяца назад +6

    I'm so proud of Baby Lasagna ❤️❤️❤️
    But also devastated, he deserved the victory so much 😭😭😭😭

  • @LynneConnolly
    @LynneConnolly 4 месяца назад +2

    It was a mess this year. The journalists felt pushed out, they cut out the boos Israel got and replaced them with cheers, and Joost was treated badly. Apparently none of the contestants felt at home. The presentation was very meh. I did enjoy the winner, well deserved. I loved the UK song, but the staging was all wrong. It was about the dizzy feeling that falling in love brings, and they forgot that. Bambi Thug was great.

  • @alexandrenabais6053
    @alexandrenabais6053 4 месяца назад +5

    Last year, Ukraine was my 1st and Norway was my 3rd favourite, this year Norway was my 1st and Ukraine was my 3rd favourite 😆

  • @leendertjanw7540
    @leendertjanw7540 4 месяца назад +2

    Absolutely amazing winner: immediately after Nemo's performance in the semi, I knew Switzerland would be the winner. Fully deserved. The entire top 4 is amazing by the way: congratulations to Croatia, Ukraine and France for all giving us fabulous performances and getting great and fully deserved results.
    It's so sad though that this year with all the fantastic songs and performances leaves such a weird taste in the mouth. Of course because we here in the Netherlands were so hyped and then Joost's disqualification turned everything so sour. It was the weirdest experience watching the final; I knew Joost wouldn't have won, Nemo had it in the bag, but I was so cranky and disappointed.
    The EBU will really have to address its failure to provide a safe space for all the artists and everyone who worked so hard behind the scenes. Maybe Eurovision has become too big, and the pressure too high? And should we reconsider what organizing an apolitical event really means? Also in the fandom the atmosphere was pretty strained this year; I hope we'll be able to move on and truly strive to become, as you once put it so eloquently, that universe where we try not to be such d*cks to each other.
    Comments on the staging and production: it was... fine. The Swedes really know how to produce a great show, but it certainly wasn't their most inspired hosting. I must say I liked Petra a lot better especially in 2013, when she and Malmö put on a much more fresh and really fun show.

  • @Róisín_of_the_Hawkeye
    @Róisín_of_the_Hawkeye 4 месяца назад +6

    Thanks so much for your great content Tom ❤ It must have been so intense there. And to think it all could have been avoided if the right decisions were made by the EBU before the live shows even kicked off. I feel bad for Sweden as their production was fantastic and they put on a great show. Looking forward to your next analytical video. Brilliant coverage. Thanks again. ❤

  • @xway2
    @xway2 4 месяца назад +5

    Being Swedish, I want us to get another win soon to beat Ireland's record. But if Ireland want to actually put up a fight (unlike what they've been doing recently), I'm all for it. Bambie was my favourite this year, and I hope Ireland will continue sending great songs. Maybe it will inspire us to actually send something interesting as well!
    I also have to say something regarding Norway, who was my second favourite this year. It's so funny to me that people are always saying to send something "ethnic" and to showcase your national identity, but when you actually do they complain that it's too "weird" or "out there". The singing is an old Scandinavian style that was traditionally sung by women when herding the cows. It's meant to pierce through the ambience and echo through the mountains and forests (if you search "Kulning" on here you'll find some cool examples). So I get that it's a little grating, but I think that makes it a perfect fit to combine with metal (which of course is also very popular in Scandinavia). Being Scandinavian and having been involved a little bit with folk music, I guess I've just gotten used to it? Because I thought it sounded absolutely beautiful and combined with the more modern sounds created an amazing entry for Eurovision. Alright, that's my rant done. Go back to enjoying your day!

  • @thalassophile_artist
    @thalassophile_artist 4 месяца назад +6

    Everybody saying countries should send more songs with ethnic background and sung in their native language and then they get poor results and get overshadowed by generic pop songs. Spain last year and Norway this year are a perfect example. They were completely robbed. People should be more open minded and receptive to other countries culture.
    Also, annoucing participants so early, bookies predictions and overall all of us being so connected through social media is completely ruining eurovision. Each year there is more and more strategic voting with insane top 5 scores and other countries collecting scraps. Not to mention political voting. With all the negativity and drama this year plus things I just mentioned I'm completely losing interest in eurovision.

  • @kiekendiefje
    @kiekendiefje 4 месяца назад +14

    Joost has admitted he handled the situation wrong but he has not admitted to being violent or threatening to the cameraperson according to his Swedish lawyer. AVRO/TROS has said that Joost immediately expressed he was sorry and Joost and AVRO/TROS wanted to apologize to the camerawoman in person but she declined to meet with them. I don't know what is true and what isn't as only the persons involved will know and all which is said in the media is speculative. I do feel however that disqualifying Joost for an alleged threatening gesture made by him is disproportional and too harsh.

  • @eamonnduggan4195
    @eamonnduggan4195 4 месяца назад +16

    Bambi' semi and grand final performances approaching 12 million views . I would struggle to remember much about Eurovision in 2004, I guarantee everyone will remember Bambi in 2044. That 3 minutes of pure art wasnt a huge production or carry a huge cost, but wow, just wow.

  • @rickhunter3930
    @rickhunter3930 4 месяца назад +5

    Your commentary is always one of the most impressive. I'm appreciate your hard work and I hope more folks will support you on Patreon to be a full-time creator and eventually being part of the Irish delegation and ultimately head of the EBU!😂 Seriously, your work is fantastic. Keep it up. ❤

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      Haha thank you Rick ❤️

  • @yesssiricanboogie
    @yesssiricanboogie 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank You Tom for all the good, balanced and clever analyze of this years very caotic ESC!! And SO happy Ireland is back on track! Also support your take on the "Israeli situation". Love from Norway

  • @oehlbormturn
    @oehlbormturn 4 месяца назад +11

    Crown(ed by) the witch

  • @CatsLilaSalem
    @CatsLilaSalem 4 месяца назад +3

    Music wise, i really love this year. I think an reason why some good songs performed so badly is because there are so many good options to vote on this time

  • @aimafa
    @aimafa 4 месяца назад +8

    Thank your for analysis, i’ve been waiting for this😊 You‘re my favourite Eurovision RUclipsr ever! You put so much passion and work into your videos while keeping a very balanced and objective perspective! Thank you very much for your content during this Eurovision Season, especially in those tense times!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you Amy 🙏🏻

  • @ViggoLarssonOsterlund
    @ViggoLarssonOsterlund 4 месяца назад +11

    I know the head of security for eurovision 2024 and he said to me that what joost has done is not even a crime and that the disqualification of the netherlands is an embarrassing overreaction, he even said that worse things have happened backstage in relation to a "certain country" but they never got punished for that...

    • @heppolo
      @heppolo 4 месяца назад

      Conspiracy theorists can say this DQ only happened to ensure that the worst case scenario winner isn't happening.

    • @Rymdraket
      @Rymdraket 4 месяца назад +2

      @@heppolopretty sure that wasn’t the reason though, I just think that the ebu is behaving really strange

    • @gerardkhachaturyan4814
      @gerardkhachaturyan4814 4 месяца назад

      @@heppolo Bruh, If Joost performed in the final, Ukraine would have won the contest.

    • @yodenman
      @yodenman 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@gerardkNo they wouldn't. Switzerland were way ahead of Ukraine in the jury votes.hachaturyan4814

    • @jimmybondy9450
      @jimmybondy9450 4 месяца назад

      Wild guessing... ​@@gerardkhachaturyan4814

  • @AsanteLion
    @AsanteLion 4 месяца назад +6

    Tom, I'm a huge Eurovision fan (even watched all the national finals this year), and today is my birthday!! Going to enjoy this over coffee. Thanks for a great gift🥰

  • @vanessalisa77
    @vanessalisa77 4 месяца назад +25

    Great explanation on Israel. I completely agree. Let’s hope next year is better and less hostile and we (Australia) are back again!

    • @esc1074
      @esc1074 4 месяца назад +3

      As long EBU is putting blaim on delegations and artists nothing will change.

  • @idraote
    @idraote 4 месяца назад +3

    I was particularly disappointed by the results. Spain, Norway, Slovenia were all in my top 10, just to make it blatant.

  • @paulrivas_88
    @paulrivas_88 4 месяца назад +6

    Another video of Tom, another click I'm making. What a delight to see you and hear you talking about this thing you're passionate about 😍❤️

  • @bastbats1952
    @bastbats1952 4 месяца назад +5

    The UK probably got nul point from televote because the song is good but not super memorable (I don't think it ever charted) and while the staging was great, it also wasn't family friendly (actually I've seen many criticism on French TV talkshows and news etc. of how Eurovision this year was too sexual and UK is always cited). I feel like Olly went for a VMA type of performance as oppose to Eurovision performance. I've noticed this in the past too, that the public likes sexy but not sexual, for example Poland 2014 made the sexyness funny so it was ok for the general public.

    • @bastbats1952
      @bastbats1952 4 месяца назад +1

      Now that I think about it, Finland is also one of the country cited as too sexual, even though that was clearly humour... so maybe mainstream media are just stupid lol

    • @motherofslavs8761
      @motherofslavs8761 4 месяца назад +2

      UK was a great thing ruined by dry humping.

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +2

      @@motherofslavs8761 He did a great job dry h umping our eardrums, alright!

  • @jwa2088
    @jwa2088 4 месяца назад +3

    Some Australians acted a bit like the British this year saying we shouldn’t bother anymore which was disappointing to me. We’ve sent some really good entries and despite not making it to the grand final, ratings were really good. (context: Australian tv ratings methodology changed compared to last year so hard to compare apples with apples)

  • @Texaslawhorn
    @Texaslawhorn 4 месяца назад +6

    I'm so happy for my favorite of the year, Ukraine, getting Top 3, especially out of the death slot!
    I wasn't crazy about it before the contest, but the song I am now listening to on repeat is Lithuania.

    • @The-Almond-Cafe
      @The-Almond-Cafe 4 месяца назад +1

      Same! Lithuania is my winner of the - I’ll listen to this forever on Spotify after Eurovision - award - I was so devastated when it was taken off Spotify for a whole day 😅

  • @jimh8040
    @jimh8040 4 месяца назад +15

    In your detailed results I hope you mention that 24 of Luxembourg's points came from 1 country and there's quite a clear reason why that country voted for Tali. 😅

    • @gerardkhachaturyan4814
      @gerardkhachaturyan4814 4 месяца назад +2

      What did you expect? Tali could have been massively booed by those "humans" as well, knowing her roots as an Israeli.

    • @jimh8040
      @jimh8040 4 месяца назад +3

      @@gerardkhachaturyan4814 I expected the juries to not be biased. Suffice to say I was disappointed.

    • @clem1578
      @clem1578 4 месяца назад +3

      @@gerardkhachaturyan4814Tali wasn’t booed though, was she? Which she would have been, if the boos were in fact about antisemitism. People booed Eden because they didn’t think Israel should be in the contest, not because she’s Jewish or indeed Israeli, otherwise Tali would have been booed because she is both.

    • @Snowshowslow
      @Snowshowslow 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@gerardkhachaturyan4814I hope you stop questioning people's humanity. It's a necessary step in propaganda to get people to accept unspeakable things happening to those they don't consider as fully human. So please, always be really suspicious of this kind of framing. You can disagree without it.

    • @BenClucas1
      @BenClucas1 4 месяца назад

      I understand why they gave her 12 in the jury, most other artists or countries would’ve been ungrateful. Shame they voted politically, but it makes sense. And many juries also voted against Israel, so like 🤷‍♂️

  • @lillywhite0707
    @lillywhite0707 4 месяца назад +5

    It is interesting that the opinion of the jury was the same only when it came to Switzerland. For all the other songs, their opinion was different.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +13

      Nemo's show was pretty incredible IMO

    • @Rash23215
      @Rash23215 4 месяца назад +5

      I mean switzerland was the best vocsls with risky staging.... no wonder juries loved it

  • @sandstormxx
    @sandstormxx 4 месяца назад +3

    The UK needs to stop sending radio friendly songs with no wow element. We did it in 2021, we broke it with 2022 (Sam had a wow voice and there was the wow moment with the staging and guitar). Mae Muller was radio friendly with a weaker voice and flopped, Olly had better staging but I don't think it felt as intimate as Sam Ryder just singing on the stage, and flopped. It's a live show, not a radio pop contest. Kaarija was a weaker singer than some people last years but his song was so memorable it made up for it. We're sending live singers with nice voices but they don't have much power behind them, so their jury points are so-so, then the songs are so forgettable they're forgotten by the public immediately.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      yea i think the songs need more risk.
      Having said that though, i thought the staging this year was absolutely brilliany

  • @ajaxstrijder1535
    @ajaxstrijder1535 4 месяца назад +4

    I’m sad to say that the Netherlands will probably not participate next year. Some other countries won’t participate either. EBU made a mistake and it is a big one. Eurovision 2025 is in danger.

  • @dragonblossom-qw2pl
    @dragonblossom-qw2pl 4 месяца назад +20

    Croatia 🇭🇷 will never on future be near win and nobody can replace Marko or baby lasagna…..money is only important for Ebu

    • @heppolo
      @heppolo 4 месяца назад +2

      They have Dino Jelusic the JESC winner.
      And Baby Lasagna can be the one top 5 person to go on a revenge comeback next year, it's a great promotional strategy for his newcoming album and he will get Croatia another top 10 position even in the worst case scenario.

    • @komandantData
      @komandantData 4 месяца назад +3

      @@heppoloBaby Lasagna has said that he would not want to come back, which I think is a fair decision given the Dora treatment from the start. He’s done more than enough and he deserves to have a career after all this independent of Esc. I agree with the comment above, we will not see an entry like his in the future from Croatia, HRT will not change their ways.

    • @heppolo
      @heppolo 4 месяца назад

      @@komandantData which is a miss.
      For all the craziness, I actually think this year Dora had two other songs which could have finished left side (one was a completely insane song from the last year's act (Baby Lasagna can take notes about next year's participation), and the other one was "Dijamanti"). Damir Kedžo is an insanely great live vocalist, he can carry a power ballad to a good position, he has to find some decent songwriters.

  • @corto7820
    @corto7820 4 месяца назад +2

    If Osterdahl step down we need someone from Central, Easter or South Europe. Why do we have to serve West/Nord countries?! They already proved as corrupted. Switzerland is already HQ of EBU...now, decentralize it. Or is it Europe only Nord/West?!

  • @yodenman
    @yodenman 4 месяца назад +4

    Just an update. In the UK charts Nemo has hit number 18. Croatia is 37 and Netherlands 38. Olly is a disappointing 48. I think Bambie Thug is 60 something and Ukraine 100. Just incase you are interested.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +2

      yea unfortunately, it does kind of fit into "why should other Europeans like music that we dont"

    • @yodenman
      @yodenman 4 месяца назад +1

      I appreciate your valuable time Tom. Thanks.​@@ESCTom

  • @astridbroberg9746
    @astridbroberg9746 4 месяца назад +3

    As a German in the US for the first time i skipped watching this years show. I really loved Isaaks song and didn't want to get disappointed seeing it in last place. I am so so happy for his 12th place and very pleased with the whole outcome. Nemo was just perfect, the variations in they're voice, the song and the staging . Well done

  • @elinat2414
    @elinat2414 4 месяца назад +2

    For a girly bop to come top 3, it really needs to be elevated by lots of epic, professional dancing from the lead singer (not just good dancing, like Austria and Georgia this year, I'm talking professional level, where the lead is basically outdancing the back up dancers). Lots of sparkles/glitter also helps. And finally, the camera work needs to really emphasise the dancing with fun, creative cuts and angles, like in K-pop, for example.
    Because they tend to be inherently generic, girly bops have a bit of an uphill battle to stand out. Just some fun lighting and a beautiful singer just isn't enough to elevate the song the same way as, if the genre and song were more niche (eg. Armenia this year).

  • @archecave
    @archecave 4 месяца назад +3

    No Rules!

  • @greeneagle1919
    @greeneagle1919 4 месяца назад +7

    The way you addressed your coverage of Israel's entry this year was absolutely top class Tom. There really needs to be more tolerance within the community towards creators opinions next year. I dont feel optimistic about that happening, but here's hoping! Keep up the great work 👏

  • @wardje5195
    @wardje5195 4 месяца назад +7

    Great analysis, Tom. Top 3 looks justified to me. Can't wait for next year. Hoping my country Belgium will get a little more love. When someone is too critical of you like you can't do anything right, people jump on the bandwagon and unfortunately it got into Mustii's head. If we hire an excellent choreographer, I think we can come back stronger. Take care, looking forward to seeing your live reactions in Switzerland.

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +1

      Gustaph could actually sing, that made the big difference in appreciation + that his song was way more fun + he had way more stage-presence.

  • @Marina.Menezes
    @Marina.Menezes 4 месяца назад +2

    Not only was that Martin Osterdahl "tribute" tone-deaf, it was also gross. Like, no Lynda Woodruff, I don't want to think about Martin licking his lips, thank you very much. 🤢 Also, this year I made my mom watch with me all the NFs and the actual show and throughout the season, Zorra was her absolute favourite entry! She was so worried when she thought they didn't qualify in SF2...

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад

      hahaha yea i still get questions every year on whether i think the Big 5 will qualify.
      The Martin thing was cringe already, I dont know why he okayed it

  • @gocilydakov
    @gocilydakov 4 месяца назад +19

    The winner absolutely deserved. The performance,vocals-Wow!
    ❤️from🇷🇸

  • @tomboss9940
    @tomboss9940 4 месяца назад +5

    Olly Alexander was, together with the lady from Azerbaijan, equally unable to sing, and my clear favourite for last place.
    A voice that hurts, doesn't find the pitch, a song Pet Shop Boys wouldn't had committed at their worst day, and the pretentious staging didn’t help as well. It's called staging, not a music video production.
    The points from the juries were very generous, and out of pity. Sorry to Slovenia, Norway, Estonia, which had more quality.

    • @neconeconeco
      @neconeconeco 4 месяца назад

      azerbaijan?

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +1

      You don't get his Art! Olly is a certified Atonal Genius! He invented many tones that were not known to mankind before! Just wait for his new album: 'Atonal Karaoke 🎤'

  • @trao1938
    @trao1938 4 месяца назад +6

    I thought all your programming this year was top-notch! How you rolled up your sleeves and did all that tough number crunching, so to make even the most confusing details understandable to us all -- brilliant job! Plus it's obvious how much you love Eurovision. Thank you for getting us through this season. We LOOK FORWARD TO YOU every year!!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much 😊

  • @that_cat21
    @that_cat21 4 месяца назад +3

    doomsday blue might be my favourite staging/performance package ever, it was so beautifully put together and i hope we see more like it soon
    side note i knew that there would be heartbreak this year because everything was so strong but man. ulveham last really hurts. i will say that the mgp performance was better but wow, i really thought it would be at least mid table :(

  • @Kantlim
    @Kantlim 4 месяца назад +16

    EBU trying to wait and pretend nothing happened is disappointing af, ngl

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +8

      I don’t think they’ll get away with that. They need to address it or countries will withdraw

  • @kamila-xh1vu
    @kamila-xh1vu 4 месяца назад +9

    This is the first time ever my winner won, I'm so happy for Nemo 🇨🇭🥹 glad I voted for them! Seeing the split screen between them and Baby Lasagna was a great feeling after all the drama and I'd be so happy with either of them winning

  • @johnny11415
    @johnny11415 4 месяца назад +4

    Great analysis. Yeah I agree if Joost wasn't disqualified and the situation with Israel was different there might have been a different result but there is an Italian saying that goes 'if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike' so no point making assumptions on the 'ifs' 😂 I also thought Israel would have got a good jury vote and a bad televote but it was the other way around. As you say many times you can't vote someone down so probably the Israeli supporters really got behind the televote and who was against just voted other songs. I am happy for Germany and Latvia, there is always talk about the importance of great staging but in some cases I think you should just go simple and in their case it worked. I don't think Norway deserved last either but it was a bit 'out there'maybe not the best for first listeners. I also agree with you the interval acts were below average in the final, the ABBA avatar thing really disappointing. ..

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed
      For me the ABBAtars weren't only disappointing but also just weird as heck...

  • @ddraven3180
    @ddraven3180 4 месяца назад +5

    I have to disagree on Portugal being in the tier of countries that could win ESC in the upcoming years. The tele scores they have gotten have been awful. You tried to twist it into somewhat of a positive, but 13pts this year is just bad, and the results have essentially just gone down on the tele's end every year since 2021 when it comes to the GF. If Portugal can't muster anything that gets casuals to vote for them, they aren't ever gonna come close to winning.

    • @carlosifer
      @carlosifer 4 месяца назад +1

      Portugal won in 2017 or have u forgotten 😂

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +8

      a risky strategy isnt going to pay off every year. realistically only 6 countries in the entire final got decent televote points. I think that Portugal's unique perspective means that they are someone who could be in that top televote tier, whereas some other countries arent remotely close IMO

  • @Eurocyb
    @Eurocyb 4 месяца назад +2

    Bambie Thug was wonderful. It was probably the best performance of the night, the most impressive, creative, original!

  • @simonkarsten272
    @simonkarsten272 4 месяца назад +2

    Gutted for Norway and Slovenia (won clearly won the mini-battle with Belgium). Georgia came with an Azerbaijan kind of song, while Azerbaijan came with a Georgia kind of song for the second year in a row. I am quite happy that interchangeable bops didn't really perform well, however if the contest is flooded with special songs some will lose out like Norway and Slovenia whilst others stand out such as Ireland and Croatia and Switzerland.
    I had this idea that Joost's televote would mostly be based on support from the North and West, while Croatia's support would mostly come from South and East. Unfortunately we couldn't quite test it in the final.
    Overall I am glad to see that most people are happy with their own entry in the final and are at peace with the results (except the Dutch)

  • @MissusChanandlerBong
    @MissusChanandlerBong 2 месяца назад +2

    2:12 are you insane kaarija cannot sing Loreen's song 😂😂😂😂 and vice versa....

  • @lillecathrine
    @lillecathrine 4 месяца назад +10

    About Norway... I am happy that we did send a song in Norwegian. I do think that MGP viewers need to pay less attention to the online hype though. From the start, no one talked about this song outside of the very niche bubble who like Gåte/Norwegian folk. It was to me, an indicator this was not getting those high points. I am sad I was right about it, but in the end, I have to acknowledge that I have a lot of Gåte's music, and this one just did not speak to me. I don't see the last place as something terrible, I just hope it'll be the point of change for NRK.
    I'd like to see us try more to figure out why the juries just don't vote much for us since now 2019. I think our copy-paste may need a little bit of tweaking. More upgrades, and more creativity if we can't afford some of the costs of other elements. If we keep going on as we have, artists are going to shy away from MGP again. This being heightened by the year 2024 has been for Eurovision. We have so many great bands and artists like Gåte who do deserve to be on that stage with their music.

    • @heidiihlen8074
      @heidiihlen8074 4 месяца назад +1

      Unfortunately I think serious musicians in Norway already shy away from the contest. Esc seems to have low standing when it comes to participation. Stig Karlsen, the head of the Norwegian delegation said in an interview the other day that it is already difficult to recruit people to attend to the contest. To much circus and to little focus on musical quality. Actually I was surprised when I heard that Gåte would participate in Esc. Glad they did, a lot of new fans appeared and discovered this awsome music.😊

    • @CallistoTheWarriorQueen
      @CallistoTheWarriorQueen 4 месяца назад +3

      I loved the song so much and I didn't know of them at all before Eurovision. It was a stunning performance and I'm so sad it came last. It was in my top 10 🇭🇲

    • @The-Almond-Cafe
      @The-Almond-Cafe 4 месяца назад

      Personally I wasn’t surprised by their result, I found the flinging guitars comical and not matched to the serious vibe of the vocals and didn’t know how to receive it - it looked like they weren’t taking themselves seriously? And the song for me was underwhelming. Just my personal opinion as someone completely unfamiliar with the band 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @sirprintalot
    @sirprintalot 4 месяца назад +9

    thanks for all the coverage this year Tom!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you Sir

  • @angrybirdo
    @angrybirdo 4 месяца назад +9

    The Israeli delegation harassing the artists and journalists and the EBU not doing anything to protect the artists was the most disgraceful thing to ever happen in Eurovision history.

  • @kevanmcdougallmph
    @kevanmcdougallmph 4 месяца назад +4

    48:03 The last year that one of the Big 5 countries was not in the bottom 3 of a final was 2004!!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +3

      ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

    • @kevanmcdougallmph
      @kevanmcdougallmph 4 месяца назад

      @@ESCTom wild stat eh

  • @rheffic1971
    @rheffic1971 4 месяца назад +2

    "anti-booing technology"...... does the EBU still deny using this? We all know it exists, and it's bizarre that people just nod and move on.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +1

      they dont deny it, but they dont really talk about it either...

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад

      they dont deny it, but they dont really talk about it either...

  • @gtlanguages
    @gtlanguages 4 месяца назад +2

    So chuffed I found this channel. So measured and informative. Also, Tom, you're such a nice guy. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to ESC 2025 as long as they make clear changes as this year was too stressful 😢

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much 🙏🏻

  • @BestesBart
    @BestesBart 4 месяца назад +6

    As a German I can say that we are very happy with this result. But as you already mentioned, our broadcaster will probably change nothing in their system because we got one good result.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  4 месяца назад +4

      i just want them to change that scoring system, it's so flawed

  • @energus9
    @energus9 4 месяца назад +6

    Irish and ukrainian stagings were simply is out of this world. Bravo !

  • @TotalbadassX
    @TotalbadassX 4 месяца назад +3

    I think Ireland 🇮🇪 will do great in the following years. I mean Bambi and Ailsha were the top 2 in Eurosong this year. Many thought they would cancel each other out

  • @bastbats1952
    @bastbats1952 4 месяца назад +6

    I was looking forward to this video

  • @ioanniszachos927
    @ioanniszachos927 4 месяца назад +9

    I hate the chaos that Israel caused this year. So pissed

    • @IFeelBetterInMySweater
      @IFeelBetterInMySweater 4 месяца назад

      It wasn't Israel's participants. It was the protesters taking it out on the participants, trying to deny them the chance to shine like any of the other artists.
      Ok, so they are born, and they happen to be born in Israel where they have been able to live a more secure life than their ancestors. Now this year's participants were bullied, beeing booked upon and frozen out by fans, other artists and some political activists.
      Being frozen out reminds me by the way of my own days in high school but that s another story. I just understand how it must have felt for them. And creds to them for having pulled through such a professional show!

  • @patrickuotinen
    @patrickuotinen 4 месяца назад +5

    One thing that is often forgotten, when people speak about the Finnish ratio 75% televote and 25% juryvote is, that there are only seven (7) songs competing in the UMK, and they have already been picked by a jury. I think, that Finland could easily go to 100% televote, because the seven entries have already been OKayed by the initial jury among several songs, that we will never hear. I think that the juries exist in the National Final only to add some drama to the end of the show. But I think all the seven entries are already songs, that YLE accepts as the Finnish representative.

    • @adamtideman4953
      @adamtideman4953 4 месяца назад

      Then just go 100% televote, what is the point in having juries if they're not making an impact?

    • @patrickuotinen
      @patrickuotinen 4 месяца назад +1

      @@adamtideman4953 that's what I would like t o have. And you really didn't get the point. There is a jury, the pre-jury, that has a bigger impact than the public.
      There is a jury by YLE, that decides, which seven songs of the hundred or two hundred submissions get to compete in the UMK. If they think, that it is not suitable to represent Finland, it doesn't even reach the UMK, and the public will never see it. Those seven, who make it, are already songs, that YLE has deemed suitable to represent Finland.
      Now, at this point I don't think we need even more juries, I think that public should have the say among those seven songs, that the jury has already selected.
      Or, why bother to have a public vote at all, the YLE jury could select the song internally, if the public isn't trusted to select even among those seven songs, that made to the UMK?

  • @JJSFC
    @JJSFC 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m a 33 year old Brit, who’s watched every Eurovision since ‘97 with my family and now I watch it as a dad with my wife and son. I feel like staging like Olly Alexander’s really narrows down the appeal for the general audience (on top of the song being a bit average). Yes, there is a big crowd from the LGBT community that makes up the Eurovision audience, but come the ESC final on a Saturday night there are a lot of families that are watching and that will make up the main audience on the night. We do want interesting staging that pushes boundaries (see Ireland), but why not aim to make your act as broadly appealing as possible?
    Just my opinion. Would be interested to hear any (respectful) thoughts in response.

    • @vohol6158
      @vohol6158 4 месяца назад +1

      I do agree Olly's staging/choreo had a negative impact on the result, but I think it would be a pretty boring evening if everyone aimed to be "as broadly appealing as possible"

    • @JJSFC
      @JJSFC 4 месяца назад +1

      @@vohol6158you can still have interesting, boundary-pushing staging while having a broad appeal. See Switzerland, Croatia, Ireland and The Netherlands this year.

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 4 месяца назад +2

      Also his Live-Vocals narrowed his appeal down to the Tone-Deaf voters. Only 5% of the population is actually Tone-Deaf ...

  • @gothiclight8048
    @gothiclight8048 4 месяца назад +1

    Do you think they will keep semi finals in Dora for 2025? Also someone high up at HRT already left last year after Let 3 won Dora. After Let 3 were selected, she said they would definitely finish last yet after they qualified for the final, she said she loved their music! It is an example of hypocrisy that exists at the broadcaster certainly

  • @meropale
    @meropale 4 месяца назад +2

    I really want to understand the UK's 0 public votes. My guess is that gay is okay at Eurovision as long as it's funny, gay or campy gay, or cute gay, but not when it's dirty and gritty or sensual/sexual gay. Maybe it was the dry humping that sealed it? I loved the performance and thought it was creative and well executed overall. It was something you'd be more likely to see on Queer as Folk than on the Eurovision stage, but that's what made it stand out and I am very glad they took that risk. I really was expecting something, even five points would have made sense, but null points did leave me scratching my head, and sad.

  • @bastbats1952
    @bastbats1952 4 месяца назад +3

    "female member of the staff" makes it sound like Joost is accused of sexual harrassment or something, which isn't the case so it's weird they would specify the sex. I think it says a lot about how poorly they handled the PR when beloved men are being cancelled left right and center for bad behaviour, yet people still side with Joost on this issue. I can't defend him until we learn more but I find it very unfair for dutch delegation, broadcaster and fans. They could have inserted the semi-final performance (Iceland 2021 style) and then let the delegation receive his points in his place. Punish the person who commits the rule-breaking, not the whole team and country...

  • @The-Almond-Cafe
    @The-Almond-Cafe 4 месяца назад +2

    Ireland / Bambie Thug was an absolute standout performance not just in 2024 but in Eurovision history. Artistically, theatrically, technically (the candelabra moving up and down creating different optics from above), vocally, and the little details - when the camera focused on Bambie’s eyes through the candles - incredible and a well deserved result.

  • @MalenaCPH
    @MalenaCPH 4 месяца назад +2

    With Joost out all my votes went to Ukraine. It moved me so much.

  • @gothiclight8048
    @gothiclight8048 4 месяца назад +1

    Oddly when I saw Nemo’s first rehearsal I thought they were never going to win with that staging and that they’d made a huge mistake. How wrong I was!

  • @KatEtoile
    @KatEtoile 4 месяца назад +8

    Well said about Israel, thank you for speaking out about it, I hope things will be much different next year

  • @keithgaskin1775
    @keithgaskin1775 4 месяца назад +3

    Been looking forward to this post all week! Well done Tom as always your coverage is excellent and on point. Being in Malo to cover this year in particular must have felt like running multiple marathons back to back with all the drama and somewhat toxic atmosphere to navigate 🤔 Looking forward to more insights and work towards Switzerland 🇨🇭 🇮🇪☘️