There is something just a little comforting that kind of feels like solidarity to have new videos from all these creators on completely different topics in completely different genres start their newest videos with basically "So something not so chill happened guys" and then go on and just keep creating
First of all thank you so much for continuing to shout out Within Strange Aeons in the description, means the world to me ^_^ secondly, the idea of a young rhaegar targaryen sneaking down to finally see his wife's tomb, after seeing their son for the first time in his life... and not being able to be open about any of his emotions except for here in the dark alone... and he chooses to leave something as vital and world changing as the horn there, with her. i am picturing him talking to her grave and saying something to the affect of 'see now you know i'll be back to see you my love... you take care of the horn, and i'll take care of our boy' hell he could have left the horn AND his harp with her purely as an act of love, since he can't come back to lay flowers after all
It's wild to me that you say that "Manse Raider" is a name that you would change if you were a candidate in a Wildling election. That's like saying you would change the name Sea Scourge if you were at a Kingsmoot.
If Mance was still a sworn brother when Jon was a kid, he 100% knows Ben Stark and knows him well. Moreover, if Mance was one of the brothers who travelled, it opens the door for him to know a lot more people south of wall than you would think and to have been active in (or at least aware of) the conspiracy shenanigans before and during the rebellion. We know that Aemon was all up in that mess by correspondence at minimum. I feel like Charlie looking for Pepe Silva right now, but there is an entirely plausible Ocean's 11 plot here in the background just waiting to be found.
What’s with the Stark Ladies having a weakness for music that ends in turmoil? We got 1) Brandon Stark’s daughter getting seduced by Bael the Bard and then their kid (according to story/rumor) grows up to kill his own father during a wildling raid 2) Lyanna Stark running off with Rhaegar Targaryen after hearing him sing which is the direct cause of Robert’s Rebellion and 3) Sansa being so enamored with love stories in songs she’s heard (songs sung by Mance Rayder?) that her desire to be like one of the maidens in those songs is a big catalyst in the downfall of her family
Rob Banks is Max Fosh, who is also known for the “Welcome to Luton” prank at Heathrow airport, for gay marrying into the Royal Family, and much other English mischief
Also a good place to find a map of Winterfell! Honestly after stealing anything in particular, starting a fire is the best cover for whatever you stole. Slots in very nicely with Mance hiring the Cat’s Paw
Okay, but the chair thing is brilliant. Also, as someone who once worked at a college library, I gotta tell you that if it was a student librarian, there's a very significant chance they 1) wouldn't be paying attention, and 2) would find it super funny if they did notice.
What about this- Rhaegar was there to “get the measure of the Southron King” Jon Snow. The King being Jon Snow. And he was Raiding the Manse to steal Jon Snow and bring him north
I really appreciate this theory, because it gives a better explanation for Mance's too-on-the-nose name, other than just George forgetting to change the placeholder he left.
Perhaps he was dropping off a dragon's egg into the crypts of Winterfell. That's what starts John's Dragon dreams. He was just giving his son his birthright dragon.
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There are some interesting possibilities in here. Some that make sense if I'm correct and Benjen is hiding in the Crypts, and is the Hooded Man that Theon sees. First, old theory, Mance actually came all the way up from KL. He was technically there to deliver the package containing the myrish eye and note from Lysa. Your connection to Benjen is actually interesting and one I'd like to see explored more. First of all it's reasonable to assume Gared was sent with the pregnant direwolf, by Coldhands. It's interesting for a number of reasons that might not fit in thus comment. I'll summerize them by pointing put the fact Sam was sent by Coldhands to retrieve Bran and the possibility Gared was to deliver direwolf pups. Coldhands works for a LC, Brynden. We are told Rangers keep disappearing. Some may be dead, but others like Gared, Sam, Mance, and Ben may be running missions for Coldhands/BR. It's even possible BR gave Mance the mission to build the Wildling army. If Benjen was found by Coldhands and asked to return to Winterfell to be the Stark in Winterfell (hidden) until Bran returned, it may make sense in the context if this video. Mance could have done this to secretly meet with and plan with Benjen. There's a possible Jon layer in there, but I'll avoid it for the moment as this is getting long.
I watch religiously and I want more livestreams plz and thanks. EDITED TO ADD: Out of all the chars keeping their initials but changing their identities/names, I think the funniest would be Arthur Dayne changing his name to Allar Deem, only for Tyrion to have him thrown overboard lol
This is one of those theories that makes me want to get back to writing fantasy because all the moving parts make sense actually. I really like this one, guys! ETA: the villains wiki has some extremely hot takes on who's a villain in general. It has huge comedy potential lmao
Mance could have came down to Winterfall for any combination of your reasonings. If he is Rheagar he could be coming to not just Benjen but also Ned to see how plans are going
If yall ever look for another series to analyze/theorize about I highly recommend the Second Apocalypse by R. Scott Bakker My greatest pitch for the series is imagine a political fantasy as good as Ice & Fire, but if all the most crackpot theories ended up true. The author is a bit more high fantasy than George, but just as good at plot twists, existentialism, foreshadowing and cosmic horror. Reading the 7 books that are currently out genuinely feels like building up to and then actually getting a crazy Winds of Winter. It's a great read for pleasure as is, but there's also at least one more book in the works so there is a LOT to theorycraft with. Though no RUclipsrs have really jumped on it despite the series' recent spike in popularity.
Really love your Content. Do you consider posting it to the typical podcast sites? I would love for it to be more convinient, to listen to you two goof off, while driving.
I didn’t hear any mention of the horn found with the cache of dragon glass weapons! I can’t remember if Sam (from Horn Hill) has it still or not. This theory is fun and connects to one of my greatest disappointments from the show: the ultimate non-importance of the crypts of winterfell. Also I feel like the potential power of Rhaegar and the harp could have been examined more. Especially since the Stark ladies have a soft spot for music.
This is related to my theory regarding Petyr Baelish.... get it? He is kind of Bael-ish! Just like Beal snuck into houses to leave his seed so did little finger with Sweet Robin....and Sansa
I'm gonna guess before finishing the video: Mance is actually Lyanna Stark
There is something just a little comforting that kind of feels like solidarity to have new videos from all these creators on completely different topics in completely different genres start their newest videos with basically "So something not so chill happened guys" and then go on and just keep creating
First of all thank you so much for continuing to shout out Within Strange Aeons in the description, means the world to me ^_^
secondly, the idea of a young rhaegar targaryen sneaking down to finally see his wife's tomb, after seeing their son for the first time in his life... and not being able to be open about any of his emotions except for here in the dark alone... and he chooses to leave something as vital and world changing as the horn there, with her.
i am picturing him talking to her grave and saying something to the affect of 'see now you know i'll be back to see you my love... you take care of the horn, and i'll take care of our boy' hell he could have left the horn AND his harp with her purely as an act of love, since he can't come back to lay flowers after all
Been waiting for years for someone to speak the truth. Man broke into a house and called himself Home Intruder
I should point out that one of Osha’s group in A Game of Thrones is a Night’s Watch deserter who’s name is, ostensibly, Wallen.
It's wild to me that you say that "Manse Raider" is a name that you would change if you were a candidate in a Wildling election. That's like saying you would change the name Sea Scourge if you were at a Kingsmoot.
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Speaking of bad fake names for some reason my brain immediately went to a Faceless Man going by Ace-less Dan, a guy who just really sucks at poker
If Mance was still a sworn brother when Jon was a kid, he 100% knows Ben Stark and knows him well. Moreover, if Mance was one of the brothers who travelled, it opens the door for him to know a lot more people south of wall than you would think and to have been active in (or at least aware of) the conspiracy shenanigans before and during the rebellion. We know that Aemon was all up in that mess by correspondence at minimum. I feel like Charlie looking for Pepe Silva right now, but there is an entirely plausible Ocean's 11 plot here in the background just waiting to be found.
Mance also knows a boar warg…. Just sayin… future theory. If he didn’t like the “measure” of Bobby B.
Also, boar warg is fun to say.
What’s with the Stark Ladies having a weakness for music that ends in turmoil?
We got 1) Brandon Stark’s daughter getting seduced by Bael the Bard and then their kid (according to story/rumor) grows up to kill his own father during a wildling raid
2) Lyanna Stark running off with Rhaegar Targaryen after hearing him sing which is the direct cause of Robert’s Rebellion and
3) Sansa being so enamored with love stories in songs she’s heard (songs sung by Mance Rayder?) that her desire to be like one of the maidens in those songs is a big catalyst in the downfall of her family
Rob Banks is Max Fosh, who is also known for the “Welcome to Luton” prank at Heathrow airport, for gay marrying into the Royal Family, and much other English mischief
Mance wanted access to Winterfell's library, maybe? The one that conveniently burned down after Jon's party set out for the Wall.
Wait wait wait wait that's really good
@@InterestingNerdClubmaybe not-Mance went the winterfell library to steal the declaration of independence like the hit movie National Treasure (2004)
@@InterestingNerdClubmaybe not-Mance was there to steal the declaration of independence like the hit movie National Treasure (2004)
Also a good place to find a map of Winterfell! Honestly after stealing anything in particular, starting a fire is the best cover for whatever you stole. Slots in very nicely with Mance hiring the Cat’s Paw
i one shotted this in my brain at the opening quote
Okay, but the chair thing is brilliant. Also, as someone who once worked at a college library, I gotta tell you that if it was a student librarian, there's a very significant chance they 1) wouldn't be paying attention, and 2) would find it super funny if they did notice.
What about this- Rhaegar was there to “get the measure of the Southron King” Jon Snow. The King being Jon Snow. And he was Raiding the Manse to steal Jon Snow and bring him north
His “beyond important” quest that “nobody can know about” is to get Jon to fulfill the prophecy.
Symbolically you could say that Jon the Southron King is the “horn of winter” in this case
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What's happening in the next 4 years? Did I miss something in the news?
I really appreciate this theory, because it gives a better explanation for Mance's too-on-the-nose name, other than just George forgetting to change the placeholder he left.
And by "better" I mean literally any other explanation.
I watch religiously but my participation in the comment section is more akin to my church attendance.
Perhaps he was dropping off a dragon's egg into the crypts of Winterfell. That's what starts John's Dragon dreams. He was just giving his son his birthright dragon.
Might be the whiskey. But this is true
I don't think it's just the whiskey. Unless it's just the weed.
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A new Larys theory you say? Colour me intrigued. Also thanks for the shoutout!
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The name Alleras is convenient so Samwell Tarly can eventually identify the riddle, aka the sphinx. Prove me wrong
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There are some interesting possibilities in here. Some that make sense if I'm correct and Benjen is hiding in the Crypts, and is the Hooded Man that Theon sees.
First, old theory, Mance actually came all the way up from KL. He was technically there to deliver the package containing the myrish eye and note from Lysa.
Your connection to Benjen is actually interesting and one I'd like to see explored more. First of all it's reasonable to assume Gared was sent with the pregnant direwolf, by Coldhands. It's interesting for a number of reasons that might not fit in thus comment. I'll summerize them by pointing put the fact Sam was sent by Coldhands to retrieve Bran and the possibility Gared was to deliver direwolf pups. Coldhands works for a LC, Brynden. We are told Rangers keep disappearing. Some may be dead, but others like Gared, Sam, Mance, and Ben may be running missions for Coldhands/BR. It's even possible BR gave Mance the mission to build the Wildling army.
If Benjen was found by Coldhands and asked to return to Winterfell to be the Stark in Winterfell (hidden) until Bran returned, it may make sense in the context if this video. Mance could have done this to secretly meet with and plan with Benjen.
There's a possible Jon layer in there, but I'll avoid it for the moment as this is getting long.
I watch religiously and I want more livestreams plz and thanks. EDITED TO ADD: Out of all the chars keeping their initials but changing their identities/names, I think the funniest would be Arthur Dayne changing his name to Allar Deem, only for Tyrion to have him thrown overboard lol
The chair story is brilliant!
This is one of those theories that makes me want to get back to writing fantasy because all the moving parts make sense actually. I really like this one, guys!
ETA: the villains wiki has some extremely hot takes on who's a villain in general. It has huge comedy potential lmao
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Mance could have came down to Winterfall for any combination of your reasonings. If he is Rheagar he could be coming to not just Benjen but also Ned to see how plans are going
GUYS!!! black cloak, red silk! Wouldn’t a TARG want that?!
At least Rob Banks is slightly more wholesome than the name Rob Graves.
You can pretty much go wherever you want if you wear coveralls and carry a ladder
I was laughing at the chair story and dropped my toast 🥲
Do you know "Our Hilts Hurt"? Those guys with the 2 of you would be crazy.
If yall ever look for another series to analyze/theorize about I highly recommend the Second Apocalypse by R. Scott Bakker
My greatest pitch for the series is imagine a political fantasy as good as Ice & Fire, but if all the most crackpot theories ended up true.
The author is a bit more high fantasy than George, but just as good at plot twists, existentialism, foreshadowing and cosmic horror. Reading the 7 books that are currently out genuinely feels like building up to and then actually getting a crazy Winds of Winter.
It's a great read for pleasure as is, but there's also at least one more book in the works so there is a LOT to theorycraft with. Though no RUclipsrs have really jumped on it despite the series' recent spike in popularity.
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4:00 I watch your videos but never comment in general, I think this is my third one in 10+ years of YT.
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Coming into this on the back of getting my heart broken by Arcane season 2 episode 6’s ending
Not to forget he wrote WELCOME TO LUTON near the approach path to Gatwick airport
Really love your Content. Do you consider posting it to the typical podcast sites? I would love for it to be more convinient, to listen to you two goof off, while driving.
That is such a deeply fantastic chair story honestly.
I didn’t hear any mention of the horn found with the cache of dragon glass weapons! I can’t remember if Sam (from Horn Hill) has it still or not.
This theory is fun and connects to one of my greatest disappointments from the show: the ultimate non-importance of the crypts of winterfell.
Also I feel like the potential power of Rhaegar and the harp could have been examined more. Especially since the Stark ladies have a soft spot for music.
This is related to my theory regarding Petyr Baelish.... get it? He is kind of Bael-ish!
Just like Beal snuck into houses to leave his seed so did little finger with Sweet Robin....and Sansa
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