Should Chelsea and Nerissa Have Been Separate Characters? (Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
  • Although storyboards for "Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken" had Chelsea be the daughter of the mermaid queen, Nerissa, this was changed for the final cut to have them be the same character. Was this a wise decision by the filmmakers? And how would either outcome impact a potential sequel/series?
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  • @alexhurtado4381
    @alexhurtado4381 9 месяцев назад +37

    I personally would’ve had Chelsea and Nerissa be separate characters.

  • @JadenBunch
    @JadenBunch 9 месяцев назад +32

    Also, the director stated that Chelsea sees herself as the hero in the movie, and I believe Agatha imprisoned the mermaids including Nerissa, Nerissa plotted revenge for 15 years and somehow managed to escape her imprisonment, and when Nerissa said that she and the other mermaids don’t age, I personally think she said it as an insult to Grandmamah, and the trailers didn't spoil Chelsea being the mermaid Queen, DreamWorks in Mexico spoiled it saying she was the queen of the mermaids.

    • @jessealvarado7796
      @jessealvarado7796 9 месяцев назад +2

      i should've known

    • @mandcbriceno8939
      @mandcbriceno8939 9 месяцев назад +1

      I know that Chelsea and nerissa are separated sirens or the Chelsea is Nerissa’s Daughter What Cha Think?🤔

    • @mandcbriceno8939
      @mandcbriceno8939 8 месяцев назад +1

      And Did Ya Know That Some mermaids may be Have Both Female Gender sex and male gender sex because they might have mate each other but when But Sometimes mermen made mermaids pregnant and some of that that when an male mermaid Strangely Morphed in into female sex the female may it pregnant weird huh but when there’s no more male mermen to mate with they on their own as immortals but they either have sex with human male or have an asexual to make babies for themselves or better have sex with each other by an female mermaid’s Male gender to mate with an another mermaid, Maybe impregnated the female human (if Bisexual lesbian) Or Maybe Mate With An Female Kraken If cause it’s mermaids strange nature’s Mysteries and Because I want That to happen when the maybe Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken Part Four Or The Third movie Can Make Well You Thought If Human Kraken Hybrid Babies YOU HAVEN’T SEEN A BUNCH OF BABY MERMAID-KRAKEN HYBRIDS SO : CHELBY ROCKSSSSS!!!!!! AND UHH ABOUT WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE MERMAIDS THEORY LOOK-IT-UP IN YOUR COMPUTERS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT ITS TRUE!😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁💗💗💗🤍💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗🤍🤍💗💗💗💗💗💗🤍💜💖💞💕💕💝💝💝💘💕💞💞💕💝💘🤨💙💙🩵🩵🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂💙💖💕💕💖💖🤍🤍😇🤎😇💜💜💖💖💞💕💕💝💝💝💘🥳🥳🥰💘💝💝💕💖💕💝🥳🥳💘💘💝💝💘🥳🥳🥰💘💘💘💝💘To Them (Ruby And Chelsea) 🩵🤎💜💞💙💙🤎💜🤎🤎🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️‼️⁉️⁉️‼️❓❓‼️⁉️⁉️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💝💘💖💞🩶❤️🧡💞💕❣️❣️💕💓🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈☁️🌈☁️☁️☁️☁️🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈☀️☀️☀️🌈☀️but don’t worry I still pray for them : RAPTUREMAN OUT YO🧜🏻‍♀️🦑💫💫💫💫⭐️🌟🌟⭐️🌟🌟🐙🌸👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩👭🐬❤❤Chelsea: Someday, Or Maybe?

    • @terrenceseverino493
      @terrenceseverino493 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@mandcbriceno8939did you think those you said are real tell me the information so I can review it.

  • @Songal18
    @Songal18 9 месяцев назад +22

    I actually LIKE how you portrayed a Nerissa and Chelsea being separate and it being Nerissa's husband who was killed first to get to her. In fact they could double twist where Nerissa DID have a daughter named Chelsea and it became a family name where everyone of Nerissa's line were named one of those two names, thus Grandmama could be right, but also wrong because the Nerissa she's thinking about not having a daughter is the one going by Chelsea now and Agatha DID kill Nerissa's mother but with how the family name for them works it all gets mixed up. Sure it'd be confusing at first but then Chelsea could explain/show the battle her mother and Ruby's mother faced. Heck add in that the reason Nerissa/Chelsea's mother and Agatha fought WAS because of the death of her husband. Nerissa/Chelsea would connect herself as "killing the Kraken's" by her family's bloodline and she would then kill Agatha, Grandmama or Ruby to continue her family's legacy. Sorry if this is all over the place, maybe somebody can fix it and make sense of it?

  • @c9799-r1u
    @c9799-r1u 7 месяцев назад +9

    With Ruby Gillman becoming really popular on Netflix I think there might be a good chance for Ruby Gillman to have a future and if that happens I hope they make nerisa and Chelsea separate and give Chelsea a better motivation

  • @bitterflywing
    @bitterflywing 9 месяцев назад +15

    honestly, yes.
    I think ruby might have actually loved chelsea.
    them going to prom together (even as friends) would have been revolutionary.

    • @achinthmurali5207
      @achinthmurali5207 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe. It definitely would be interesting. What about what this video suggests in the end?

    • @terrenceseverino493
      @terrenceseverino493 8 месяцев назад

      What if the second movie Gordon never show his family and he prison Nerissa what if he turned into her daughter because I've thinking of it all night like how to be friendly and helpful and act as a good person like that and personaly I like that Nerrissa and Chelsea are separated because someone said Nerrissa will return. And because of that Nerrissa will change his identity as a mermaid.

  • @achinthmurali5207
    @achinthmurali5207 8 месяцев назад +6

    I know this movie didn’t market itself at all. But the marketing, and the story that they went with, ended up, making it full of wasted potential
    I call it the marketing paradox. The things that marketing executives and advertisers do to try to make movies or products more “marketable” is exactly what drives consumers away. They wanted this movie to be a superhero coming of age story, because those are considered marketable and safe, bets. Instead
    , if the directors had stuck with the original plan and made Nerissa and Chelsea several characters and expanded on the movie, then it probably wouldn’t of bombed because more people would’ve went to see it after the word-of-mouth made it much better. This applies to more than just movies. Products from Apple or RUclips advertisements or even new laws that are supposed to be popular end of being unpopular because people try too hard to relate to other other others.

    • @terrenceseverino493
      @terrenceseverino493 8 месяцев назад

      You know you are very genius I really wanted to happen in the next movie of ruby and make Chelsea and Nerrissa become separated into two characters like he lie that Chelsea was Nerrissa.

  • @achinthmurali5207
    @achinthmurali5207 8 месяцев назад +8

    How did Grandma KNOW Nerisa never had a daughter?

  • @angelotero-ht3qr
    @angelotero-ht3qr 9 месяцев назад +9

    Well yeah mayde nerrisa and chelsea have to separe. Is was cool to see chelsea fight with your mother . Well i hope dreamworks create a remake or rebbot or tv series for this movie and have universe to see other monsters fight with the krakens.

    • @mandcbriceno8939
      @mandcbriceno8939 8 месяцев назад +2

      Hmmm I don’t know because that’s like An Time Travel Trauma War

    • @angelotero-ht3qr
      @angelotero-ht3qr 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@mandcbriceno8939 yeah

    • @terrenceseverino493
      @terrenceseverino493 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@angelotero-ht3qrmaybe they can't remake because it already exists.

  • @houstonvlogger_0351
    @houstonvlogger_0351 8 месяцев назад +5

    I love it when you Make a Ruby Gillman series
    Can you do about why Arthur and Agatha keep secrets or the scene where Brill comes in and Arthur is like Oh No… maybe Arthur doesn’t like Brill

  • @michaelbrent1536
    @michaelbrent1536 9 месяцев назад +6

    I’m still waiting for DreamWorks to make TV series for rise of the guardians! Also, I think movies like Nimona,Pagemaster and FireBreather should get TV series! If Ruby Gilman ever does get a TV Siri, I want them to explore of the Kraken, the mermaids, and the other monsters in the sea sort of like Danny phantom, my life as a teenage robot,Ben 10 and Generator Rex! I wonder what other Disney properties DreamWorks will poke fun at next Mulan,Pocahontas,Sora(Kingdom Hearts),Wreck It Ralph,Tron, Beauty and the beast, Winnie the Pooh, Sofia the first,Elsa or Mickey Mouse himself!

  • @saphirawinters7028
    @saphirawinters7028 7 месяцев назад +4

    I feel like they should have been 2 different characters.

  • @gil12523
    @gil12523 5 месяцев назад +3

    My biggest problem with Ruby Gillman wasn't the story, the script, the characters, the animation, much less the trailers. But yes, Chelsea being the villain of the film.

  • @achilleasvaitsis4343
    @achilleasvaitsis4343 Месяц назад +1

    In my opinion, the Nerissa plot twist felt rushed and clumsily executed. While Chelsea was initially portrayed as your stereotypical mean girl, she was shown to have her share of redeeming qualities, like sincerely feeling sorry for Ruby’s plight and helping her out of her depression.
    DreamWorks could have easily made a sympathetic antagonist out of Chelsea, portraying her as a tragedy-stricken child who thinks revenge will solve all of her problems and give her a sense of purpose, only to realise how wrong that kind of mentality really is. But, considering the fact that DreamWorks Animation’s CEO, Jeffrey Katzenberg, had a not-so-secret grudge against Disney Animation and “The Little Mermaid” in particular, I guess that wasn’t an option. 😔☹️

  • @ivanacurna6577
    @ivanacurna6577 8 месяцев назад +2

    😅Hate to break it you but Disney did give us evil mermaids before the movie, at least in tv shows like those mermaids in one episode in Pair of Kings and Seline, the witch mermaid from Aladdin. Bit it's true DreamWorks makes it obvious.

  • @williamfurnoprime177
    @williamfurnoprime177 8 месяцев назад +3

    If she not redeemable, I'm making a soundtrack nerissa return in ruby gillman adventure on oceanside

  • @lorguillerbacong9150
    @lorguillerbacong9150 8 месяцев назад +2

    I agree that Chelsea should have been the daughter of the Mermaid Queen herself, Nerissa. Chelsea could have some redemption for her character if that were the case. Since then, I may envision she and Ruby have been Sea Bubbies. Before the climax of this film, she and Ruby had a great dynamic. You know they were hanging out, exploring the ocean, and having a great time. But boy, was I wrong; when Ruby got the trident for Chelsea in the climax, Chelsea had a split-second to do the right thing by giving the trident to Ruby's Grandmother and ending a 15-year war with the Krakens. But NO, instead, she had to betray Ruby by attacking her and then going after her mom and grandmother. Reigniting the great war between Krakens and Mermaids that broke my heart and stunned me. Like seriously, all that bonding and fun had to be thrown away because of one stupid weapon. Chelsea, at first, was kind and respectful to me. And awesome. But now I see her as manipulative, evil, and a disgrace.

  • @jmachero5852
    @jmachero5852 4 месяца назад +1

    You know, I found this fanfic called Breaking The Generation Cycle. It both serves as an AU and continuation of the movie where it shows that Nerissa and Chelsea ain’t the same person and a more greying morality and an expansion how Kraken and mermaids became enemies. I heard it was pretty good.

  • @Zebra_fandomfella03
    @Zebra_fandomfella03 7 месяцев назад +2

    We'll even though I had fun watching that movie, i wasn't really a big fan of that twist, and that scrapped plot point about Chelsea being Nerisa's daughter could have made the movie better lore wise

    • @jmachero5852
      @jmachero5852 6 месяцев назад +1

      If that was in the final release. It would’ve been more thought provoking but I don’t think that matters now that they scrapped it.

  • @achinthmurali5207
    @achinthmurali5207 8 месяцев назад +2

    It took DreamWorks 10 years to decide on making a Megamind TV show. When it comes to television, Dreamworks tends to be either really quick or really slow.

  • @void_summoner_89
    @void_summoner_89 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have my own head canon for chelsea and nerisa being separate characters. As in chelsea would be working with her mother but when she met Ruby, she started becoming friends with her and started to rethink her plans with her mother. But her mother would remind her about their plans. Until after ruby gets the Trident and nerisa shows up to steal it. Chelsea tells her mother to stop and what they're doing is wrong. Nerisa takes the Trident and leaves chelsea and ruby trap. I even imagine Chelsea helping ruby and her mother and grandmama to stop her mother. After the fight nerisa begs her daughter to help her, but she refuses and continues being friends with ruby.

  • @juliane.mfarias9285
    @juliane.mfarias9285 Месяц назад

    I would add very clearly that realeasing Nerisa would also release the entire population of the Mermaids from prision.

  • @darienschnucker7354
    @darienschnucker7354 4 месяца назад +1

    Dreamworks is NOT challanging the status que their just being pettty, what they are doing is saying that sterotyps are bad while than sticking to sterotyps only with other pepole being the Target, basicly they were woke before everyone else, is just funny how much they have become.

  • @doublet6118
    @doublet6118 9 месяцев назад +8

    I'll admit I've been soured on the idea of them being separate considering how rampant it is in the fandom but I feel like a lot people forget even when Chelsea was separate she was still just as evil as Nerissa. Was the motivations different? Yes. But both Chelsea and Nerissa manipulated Ruby and were both eager to murder the krakens. Even in the pitch test, Chelsea was stealing and almost drowned a person for the kick of it. Chelsea from her inception was evil in some shape or form. Personally, I've grown to really love Nerissa as a twist. There's a lot of story potential to explore with her post-RGTK, which all but gets ignored, such as if Nerissa is captured and no longer in charge what kind of mermaid will step up to take her place? Or what about a story where Nerissa and Ruby are forced to work together to stop a greater threat such as a Leviathan? The fact that they're now mortal enemies but both understand each other on a personal level could lend to really interesting interactions! Ruby could be the only one who knows HOW to motivate Nerissa into helping as Agatha and Grandmamah don't.

    • @mandcbriceno8939
      @mandcbriceno8939 8 месяцев назад +1

      But then that’s when they look it up about CHELBY : Ruby X Chelsea In Love Yeah LOL ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ votes#Votes ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @terrenceseverino493
      @terrenceseverino493 8 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe I could share my idea."if Gordon have no family or his daughter are already have a husband because Gordon is too old.but Nerrissa was in prison what if he make Nerrissa into a daughter of Gordon and teach her how to be a good and kind and act as the good person as a mermaid.because I've been thinking of it all night. and Nerrissa will realize that being a evil is bad after all if he had all like he took all the power he will be powerful but also lonely without his friends.if Nerrissa become a good mermaid he could have alot of friends because if you friends are the greatest thing you could enjoy together. explore together.i wish that my idea are helpful enough for second movie.

    • @lavaninja1042
      @lavaninja1042 7 месяцев назад +1

      Ok I’m admit I didn’t think of it that way, it could work like a Thor and Loki moment.
      I think the movie drop the ball in creatively since the tropes and stab at Disney could have work if it have a little more time.

    • @jmachero5852
      @jmachero5852 6 месяцев назад

      @@lavaninja1042how could it be a Thor & Loki moment.

    • @lavaninja1042
      @lavaninja1042 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jmachero5852 moment the wrong word I meant dynamic, yeah dynamic the right word.

  • @michaeliv284
    @michaeliv284 5 месяцев назад

    I can reconcile Chelsea killing Kracken while also being Neressa's kid; Mermaids do age, just slower. So she could have killed a few, just not as much as mama

  • @marshmallowfluff2nd413
    @marshmallowfluff2nd413 5 месяцев назад

    I DEFINITELY would've preferred if they were separated characters because I thought up in my version of how it should've been without the lame predictable twist that she is Nerissa in disguise.
    -have Chelsea and Nerissa are separated
    -Chelsea claims that her mother is dead but it turns out that she's alive
    Yeah it's kind of corny but it's better than the lame twist in my opinion.😅🤷🏾‍♀️