Lola's diagnosis explained by an expert
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This is what is going on with Lola.
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That is so interesting that she appears lame in the back end but it's being generated from the front. You guys have so much knowledge and she's in good hands. Great information and thanks for the update.
Yes!!!
For those who are interested, cynical or wary of 'woo'-type treatments. I'm a retired medical physicist.
PEMF (of which Magnawave is a brand name of a machine providing this) is a legitimate treatment which, in well-conducted tests and trials internationally, shows definite analgesic effects for musculo-skeletal pain in some (not all!) subjects, in both the human animal and domestic animals.
These types of therapy are much more widely used in veterinary medicine than in human medicine for a whole range of reasons, but IMO, deserve to have more exposure in human medicine as although they are _not_ a panacea, when they are effective they are a much better solution, especially for certain types of chronic pain, than are opioids and NSAIDs.
Not cynical at all.
The problem with magna wave and PEMF in general is that there aren't enough controlled studies that have been done.
The few I've seen have used a very small number of horses in the studies.
With as much money as magna wave is making, they need to get good, scientifically sound studies done.
A great start would be to take the performance befores of horses like this and then ride after PEMF session and video. Every time.
It would definitely be interesting to see if it helps riding performance over time, if it's just a short term help that has to be done forever or if it's just something that makes the horse more comfortable for pasture life in general.
Have to use good, reputable trainers though.
@@tracyjohnson5023 There are PEMF studies that have been done on other animals, though - of all sorts and by very reputable institutions - and changes are seen at a cellular level, so are widely applicable across species. Large animal studies (meaning large as in the size of the animal) of sufficient magnitude (meaning large enough numbers of animals) are incredibly difficult and expensive to organise, and virtually impossible to perform to the standards required in the sort of numbers which we see in small animal studies and even human studies,
I've been in pain for decades. I went to a practicioner for 'strain/counterstrain' that also sounds like woo-woo, but he got me out of pain for the first time in years 45.
I am a practitioner who provides PEMF (and other therapies) to humans primarily, but also to animals. It is astounding how quickly and profoundly PEMF heals patients of all species with a variety of complaints.
So cool to see PEMF on your channel. I am a PEMF practitioner/acupuncturist who primarily works on humans and it’s done tremendous things for my patients. PEMF saved one of my horses acutely from a colic and its regular use enhances their performance too. So glad to see awareness of this therapy is growing! I’m sure Lola will feel much better.
What an eye opener. So glad you called in a specialist ❤❤❤
I am so glad that she is getting some relief. It is going to be interesting watching her movement change as this improves. Thank you for sharing.
Clear and very nicely detailed explanation of Lola's problem. I really like this vet and the way she connected all the dots showing us how it all works together, telling us what is most likely happening beneath that golden coat and Lola reacting immediately as further proof of the vet's diagnosis. This was one of those great teachable moments we all benefit from. 🌟
Great study in horse physique. I learned so much with this lesson.
Came looking for an update after seeing Lola's bucking video on fb. Glad to see shes being treated. She looked to be sore, unfortunately common in halter horse conformation.
Glad to see a Magnawave. It is a fantastic therapy.
It all makes sense! Will be interesting to watch how this mare evens out with her body movement maneuvered to where it needs to be. Her mind and body are will change all for the better. Lots of work ahead but once her mind clicks at how much better she feels and moves she will probably look forward to being handled and ridden. A reward.....
Thank you for the reminder to offer my horses the Masterson Method esp now, on our winter slow time ❤
Fascinating! And I already knew her issues were in the front. Suspected head/neck source. Thank you for sharing this! Blessings from NW Florida!
Thank you for sharing, I think this is going to be a great eye opener for a lot of people! This therapist is really well informed & passionate too!
Poor lady! I’m so glad y’all were able to find out what is going on. As someone who has dealt with nerve pain a lot, her crankiness is definitely understandable!! That’s some intense pain. Thanks for all the info!! ❤
Good morning guys. What a great Vet you have, Thank you for video Tim & Melinda.
Going to be great to see her progress....
Thanks for making this video! Everything described for Lola is exactly what my gelding and I are dealing with, and the extra info about the placement of the nerves really makes everything click together. My guy and I are doing everything that the vet/specialist recommended here, which is reassuring to me---not just a coincidence that he's doing so much better. These days he isn't nearly so ouchie as Lola, but I definitely got some eye daggers from him when I first started trying to figure out what was up. Wish I'd had this video a couple of years ago; it wouldn't have taken me so long to put together all the different pieces!
That was very informative. I hope you continue to bring us along on that journey.
Interesting! Wish I could find a second lifetime to study equine musculature further. 😊
Do you have a link to the last horse she treated? Id like to learn more about her. I loved her clear explanation of everything.
This is a terrific video!! Thanks!!!
I do not remember the name of the video but it was Bowie. If you look in his play list you should be able to find it there.
The owner of my horse boarding facility has been using magna wave therapy for about 5 yrs. now. It is an amazing treatment for horses and humans! She also is trained and certified in the Masterson Method. I have his book and DVD. It really is amazing to use Masterson on my horse and watch him release. This horse body therapist you brought in to work on Lola is a gem!!
This is very good info as I have a mare much like this. We have been doing transitions already but great to hear it can help.
Excellent video. My horse loves magna wave treatment and he is similar to Lola on the front end and shoulders. Very tense and tight there. We have been doing this for about 6 months and has made a world of difference.
I would think that and acupuncture would do a lot of good for this mare. Very interesting video, thanks for posting.
It possibly would but I don't have that resource close to me.
Please tell me WHY people can’t get this kind of a doctor. If I told you my story (not disimilar to Lola’s) and the gaslighting from terrible doctors, it would make you SICK.
Good on you for realizing that something weird was up! You knew it from the get-go and realized that it was a bit “something more” than just normal horse riding soreness. If I ever were to get a horse, I would want you to train it!
People can have this kind of a doctor. You just have to look for holistic providers in your area. Many people (like me) who do PEMF on horses also offer it to humans.
@@jessicamanson7694 I had NO CLUE! Thank you so much for letting me know. It's been one heck of a ride and I had no clue that doctors like these exist.
Aww Lola….❤
Wow, all this stuff we never knew about this 20 years ago...my poor horse 😮 what is that thing I wish you would have started by saying what she is doing this is fascinating.
Thank you. A great tool to find nerve and muscle problems.
This analysis and discussion was very interesting.
Very interesting
Tim, you and your channel offers a WEALTH of information, greatest appreciation always! I consider the knowledge you share a wonderful gift!❤
Fascinating. I was considering chiropractic adjustment on my short-strided mare but now i have to wonder if she has more of a problem like Lola. Either way, I believe I'm on the right path with daily gentle work. I will be trying to make her use her hind even more. She also is very grumpy about cinching (always has been, even before the short striding) even though I'm very slow and careful and I now wonder whether that's a symptom of nerve pain in the shoulder area (brachial plexus)? I sure appreciate your videos and have tried to apply things I learn. Thank you.
Oh it weaves....no wonder muscles suffering. If 'working through it' was a cure...I'd never have to pay my osteopath! Crabby horse in pain, what a shocker. Hope she gets relief.shes obviously easily stressed as evidenced by the weaving.
we need to think of what we are doing to the horse's skeleton when we are adding musculature for halter.
❤ brilliant description. Thanks 👍
I use magna therapy on my mare and have used it on myself. Works well.
Thanks for showing these type videos. There is so much out there, and I think many of the veterinarians in practice don't know about new methodologies.
I actually watched her being introduced and thought her gait was way off. Great job on finding it! Also what is the circle thing the vet is using? Nvm! - just saw what it is in the comments!
This was soooo interesting.
Have you considered a chiropractor? Sometimes they can help pinched nerves.
Not what this horse needs.
What does magnawave do?
So in previous video you said she was being rebellious and until something happened to change your mind. What took place to make you think it was an injury?
yay! she will become less cranky and more willing just by doing what Tim was working on anyway.
What is she using? I have seen them but do not know what they are and how they work
Magnawave
What machine is that?
PEMF magnaWave therapy
Has this horse had radiographs (from every angle) or better yet, MRI of both front feet? Just curious.
What is that treatment she is giving Lola?
The stall weaving contributed too I bet
That's the horse I said could benefit from magnesium oxide, selenium and vit e. This confirms my thoughts.
How did you know that ,,, due to the way she was moving ? ,,,,, just here for the education and I like what Tim does ,,,
She could be seen by an Otteopath to help also. My understanding that some work on horses.
What is the white tool that the vet is using? How does it work?
The white ring puts out a pulsing electromagnetic field that stimulates the muscles. In person you can hear the pulse from the machine and see the muscle twitch with the pulse. Similar to a tens unit but uses the electromagnetic field instead of current. It's like massaging charlie horse muscles that are too deep to get to physically.
It would help to know who your expert us and what she's doing and the thing she's using
I went over all that the last time she treated a horse..
Would equine massage therapy help possiby?
Wouldn't hurt but the muscles effected are pretty deep. Probably more effective with helping with the secondary effected areas.
@@timandersonhorsetraining good point, Thanks
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What is the devise that is being used?
Magnawave
PSSM POSITIVE?
No
Has she ever had to work through soreness? Some horses will work through soreness, and some will not.
Nearly every horse that comes in is out of shape and when they start working has various degrees of soreness. They will all work through it if you don't push too hard too quick.
Wow, that girl can talk
Is she a vet or something else? Osteopath?
She is trained and has several certifications one being in this type of therapy. It is the job of a good trainer to be able to coordinate and holistically treat each horse using whatever methods that individual horse needs. She is one of my resources. I have a blog post discussing this holistic approach to horse training. helpwithmyhorse.com/holistic-training-for-horses-with-behabior-challenges/
Ground work ground work ground work
This is about being in a field not having a job
no offence but you doing what you normally do should fix the issue if I'm understanding correctly. what she is doing equates to a temporary solution. what do vets have to say regarding this, I'm curious? it smacks of chiropractic's, and any doctor worth his salt will have issue with that practice. I just hate to see people waste money on what looks like a pseudoscience. I'm not an expert and don't really know what I'm talking about this is just my opinion based on very little.
This is basic sports medicine. It's a way to mechanically massage a cramped muscle that is too deep to physically massage with your hands. No more pseudoscience than you rubbing your calf when you get a cramp.
I'm unsubscribing and un-recommending your videos. This magnawave BS is too much. This lady is ripping you off. And she has you so convinced you're advertising it to others.
Bye!
Such an unimaginative flounce. He really needs more drama lessons.
Sorry you have such a closed mind.
I'm a retired medical physicist and PEMF (of which Magnawave is a brand name) is no more 'BS' than are X-rays or TENS.
The word "holistic" told me all I needed I know. I wish all of you well and hope Lola finds the help she needs.
What machine is that?