Luv the new camera angle! It's like virtual reality. More please. It helps people to realize how physically demanding being a trainer really is. The coordination, the timing, the strength required, not to mention the reflexes and yes it's dizzying. That's reality!
@@timandersonhorsetrainingNo!My gosh, that is annoying to watch. Don't record your videos with a GoPro on your chest. It makes the viewer dizzy. LOL 13:15
Boy , can I relate to this ! My Arabian was like him and Sabre when I got him with NO respect for me or my space. He spooked when I was leading him and he knocked me down on the ground . I have spent the last few years getting him to focus on me, respect my space , and to think more. He is a different horse now. I didn't say perfect, ha, but MUCH better. I can do everything I do to him without a halter or anything on him loose in a pen that he can run in. I even spray him for flies and can almost paste worm him loose. I really appreciate your suggestion to put objects on the ground so his attention will to be on things outside his pen. I am constantly learning ad becoming a better horsewoman (just turned 78).
marylynnblack9258, Wow! I also have just "become" 78 but am Not in condition for riding now! Kudos to you! I watch all of Tim's videos. He's a well of information and learning, the very best!
Love your comment and you made me feel better about starting a new horse at my age ,,bit younger than you but telling myself this will be the last one i start " 😂ive said that twice before " And like you ,i,m still learning ,, thats one of the beauties of horsemanship , ❤🐎♥️🌄
I prefer the distance videos....I like to watch the horses reaction to your body language and actions. And this view makes me dizzy!😂 That relationship is so important.
Greetings, Tim 🙂 👋 I have just paused, this @14mins. To say, that after watching you deal with this horse, I have even more respect for you. This horse, just shows how dangerous, your day to day job is. I know that you are very experienced, and you are very brave. I just don't want, to see anything bad happen to you. You are so good, to horses. But you are also, so generous and good to all of us, too. From ~ Australia 🇦🇺
I guess it depends on the person. I find the wide angle makes me feel more dizzy. I get motion sickness easily and didn't feel like that with the regular lens. Love the video. Beautiful horse. I love Arabians.
Like the GoPro angle, like Melinda's videos. They each give constructive information. You continued efforts to give verbally and visually make these rich lessons for us as well as for the horses.
I love how you just kept at it and didn’t take it personal. Will be interesting to see his progress. I do prefer the other full on angle so I can see both you and the horse and not so much of the moving. That said we appreciate all you do and always trying new ways to include us on the journey.
Pretty is as pretty does! Love the camera angle for some instances but like watching through your regular camera because I can see your movements and the horses reaction.
The Go Pro is great for your ground work, don't know about riding, as we can't see the entire picture. You're sure right about that horse being dangerous if not corrected. Really want to see the series on this horse. Thank you!
This viewpoint really puts me in the space of the trainer without the danger. It's easy to see what you are observing and that final turn toward you when he was loose was such a moment! I train groundwork all the time (not of this high energy type!) and you have certainly picked a challenging horse to show us today. Fantastic learning opportunity.
I've rescued and worked with Arabian horses, have been told too often they're dangerous, it's mostly just time and patience, and being as smart as an Arabian horse. Love the breed and once you get there, nothing better.
Yeah!! This perspective is nice, it puts us viewers almost right where you are and see what you're seeing. It is a little dizzying but that's alright. Both camera angles would be great
@@timandersonhorsetrainingyes the picture in a picture would be cool but yeah it’s more elaborate editing and sometimes the frame rates differ and can get out of sync. Then you have to boost the audio track and realign them like every 2 minutes 🤦🏻😂
You have the patience and calmness of a saint. This has been a struggle for me but as I watch someone like you it helps me to control my emotions better.
Chest cam really puts everything in perspective. Rewarding him for even 2 steps might seem trivial but I see the progression of the lesson. I learn a lot from watching.thanks for another great vid
Very interesting perspective - I like that a lot! And heck yes, this guy needs some good period of work, and luckily the owner contacted it you, as this is typically the horse that will end up in a kill pen. No manners, no education, thats a complex package. Looking forward to see him making progress! Yet, stay safe Tim!
Oh, this horse HAS received an education; it was poor though. He learned that he can walk through anything he wants to, and he learned to bite during a temper tantrum. He learned that it's hunky dory to push into and through people. He learned lots of not so good things.
Definitely more videos with this camera. I feel as though you are teaching me. It keeps me very focused on what you are doing. And what the horse is doing
I never got the impression that Sabre was dangerous in any deliberate way - just totally amazed at the big wide world out there. He was standing there gob-smacked at Buckingham Palace, like a first-time American tourist in London, and stepped out right in front of a big red London bus, having forgotten that we drive on the other side of the road ... I never saw any harm in him, or felt there was anything deliberate in his reactiveness; he was 'easy to read' for someone accustomed to reactive horses. Phantom has learnt (probably unintentionally been _taught_ , unfortunately) how to express himself in a way that intimidates humans, and that humans don't necessarily merit any attention. I think he could easily be very dangerous in unskilled hands; I'm sure Tim will 'bring him round' but I think he'll need close attention in future if he's not to backslide ...
@Sine-gl9ly Hi 🙂 👋 I probably meant, Sabre was very reactive, and quick. And that there was more of a possibility, of the rider falling off and getting hurt. Because Sabre, was so sheltered in his former home. So he was much more afraid, and unpredictable movements, when being ridden and exposed to things at the beginning. Not a genuine mean streak in him, but still had to be handled with caution by someone experienced. As he is also a big horse 🙂
I like this view and also like the free standing camera. I like to view your calm demeanor and watch you react to every situation, you don’t miss a thing! If this horse hasn’t seriously injured someone, I’d be shocked. You have the experience to handle him but it’s scary to watch!
Brilliant vlog ,,thankyou so much for shareing the very first steps with this challenging boy ,,this truely shows what the real challenges can be ,, and how its vital to spot the nuances of the right behavior and reward it ..and i have to say ,its very lucky for them, you got him to train ,,,this is classic excample of a horse that multiple trainers fail with ,,and gets ruined ( with this boy certainly dangerous) He certainly requires your level of skill .BRAVO ,,,i believe the vlogs you share are leading to a greater awareness of the importance of ground work ..and thats the path to connection and SAFETY, ❤🐎♥️🐎♥️🐎🌄 Thank you so much ...
i like the go pro for ground work, it’s excellent. would like the riding to stay seeing you. thank you for your lessons. i think you are an excellent trainer 👏🏻. i appreciate you passing on your knowledge and experience.. thank you 😊
The wide angle go pro is the bomb! Great to see what you are dealing with! His name sure does fit him. (You are getting your cardio workout with that guy too!) I'm eager to see how he progresses, he's actually pretty darn' smart!
I found the go pro extremely helpful especially when you demonstrated your body position (while lunging you talked about your eyes and torso)Looking forward to seeing his progress with you. I think hes going to be cool! Stay safe
If one or the other, I would prefer the standing camera so we can see your reactions. Ideal would be to put the body cam video in a corner of the screen of the online video. That way when we replay and watch we can see what you saw and how you reacted and hope we can improve our horsemanship skills. And since asking is cheap I would really enjoy the body cam when you're showing! :) Thanks for sharing and teaching us.
LOVE this angle, It is very helpful especially with this horse not respecting space ! I love the other angle from afar too, but I do find this view helpful as I have to work with a horse that has a similar temperament when he is asked to do something from the ground.
The view takes a little getting used to. The obvious case of handling neglect is heartbreaking and I’m so glad he’s in your hands. He is at this point more dangerous than a wild horse. 40 years ago I had one like this and even after months of retraining he popped me with a hind foot when cleaning his feet. I was alone and I’m a female and had learned the Beery Method and laid him down in deep shavings. It took twice in a row to get his respect and I admit it was a barbarity that I never did again, but he was not harmed and it worked. Looking forward to watching your progress.
The Beery Method is an old one. Many people have never heard of it. I happen to live close to the little town where Professor Beery lived, Pleasant Hill, Ohio.
My Daddy, born in 1918, wanted to find a kinder way of training than what was being done. He heard of Professor Beery and ordered his books. He trained very nice family horses that had more trust and relaxation than the poor horses broke with snubbing, bucking, and whipping. I have those books in the box they were delivered in. He passed in 1969. I believe he'd be excited at what's going on in training today. ❤
I like both cameras. Seeing your body language really helps me though to see how you react to him (or others) in certain situations. Our dog trainer said the same thing about our Malinois and any other working breeds, that we could never physically tire him out, it had to be mentally. We had to do things to engage his brain and make him think.
You sir, are teaching me so much. I know nothing about horses, how to train and care for them. I was gifted a filly and I would like to start her out early with the training. You are teaching me what it means to respect a horse and it's power.
This is exactly how you work with a hot I worked Arabian first free lunge to just let them blow steam until they are ready to think and show signs of simmering down and connection. If you start in the lunge they will literally pull you dirt skiing. See how his mind is engaging on the lunge and he’s not running on stupid?
Tim, I really like how much you worked with him on respecting your space, the stopping, the backing. I have had trouble leading my mustangs outside of a round pen. They seem to be doing fine in the pen, but the moment I step out and ask them to walk with me, they are stepping into my space or charging or breaking away from me. The backing and obstacles will probably help me to build more respect for when we're outside the pen. From what I seaw with this horse, it should help. You might want to have another camera filming and edit in a few regular moments to show us the whole picture now and then, like when you were walking and leading him. It was hard to know when he was in your space, except you told us. Most videos would be best the original way, but this one was a good one to try it the way you did. I also liked your focus on his ears. I will try that too. Thanks!
I enjoyed the close up view. It made it easy to see his expressions/signs of what's going on. The stationery camera is good for other overall training views, but to his beginning of training close up was very interesting. May be because I'm a novice and haven't worked with horses for a very long time, and I miss it so much! Possibly I liked the close up view for that reason. Thank you!
Its great to see it from your perspective! All of the sudden what you're saying makes a lot more sense. Seeing the horses gaze, ears and body position towards you shows exactly the respect and paying attention you're talking about (or the lack of it) . It doesn't work so well when the horse is out of sight. To be honest - i would really like to see both views, because on the from the side i can tell your movement and body language during these interactions… one day try to put the camera on the horse’s head - we’d get every point of view 😀 just kidding…
I will leave all the Arabian horses to others. Give me a sensible Quarter Horse any day. Tim you be careful that horse is crazy. Like the new angle too
Really most Arabians are not highly strung. I have bred many in my lifetime, from fine Egyptian desert bred and sturdy polish bloodlines, for the racetrack and just for stable family riding horses, they are beautiful and intelligent. Things only go wrong if mis handled early by humans. Most have stamina and endurance and just need affection and a slow calm manner towards them. They mature physically later, and their bones harden at about 4 years old, if worked too hard before this on hard ground they can throw splints. If well handled as foals, backed at 2 yrs and turned away to mature until Four yrs, they generally make fabulous partners. The problem is people love to watch them show their extended gait and deliberately over excite and chase them about, this is wrong. They are super intelligent and need to understand they can rely on and trust you. Then they can relax and enjoy their ridden work.
Interesting point of view! I think I prefer to see both you and the horse at once, but what I found really interesting with this is your body posture when you're just following, not driving. I haven't been really clear about how to make a difference between the two and now I see that I "face" the horse the same regardless of my intention. Can I ask where your face is pointing? And what are your eyes on? Adding I have to say I'm happy to see this horse, I think it will help me a lot with one of mine so I'm hoping to see more of him. Thank you for posting all this for us!
I have done this in a round pen and I have one and can go there if I need to. In general it's easy to have the round pen as a crutch and think your training is better than it is and can be hard to get out of it. In this pen I don't have that problem.
I enjoyed the angle of the gopro for a short time - but i learn so much from watching you and how you react and train the horse. I feel im missing half of the training process. I will watch no matter how you film. My vote is for Melinda being the camera llady. Thanks for the video. Tabor City, NC
i like this as an additional camera angle. Honestly, I was worried about your safety because your attention being split between the the camera and a dangerous horse. What we as observers in all this is we can't see as much of you and your actions in the session.
Love the vantage point!!! Like we are there, too...makes it more educational, I feel. I also like videos of people explaining what they are doing with their reins from the saddle view.
The GoPro angle puts you right in the action. Wow! I would prefer both angles but understand the editing could get time consuming. Thanks for trying out new options!
Like the camera angle. I predict rapid forward progress once he knows the rules and locks in on you as the leader to be respected. I think he’s showing signs of being pretty smart… which can be a hazard for a novice handler but is an asset in my book.
I REALLY like this GoPro pov! For this type of training. You could get the head mount as well so that when you turn your head we can see everything you do. I’ve watched hunting/jumping and polo matches where the riders wore head mounted ones. Is exciting! It’s variety to add to the standing camera ones as well. I think it might be cool to see some on the horse cuz I can’t always see the cues like legs or reins from the ground. You’ll figure it out like you always do 🙌
When I was nine, I was given a six month old English Shepherd named Belle. Like every other 6 month untrained herding dog she was like this. She wouldn't even come for hamburger. Ornery as. Only reliable on leash. This horse reminds me of her. I am confident that you are a far better trainer than I was or ever shall be. Have you tried the Wayfarer camera set in glasses? They are only good for short takes, but the perspective is great as is the audio. I like this camera for this type of work.
The body camera you are using. Really gets across to the viewer what is really going on. It shows how much knowledge you have with horses. As well as how physically demanding it is. I KNOW I would NOT fair well if I attempted this! 😆🤕
Luv the new camera angle! It's like virtual reality. More please. It helps people to realize how physically demanding being a trainer really is. The coordination, the timing, the strength required, not to mention the reflexes and yes it's dizzying. That's reality!
I suspect the people who like this view are people who work horses and this view feels more normal.
Yes exactly. That's great point. The view from this angle is really helpful.
Well, we're right there with you and the horse! How cool is that?
Well I wood love more wideos like this.... And the camera makes it wery realistisk....
@@timandersonhorsetrainingNo!My gosh, that is annoying to watch. Don't record your videos with a GoPro on your chest. It makes the viewer dizzy. LOL 13:15
Boy , can I relate to this ! My Arabian was like him and Sabre when I got him with NO respect for me or my space. He spooked when I was leading him and he knocked me down on the ground . I have spent the last few years getting him to focus on me, respect my space , and to think more. He is a different horse now. I didn't say perfect, ha, but MUCH better. I can do everything I do to him without a halter or anything on him loose in a pen that he can run in. I even spray him for flies and can almost paste worm him loose. I really appreciate your suggestion to put objects on the ground so his attention will to be on things outside his pen. I am constantly learning ad becoming a better horsewoman (just turned 78).
I meant to say NOT be on things outside his pen.
marylynnblack9258, Wow! I also have just "become" 78 but am Not in condition for riding now! Kudos to you!
I watch all of Tim's videos. He's a well of information and learning, the very best!
A lot arabians have been aloud to act that way. Unfortunately. Good luck.
Same! Consistent work is key both on the ground and in the saddle 3X more ground than saddle at first.
Love your comment and you made me feel better about starting a new horse at my age ,,bit younger than you but telling myself this will be the last one i start " 😂ive said that twice before "
And like you ,i,m still learning ,, thats one of the beauties of horsemanship ,
❤🐎♥️🌄
I prefer the standing camera, so I can see you work with the horse.
He’s smart but, strong willed. This should be interesting to see his progress.
Me also , it's so much more to see him with the horses from a far ! This way is kind of getting me a little dizzy lol
Me too!!
Definitely prefer the standing camera.
Yes me too, the constant camera movement is distracting
Admittedly I was getting dizzy too. Had to give my eyes a rest and come back to it 👍
I prefer the distance videos....I like to watch the horses reaction to your body language and actions. And this view makes me dizzy!😂 That relationship is so important.
Yeah, I think old camera is better when he's riding. Can't see cues or other subtilties with GoPro.
Ya I like the standing camera. I can see what you are doing. But if you don’t have anyone to do it the wide angle is fine. Or maybe a Pivo camera. 📷
Like the distance camera much better as well.
I like this view because in a sense it is like standing with you as you work the horse.
I really like the wide-angle lens. The other one makes me dizzy when you're lunging. This is fascinating. Love your videos.
Greetings, Tim 🙂 👋
I have just paused, this @14mins. To say, that after watching you deal with this horse, I have even more respect for you. This horse, just shows how dangerous, your day to day job is. I know that you are very experienced, and you are very brave. I just don't want, to see anything bad happen to you. You are so good, to horses. But you are also, so generous and good to all of us, too.
From ~ Australia 🇦🇺
The cat cracks me UP ... PHOTO BOMBER... 😂😂😂
For me the stationary camera where I can see the both of you is much more informative. He is a gorgeous horse and lucky to have landed in your hands!
Great job showing how important it is to read the horses actions.
I guess it depends on the person. I find the wide angle makes me feel more dizzy. I get motion sickness easily and didn't feel like that with the regular lens. Love the video. Beautiful horse. I love Arabians.
Like the GoPro angle, like Melinda's videos. They each give constructive information. You continued efforts to give verbally and visually make these rich lessons for us as well as for the horses.
The go pro for ground work and the original way for riding videos. Looking forward to seeing how this horse progresses.
I love how you just kept at it and didn’t take it personal. Will be interesting to see his progress. I do prefer the other full on angle so I can see both you and the horse and not so much of the moving. That said we appreciate all you do and always trying new ways to include us on the journey.
Nice filming many thanks for your time and sharing❤
This is such a great watch!! And im dizzy from watching him go around 😄
Pretty is as pretty does! Love the camera angle for some instances but like watching through your regular camera because I can see your movements and the horses reaction.
The Go Pro is great for your ground work, don't know about riding, as we can't see the entire picture. You're sure right about that horse being dangerous if not corrected. Really want to see the series on this horse. Thank you!
I do like this for awhile-but then sometimes i start getting dizzy 😂
Good work Tim & so much respect for your patience and wisdom in this realm.
Oh, this horse would scare the bajeepers out of me lol....love watching you Tim!!
Brilliant training such skill and patience and well done Robert also❤
What a great view! Tim, you have a great deal of courage dealing with this horse's behavior. More power to you!
This viewpoint really puts me in the space of the trainer without the danger. It's easy to see what you are observing and that final turn toward you when he was loose was such a moment! I train groundwork all the time (not of this high energy type!) and you have certainly picked a challenging horse to show us today. Fantastic learning opportunity.
I've rescued and worked with Arabian horses, have been told too often they're dangerous, it's mostly just time and patience, and being as smart as an Arabian horse. Love the breed and once you get there, nothing better.
I agree.
It was interesting seeing it from your point of view, especially with this king of challenge. And the wide angle was helpful to view.
Yeah!! This perspective is nice, it puts us viewers almost right where you are and see what you're seeing. It is a little dizzying but that's alright. Both camera angles would be great
I think both angles together would be great but it would make editing much more time consuming.
@@timandersonhorsetrainingyes the picture in a picture would be cool but yeah it’s more elaborate editing and sometimes the frame rates differ and can get out of sync. Then you have to boost the audio track and realign them like every 2 minutes 🤦🏻😂
@@user-jwill That's true that's true, haha
You have the patience and calmness of a saint. This has been a struggle for me but as I watch someone like you it helps me to control my emotions better.
Chest cam really puts everything in perspective. Rewarding him for even 2 steps might seem trivial but I see the progression of the lesson. I learn a lot from watching.thanks for another great vid
Really like this perspective with the ground work.
I like the new view. And Phantom is GORGEOUS. ❤
agree!
Seeing your angles is super helpful to me. Thank you!
Very interesting perspective - I like that a lot! And heck yes, this guy needs some good period of work, and luckily the owner contacted it you, as this is typically the horse that will end up in a kill pen. No manners, no education, thats a complex package. Looking forward to see him making progress! Yet, stay safe Tim!
Oh, this horse HAS received an education; it was poor though. He learned that he can walk through anything he wants to, and he learned to bite during a temper tantrum. He learned that it's hunky dory to push into and through people. He learned lots of not so good things.
Definitely more videos with this camera. I feel as though you are teaching me. It keeps me very focused on what you are doing. And what the horse is doing
Excellent work Tim! Thank you! 😊
I really appreciate this video! More like it, please. Thank you Tim. 👍👍
I really like the wide-angle-lens. You can see how important timing, is and how he response to your body language.
Great video.
I love the camera angle. Please do more videos like this
You’re brave! A horse that unfocused scares me 😳
yes, more videos like this please. I very much enjoy your videos!
I love watching you do your thing and listen to the reasoning behind your strategies....it is very interesting.
Please be careful, Tim. That horse as beautiful as he is. Has the potential, to be much more dangerous than Sabre was.
I never got the impression that Sabre was dangerous in any deliberate way - just totally amazed at the big wide world out there. He was standing there gob-smacked at Buckingham Palace, like a first-time American tourist in London, and stepped out right in front of a big red London bus, having forgotten that we drive on the other side of the road ... I never saw any harm in him, or felt there was anything deliberate in his reactiveness; he was 'easy to read' for someone accustomed to reactive horses.
Phantom has learnt (probably unintentionally been _taught_ , unfortunately) how to express himself in a way that intimidates humans, and that humans don't necessarily merit any attention. I think he could easily be very dangerous in unskilled hands; I'm sure Tim will 'bring him round' but I think he'll need close attention in future if he's not to backslide ...
@Sine-gl9ly Hi 🙂 👋 I probably meant, Sabre was very reactive, and quick. And that there was more of a possibility, of the rider falling off and getting hurt. Because Sabre, was so sheltered in his former home. So he was much more afraid, and unpredictable movements, when being ridden and exposed to things at the beginning. Not a genuine mean streak in him, but still had to be handled with caution by someone experienced. As he is also a big horse 🙂
I like the camera angle, it makes it easier to understand. Thank you
I like this view and also like the free standing camera. I like to view your calm demeanor and watch you react to every situation, you don’t miss a thing!
If this horse hasn’t seriously injured someone, I’d be shocked. You have the experience to handle him but it’s scary to watch!
Please do more videos from this point of view. Seeing more of the nuances.
I really like this view! Both your first one, and the wide view as well!
Excellent lesson! What a change! Paying attention to the ear and why you stopped are very helpful reminders.
I really like the wide angle. It makes it easier to see the timing of the corrections
This was very interesting. He is a handful. Good luck.
This camera angle is perfect please make more videos like this so that it shows what it is really like 🎉❤
First time watching. Like how you explain that you are not simply chasing him around, but controlling his movement/ direction/ feet.
Brilliant vlog ,,thankyou so much for shareing the very first steps with this challenging boy ,,this truely shows what the real challenges can be ,, and how its vital to spot the nuances of the right behavior and reward it ..and i have to say ,its very lucky for them, you got him to train ,,,this is classic excample of a horse that multiple trainers fail with ,,and gets ruined ( with this boy certainly dangerous)
He certainly requires your level of skill .BRAVO ,,,i believe the vlogs you share are leading to a greater awareness of the importance of ground work ..and thats the path to connection and SAFETY, ❤🐎♥️🐎♥️🐎🌄 Thank you so much ...
i like the go pro for ground work, it’s excellent. would like the riding to stay seeing you. thank you for your lessons. i think you are an excellent trainer 👏🏻. i appreciate you passing on your knowledge and experience.. thank you 😊
Absolutely excellent point of view. Keep with this please.
Love this view, I can really hear and see what you are training on.
I like getting to see from this angle as well as your standard camera view. Both give us lots of info to process. Thank you!
The wide angle go pro is the bomb! Great to see what you are dealing with! His name sure does fit him. (You are getting your cardio workout with that guy too!)
I'm eager to see how he progresses, he's actually pretty darn' smart!
Outstanding Tim!! Learning so much watching you work
I'm enjoying the GoPro view! Love watching your starting technique.
Lovely viewpoint. I know it is a pain to edit, but a mix of what you see and the usual camera would be lovely to watch
I found the go pro extremely helpful especially when you demonstrated your body position (while lunging you talked about your eyes and torso)Looking forward to seeing his progress with you. I think hes going to be cool! Stay safe
The new camera angle is great!! Phantom sure is a gorgeous horse and i look forward to seeing his journey with you. Thanks again 🦘
If one or the other, I would prefer the standing camera so we can see your reactions. Ideal would be to put the body cam video in a corner of the screen of the online video. That way when we replay and watch we can see what you saw and how you reacted and hope we can improve our horsemanship skills. And since asking is cheap I would really enjoy the body cam when you're showing! :) Thanks for sharing and teaching us.
I really like this new angle. I feel like I am catching a ton more
LOVE this angle, It is very helpful especially with this horse not respecting space !
I love the other angle from afar too, but I do find this view helpful as I have to work with a horse that has a similar temperament when he is asked to do something from the ground.
The view takes a little getting used to. The obvious case of handling neglect is heartbreaking and I’m so glad he’s in your hands. He is at this point more dangerous than a wild horse. 40 years ago I had one like this and even after months of retraining he popped me with a hind foot when cleaning his feet. I was alone and I’m a female and had learned the Beery Method and laid him down in deep shavings. It took twice in a row to get his respect and I admit it was a barbarity that I never did again, but he was not harmed and it worked. Looking forward to watching your progress.
The Beery Method is an old one. Many people have never heard of it. I happen to live close to the little town where Professor Beery lived, Pleasant Hill, Ohio.
Wow! Hadn't heard anyone mention Prof Beery in decades. Got his training course books as a gift when I was in my 20s - 70s now.
My Daddy, born in 1918, wanted to find a kinder way of training than what was being done. He heard of Professor Beery and ordered his books. He trained very nice family horses that had more trust and relaxation than the poor horses broke with snubbing, bucking, and whipping. I have those books in the box they were delivered in. He passed in 1969. I believe he'd be excited at what's going on in training today. ❤
Like the camera angle!
I like both cameras. Seeing your body language really helps me though to see how you react to him (or others) in certain situations. Our dog trainer said the same thing about our Malinois and any other working breeds, that we could never physically tire him out, it had to be mentally. We had to do things to engage his brain and make him think.
You sir, are teaching me so much. I know nothing about horses, how to train and care for them. I was gifted a filly and I would like to start her out early with the training. You are teaching me what it means to respect a horse and it's power.
This is exactly how you work with a hot I worked Arabian first free lunge to just let them blow steam until they are ready to think and show signs of simmering down and connection. If you start in the lunge they will literally pull you dirt skiing. See how his mind is engaging on the lunge and he’s not running on stupid?
Kinda of like a kid with ADHD, let them settle themselves through movement.
Tim, I really like how much you worked with him on respecting your space, the stopping, the backing. I have had trouble leading my mustangs outside of a round pen. They seem to be doing fine in the pen, but the moment I step out and ask them to walk with me, they are stepping into my space or charging or breaking away from me. The backing and obstacles will probably help me to build more respect for when we're outside the pen. From what I seaw with this horse, it should help. You might want to have another camera filming and edit in a few regular moments to show us the whole picture now and then, like when you were walking and leading him. It was hard to know when he was in your space, except you told us. Most videos would be best the original way, but this one was a good one to try it the way you did. I also liked your focus on his ears. I will try that too. Thanks!
Why is not in a round pen?
I think the cat likes the kissy kiss sounds you make for the horse. Haha
I enjoyed the close up view. It made it easy to see his expressions/signs of what's going on. The stationery camera is good for other overall training views, but to his beginning of training close up was very interesting. May be because I'm a novice and haven't worked with horses for a very long time, and I miss it so much! Possibly I liked the close up view for that reason. Thank you!
Yes this view is so good. Its like virtual reality. Personally much easier to learn
Enjoyed this on person viewing while ground working as puts me right there with you, I don’t miss your ques.
You got your steps in on this day
20,000 steps a day is typical.
It’s interesting that he runs over and through objects, rather than going around them.
Its great to see it from your perspective! All of the sudden what you're saying makes a lot more sense. Seeing the horses gaze, ears and body position towards you shows exactly the respect and paying attention you're talking about (or the lack of it) . It doesn't work so well when the horse is out of sight. To be honest - i would really like to see both views, because on the from the side i can tell your movement and body language during these interactions… one day try to put the camera on the horse’s head - we’d get every point of view 😀 just kidding…
I will leave all the Arabian horses to others. Give me a sensible Quarter Horse any day. Tim you be careful that horse is crazy. Like the new angle too
Really most Arabians are not highly strung. I have bred many in my lifetime, from fine Egyptian desert bred and sturdy polish bloodlines, for the racetrack and just for stable family riding horses, they are beautiful and intelligent. Things only go wrong if mis handled early by humans. Most have stamina and endurance and just need affection and a slow calm manner towards them. They mature physically later, and their bones harden at about 4 years old, if worked too hard before this on hard ground they can throw splints. If well handled as foals, backed at 2 yrs and turned away to mature until Four yrs, they generally make fabulous partners. The problem is people love to watch them show their extended gait and deliberately over excite and chase them about, this is wrong. They are super intelligent and need to understand they can rely on and trust you. Then they can relax and enjoy their ridden work.
Same, friend. TWH for me.
Interesting point of view! I think I prefer to see both you and the horse at once, but what I found really interesting with this is your body posture when you're just following, not driving. I haven't been really clear about how to make a difference between the two and now I see that I "face" the horse the same regardless of my intention. Can I ask where your face is pointing? And what are your eyes on? Adding I have to say I'm happy to see this horse, I think it will help me a lot with one of mine so I'm hoping to see more of him. Thank you for posting all this for us!
Camera view is great, thank you this video! Just of curiosity, do you like working with a horse in this situation in a round pen?
I have done this in a round pen and I have one and can go there if I need to. In general it's easy to have the round pen as a crutch and think your training is better than it is and can be hard to get out of it. In this pen I don't have that problem.
I like the standard view so I can see how you do things.
What a bugger! My mare does that sometimes. But she's 27 and just being goofy. I've literally had her since conception.
Love this pov! What a gorgeous horse
Yes I like this perspective. It’s like I’m standing with you in this training.
thankyou enjoyed this, the camera really picked up your position and distance with the horse 👍
The normal lens view I found too restrictive and bouncy, but I really liked the wide angle portion.
I enjoyed the angle of the gopro for a short time - but i learn so much from watching you and how you react and train the horse. I feel im missing half of the training process. I will watch no matter how you film. My vote is for Melinda being the camera llady. Thanks for the video. Tabor City, NC
i like this as an additional camera angle. Honestly, I was worried about your safety because your attention being split between the the camera and a dangerous horse. What we as observers in all this is we can't see as much of you and your actions in the session.
What a gorgeous Arabian! Beautiful horse.❤
Love the vantage point!!! Like we are there, too...makes it more educational, I feel. I also like videos of people explaining what they are doing with their reins from the saddle view.
Greavideo, thank you for showing the starting point of a new horse.
Much better view on the wide setting.
I love this angle. Very informative perspective to use sometimes.
The GoPro angle puts you right in the action. Wow! I would prefer both angles but understand the editing could get time consuming. Thanks for trying out new options!
I like seeing some of it from this angle but maybe not all it’s very good for us who are actually working horses
Like the camera angle. I predict rapid forward progress once he knows the rules and locks in on you as the leader to be respected. I think he’s showing signs of being pretty smart… which can be a hazard for a novice handler but is an asset in my book.
I REALLY like this GoPro pov! For this type of training. You could get the head mount as well so that when you turn your head we can see everything you do. I’ve watched hunting/jumping and polo matches where the riders wore head mounted ones. Is exciting! It’s variety to add to the standing camera ones as well. I think it might be cool to see some on the horse cuz I can’t always see the cues like legs or reins from the ground. You’ll figure it out like you always do 🙌
I really like this view for ground work. Thank you for posting these videos.
When I was nine, I was given a six month old English Shepherd named Belle. Like every other 6 month untrained herding dog she was like this. She wouldn't even come for hamburger. Ornery as. Only reliable on leash. This horse reminds me of her. I am confident that you are a far better trainer than I was or ever shall be. Have you tried the Wayfarer camera set in glasses? They are only good for short takes, but the perspective is great as is the audio.
I like this camera for this type of work.
The body camera you are using. Really gets across to the viewer what is really going on. It shows how much knowledge you have with horses. As well as how physically demanding it is. I KNOW I would NOT fair well if I attempted this! 😆🤕