A genius Mcenroe plus 3 very good doubles players. I went to a Miles Davis concert at Wembley in the 80s, we arrived early and a couple leaving the Wembley tennis next door gave us their tickets. We went in and watched the last 2 sets of Mcenroe and Fleming doubles match before the concert. Mcenroe literally didn't miss a thing for 2 sets - amazing.
The way tennis should be as it was invented, no boring robotic power serves, no giant rackets, no artificial strings, no smacking each other after every point, no screaming after a win, respectful. And due to the slower pace, there was more intrigue, strategy, cleaner shot making. Tennis SUCKS today.
They hit just as hard back then but it was solid and smarter. Note how they kept the ball low to the opponent at the net and the smart use of the lob. You look at this match then then watch Djokovic and gang, what you see is how much more professional past players were.
@@emin7540 The 1980's was the golden era. It's now naive spoiled millennials thinking they know how to play when in fact its the rackets and strings that are doing all the work for them. In regards to speed, it was slower then but that's the way it should be, power doesn't mean better, more interesting, more exciting, more athletic, it's actually quite the opposite, the numbers of shots today is maybe two or three, baseline rally, power serve, in the 80's there were a dozen different shots in a given game.
@@TimTheMusicMan Couldn't agree more. It's actually sad how much better players were back in the day. Each time I see a modern player (attempt to) volley, I feel embarrassed on their behalf. They play as if the 1960s, 70s or 80s never happened. It's laughable.
@@fundhund62 exactly. You would not believe how many modern players don’t even understand or realize what you said. They have no idea how to really play the game. My opinion many of them can’t really play the real game. They use the technology to play for them from the baseline. I also know for a fact that many pros today would not even be on the tour if they had to play 80’s style. This doesn’t occur in other sports.
@@TimTheMusicMan Yeah. I don't get the mindset, though. Why would someone be a tennis professional and not even attempt to become a complete player? If you don't have the natural touch, why not practice your net game until you become at least a decent volleyer? Today's one-dimensional baseline only game is a pain to watch, but I don't actually imagine it being much fun to play, either. Why not add a little variety and spice it up for everybody involved? 🤔
Totally agree with you; his ability to play at the highest level in singles and doubles, at the same time, should rank him as the one of the all-time greats. He also won a GS playing mixed doubles as well.
@@user-jv9qz2bu1r and don’t forget the winning fist pumps, shrieks, primal screams, and slumping over in tears after the big loss. A generation of brats.
@@us-Bahn I am glad I am not the only one annoyed by the unsportsmanlike antics - the next target of my wrath are the new group of announcers, mostly from the UK, who specialize in Hyperbole: "that was unbelievable ... het out of here ... just genius ... master class shot..." etc and all the other inane comments meant to pass for wit
That's because players today hardly go to the net because the courts are slower now. Running down shots are easier now, so it would be harder to volley for winners.
Love watching this! Clean, precise playing and not all this glad handing after every point. Just getting on with it. Mac was such a great doubles player and he and Fleming made a great team.
I remember as a kid seeing Peter Fleming downstairs in the Checkerdome in St. Louis before his match. I was scared to talk to him. He had a Holiday Inn towel tucked into his shorts. So cool
Many tennis coaches say you should not look back at your partner during a point but Mcenroe does it constantly to see how and where Fleming is hitting the ball and Mac is the greatest doubles player of all time.
1979 is my favorite McEnroe year. Knee bend on server not too deep so you can really see the hip/shoulder axial tension. The heft of the Wilson Kramer gave his strokes a controlled power. He seems to grip the ball
@@davidphelan5607 I tend to agree. He got sloppier over time, especially with graphite in his hands. He tended to rely on touch more than control, which made for some exciting tennis ('84), but didn't serve him well in the long run.
McEnroe and Stan Smith were both World #1s, and Peter Fleming was ranked as high as #7 in the world. Doubles was great when the best players in the world actually played doubles.
John McEnroe and Peter Fleming: McEnroe was the doubles world No.1 for a record 270 weeks, winning 57 of his 71 titles with fellow American Pete ‘Flembo’ Fleming.
Interesting how doubles partners didn't slap hands the way they do after each point today. I didn't notice any complicated hand signals to the server either.
the main reason why i regard john better than all 3 goats...he is a doubles prodigy even up to this time...i dont believe there is anyone among the crop of young players in the top 10 who can replicate what he did....（dominate singles and doubles in tennis）...
C' est en faisant les tournois de double que Mc Enroe s'entrainait. C'est la raison pour laquelle il n' avait pas de coach. Je pense qu'il n' a jamais aussi bien joué qu'avec la "wilson pro staf".
It's a shame the financial side of current tennis keeps the top singles players out of doubles except for team events. Having said that, current singles and doubles specialists do not have skill sets as similar as in the past because serve and volley is no longer emphasized. Oh well.
The quality is fantastic. Need more classic McEnroe footage remastered like they do to films these days. I would buy the entire Blu Ray collection.
A genius Mcenroe plus 3 very good doubles players. I went to a Miles Davis concert at Wembley in the 80s, we arrived early and a couple leaving the Wembley tennis next door gave us their tickets. We went in and watched the last 2 sets of Mcenroe and Fleming doubles match before the concert. Mcenroe literally didn't miss a thing for 2 sets - amazing.
Thanks for posting this. It would be nice to see the complete match though. These were two of the best doubles teams of all time.
John McEnroe was a smooth Tennis Player with a deft of touch beyond belief.
talented but still a punk
no high-fiving or racket slapping between points - no outrageous celebration at end !! nice
Agreed. As well as no annoying fist pumps and looking at their box for daddy's (or coaches) approval. Much more enjoyable then.
@@Jdav8899 Right - those annoying glances or long looks to their box - Kyrgios and Djokovic must be the biggest offenders.
@@user-jv9qz2bu1r well now they can go right over and have a big long advice/counselling session, and some do! Sad.
@@Jdav8899 Oh and no long toilet stops.
The way tennis should be as it was invented, no boring robotic power serves, no giant rackets, no artificial strings, no smacking each other after every point, no screaming after a win, respectful. And due to the slower pace, there was more intrigue, strategy, cleaner shot making. Tennis SUCKS today.
They hit just as hard back then but it was solid and smarter. Note how they kept the ball low to the opponent at the net and the smart use of the lob. You look at this match then then watch Djokovic and gang, what you see is how much more professional past players were.
@@emin7540 The 1980's was the golden era. It's now naive spoiled millennials thinking they know how to play when in fact its the rackets and strings that are doing all the work for them. In regards to speed, it was slower then but that's the way it should be, power doesn't mean better, more interesting, more exciting, more athletic, it's actually quite the opposite, the numbers of shots today is maybe two or three, baseline rally, power serve, in the 80's there were a dozen different shots in a given game.
@@TimTheMusicMan Couldn't agree more. It's actually sad how much better players were back in the day.
Each time I see a modern player (attempt to) volley, I feel embarrassed on their behalf.
They play as if the 1960s, 70s or 80s never happened.
It's laughable.
@@fundhund62 exactly. You would not believe how many modern players don’t even understand or realize what you said. They have no idea how to really play the game. My opinion many of them can’t really play the real game. They use the technology to play for them from the baseline. I also know for a fact that many pros today would not even be on the tour if they had to play 80’s style. This doesn’t occur in other sports.
@@TimTheMusicMan Yeah. I don't get the mindset, though. Why would someone be a tennis professional and not even attempt to become a complete player?
If you don't have the natural touch, why not practice your net game until you become at least a decent volleyer?
Today's one-dimensional baseline only game is a pain to watch, but I don't actually imagine it being much fun to play, either. Why not add a little variety and spice it up for everybody involved? 🤔
Amazing footage! Mac's doubles career with the singles puts him as one of the greatest of all time! 💪
Totally agree with you; his ability to play at the highest level in singles and doubles, at the same time, should rank him as the one of the all-time greats. He also won a GS playing mixed doubles as well.
@@hangarby1077' with Mary Carrillo.
76-76-1 I think.
Incredible. You don't see these older films so clearly. This was a great job by the USTA.
USTA had nothing to do with it. My video. Thank me.
@@Coolrobb But your channel has zero content.
The days when players were not obsessed with touching each other after every point.
makes doubles today unwatchable
Exactly. Todays constant high5ing is completely moronic
@@us-Bahn high 5, racket tap, butt slap, every point, won or lost point and it has carried to the amateur level, our level... a Turn Off
@@user-jv9qz2bu1r and don’t forget the winning fist pumps, shrieks, primal screams, and slumping over in tears after the big loss. A generation of brats.
@@us-Bahn I am glad I am not the only one annoyed by the unsportsmanlike antics - the next target of my wrath are the new group of announcers, mostly from the UK, who specialize in Hyperbole: "that was unbelievable ... het out of here ... just genius ... master class shot..." etc and all the other inane comments meant to pass for wit
Pls upload the rematch as well ( 1980 final ), thx for this!
C'est agréable de voir aussi des matchs de double avec des joueurs talentueux et légendaire .
Si seulement le Tennis etait tres Populace en Afrique.
Doubles was so much fun to watch back then. Great stuff, even from an aging team of Smith/Lutz.
Players back then were not afflicted with "Fistitus" which is quite prevalent today....
This generation played better volleys wirh wooden rackets than the players today😂it is a shame.
That's because players today hardly go to the net because the courts are slower now. Running down shots are easier now, so it would be harder to volley for winners.
Love watching this! Clean, precise playing and not all this glad handing after every point. Just getting on with it. Mac was such a great doubles player and he and Fleming made a great team.
Full match plz with change overs and award ceremony
No taping each others hands after every point.
a full stadium for doubles, nice
Prime John McEnroe playing a doubles match was tennis in its most beautiful and skilful form, he was unbelievable
Back when tennis was a beautiful sport to watch.
McEnroe is the greatest second court doubles player of all time!
Awesome, great job!
I remember as a kid seeing Peter Fleming downstairs in the Checkerdome in St. Louis before his match. I was scared to talk to him. He had a Holiday Inn towel tucked into his shorts. So cool
Noticeably difference is no high five, no fist bump 😀
Mac may be the best doubles player ever
Best volleys in the history of the game.
NO Question ! 👋👋
Many tennis coaches say you should not look back at your partner during a point but Mcenroe does it constantly to see how and where Fleming is hitting the ball and Mac is the greatest doubles player of all time.
Correct. One of many things I learned from Mac.
This is when John was smooth.
1979 is my favorite McEnroe year. Knee bend on server not too deep so you can really see the hip/shoulder axial tension. The heft of the Wilson Kramer gave his strokes a controlled power. He seems to grip the ball
@@davidphelan5607 I tend to agree. He got sloppier over time, especially with graphite in his hands. He tended to rely on touch more than control, which made for some exciting tennis ('84), but didn't serve him well in the long run.
The greatest male doubles player of all time, coming into full bloom, and it ain't Bob Lutz. A clue he's got curly red hair
Beautiful quality video , McEnroe is an artist at the net and these racquets are what 68 sq. in.?
McEnroe and Stan Smith were both World #1s, and Peter Fleming was ranked as high as #7 in the world. Doubles was great when the best players in the world actually played doubles.
I was about to enter my junior year in high school. Minus the taunting I took from classmates, take me back in time. Please.
Lutz and Smith, it's like Kibbles and Bits...but different.
John McEnroe and Peter Fleming: McEnroe was the doubles world No.1 for a record 270 weeks, winning 57 of his 71 titles with fellow American Pete ‘Flembo’ Fleming.
78 doubles titles
@@asphaltcowboy7567 Read my comment carefully, the tennis doubles couple John Mcenroe and Peter Fleming won 57 doubles titles.
The Smith Lutz Doubles team is one of the best ever in the history of Mens Professional Tennis.
Strange to see no high five or encouraging words between the pairs
not one two-handed backhand either
A top 5 doubles team of all time..
I noticed that, in those days, there were no constant (and annoying) handshakes between partners after every freaking point. And it was great...
Great tennis. Used to be my favorite. Now, nothing, never.
2:40 never seen a smash carry to the moon before. cool.
You’d never know Lutz & Smith were one of the best doubles teams by watching this. They look sedated;)
That one guy looks just like the guy on those addidas shoes.
iconic adidas Stan Smith pure white tennis shoes
Well spotted
McEnroe's power is evident here
Interesting how doubles partners didn't slap hands the way they do after each point today. I didn't notice any complicated hand signals to the server either.
Fleming looks like Johnny Lawrence
Mr. Bob Lutz of St. John Vianney/ Daniel Murphy High School.
the main reason why i regard john better than all 3 goats...he is a doubles prodigy even up to this time...i dont believe there is anyone among the crop of young players in the top 10 who can replicate what he did....（dominate singles and doubles in tennis）...
Vic Braden GOAT,,, tennis today is synthetic one dimensional Old school class. Doubles today is fist points and talking all the time
Seem like usual day for them after match point wins.
The best doubles team ever ? Anyone playing with John McEnroe.
Is tennis more accessible in the past? Right now I feel like you need superhuman reflexes even in the club level.
Old school Fischer racquet used by Stan Smith. But new tech for the day.
Is that a graphite?
Wow, I never even knew McEnroe was a big doubles contender
He was #1 in singles and doubles at the same time. It was said that the best doubles team in the world was McEnroe and anyone
C' est en faisant les tournois de double que Mc Enroe s'entrainait.
C'est la raison pour laquelle il n' avait pas de coach.
Je pense qu'il n' a jamais aussi bien joué qu'avec la "wilson pro staf".
It's a shame the financial side of current tennis keeps the top singles players out of doubles except for team events. Having said that, current singles and doubles specialists do not have skill sets as similar as in the past because serve and volley is no longer emphasized. Oh well.
Lutz and smith were a dominating doubles team but Mac and Fleming were better
Not one two-handed backhand
Amazing what having some young wheels can do. Smith and Lutz were on the downside of their careers by then.
And no fist pumping 😠