Hawk fan here but I want to point out that I saw more "old school Nebraska" toughness out of this team than I have in 10 + years. By toughness I mean, tackling with authority, offensive lineman with attitude. You guys will be fine under Rhule. Once the pieces get filled in, this team will compete big time. Again, I saw a more physical Nebraska team than I have in years.
The fact that Jeff Sims was Nebraska’s opening day starter says a lot about this coaching staff’s ability to evaluate QB talent and game readiness and it’s not good. The QB position has been poorly managed all season.
I disagree. I think everyone can have a swing-and-a-miss from time to time and still be excellent. I also believe that Sims is extremely athletic and the staff's interest in him was warranted. They probably thought they could coach him up (you know, like any other player...). Sims really was baaaad this season but I believe the coaching staff was right to believe in their players and right to believe he's not irredeemable. We've since learned he probably isn't though. It's easy to suffer from hindsight bias, too.
@@chrisgosselin92 wrong....Sims was a turnover machine at Georgia Tech. Nothing changed with him getting here. This was a huge miss by Rhule and staff.
@@BigHurt1776reborni agree, but i see why the temptation for getting him was there. I can see why a coach would think if i can get Sims to limit his turnovers, he has all the physical tools to be a great QB. Still dont think he should’ve been handed the keys to the O and got rid of Thompson. Shouldve been treated more as a “project”
@@chrisgosselin92I knew chasing Casey Thompson out of town was wrong from the very start. He was the best QB Nebraska has had in a while. He was more than adequate to be the starter again.
I want to see what our defense does next year playing what should be much better offensive competition. I mean who is the last "good" offensive team we played? Michigan? Seems like Michigan was the ONE good team we played all year, and that makes me pump the brakes just a little on just how good this defense is. I am cautiously optimistic.
It's a good defense, but we played a ton of terrible offenses so our stats look amazing. On the flip side, the offense put the defense in so many bad situations. Regardless, keeping Tony White has to be the highest priority. If he goes, we are going to be like the Scott Frost years minus an offense putting up decent numbers.
@@BigHurt1776reborn Oh I agree. We were lucky to win all 3 of those games in Oct Illinois, NW and Purdue considering the turnovers. And we won them because the defense held after the mistakes by the offense. Good points.
I think not being content with great winning records and it seemed like each time you changed coaches it got worse. My view of things from Iowa side of border. I am not a Nebraska fan but always for you when you play Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State.
@@richardnelson3227 the Mike Riley hire was so far out of left field that to this day I still can't wrap my mind around it. I remember when I heard the news I had to look him up because I had no idea who the fuck he was. To say that decision set the program back at least a decade is an understatement. The thing is I think most people felt we'd reached our ceiling with Pelini and were fine with letting him go. He would get blown out consistently in nationally televised games and make an ass of himself on the sideline. But to replace him with a middling nice guy from a weaker conference that most nebraska fans had never heard of was bizarre.
@nhynek they wanted someone "nice ", like osborne,,,, but Tom had an edge the public didn't see often, I doubt riley had.....bringing in frost was the death nell,, few saw what he really was
I love listening to you guys. Bahe I've listened to since the nick bahe show, keep up the good work man! Bo you're a legend I grew up watching you and Barrett, it's awesome hearing your thoughts! I'm curious about the coaching situation. What do you think about hiring a QB coach that can help with the translate what satterfield and rhule are trying to translate and communicate during the game. I think chubba has a lot of upside if that's the route you take and if you're not going to utilize haarberg at qb I think you gotta try him at different positions like they did against Minnesota.
When we have a HC who is wanting to run a FAKE FG on a 60-yard FG and then burns a timeout because the kicker isn't o the field, we need more than a damn new OC.
it is COACHING! Rhule has made progress in some areas, no doubt, but the coaching mistakes made this year should not be made by a head coach. The QB issues are a direct reflection on the coaches.. Sims was HIS QB! He said as much. That was a HUGE coaching blunder.
I agree with you guys about the lack of confidence to win in the team especially QBS. But I also think Rhule never had it either! His decisions were often trying not to lose. I thought I could see it in his eyes.
The stumble flip by the qb to avoid the safety is a microcosm of Iowa vs Nebraska football. Iowa gets the ball to the rb who avoids the safety. If that's Purdy flipping the ball it hits Grant in the face, bounces 3 yards away from him and Iowa recovers for a TD. It's just the difference between the programs right now.
Westercamp once said....I KNEW the pass was coming to me. i KNEW that I would make the catch. I KNEW I would make the first down. So I was actually wondering what the NEXT play was going to be. He was that confident.
Chubba was trying to flick/shovel it over to Johnson, the RB who was on his right and just a few yards away. Wasn't a horrible idea and would have worked but Castro diagnosed that and made a great play and knocked it loose a split second before Chubba was able to get rid of it. It was a fumble. Had Chubba released it a split second earlier it would have been a forward pass. Nick didn't seem to know what Chubba was doing on that play. Hope you guys bring this pod back another year. Rhule has to be better in game/clock managment and he has to get his OC to run an offense that shines on what his players can do just like our DC did this season. Or this won't work.
Like Rhule, but QB pick and November mess is a huge concern. He needs to step up and make progress in December. Find more talent, add QB coach, improve 4th qtr performance in 2024.
What history does Rhule truly have at developing a QB? He said at the start of the season he thought that Sims was NFL caliber. Go check out what he did with the QB room at the Panthers and tell me if you think he knows WTF what an NFL caliber quarterback looks like.
In crunch time you need players to make plays. We don't have those players currently. The offense was primarily freshmen/sophmores this year with incredibly poor QB play and a D1 worst in turnovers. Get two new QBs, move HH to Hback or TE and we'll be 9-3 or 8-4 in 2024. Trust the process. GBR!
the spot challenge was freaking Inexcusable. WTH were you thinking Coach. Terrible clock management. Poor playing and lack of player development. Wow this is same stuff over and over again with no relief in sight.
It's not Fall in America unless you're hitting refresh on your streaming Nebraska gamecast, screaming FVVVVVVCK repeatedly, and hurling your phone against the nearest brick wall.
Almost every team in Div 1 Tackle Football runs the exact same offense. This offense works great if you have a Unicorn healthy QB. Have you ever heard of Colin Klein or Cardale Jones or Scott Frost? Guys with average arms who can get 3 yards anytime they want 3 yards? That is the formula. Not some 5'11" Baker Mayfield or Rattler. Ditch this offense. Get the biggest QB, RB, FB, OL you can and play Husker Football
Flashback: Mike Riley started 2016 with a 7-0 record. Scored 50+ points a few times. Had a QB (Armstrong) who was not exactly what the OC wanted for his Wile E Coyote Super-Genius Offense. The offense these clowns are trying to run is 100% dependent on getting a Unicorn QB who miraculously stays healthy! Not possible. Not possible. If Washington's QB gets dinged up, they are 4-8.
They don't need a playbook. They need a brochure of 10-15 things they do over and over until they can run them against anyone. That's how you make an identity. Probably in every case, this is about a staff trying to justify their salaries by how big the playback is.
They don't need a playbook. They need a brochure of 10-15 things they do over and over until they can run them against anyone. That's how you make an identity. Probably in every case, this is about a staff trying to justify their salaries by how big the playbook is.
Nebraska is so horrible. The only D1 team to not make a bowl since 2016? There are about 1000 bowl games. And the amount of money they have spent is insane. Frost walked about with 50 million in his account and literally accomplished less than nothing. The funniest part is NU fired Solich after a 10 win season. If Nebraska won 6 games now they would label the coach the greatest of all time.
Guys, the Kansas analogy was not a good one. There is zero comparison between the 2. Kansas has been consistently relevant over the last 2 decades. Nebraska football has not been relevant in almost 2 decades. Recruits going to college now, have never in their entire life seen a nationally relevant Nebraska football team.. you were superior in an inferior conference. As most neb fans still do, you all thought the success in the 90s playing in the B12 somehow meant you were gonna go to the B10 and automatically have a seat along side Ohio St. funny thing is 99.9% of the college football world was laughing at nebraska as we all knew they had no clue what they just signed up for. Lol, and then you fire the one and only coach who was successful and competitive. The fans, the big money boosters, are probably more to blame for the dumpster fire that is nebraska, more so than any coach or player. And the admins who caved to the pressure and fired bo shoulder a lot of the blame also. This weird fairy tale and pipe dream world neb fans live in thinking they will be and should be playing for nattys is comical. It’s funny because the only people in the country who don’t cry laughing at the absurdity of thinking that’s even obtainable are the irrational and incompetent section of the neb fan base.
I think if you ask most nebraska fans now they'd still be OK with firing Pelini when they did. He would get blown out consistently during big games (particularly nationally televised ones) and would make such an ass of himself on the sideline to the point where he was affecting the game with unsportsmanlike penalties. He was starting to become an embarrassment. Plus I think he had a real disdain for the fans and the program administration in general. Where Nebraska really fucked up was trading in a 9 win coach for a nice guy nobody from a weaker conference that had very little presence on the national stage. I mean if you're serious about competing with the big dogs why would you not shell out the cash and get a name? The Frost era, however, was an unmitigated disaster that I don't think anyone could have predicted. It's just been a string of bad decisions and bad luck. I don't think any rational husker fan thinks they should be in the hunt for a natty every year. But there's no reason, given the resources and devoted fan base, that they can't be on the same par as wisconsin and Iowa and occasionally even Penn st.
Did you just say kansas has been more relevant than nebraska the past 2 decades? Lol what? Kansas has just been ok for the past 2 seasons other than that they have been dogshit. In the past 2 dacades nebraska has been to 5 conference championship games and has had 4-10 win seasons. Fuck I hate stupid people!
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Hawk fan here but I want to point out that I saw more "old school Nebraska" toughness out of this team than I have in 10 + years. By toughness I mean, tackling with authority, offensive lineman with attitude. You guys will be fine under Rhule. Once the pieces get filled in, this team will compete big time. Again, I saw a more physical Nebraska team than I have in years.
Great job on all of the commentary this year gentlemen. Really enjoyed listening to the show. Looking forward to the spring game. GBR!
The fact that Jeff Sims was Nebraska’s opening day starter says a lot about this coaching staff’s ability to evaluate QB talent and game readiness and it’s not good. The QB position has been poorly managed all season.
I disagree. I think everyone can have a swing-and-a-miss from time to time and still be excellent. I also believe that Sims is extremely athletic and the staff's interest in him was warranted. They probably thought they could coach him up (you know, like any other player...).
Sims really was baaaad this season but I believe the coaching staff was right to believe in their players and right to believe he's not irredeemable. We've since learned he probably isn't though. It's easy to suffer from hindsight bias, too.
@@chrisgosselin92 wrong....Sims was a turnover machine at Georgia Tech. Nothing changed with him getting here. This was a huge miss by Rhule and staff.
@@BigHurt1776reborni agree, but i see why the temptation for getting him was there. I can see why a coach would think if i can get Sims to limit his turnovers, he has all the physical tools to be a great QB. Still dont think he should’ve been handed the keys to the O and got rid of Thompson. Shouldve been treated more as a “project”
@@chrisgosselin92I knew chasing Casey Thompson out of town was wrong from the very start. He was the best QB Nebraska has had in a while. He was more than adequate to be the starter again.
I want to see what our defense does next year playing what should be much better offensive competition. I mean who is the last "good" offensive team we played? Michigan? Seems like Michigan was the ONE good team we played all year, and that makes me pump the brakes just a little on just how good this defense is. I am cautiously optimistic.
It's a good defense, but we played a ton of terrible offenses so our stats look amazing. On the flip side, the offense put the defense in so many bad situations. Regardless, keeping Tony White has to be the highest priority. If he goes, we are going to be like the Scott Frost years minus an offense putting up decent numbers.
@@BigHurt1776reborn Oh I agree. We were lucky to win all 3 of those games in Oct Illinois, NW and Purdue considering the turnovers. And we won them because the defense held after the mistakes by the offense. Good points.
Honest takes by two smart and knowledgeable guys.
“Give me the rock” guy - Rex Burkhead. Guy would beat teams in the fourth quarter on his own
The detriment to the program that the lack of bowl practices have had over the past 7 years cannot be overstated.
I think not being content with great winning records and it seemed like each time you changed coaches it got worse. My view of things from Iowa side of border. I am not a Nebraska fan but always for you when you play Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State.
@@richardnelson3227 the Mike Riley hire was so far out of left field that to this day I still can't wrap my mind around it. I remember when I heard the news I had to look him up because I had no idea who the fuck he was. To say that decision set the program back at least a decade is an understatement. The thing is I think most people felt we'd reached our ceiling with Pelini and were fine with letting him go. He would get blown out consistently in nationally televised games and make an ass of himself on the sideline. But to replace him with a middling nice guy from a weaker conference that most nebraska fans had never heard of was bizarre.
@nhynek they wanted someone "nice ", like osborne,,,, but Tom had an edge the public didn't see often, I doubt riley had.....bringing in frost was the death nell,, few saw what he really was
I love listening to you guys. Bahe I've listened to since the nick bahe show, keep up the good work man! Bo you're a legend I grew up watching you and Barrett, it's awesome hearing your thoughts! I'm curious about the coaching situation. What do you think about hiring a QB coach that can help with the translate what satterfield and rhule are trying to translate and communicate during the game. I think chubba has a lot of upside if that's the route you take and if you're not going to utilize haarberg at qb I think you gotta try him at different positions like they did against Minnesota.
The solution for the Corn’s offense woes is to hire Dirk Chatelain as offensive coordinator.
When we have a HC who is wanting to run a FAKE FG on a 60-yard FG and then burns a timeout because the kicker isn't o the field, we need more than a damn new OC.
it is COACHING! Rhule has made progress in some areas, no doubt, but the coaching mistakes made this year should not be made by a head coach. The QB issues are a direct reflection on the coaches.. Sims was HIS QB! He said as much. That was a HUGE coaching blunder.
I agree with you guys about the lack of confidence to win in the team especially QBS. But I also think Rhule never had it either! His decisions were often trying not to lose. I thought I could see it in his eyes.
"IT'S come to huskers MAY NEVER GET BACK TO GLORY DAYS"
Glory Days? HA! Let's see if we can get to a bowl by 2030!
My opinion of why we can’t overcome the win issue is true leadership from our QB. You need that leadership to get the team over the edge!!
The stumble flip by the qb to avoid the safety is a microcosm of Iowa vs Nebraska football. Iowa gets the ball to the rb who avoids the safety. If that's Purdy flipping the ball it hits Grant in the face, bounces 3 yards away from him and Iowa recovers for a TD. It's just the difference between the programs right now.
We need a Creighton-Nebraska bb preview! Question: Why don’t Baylor or Traudt put it on the floor and drive to the rack?
Westercamp once said....I KNEW the pass was coming to me. i KNEW that I would make the catch. I KNEW I would make the first down. So I was actually wondering what the NEXT play was going to be. He was that confident.
Chubba was trying to flick/shovel it over to Johnson, the RB who was on his right and just a few yards away. Wasn't a horrible idea and would have worked but Castro diagnosed that and made a great play and knocked it loose a split second before Chubba was able to get rid of it. It was a fumble. Had Chubba released it a split second earlier it would have been a forward pass. Nick didn't seem to know what Chubba was doing on that play. Hope you guys bring this pod back another year.
Rhule has to be better in game/clock managment and he has to get his OC to run an offense that shines on what his players can do just like our DC did this season. Or this won't work.
Face it. Brian Frenetz is a coaching genius.
We are winning 50/50 games like 10 percent of the time since like FOREVER now!
Like Rhule, but QB pick and November mess is a huge concern. He needs to step up and make progress in December. Find more talent, add QB coach, improve 4th qtr performance in 2024.
What history does Rhule truly have at developing a QB? He said at the start of the season he thought that Sims was NFL caliber. Go check out what he did with the QB room at the Panthers and tell me if you think he knows WTF what an NFL caliber quarterback looks like.
What he meant by "NFL" was "Now Fumbles Lots.". We all just took it...the other way 😊.
In crunch time you need players to make plays. We don't have those players currently. The offense was primarily freshmen/sophmores this year with incredibly poor QB play and a D1 worst in turnovers. Get two new QBs, move HH to Hback or TE and we'll be 9-3 or 8-4 in 2024. Trust the process. GBR!
the spot challenge was freaking Inexcusable. WTH were you thinking Coach. Terrible clock management. Poor playing and lack of player development. Wow this is same stuff over and over again with no relief in sight.
It's not Fall in America unless you're hitting refresh on your streaming Nebraska gamecast, screaming FVVVVVVCK repeatedly, and hurling your phone against the nearest brick wall.
Almost every team in Div 1 Tackle Football runs the exact same offense. This offense works great if you have a Unicorn healthy QB. Have you ever heard of Colin Klein or Cardale Jones or Scott Frost? Guys with average arms who can get 3 yards anytime they want 3 yards? That is the formula. Not some 5'11" Baker Mayfield or Rattler. Ditch this offense. Get the biggest QB, RB, FB, OL you can and play Husker Football
No need to get new material yearly! You 2 ARE the material and GET Husker fans! Stay classy😅! WisconsinRon!
Flashback: Mike Riley started 2016 with a 7-0 record. Scored 50+ points a few times. Had a QB (Armstrong) who was not exactly what the OC wanted for his Wile E Coyote Super-Genius Offense.
The offense these clowns are trying to run is 100% dependent on getting a Unicorn QB who miraculously stays healthy! Not possible. Not possible. If Washington's QB gets dinged up, they are 4-8.
They don't need a playbook. They need a brochure of 10-15 things they do over and over until they can run them against anyone. That's how you make an identity.
Probably in every case, this is about a staff trying to justify their salaries by how big the playback is.
They don't need a playbook. They need a brochure of 10-15 things they do over and over until they can run them against anyone. That's how you make an identity.
Probably in every case, this is about a staff trying to justify their salaries by how big the playbook is.
And Turner Gill. He wanted the ball.
Rhule was telling Chubby while pointing at Lloyd on that play. If you really watched you would see Lloyd breaking wide open.
Have you ever thought that in the shotgun there are 2-3x false starts because the QB is wayyyyy back there?
This season we got kicked in the nuts yeah the balls yeah
Plug later. Get to it
Another football-less December in Nebraska. Sad.
Better first year than frosty
Where was this criticism with Frost?
I don't think Bahe is a big fan of Rhule's to be honest, and he has the right to think what he wants...
Nebraska has lost 30 one score games in 5 years. Iowa has won 30 one score games in five years
would it be better if these qb's didn't get along? maybe they need to be like 'fu 2 other dudes, this is my job'and then go out and play like it
Why didn’t the refs fix the clock?
Nebraska is so horrible. The only D1 team to not make a bowl since 2016? There are about 1000 bowl games. And the amount of money they have spent is insane. Frost walked about with 50 million in his account and literally accomplished less than nothing. The funniest part is NU fired Solich after a 10 win season. If Nebraska won 6 games now they would label the coach the greatest of all time.
Solich was fired with nine wins. Bo got the win in the bowl game. Still a big mistake.
hof can't block for sh:+
imagine if iowa had a offense that was 70th in the country instead of 130th lol this woulda been a 35-7 beatdown lol
It should have been 23-7 at the half but Kaleb Brown dropped an easy td in the end zone and the two blocked field goals.
Two risky Kirk won’t allow it.
Same could be said of Nebraska numb nuts
this is already looking like a bad hire.
The worst power five team
The problem with Nebraska is that the fan base, who craves instant gratification, wants to coach the team instead of the hired coach.
Guys, the Kansas analogy was not a good one. There is zero comparison between the 2. Kansas has been consistently relevant over the last 2 decades. Nebraska football has not been relevant in almost 2 decades. Recruits going to college now, have never in their entire life seen a nationally relevant Nebraska football team.. you were superior in an inferior conference. As most neb fans still do, you all thought the success in the 90s playing in the B12 somehow meant you were gonna go to the B10 and automatically have a seat along side Ohio St. funny thing is 99.9% of the college football world was laughing at nebraska as we all knew they had no clue what they just signed up for. Lol, and then you fire the one and only coach who was successful and competitive. The fans, the big money boosters, are probably more to blame for the dumpster fire that is nebraska, more so than any coach or player. And the admins who caved to the pressure and fired bo shoulder a lot of the blame also. This weird fairy tale and pipe dream world neb fans live in thinking they will be and should be playing for nattys is comical. It’s funny because the only people in the country who don’t cry laughing at the absurdity of thinking that’s even obtainable are the irrational and incompetent section of the neb fan base.
I think if you ask most nebraska fans now they'd still be OK with firing Pelini when they did. He would get blown out consistently during big games (particularly nationally televised ones) and would make such an ass of himself on the sideline to the point where he was affecting the game with unsportsmanlike penalties. He was starting to become an embarrassment. Plus I think he had a real disdain for the fans and the program administration in general. Where Nebraska really fucked up was trading in a 9 win coach for a nice guy nobody from a weaker conference that had very little presence on the national stage. I mean if you're serious about competing with the big dogs why would you not shell out the cash and get a name? The Frost era, however, was an unmitigated disaster that I don't think anyone could have predicted. It's just been a string of bad decisions and bad luck. I don't think any rational husker fan thinks they should be in the hunt for a natty every year. But there's no reason, given the resources and devoted fan base, that they can't be on the same par as wisconsin and Iowa and occasionally even Penn st.
Did you just say kansas has been more relevant than nebraska the past 2 decades? Lol what? Kansas has just been ok for the past 2 seasons other than that they have been dogshit. In the past 2 dacades nebraska has been to 5 conference championship games and has had 4-10 win seasons. Fuck I hate stupid people!
Sims was an important hire, but every hire doesn’t work out. Every Creighton bb recruit hasn’t worked out either. 😊