Your channel is amazing, thanks for all the explanations and tutorials. I have a question - is there any major difference between the Eclipse HP-CS and the HP-BS ? I need the smaller cup size, but everyone is always only talking about the CS, so I was wondering. Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. Your work is fantastic. The HP-BS is basically the same airbrush as the HP-CS, but with a smaller cup. The HP-BS is also a little bit shorter. They both have the same nozzle, head system, trigger, etc and spray exactly the same. Can't go wrong with either of them. hope this helps!
@@theartworkshop I had a hunch that would be the case, but I wanted to make sure before I made the investment. So this helps a lot, thanks for taking the time to reply!
Man, I would love to see a video from you on miniature painting, I think everyone (possibly yourself included) could learn a lot from that. I’d like to see using the brands of paints that are marketed towards mini painting to see your pros and cons, how to thin them properly, and most importantly would be to see how painting onto ‘shapes’ where that third dimension (curves and concaves) affect painting because of the way air moves around those shapes.
@@theartworkshop it would be amazing, I think you realise you're starting to get a lot of interest from mini painters and that's only going to continue.
My number 1 is also the Iwata Eclipse. But then, it's the only one I own, so... I have always believed in buying the best tool there is and the Eclipse was rated as the best by the places I researched. Thank you for this video. As I watched it I was astounded to see some of your work! Honestly, I had absolutely no idea that kind of thing could be done with an airbrush. I'm one of those who do model railroad custom painting but never, in a million years, could I do something like I just saw in this video! I have subscribed just to watch something as wonderful as this just for the pure pleasure of seeing it,
I think you did a very good review, specifically stating what you are looking for in your use and style. Currently, I spray Fiber Reactive Dyes on my turned wooden bowls, but am looking to expand my finished products to other media, especially on my bowls. Thank you for the review.
I have for almost 35 years a Thayer & Chandler A10 for painting pictures and scale models, but the last week got damaged for the first time, the the air valve spring broke. So I finally decided to leave in peace my old airbrush and get a new one. My top three are Iwata Eclipse HP-CS, Harder & Steenbeck - ULTRA and just for having another blast of luck for the next 35 years a Thayer & Chandler - Omni Matrix. Thank you for this top ten, it was a good guide to pick up an airbrush. 👌👌👌
Bought the Creos PS-771 before watching this comparison, but didn't use until after watching. Looks like I bought the right airbrush. I really like this airbrush, and do find it effective on detail painting. I am using it to put Chroma Craft wood dye on a maple hollow form, and it is working very well.
You are right... each airbrush may be better for certain work ... I would always tell my students, consider price, cost of parts, availability of parts and the type of wok you do... Paasche uses mostly brass for parts and brass is cheaper so the price of parts reflect that. EFBE has harden fluid nozzles and needles and are milled to match. Mine is an old one and is 0.15 mm. Sadly they stopped production of a AB Turbo. The Iwata Micron, built on licence from Olympus. As you said to each their own. The SP-35 Sparmax is inexpensive and handles Titanium White Acrylics with no issues.The The Thayer & Chandler Model A came out at the turn of the century (1900). Paasche AB Turbo 1905 ... Great detail...
Such awesome and helpful information. Just starting out with airbrushing. Ive used many different painting methods but never had enough knowledge. Thank you, thank you for all the tips for before I even make a picture!
Great breakdown. As requested, my top five: 5. Thayer and Chandler Model A 4. Aerograph Super 63A 3. H&S Infinity CR. 2. Iwata HP-AH 1. Paasche Turbo AB
They come up for sale every so often. I have one from 1931 and one of the last from '80. Paasche still has parts for them. I bought my first brush in '82 at the original Pearl Paint on Canal St. I was a pink kid with a pocketful of cash and wanted the best brush they had. The guy refused to even show me the Turbo, said it was for pros only. I settled on an Iwata HP-BC2 that I still use (all original parts too). A few years back I grabbed one and loved it, then got the '31 and was amazed how smooth it is. I don't think I paid more than $50 for either one. Some some reason I've been into getting vintage brushes lately, although I'm probably grabbing a Creos 771 now after your video. I don't do enough illustration to warrant spending five bills on a Micron and I have 3 Iwata (TH, BC2 and AH). @@theartworkshop
I paint mainly miniatures, but I am also interested to eventually paint all types of things. I really like the trigger lock mechanism for beginners, availability of parts, and having the option to change nozzle sizes. These are selling points for the Ultra 2024. The Iwata, from what i've read and info gathered, is just one of the best airbrushes ever. Reliable, smooth, comfortable, universal usage, tried and true. I can get an Iwata for $150, and the Ultra is $110. What would you suggest to get? Or your thoughts?
Both are awesome airbrushes. The ultra is very good to learn the basics and some trigger control but I personally like the Iwata eclipse more. It's an airbrush you'll never need to upgrade from. Can't go wrong with either though!
Another great video, I always enjoy watching your reviews and hearing your opinions. For my part I have a few Creos brushes on the rack and love them all. Among them I have a PS-771 and, I also wished for an alternate, smaller paint cup option. I discovered that many of the 771 parts are a drop-fit on some of the Chinese Micron look-alikes. I have converted a few of these and they are my go-to brushes for a lot of small shot detail work. As a modeler I use them for a lot of weathering effects including spraying artist oils and speckling. I have a few Brushes with PS-770/771 heads based on Fengda BD-208’s (aka Master G48 and PointZero PZ-408). These feature a small 2cc cup but are otherwise identical to the more common 9cc models. The conversions involved replacing the head assembly, needle, and air valve with Creos parts.
Well, I just bought the Gaahleri Airbrush Kit, Airbrush Gun Dual Action Gravity Feed Set, 0.38 & 0.5mm Needles, and the Iwata Eclipse Takumi Side Feed Dual Action Airbrush, ECL350T. I also have the Iwata HP BC1 plus, and cheaper Master Airbrush, can't remember the model number. I'm doing models and custom guitar bodies. Probably start doing some portraits and landscapes too. I think I'd particularly like painting animals.
greetings Mark, great videos, having started airbrushing in 1975 the real only game in town was Paasche airbrushes and One Shot Enamel, for the very few airbrush painters out there at the time (I was in LA) no one shared anything with anybody, nothing, it was all trail and error, (this was way before Createx and most everything out there today, I probably shot everything you could shoot through an airbrush while painting on t-shirts to custom vans, low riders, murals, etc.) so I really enjoy your sharing and teaching your excellent talent pretty much for free, that's a real blessing in today's economy, one of the reasons I started to support in a small way you and your channel, at 76 I still paint in my studio and enjoy watching all of the new techinques that have evolved since I began airbrushing, keep up the great work, reguarding your lesson today I have most of the airbrushes you shared about along with my 7 paasches I began painting with 50 years ago, which all still work great, p.s. my first VL3 cost me $5.00 at a swap meet, but like you I do love the Iwata's which I have use since the 90's, thanks again, I do admire you and your work, the folks out in the world of RUclips are really getting an amazing education in the airbrush field from you and some of the many talented artist who freely share, great stuff!! t.
Thomas thank you so so much for your generous support. It's so kind of you and I greatly appreciate it. I used tons of one shot too! Works well but will clear out the house. I still love it for lettering (with a traditional brush) though. I appreciate the kinds words. It's a pleasure to get to know people like you on here and I really enjoy doing it. 76 today is still a young man!! Plenty of great paintings ahead of you my friend. I absolutly need to get more paasches on this channel. The talon I have is fantastic and I'll need to pick up a vl-3. Bet it will cost me more than $5!! Thanks again Thomas.
@@theartworkshop I've found the The Paasche Millennium with a picker cap and rounded half ball trigger is the ants pants. I bought out the supplier of Frisk CS 10 Board here in Oz when they shut down ... still glad I did as I still have about one box and a couple sheets left... Drew called me and told me about "His" new board ... pricey in Australian Dollars. Side note. I took a trip to Michigan before COVID hit and stopped at "MACK BRUSH" company and way overspent ... worth the trip! (My partner was one of my students from my adult class in 1993, as she was a "Ticket Writer") so she also helped me spend too much...LOL
I just like to thank you for your amazing and inspiring videos. I really was in doubt on which airbrush to get. After watching your videos I made my mind to get the Iwata Eclipse.
I bought 2 airbrushes while watching this video and got to the end and found that the #1 is the airbrush I owned all along lol! But excited to get my H&S Ultra and Iwata revolution in the mail now too. awesome video man! Thank you!!
Thank you for your channel Mark, Really enjoyed this overview of your top ten, as I do all of your videos. I use many different makes of brushes and agree totally with your top choice, I still remember that feel and response first time using the Eclipse and saying to myself, Ah this is why everyone raves on about them. It will remain my go to brush when finishing up various artworks.
Thanks so much! that eclipse is a hard airbrush to beat- I feel very much the same as you. seems like everyone loves it as well. Best to you in your paintings!
I have owned 4 of the top 10. Now own 2, Iwata Revolution and HP-B. Agree with your judgement putting the HS Evoution ahead of the Infinity. I two thought it was better, have sold them both. What I hated about the Infinity is that dam needle set button at the back of the airbrush. Agree on cup size too, I prefer a small cup over medium or large any day. Must get an Elipse and custom Mircon one day. Have a Gaahleri Swallowtail on the way.
Perfecto combo setup these- The revolution for general use airbrushing and the Hp-b for detail. You're set! The eclipse sprays nearly identical to both of those so one that wouldn't add much. The Gaahleri Swallowtail looks amazing- nice option for a handle trigger airbrush.
Love my Iwata revolution, but have problem when using start is awesome but after like 50% of paint it starts to irregular with spraying and even do a spider web when at first was ideal. I’m using 5 drops of paint 1:1 with thinner. Do you have any recommendations to deal with it?
Thanks for the video! Which would you recommend between the HP-CS and the H&S Ultra? I'm planning to use it for painting helmets and various art projects, using Createx Wicked and other automotive paints.
Hi Mark, Need a little further infor and recommendation. I am a HO Scale 1/87th scale modeler. I detail freight cars and engines for clients and I am looking to get the best detail airbrush that can do small rust spots and the like. I have watched your video here and have some ideas what might work better for me than other but with the detail option that I am really wanting I would love to know what you would go with. Have no issues buying a $200 to $300 airbrush if that is what you recommend, But I do not think I need to go to the $500-600 level to get what I need. I would Love to hear back from you regarding what you recommend. Thank you for your time and ALL of your efforts with your videos, You are an incredible artist that is without question. Rob Miller
Thanks so much Rob. Really appreciate the kind words. I'd have to recommend the creo ps 771 for this. It sprays just like a micron and is incredible for painting detail. The only thing is that you MUST be using a good airbrush paint for it to spray well. The .18 is unforgiving with cheaper paints. Awesome airbrush though and I'll bet you'll love it. The only other detail airbrush I like more is the micon takumi.
@@theartworkshop Thank you so very much for this recommendation, I have bought one and Absolutely agree with your recommendation!!!! It works perfectly for what i need to be done.. Thank you!
Love your video. Very well put together. I do own few airbrushes including the Iwata Eclipse. I’m in the process of ordering the 2024 HS Ultra or Evolution 2in1. Haven’t made up my mind on which one yet. Maybe both lol.
Worth noting that the trigger hack wasn’t originally Dred’s. There’s comments on RUclips from nearly a decade ago detailing the exact same method with the same seals. Just so the original adopters get a little credit for it :)!
There where also some other mods than no one talks about anymore : to replace the spring by a stiffer / longer one, it helps a little and "fixes" the trigger nearly the same as the two teflon washers. There was also a trick using two triger springs inter twined (I have no idea how it worked...). For me, the best method is another method that I read : cut out the floppy mobile part off the rear of the trigger and replace it with the back part from the Ultra trigger (that unclips and clips on the Infinity trigger), as the Ultra trigger does'nt have the engineering flaw of the Evolution / Infinity trigger. For me it is also a good idea to remove the trigger top as it is unconfortable and do a mod of the trigger top as Dred FX... or just use the Ultra trigger as it is (I quite like the Ultra trigger top personnally).
@@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder I too swapped the Infinity trigger with a Ultra trigger . It is far better than the washers trick as it removes the problem at the root 👍👍👍
What you can advice for miniatures painting with acrylic? Iwata HC or HP-B? Because priming with 0.2 little bit harder than 0.35, but detail work is very good, right? Eclipse with 0.35 is it good for detail work compared with HP-B?
First / The Iwata Custom micron cm-b is my all time favorite airbrush because it has the finest lines and the feel of the build fits perfectly in my hand ✍️ I like the smaller cup since I work mainly in small sections at a time. I also prefer to work without the handle on the gun. Second / would be the Iwata cm-c plus and third / the Iwata eclipse because it has an amazing overall consistency !
Ok. If you really compare what these airbrushes can do, none of them can do what Iwata can. Period. Fact. I'm not being a doink. If you compare psi for psi. Nothing atomizes like iwata. I would recommend the Eclipse series because it can do everything. And, the Microns for super fine control. The New Takumi is actually my design so i am partial to this model in both Eclipse & Micron. Yes H&S make beautiful AB's... but there is no technology behind the aircap like there is with Iwata. Which is part of the reason why iwata can out atomize anyone by alot. Not just a few psi. I'm talkin at least 10psi
Agree with number 1 - have used it the most. Have the sotar, ps270, ps771and HPCS. Use them all except the sotar - have two and both spray grainy compared to japanese brands. Not sure why.
I have the Sotar and know what you mean. I have fixed this by removing the needle and gently pulling the tip of the needle across very fine sandpaper (800 or more grit) a few times. Doing this puts a nice smooth tip back on the needle..
Advanced Painter Tip: EVERY and I repeat EVERY airbrush gets stuck. It doesn't matter what range of quality it is. Whether it is due to the environment, the temperature, or the paint or the type of airbrush head, in the end, EVERYONE ends up getting clogged. Don't try to buy an airbrush because they only tell you "it doesn't clog." My recommendation: buy a mid-range airbrush (between 80 euros is fine), an IWATA for example. And PLEASE buy a good compressor for €120 (not the ones that look like a box of cookies)
Where would the new 2024 evolution place in this list? I'm torn about getting the eclipse or evolution 2in1 for my first brush and it's very difficult to pick.
oh man that's a hard one- I love them both to be honest. The new evo is really really good, but I personally like the eclipse more. It's my favorite airbrush ever so my answer is probably biased. Both are awesome airbrushes though. Best of luck to you!
Would you recommend a Iwata Eclipse HP-CS or the H&S Ultra 2024 for Warhammer mini painting? I'm a first time airbrush buyer but you really caught my attention when you said buy the Iwata once for life. If its good for Warhammer 40k painting I am sold!
H&S I love the nozzles...just ideal design, self centering, PTFE seal, no threads etc. Full compatibility across the line. But their Trigger is a 1/10, ruins the entire AB Creos 289..I 3d printed a handle for it :D Surprised 771 wasn't #1, almost same price as Eclipse and parts are cheaper
the 771 could have easily been number one! I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you on that. I just think the eclipse is so much more versatile and anyone can use it. But for extreme detail, its the 771 and micron all day!
I stumbled on this video just a couple of days after ordering an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS. Happy it's even on your list, let alone at the top. I paint models - trains, planes, armour etc. I've been getting good results with the Paasche Talon. Looking forward to learning the Eclipse.
I paint O scale model trains, which are rather on the large size. Large area coverage, followed by detail spray doing weathering and shading puts a lot pressure on a brush to do a range of duty. My primary has become the Iwata HP-BCS, a siphon bottle system that allows larger volume needed when painting large area. It has been customized with an adjustable stop tailpiece from the Micron line. I find it amazing in its ability to both do large area coverage, and small detail. I did just buy the new Gaahleri Swallowtail with fan tip which may well become my new large area standard. This opens the door to convert the HP-BCS to .35 nozzle as yours is so equipped, and make it more adept at the detail end. I have been tempted to buy a Micron .18 for years, just because it is such a wonderful fine detail tool, but for the kind of work I do, the truth is, its not necessary. I can only agree with your assessment.. Iwata.. In the order you show, for the reasons you give👍.
My top 3-- Olympos MP200-C Micron (I have two), Olympos MP200-B Micron, Olympos SP-B...just received a 2024 H & S Evo CRPlus solo yesterday that I just love using already--trigger is super smooth w/ instant response. Retired all my Iwatas (including a CM-C Micron) after I got my first Olympos Micron. Have been tempted to get an HP-100B or C, but now seriously thinking about getting a 2024 H & S Infinity when they get released.
The Eclipse is one of my top ones it a good all-round brush I want another one but with .5 for metallic paints h-line is good to if you cant afford your number 2 brush real didn't like badger 20/29 one
4:48 what the entire FUCK happened with that S? i dont know much about airbrushed but i would be furious if that happened with a $250 brush. could you imagine if that happened when your were 20+ hours into that painting??? i would be so angry i would throw that airbursh through as many walls as was in front of me.
Very good review, I totally agree with the comments for all the airbrushes that I own or that I could get my hands on to review (I never tried the Iwata Microns, neither the new H&S Ultra 2024, and never used extensively a Badger Sotar). Personally for the way my setup is, the Iwata Revolution or the Eclipse (I've tried them and love them, but don't own them) would not be so great because they do'nt have a mac valve, and an air control valve is usefull for me as my compressor is in another room. I don't like some aftermarket air valve under the airbrush as I don't find them confortable, so I like the H&S concept of the fPc valve (I have bought one for each of my 3 H&S airbrushes). I too rank the Evolution and particulary the Infinity quite low because of the bad trigger design. And my Creos 289, that I bought without thinking much about it after seeing one of your videos was truely a great surprise... I love it, and it is my go to airbrush now.
My favorite airbrush for modeling railroad is my Badger 155 Anthem I use for acrylic paints. For lacquer and enamel paints I use my Harbor Freight Chinese .3mm airbrush. Harbor Freight 1/5 HP compressor and I have an 8 gallon compressor if the need arises. I figured that the lacquer & enamel paints need to be atomized more than acrylic so .5mm for acrylics and .3mm for lacquer/enamel. However, I did use the Badger to repaint my 1925 Coleman stove. I'm no artist and don't really use it like you do. Great artist with an airbrush. Your copies look just like the original. I may have to give it a try. Cheers from eastern TN
Nice video! Thanks for producing such high quality review. Looking forward to see you to review Tamiya 74537 / 74514 airbrush, both are manufactured by Rich Pen Japan
Hey bud, thank you for such a rad video. I’m a novice mini painter interested in getting a better airbrush. I picked up the Youfu one that come with a mini compressor and it’s ok for base coating, but I’d like to up my game a bit. My local store sells the eclipse, would you recommend that for someone in my position, or would the Ultra be a better choice? Also, I’d love to see a video with you trying some of the miniature acrylics paints; vallejo, citadel, etc. thank you much and keep it up!
I AGREE THE IWATA ECLPSE IS ALL AROUND AIRBRUSH WHAT YOU FORGOT TO SAY IS THAT THE ECLIPSE IS A WAYHORSE I MEAN IT TAKES A BEATING AND KEEPS ON AND ON !!! GREAT VIDEO
I was about to give up on the Infinity, but the fix over at Dredd FX channel cost a couple bucks and takes minutes to implement. It makes the trigger response dead on point.
The best airbrush is the one that you feel comfortable and at ease with like an extension of your hand. One that you do not need to think about while using. It may be plain or cheap and expensive and fancy. Only the user can determine that. Thanks for your videos... most informative.
Beautiful collection! I do agreed with everything you said about the Iwata microns as well as the Creos 771, that one is a magnificent airbrush for a super cheap price, (compared with the microns). I do not own any H&S or Badger airbrushes so I can't comment on those. But I think any Japanese airbrush will perform really well do to their quality control! Great helpful review! Thanks!!!!
Hi Mark, I was just doing research for buying an airbrush and stumbled across your video. I just got started airbrushing scale models a few months back, so started off with a cheapo Chinese brush to just learn the basics. I’m now ready to move up to a better model and am torn between the H&S Ultra 2024 and the Iwata Revolution HP-CR3, so was pretty happy to see both of these in your top ten. I hear that the Ultra 2024 is aimed at the beginner, so would this be a better choice for me over the Revolution? Keep up the great videos.
oh man those are 2 really great airbrushes in my opinion. I'd be happy with either one. For models and starting out, I think the ultra 24 might be a better choice because those features can be very helpful. For what I do, I prefer the revolution. Again, you can't go wrong with either!
Great review and information. Two airbrushes to consider are the Richpen Phoenix Mojo by Mike Learn and the Olympos HP100SB. Both are close competitors to the Micron. The Richpen Mojo is a bit pricey, but worth it IMO. The Olympos HP100sb is about $100 and close in performance to the Micron. Thanks for all your videos.
My number one from the ones I own if I had to start all over would be the iwata kustom hp-ch! Can do basically everything. Thanks for sharing. Great choices!
hey mark, what are your thoughts on the green coluor plastic airbrush handle that you can buy for more ergonomic grip , i putted that on sotar and hp b+ , and i think i does help with fatigue.. have u tried them?
that sounds like a great addition. I haven't used them because I'm so used to the standard feel, but anything that makes it more comfortable and helps with fatigue is a good thing in my book!
Definitely plus one on the mini painting suggestion, you'll get a lot of traction from those of us in the mini community. You're artwork is beautiful and i know i would love to see what you could do on a 3 dimensional object.
I appreciate it- thanks so much! I'm a big fan of the mini community. i've met so many miniature and scale modelers since starting this channel and they are awesome! a great community of people.
I got the Iwata Eclipse Takumi Side Feed today. Just put the cup in and ran some air through it, no paint. Couldn't get the cup out to store it back in its case. I twisted and pulled and it just wouldn't come out. Then the cup came off the stem. The stem was still stuck in the airbrush! So I took a piece of an old cotton t-shirt and place it over the stem and got a pair of pliers to pull the stem out. Wouldn't budge. So I got some WD 40 and spray along the stem. Still wouldn't come out. Sent this piece of shit back for a refund.
the stem cracked?! that's awful. I would send that back too!! I haven't heard of that happening, but I'll keep an eye on mine to see if I notice anything with it. Where did you order it from?
Just wanted to share with you how’s much I liked your review. Also, that your set work is what defines jealous ❤. Very talented abs I love realism art. Good on you
Great list out of my collection it's ps289, Iwata custom micron (very close to each other) and Passche Talon using the. 38 needle/nozzle the trigger is incredibly smooth and very responsive that's my top 3, I also have a Passche VL which is smooth and responsive for a cheaper brush and I have a badger patriot 105 which could easily slot in ahead of the VL and there's no need to mention my neoeco and masters garbage.
Hey Mark, thank you very much for this video. It is very detailed and someone like me that is just starting out, really benefits from a video like this.
There only reason is because I don't own one!! I'm sure it would be up there, because I've heard so many amazing things. I buy all the airbrushes so it gets expensive but I will 100% get to grex this year
I did the upgrade to my Ultra with the Evo 24 trigger and spring. I use a .2 nozzle, fineline head with the Giraldez needle caps. Without the cup its just the GOAT for detail (for me). There is no difference in performance to an Infinity, but the cup is entirely removable and it has no annoying cut out or a limiter. Insane brush
Thanks for this information. I am buying a pre-owned Iwata HP B plus. After your info on the nozzle, I'm concerned & I have some more questions about it. Would you mind if I ask you? Thank you! Great paintings!!
@@theartworkshop Thanks so much! I received the pre-owned HP B plus & am trying to assess it right now. It does spray & put out paint. Doesn't seem as small a pattern as I had anticipated or the paint coming out as quickly, but I haven't done much yet. The handle was stuck but I got it. But, the needle isn't coming out and the guard at the tip is stuck to the head. The head is not stuck but I don't know about just taking it off!! It looks like someone may have used something on it & scratched it up. I know about breaking down airbrushes & getting them going, but this is an IWATA! (My first one, I've wanted one forever!!!) And, after finding out from your video about the head situation and how it needs a special tool & everything I've been worried about what to do in handling it & probably needing to replace some parts and so, I wanted to ask you for your advice with it. Do I need to get one of those tools? It did not come with one. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it!
@@CreativeHeart-jk1xr Congrats on your first Iwata! They are fantastic and that HP B should serve you well. It sounds like you are looking to replace the nozzle and the nozzle cap. Before you swap anything out, I would work with the airbrush for a few days or weeks to see if you can get comfortable using it. Generally when one of those parts is broken, you'll see bubbles in the cup and the airbrush will spray very little paint, if any at all. It sounds like the airbrush is spraying for you. which is a good sign. The only thing I usually replace on a used airbrush is the needle. See if you can get your airbrush to spray fine lines, dots, gradients (all that fun stuff). If you find out the nozzle is in fact damaged, Iwata sells a nozzle wrench that you can use to remove it and replace with a new one. The airbrush comes with a small spanner wrench to unscrew it as well, but maybe the original owner misplaced it. I'm sure you'll get it working. Hope this helps and best of luck to you!
I use them for miniature painting and even when I have the 3 needles for the talon I would like to get a more precise airbrush for the tinniest details.
thanks so much! The talon is a great airbrush. I really enjoy painting with it. You might like a detail airbrush for miniatures. The creos ps771 is awesome and so is the new Harder and Steenbeck Ultra with the .28. A new infinity is coming out soon, but I haven't tried it out yet. Hope this helps!
I’m stuck between the Ultra 2024 and Revolution for painting lures. I’ve been using a cheap Amazon brush for two years and looking to move up. Is it just a matter of finding the best deal between the two?
Oh man that's tough. Both are awesome. A cool thing about the ulltra 24 is that you can upgrade to smaller needle, nozzle, and air cap sizes if you want to turn the airbrush into a detail version. You can get awesome detail with the stock nozzle though.
@@theartworkshopI like to paint a lot of metallic paints so the larger nozzle is a benefit but my biggest complaint is trigger control. Sometimes it works beautifully and others you just keep pulling back waiting for paint to make its way out. I think I’ll follow my gut and go for the ultra.
@@LavalleeLures I know what you mean because some metallics can be a real pain. I just love the ultra 24. It really is such a cool airbrush with amazing control. I bet you'll love it as well.
And heres a fact. Double action is a marketing trick to sell you a cheap trigger that literally is missing parts to reduce costs. All those 10 ABs are double action and low cost product cheats.
Have you tried the Reaper VEX? It's a Badger airbrush, even though it's branded by Reaper Miniatures. I had the Patriot before I got it and haven't used the Patriot since. You obviously know your stuff so I'd be interested in your opinion of it if you'd care to try it. Thanks for the awesome informative videos.
Your channel is amazing, thanks for all the explanations and tutorials. I have a question - is there any major difference between the Eclipse HP-CS and the HP-BS ?
I need the smaller cup size, but everyone is always only talking about the CS, so I was wondering. Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. Your work is fantastic.
The HP-BS is basically the same airbrush as the HP-CS, but with a smaller cup. The HP-BS is also a little bit shorter. They both have the same nozzle, head system, trigger, etc and spray exactly the same. Can't go wrong with either of them. hope this helps!
@@theartworkshop I had a hunch that would be the case, but I wanted to make sure before I made the investment. So this helps a lot, thanks for taking the time to reply!
Man, I would love to see a video from you on miniature painting, I think everyone (possibly yourself included) could learn a lot from that. I’d like to see using the brands of paints that are marketed towards mini painting to see your pros and cons, how to thin them properly, and most importantly would be to see how painting onto ‘shapes’ where that third dimension (curves and concaves) affect painting because of the way air moves around those shapes.
I'm sure that is very true. There is always something to learn from all aspects of painting. I'll consider it for sure- thanks!
@@theartworkshop it would be amazing, I think you realise you're starting to get a lot of interest from mini painters and that's only going to continue.
I just ordered a iwaka revolution br last week to get started on my air brush journey. So hyped to see this on your list.
My number 1 is also the Iwata Eclipse. But then, it's the only one I own, so... I have always believed in buying the best tool there is and the Eclipse was rated as the best by the places I researched.
Thank you for this video. As I watched it I was astounded to see some of your work! Honestly, I had absolutely no idea that kind of thing could be done with an airbrush. I'm one of those who do model railroad custom painting but never, in a million years, could I do something like I just saw in this video! I have subscribed just to watch something as wonderful as this just for the pure pleasure of seeing it,
thanks so much for the kind words. So glad to hear that you enjoyed it.
I think you did a very good review, specifically stating what you are looking for in your use and style. Currently, I spray Fiber Reactive Dyes on my turned wooden bowls, but am looking to expand my finished products to other media, especially on my bowls. Thank you for the review.
I have for almost 35 years a Thayer & Chandler A10 for painting pictures and scale models, but the last week got damaged for the first time, the the air valve spring broke. So I finally decided to leave in peace my old airbrush and get a new one. My top three are Iwata Eclipse HP-CS, Harder & Steenbeck - ULTRA and just for having another blast of luck for the next 35 years a Thayer & Chandler - Omni Matrix. Thank you for this top ten, it was a good guide to pick up an airbrush. 👌👌👌
how amazing- That is a special airbrush to make it almost 4 decades!! Here's to another 35 with your new airbrushes. Great top 3
Bought the Creos PS-771 before watching this comparison, but didn't use until after watching. Looks like I bought the right airbrush. I really like this airbrush, and do find it effective on detail painting. I am using it to put Chroma Craft wood dye on a maple hollow form, and it is working very well.
It's an excellent airbrush! One of my favorites out today.
You are right... each airbrush may be better for certain work ... I would always tell my students, consider price, cost of parts, availability of parts and the type of wok you do... Paasche uses mostly brass for parts and brass is cheaper so the price of parts reflect that. EFBE has harden fluid nozzles and needles and are milled to match. Mine is an old one and is 0.15 mm. Sadly they stopped production of a AB Turbo. The Iwata Micron, built on licence from Olympus. As you said to each their own. The SP-35 Sparmax is inexpensive and handles Titanium White Acrylics with no issues.The The Thayer & Chandler Model A came out at the turn of the century (1900). Paasche AB Turbo 1905 ... Great detail...
Such awesome and helpful information. Just starting out with airbrushing. Ive used many different painting methods but never had enough knowledge. Thank you, thank you for all the tips for before I even make a picture!
Glad it was helpful- thanks so very much!
This is the best channel for airbrush. Thank you for the videos!
thanks so much!
Great breakdown. As requested, my top five: 5. Thayer and Chandler Model A 4. Aerograph Super 63A 3. H&S Infinity CR. 2. Iwata HP-AH 1. Paasche Turbo AB
greatlist- Paasche turbo at #1 is awesome!! still need to get myself one of those
They come up for sale every so often. I have one from 1931 and one of the last from '80. Paasche still has parts for them. I bought my first brush in '82 at the original Pearl Paint on Canal St. I was a pink kid with a pocketful of cash and wanted the best brush they had. The guy refused to even show me the Turbo, said it was for pros only. I settled on an Iwata HP-BC2 that I still use (all original parts too). A few years back I grabbed one and loved it, then got the '31 and was amazed how smooth it is. I don't think I paid more than $50 for either one. Some some reason I've been into getting vintage brushes lately, although I'm probably grabbing a Creos 771 now after your video. I don't do enough illustration to warrant spending five bills on a Micron and I have 3 Iwata (TH, BC2 and AH). @@theartworkshop
I paint mainly miniatures, but I am also interested to eventually paint all types of things. I really like the trigger lock mechanism for beginners, availability of parts, and having the option to change nozzle sizes. These are selling points for the Ultra 2024. The Iwata, from what i've read and info gathered, is just one of the best airbrushes ever. Reliable, smooth, comfortable, universal usage, tried and true. I can get an Iwata for $150, and the Ultra is $110. What would you suggest to get? Or your thoughts?
Both are awesome airbrushes. The ultra is very good to learn the basics and some trigger control but I personally like the Iwata eclipse more. It's an airbrush you'll never need to upgrade from. Can't go wrong with either though!
Another great video, I always enjoy watching your reviews and hearing your opinions. For my part I have a few Creos brushes on the rack and love them all. Among them I have a PS-771 and, I also wished for an alternate, smaller paint cup option. I discovered that many of the 771 parts are a drop-fit on some of the Chinese Micron look-alikes. I have converted a few of these and they are my go-to brushes for a lot of small shot detail work. As a modeler I use them for a lot of weathering effects including spraying artist oils and speckling. I have a few Brushes with PS-770/771 heads based on Fengda BD-208’s (aka Master G48 and PointZero PZ-408). These feature a small 2cc cup but are otherwise identical to the more common 9cc models. The conversions involved replacing the head assembly, needle, and air valve with Creos parts.
I love my creos brushes as well. They are incredible!
Well, I just bought the Gaahleri Airbrush Kit, Airbrush Gun Dual Action Gravity Feed Set, 0.38 & 0.5mm Needles, and the Iwata Eclipse Takumi Side Feed Dual Action Airbrush, ECL350T.
I also have the Iwata HP BC1 plus, and cheaper Master Airbrush, can't remember the model number. I'm doing models and custom guitar bodies. Probably start doing some portraits and landscapes too. I think I'd particularly like painting animals.
greetings Mark, great videos, having started airbrushing in 1975 the real only game in town was Paasche airbrushes and One Shot Enamel, for the very few airbrush painters out there at the time (I was in LA) no one shared anything with anybody, nothing, it was all trail and error, (this was way before Createx and most everything out there today, I probably shot everything you could shoot through an airbrush while painting on t-shirts to custom vans, low riders, murals, etc.) so I really enjoy your sharing and teaching your excellent talent pretty much for free, that's a real blessing in today's economy, one of the reasons I started to support in a small way you and your channel, at 76 I still paint in my studio and enjoy watching all of the new techinques that have evolved since I began airbrushing, keep up the great work, reguarding your lesson today I have most of the airbrushes you shared about along with my 7 paasches I began painting with 50 years ago, which all still work great, p.s. my first VL3 cost me $5.00 at a swap meet, but like you I do love the Iwata's which I have use since the 90's, thanks again, I do admire you and your work, the folks out in the world of RUclips are really getting an amazing education in the airbrush field from you and some of the many talented artist who freely share, great stuff!! t.
Thomas thank you so so much for your generous support. It's so kind of you and I greatly appreciate it. I used tons of one shot too! Works well but will clear out the house. I still love it for lettering (with a traditional brush) though.
I appreciate the kinds words. It's a pleasure to get to know people like you on here and I really enjoy doing it. 76 today is still a young man!! Plenty of great paintings ahead of you my friend. I absolutly need to get more paasches on this channel. The talon I have is fantastic and I'll need to pick up a vl-3. Bet it will cost me more than $5!! Thanks again Thomas.
amazing detailed Video :) thank you and your drawed Arts ar unbelivebal !! O_o wow !@@theartworkshop
@@theartworkshop I've found the The Paasche Millennium with a picker cap and rounded half ball trigger is the ants pants.
I bought out the supplier of Frisk CS 10 Board here in Oz when they shut down ... still glad I did as I still have about one box and a couple sheets left... Drew called me and told me about "His" new board ... pricey in Australian Dollars.
Side note. I took a trip to Michigan before COVID hit and stopped at "MACK BRUSH" company and way overspent ... worth the trip! (My partner was one of my students from my adult class in 1993, as she was a "Ticket Writer") so she also helped me spend too much...LOL
I just like to thank you for your amazing and inspiring videos. I really was in doubt on which airbrush to get. After watching your videos I made my mind to get the Iwata Eclipse.
I bought 2 airbrushes while watching this video and got to the end and found that the #1 is the airbrush I owned all along lol! But excited to get my H&S Ultra and Iwata revolution in the mail now too. awesome video man! Thank you!!
thanks! 3 awesome airbrushes you've got. I find myself reaching for the iwata revolution so much these days.
Thank you for your channel Mark, Really enjoyed this overview of your top ten, as I do all of your videos. I use many different makes of brushes and agree totally with your top choice, I still remember that feel and response first time using the Eclipse and saying to myself, Ah this is why everyone raves on about them. It will remain my go to brush when finishing up various artworks.
Thanks so much! that eclipse is a hard airbrush to beat- I feel very much the same as you. seems like everyone loves it as well. Best to you in your paintings!
The evolution 2024 is on my list to buy with the new trigger and the .28 and .45 needles I'm told the trigger is night and day of the old brushes
I think you should have tried barbatos rex and studio G's swallow tail. Change my ways due to finger fatigue. Still can get very good detail
I have owned 4 of the top 10. Now own 2, Iwata Revolution and HP-B. Agree with your judgement putting the HS Evoution ahead of the Infinity. I two thought it was better, have sold them both. What I hated about the Infinity is that dam needle set button at the back of the airbrush. Agree on cup size too, I prefer a small cup over medium or large any day. Must get an Elipse and custom Mircon one day. Have a Gaahleri Swallowtail on the way.
Perfecto combo setup these- The revolution for general use airbrushing and the Hp-b for detail. You're set! The eclipse sprays nearly identical to both of those so one that wouldn't add much. The Gaahleri Swallowtail looks amazing- nice option for a handle trigger airbrush.
Thanks for taking the time to create this detailed analysis, it is very helpful when you share your knowledge with us beginners.
Love my Iwata revolution, but have problem when using start is awesome but after like 50% of paint it starts to irregular with spraying and even do a spider web when at first was ideal. I’m using 5 drops of paint 1:1 with thinner. Do you have any recommendations to deal with it?
Thanks for the video! Which would you recommend between the HP-CS and the H&S Ultra? I'm planning to use it for painting helmets and various art projects, using Createx Wicked and other automotive paints.
Both are awesome. Honestly you can't go wrong with either. The ultra is very nice to start and learn with.
Hi Mark, Need a little further infor and recommendation. I am a HO Scale 1/87th scale modeler. I detail freight cars and engines for clients and I am looking to get the best detail airbrush that can do small rust spots and the like. I have watched your video here and have some ideas what might work better for me than other but with the detail option that I am really wanting I would love to know what you would go with. Have no issues buying a $200 to $300 airbrush if that is what you recommend, But I do not think I need to go to the $500-600 level to get what I need. I would Love to hear back from you regarding what you recommend. Thank you for your time and ALL of your efforts with your videos, You are an incredible artist that is without question. Rob Miller
Thanks so much Rob. Really appreciate the kind words. I'd have to recommend the creo ps 771 for this. It sprays just like a micron and is incredible for painting detail. The only thing is that you MUST be using a good airbrush paint for it to spray well. The .18 is unforgiving with cheaper paints. Awesome airbrush though and I'll bet you'll love it. The only other detail airbrush I like more is the micon takumi.
@@theartworkshop Thank you so very much for this recommendation, I have bought one and Absolutely agree with your recommendation!!!! It works perfectly for what i need to be done.. Thank you!
Love your video. Very well put together. I do own few airbrushes including the Iwata Eclipse. I’m in the process of ordering the 2024 HS Ultra or Evolution 2in1. Haven’t made up my mind on which one yet. Maybe both lol.
thanks! ive been really enjoying the new evolution. Both are solid choices though- best of luck to you!
Worth noting that the trigger hack wasn’t originally Dred’s. There’s comments on RUclips from nearly a decade ago detailing the exact same method with the same seals.
Just so the original adopters get a little credit for it :)!
There where also some other mods than no one talks about anymore : to replace the spring by a stiffer / longer one, it helps a little and "fixes" the trigger nearly the same as the two teflon washers. There was also a trick using two triger springs inter twined (I have no idea how it worked...). For me, the best method is another method that I read : cut out the floppy mobile part off the rear of the trigger and replace it with the back part from the Ultra trigger (that unclips and clips on the Infinity trigger), as the Ultra trigger does'nt have the engineering flaw of the Evolution / Infinity trigger. For me it is also a good idea to remove the trigger top as it is unconfortable and do a mod of the trigger top as Dred FX... or just use the Ultra trigger as it is (I quite like the Ultra trigger top personnally).
I wasn't aware of that so thank you for letting me know!
@@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder I too swapped the Infinity trigger with a Ultra trigger . It is far better than the washers trick as it removes the problem at the root 👍👍👍
I paint model cars and I am new and I am so confused on what to buy.
Great video.
Glad it was helpful!
@@theartworkshop hp cs or ultra 2024?
@@grega4450 These are the 2 that I am debating on as well
What you can advice for miniatures painting with acrylic?
Iwata HC or HP-B?
Because priming with 0.2 little bit harder than 0.35, but detail work is very good, right?
Eclipse with 0.35 is it good for detail work compared with HP-B?
Never used airbrush and I want to paint minis from Nemesis: Lockdown and BloodRage so I'll probably get H&S ULTRA 2024 🎉 Thx for this video.
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The Iwata Custom micron cm-b is my all time favorite airbrush because it has the finest lines and the feel of the build fits perfectly in my hand ✍️ I like the smaller cup since I work mainly in small sections at a time. I also prefer to work without the handle on the gun.
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would be the Iwata cm-c plus and
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the Iwata eclipse because it has an amazing overall consistency !
love it! that's a great list
Well lm glad I own 7 out of ten of of these. Waiting on the ultra 2024 to buy.
What pressure were you writing "airbrush test" with?
I believe it was around 20psi or so.
How does the Testors Aztec compare?
Wow are you a good artist.
Thank you The Art Work shop bro for the info💯💯💯💯👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼💫💫💫💫💫
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Ok. If you really compare what these airbrushes can do, none of them can do what Iwata can. Period. Fact. I'm not being a doink. If you compare psi for psi. Nothing atomizes like iwata. I would recommend the Eclipse series because it can do everything. And, the Microns for super fine control. The New Takumi is actually my design so i am partial to this model in both Eclipse & Micron. Yes H&S make beautiful AB's... but there is no technology behind the aircap like there is with Iwata. Which is part of the reason why iwata can out atomize anyone by alot. Not just a few psi. I'm talkin at least 10psi
Cool 👍👍😎
Nice top 10 your like me big collection 👌 of brushes I see you got the new ULTRA I have something coming very soon 😮
Thanks! gave you a shout out at 11:16 in this video on your excellent H&S trigger upgrade
@@theartworkshopnice one 👍
Ahh nice to see you interacting here dred!! That trigger upgrade was a game changer for me on that brush.
@@bubba6richards729 cool nice one 👍
@dredfx. Can’t wait for your evo opinion. (And difference with the infinity when you are allowed to release that one 😊
Agree with number 1 - have used it the most.
Have the sotar, ps270, ps771and HPCS.
Use them all except the sotar - have two and both spray grainy compared to japanese brands. Not sure why.
I have the Sotar and know what you mean. I have fixed this by removing the needle and gently pulling the tip of the needle across very fine sandpaper (800 or more grit) a few times. Doing this puts a nice smooth tip back on the needle..
The angle on the creos would make it good for miniature painting, which is for what I'd use it.
1-iwata micron
2-infinity chameleon
3-iwata hp-cs
Great video and appreciate your art and knowledge. 😎
Thanks- The infinity chameleon is a beauty!! Love that airbrush!!
@@theartworkshop agree. It’s like holding a pencil it’s so lite. And thanks dredfx trigger fix it’s now right on point. 😎😎👍🏼
Advanced Painter Tip:
EVERY and I repeat EVERY airbrush gets stuck. It doesn't matter what range of quality it is.
Whether it is due to the environment, the temperature, or the paint or the type of airbrush head, in the end, EVERYONE ends up getting clogged. Don't try to buy an airbrush because they only tell you "it doesn't clog."
My recommendation: buy a mid-range airbrush (between 80 euros is fine), an IWATA for example.
And PLEASE buy a good compressor for €120 (not the ones that look like a box of cookies)
Hi what compressor do you recommend i live in Europe thank you
Where would the new 2024 evolution place in this list? I'm torn about getting the eclipse or evolution 2in1 for my first brush and it's very difficult to pick.
oh man that's a hard one- I love them both to be honest. The new evo is really really good, but I personally like the eclipse more. It's my favorite airbrush ever so my answer is probably biased. Both are awesome airbrushes though. Best of luck to you!
Would you recommend a Iwata Eclipse HP-CS or the H&S Ultra 2024 for Warhammer mini painting? I'm a first time airbrush buyer but you really caught my attention when you said buy the Iwata once for life. If its good for Warhammer 40k painting I am sold!
If you want to get Ultra, take the 2 in 1. Otherwise Eclipse.
I didn’t have to look to know the eclipse would be the number 1
Still mine as well and like you I collect a lot of different ones.
I knew it would be your #1 as well! It's hard to beat.
H&S I love the nozzles...just ideal design, self centering, PTFE seal, no threads etc. Full compatibility across the line. But their Trigger is a 1/10, ruins the entire AB
Creos 289..I 3d printed a handle for it :D
Surprised 771 wasn't #1, almost same price as Eclipse and parts are cheaper
the 771 could have easily been number one! I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you on that. I just think the eclipse is so much more versatile and anyone can use it. But for extreme detail, its the 771 and micron all day!
Can’t backflush the Ultra 2024, very annoying.
Have the infinity and love it,
it's not ideal, but you can slightly unscrew the nozzle cap and press down for air for backflushing cleaner.
I stumbled on this video just a couple of days after ordering an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS. Happy it's even on your list, let alone at the top. I paint models - trains, planes, armour etc. I've been getting good results with the Paasche Talon. Looking forward to learning the Eclipse.
Thank you. You voice reminds me some documentaries from the 90’s, it’s very calming. Love all the review. Already order a Iwata Eclipse
Thanks so very much!
I paint O scale model trains, which are rather on the large size. Large area coverage, followed by detail spray doing weathering and shading puts a lot pressure on a brush to do a range of duty. My primary has become the Iwata HP-BCS, a siphon bottle system that allows larger volume needed when painting large area. It has been customized with an adjustable stop tailpiece from the Micron line. I find it amazing in its ability to both do large area coverage, and small detail. I did just buy the new Gaahleri Swallowtail with fan tip which may well become my new large area standard. This opens the door to convert the HP-BCS to .35 nozzle as yours is so equipped, and make it more adept at the detail end. I have been tempted to buy a Micron .18 for years, just because it is such a wonderful fine detail tool, but for the kind of work I do, the truth is, its not necessary. I can only agree with your assessment.. Iwata.. In the order you show, for the reasons you give👍.
1) Iwata Micron CM-C Plus , 2) Iwata HP-CH HI-Line, 3) H&S Infinity CR Plus, 4) Badger RK-1 Renegade Krome, 5) Badger Sotar 20 /20- 2, 6) RichPen 212 B, 7) Olympos HP-100A
My top 3-- Olympos MP200-C Micron (I have two), Olympos MP200-B Micron, Olympos SP-B...just received a 2024 H & S Evo CRPlus solo yesterday that I just love using already--trigger is super smooth w/ instant response. Retired all my Iwatas (including a CM-C Micron) after I got my first Olympos Micron. Have been tempted to get an HP-100B or C, but now seriously thinking about getting a 2024 H & S Infinity when they get released.
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Gsi creos 289 without the valve is 274 as I was told, I have the 274 and they work amazing as well
I am pretty sure the ps-289 without the mac valve does exist and its known as the ps-274
you are 100% right. I'll eventually get to more Creos airbrushes on this channel. Awesome airbrushes
if u have 2 cups for eclipse takumi can u place both of them at the same time one on the right one on the left? is it working?
The Eclipse is one of my top ones it a good all-round brush I want another one but with .5 for metallic paints h-line is good to if you cant afford your number 2 brush real didn't like badger 20/29 one
I wonder how iwata Revolution HP-CR3 (with 0.3 mm nozzle) compares to the Eclipse. Where it will go on your list?
4:48 what the entire FUCK happened with that S? i dont know much about airbrushed but i would be furious if that happened with a $250 brush. could you imagine if that happened when your were 20+ hours into that painting??? i would be so angry i would throw that airbursh through as many walls as was in front of me.
Very good review, I totally agree with the comments for all the airbrushes that I own or that I could get my hands on to review (I never tried the Iwata Microns, neither the new H&S Ultra 2024, and never used extensively a Badger Sotar).
Personally for the way my setup is, the Iwata Revolution or the Eclipse (I've tried them and love them, but don't own them) would not be so great because they do'nt have a mac valve, and an air control valve is usefull for me as my compressor is in another room. I don't like some aftermarket air valve under the airbrush as I don't find them confortable, so I like the H&S concept of the fPc valve (I have bought one for each of my 3 H&S airbrushes). I too rank the Evolution and particulary the Infinity quite low because of the bad trigger design. And my Creos 289, that I bought without thinking much about it after seeing one of your videos was truely a great surprise... I love it, and it is my go to airbrush now.
how great is the 289?! creos is one of the best. And pretty much all of them have mac valves so it's sounds perfect for you.
My favorite airbrush for modeling railroad is my Badger 155 Anthem I use for acrylic paints. For lacquer and enamel paints I use my Harbor Freight Chinese .3mm airbrush. Harbor Freight 1/5 HP compressor and I have an 8 gallon compressor if the need arises. I figured that the lacquer & enamel paints need to be atomized more than acrylic so .5mm for acrylics and .3mm for lacquer/enamel. However, I did use the Badger to repaint my 1925 Coleman stove. I'm no artist and don't really use it like you do. Great artist with an airbrush. Your copies look just like the original. I may have to give it a try. Cheers from eastern TN
Nice video! Thanks for producing such high quality review. Looking forward to see you to review Tamiya 74537 / 74514 airbrush, both are manufactured by Rich Pen Japan
thanks! Yes, I have to get to Rich Pen. Heard many great things about them
Hey bud, thank you for such a rad video.
I’m a novice mini painter interested in getting a better airbrush. I picked up the Youfu one that come with a mini compressor and it’s ok for base coating, but I’d like to up my game a bit. My local store sells the eclipse, would you recommend that for someone in my position, or would the Ultra be a better choice?
Also, I’d love to see a video with you trying some of the miniature acrylics paints; vallejo, citadel, etc.
thank you much and keep it up!
Thanks for the awesome vid. Fyi- Paasche offers a .10 needle. Never used one this small but it's out there.
do they?! I didn't know that. Thanks!
I AGREE THE IWATA ECLPSE IS ALL AROUND AIRBRUSH WHAT YOU FORGOT TO SAY IS THAT THE ECLIPSE IS A WAYHORSE I MEAN IT TAKES A BEATING AND KEEPS ON AND ON !!! GREAT VIDEO
I was about to give up on the Infinity, but the fix over at Dredd FX channel cost a couple bucks and takes minutes to implement. It makes the trigger response dead on point.
The best airbrush is the one that you feel comfortable and at ease with like an extension of your hand. One that you do not need to think about while using. It may be plain or cheap and expensive and fancy. Only the user can determine that. Thanks for your videos... most informative.
love this! very well said.
Beautiful collection! I do agreed with everything you said about the Iwata microns as well as the Creos 771, that one is a magnificent airbrush for a super cheap price, (compared with the microns). I do not own any H&S or Badger airbrushes so I can't comment on those. But I think any Japanese airbrush will perform really well do to their quality control! Great helpful review! Thanks!!!!
Thanks so much! not sure how they can sell that 771 for such a low price with that quality- a fantastic airbrush
Evolution; sotar 20/20; patriot
Hi Mark, I was just doing research for buying an airbrush and stumbled across your video.
I just got started airbrushing scale models a few months back, so started off with a cheapo Chinese brush to just learn the basics.
I’m now ready to move up to a better model and am torn between the H&S Ultra 2024 and the Iwata Revolution HP-CR3, so was pretty happy to see both of these in your top ten.
I hear that the Ultra 2024 is aimed at the beginner, so would this be a better choice for me over the Revolution?
Keep up the great videos.
oh man those are 2 really great airbrushes in my opinion. I'd be happy with either one. For models and starting out, I think the ultra 24 might be a better choice because those features can be very helpful. For what I do, I prefer the revolution. Again, you can't go wrong with either!
Great review and information. Two airbrushes to consider are the Richpen Phoenix Mojo by Mike Learn and the Olympos HP100SB. Both are close competitors to the Micron. The Richpen Mojo is a bit pricey, but worth it IMO. The Olympos HP100sb is about $100 and close in performance to the Micron. Thanks for all your videos.
thanks- i absolutely need to check out Richpen. I've heard nothing but great things and they look awesome. same goes for olympus!
Can't wait to see your review on the infinity 2024. They said the trigger was fixed so that's promising
me too! I can't wait to start working with it. Hopefully it ships out soon.
My number one from the ones I own if I had to start all over would be the iwata kustom hp-ch! Can do basically everything. Thanks for sharing. Great choices!
I loved that Iwata Kustom line! Awesome airbrushes- Wish they still producing them.
hey mark, what are your thoughts on the green coluor plastic airbrush handle that you can buy for more ergonomic grip , i putted that on sotar and hp b+ , and i think i does help with fatigue.. have u tried them?
that sounds like a great addition. I haven't used them because I'm so used to the standard feel, but anything that makes it more comfortable and helps with fatigue is a good thing in my book!
Definitely plus one on the mini painting suggestion, you'll get a lot of traction from those of us in the mini community. You're artwork is beautiful and i know i would love to see what you could do on a 3 dimensional object.
I appreciate it- thanks so much! I'm a big fan of the mini community. i've met so many miniature and scale modelers since starting this channel and they are awesome! a great community of people.
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I got the Iwata Eclipse Takumi Side Feed today. Just put the cup in and ran some air through it, no paint. Couldn't get the cup out to store it back in its case. I twisted and pulled and it just wouldn't come out. Then the cup came off the stem. The stem was still stuck in the airbrush! So I took a piece of an old cotton t-shirt and place it over the stem and got a pair of pliers to pull the stem out. Wouldn't budge. So I got some WD 40 and spray along the stem. Still wouldn't come out. Sent this piece of shit back for a refund.
the stem cracked?! that's awful. I would send that back too!! I haven't heard of that happening, but I'll keep an eye on mine to see if I notice anything with it. Where did you order it from?
Just wanted to share with you how’s much I liked your review. Also, that your set work is what defines jealous ❤. Very talented abs I love realism art. Good on you
Thanks so very much!
I use my eclipse most of the time since it's easy to clean. Even though my microns and 771 shoot better. But great video as always. Thanks
Great video. It gave me a lot to think about. I might look into the H&S Ultra. A top quality airbrush that won't break the bank. Thank you.
Great list out of my collection it's ps289, Iwata custom micron (very close to each other) and Passche Talon using the. 38 needle/nozzle the trigger is incredibly smooth and very responsive that's my top 3, I also have a Passche VL which is smooth and responsive for a cheaper brush and I have a badger patriot 105 which could easily slot in ahead of the VL and there's no need to mention my neoeco and masters garbage.
perfect top 3! I love the talon too.
Hey Mark, thank you very much for this video. It is very detailed and someone like me that is just starting out, really benefits from a video like this.
So happy to hear that and I'm glad it's helpful. Best of luck to you!!
289 and 771! Say no more.😁
no question about it!! awesome airbrushes
This channel is incredibly informative and helpful thanks for the content
I appreciate that. thanks!
Holy shit dude i subscribed because of the art alone in this video WOW you are fucking talented brother i will be tuning into your videos from now on
i appreciate that man- thank you!!
surprised the Grex did not make your list. Have used one for 2-3 years and find it very responsive.
There only reason is because I don't own one!! I'm sure it would be up there, because I've heard so many amazing things. I buy all the airbrushes so it gets expensive but I will 100% get to grex this year
I have owed a lot over the years. My list
1. Iwata HP-b plus
2. Neoeco NTC-SJ183
3. Evolution 2024 model
4. Iwata HP-CH plus
5. Iwata Revolution
I was trying to focus on the airbrushes, but I can't get over how good of a painter you are
hey thanks so much!
I did the upgrade to my Ultra with the Evo 24 trigger and spring. I use a .2 nozzle, fineline head with the Giraldez needle caps.
Without the cup its just the GOAT for detail (for me). There is no difference in performance to an Infinity, but the cup is entirely removable and it has no annoying cut out or a limiter. Insane brush
Thanks for this information. I am buying a pre-owned Iwata HP B plus. After your info on the nozzle, I'm concerned & I have some more questions about it. Would you mind if I ask you? Thank you!
Great paintings!!
Thanks so much. Please, ask anything you'd like! I'm happy to help in any way that I can.
@@theartworkshop Thanks so much! I received the pre-owned HP B plus & am trying to assess it right now. It does spray & put out paint. Doesn't seem as small a pattern as I had anticipated or the paint coming out as quickly, but I haven't done much yet. The handle was stuck but I got it. But, the needle isn't coming out and the guard at the tip is stuck to the head. The head is not stuck but I don't know about just taking it off!! It looks like someone may have used something on it & scratched it up.
I know about breaking down airbrushes & getting them going, but this is an IWATA! (My first one, I've wanted one forever!!!) And, after finding out from your video about the head situation and how it needs a special tool & everything I've been worried about what to do in handling it & probably needing to replace some parts and so, I wanted to ask you for your advice with it. Do I need to get one of those tools? It did not come with one.
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it!
@@CreativeHeart-jk1xr Congrats on your first Iwata! They are fantastic and that HP B should serve you well. It sounds like you are looking to replace the nozzle and the nozzle cap. Before you swap anything out, I would work with the airbrush for a few days or weeks to see if you can get comfortable using it. Generally when one of those parts is broken, you'll see bubbles in the cup and the airbrush will spray very little paint, if any at all. It sounds like the airbrush is spraying for you. which is a good sign. The only thing I usually replace on a used airbrush is the needle. See if you can get your airbrush to spray fine lines, dots, gradients (all that fun stuff). If you find out the nozzle is in fact damaged, Iwata sells a nozzle wrench that you can use to remove it and replace with a new one. The airbrush comes with a small spanner wrench to unscrew it as well, but maybe the original owner misplaced it. I'm sure you'll get it working. Hope this helps and best of luck to you!
Great channel and video! I usually have a Pashee Talon what would be a good airbrush to update to from that one?
I use them for miniature painting and even when I have the 3 needles for the talon I would like to get a more precise airbrush for the tinniest details.
thanks so much! The talon is a great airbrush. I really enjoy painting with it. You might like a detail airbrush for miniatures. The creos ps771 is awesome and so is the new Harder and Steenbeck Ultra with the .28. A new infinity is coming out soon, but I haven't tried it out yet. Hope this helps!
AB , used one for years
I’m stuck between the Ultra 2024 and Revolution for painting lures. I’ve been using a cheap Amazon brush for two years and looking to move up. Is it just a matter of finding the best deal between the two?
Oh man that's tough. Both are awesome. A cool thing about the ulltra 24 is that you can upgrade to smaller needle, nozzle, and air cap sizes if you want to turn the airbrush into a detail version. You can get awesome detail with the stock nozzle though.
@@theartworkshopI like to paint a lot of metallic paints so the larger nozzle is a benefit but my biggest complaint is trigger control. Sometimes it works beautifully and others you just keep pulling back waiting for paint to make its way out. I think I’ll follow my gut and go for the ultra.
@@LavalleeLures I know what you mean because some metallics can be a real pain. I just love the ultra 24. It really is such a cool airbrush with amazing control. I bet you'll love it as well.
I have the h&s ultra 2024 and it's a blast for miniature painting 👍🏻
I agree it's awesome!
And heres a fact. Double action is a marketing trick to sell you a cheap trigger that literally is missing parts to reduce costs. All those 10 ABs are double action and low cost product cheats.
I have an hp-b and an infinity. Tbh Infinity is 5 times better. My list would be 1)infinity, 2)eclypse, 3)hp-b
Have you tried the Reaper VEX? It's a Badger airbrush, even though it's branded by Reaper Miniatures. I had the Patriot before I got it and haven't used the Patriot since. You obviously know your stuff so I'd be interested in your opinion of it if you'd care to try it. Thanks for the awesome informative videos.
THE olympus airbush brand has come back, they opened a new factory a year ago.
many iwata airbrushes where olympus models.
On the Iwata Eclipse, what are the 2 letters stamped on the body following "JAPAN"?