I recently bought the H&S Evolution CR Plus 2024. All I can say is, I love it. Such a step up from my cheapo off Amazon, which served me well until the seals started to need replacing.
Definitely looking at replacing/upgrading from my Iwata Eclipse - partially cause I want to give myself something special and partially cause I've felt like I'm having some issues with the Eclipse - so this is super useful to watch
A very nice and informative video. A bit strange to cover the decade old infinity when they just released the new redesigned titanium one which is a completely new take on the infinity. Nowadays you would want a 2024 Titanium Infinity, not the old version. The new version is a completely new experience, it only shares the name and the visuals. For a FULL h&s buying guide i would recommend to include the new titanium infinity 2024 too. If you now buy the old one you would probably regret it, unless you get it a huge discount.
@@drakeangelheart yeah, unfortunately I made this video before they released the new one, not knowing it would be out so soon (my sources told me it wouldn't be until early 2025)
@@ModellingWeekly Oh, that's a good reason :) - i waited for that since the new Ultra, it was scheduled for late summer but got delayed until september. I think i got mine from the presale in the first week of october or so. Having used the old one for ages i can say the new version is absolutely amazing. It's really a complete new product.
I am a beginner, I was debating whether to buy the Ultra or the Evo as my first airbrush. I ended up purchasing the 2-in-1 Squidmar EVOLUTION 2024 CRplus 😄
Excellent review of the H&S options, I struggled with a £20 ‘airbrush’, a Sparmax and a Gaalheri before hitting on H&S. The Evolution CR+ has been a revelation and I wish there had been a review like this about 18 months ago. I have tried an Iwata Revolution which was good but didn’t quite hit the mark as the Evolution does. Ease of cleaning is markedly better with the Evolution, a sometimes overlooked factor.
@@NickAndrewsFaulkner indeed, ease of cleaning is a big factor going for the HS lineup that I didn't mention! I'm glad you liked the review, thanks so much for your comment and for watching!
Great video - I am waiting till my new Infinity CRplus 2024 arrives...it is just the price that went up a bit (280€ for single nozzle / 360 for dual nozzle setup). But the trigger is awesome now both in feel and accuracy...tested it with a friend that has it already - I had the old Ultra and Evo CR - both are unused now since I bought the Gunze Procon Boy 270, which is in my opinion much better then those - other then full stripping (due to traditional screw-in nozzle)
Hi! I bought my first Evo Silverline about 15 years ago and added another one to the stable some 5 years later and couldn't be happier. Running the older one with 0.4 needle for primers and clearcoats and the newer one with 0.15 for other work. Using limiter on the later one for fine work in 1:72. Two things though - you can replace the single barrel gasket for the -3 one without any problems. Also if you want more trigger resistance, there is a hack (piblished on YT) where you use barrel seals at the trigger.
Thank You for this helpful video. Since years I use the evolution and considered buying the infinity, but your lesson told me, that a gear aquirement syndrom doesn´t make me a better artist...
Had the older ultra. Swapped the aircap to a Evo horn cap, sprayed so much better (using waterbased acrylics) The bigger cup was hopeless, it popped of at the worst moments… Now i use Evo plus 2024. What a delight ✌️
I currently have three airbrushes at my bench, an Iwata HPCS, a Ghaaleri GHAD 68, and an Evolution CR Plus. My go to workhorse for the majority of my airbrushing is my Iwata. I love how easy it is to clean between colors with the wide bottom to the color cup. The Evolution has a buttery smooth trigger and sips air so during longer detail sessions my compressor isn't constantly running. I use the Ghaaleri for larger projects (it's a trigger airbrush) and have bee very impressed with how tight a patten I can get. Just work for me so far.
The BIG thing with an airbrush is it all really comes down to persinal choice, and of course what a persons financial situation is like, I own two Iwata and one Passche and a trigger operatec Tamiya airbrush, but if I could afford a H&S I would purchase, what works for one person may not work for another, but thanks for this very good review, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia, Les
@@lesthiele4921 oh totally, it's 100% up to personal preference. Harder make some great airbrushes, but for some people there's other brands they prefer, and that's totally fine!
Miniature wargaming painter here. I own two Evo CR-Plus airbrushes and an Infinity CR-Plus. I have to agree with your assessment of the Infinity. It's good for really fine detail, but the Evo can do everything else perfectly well. The Evo's are my daily workhorses(priming, painting, zenithal highlighting), while the Infinity gets used once in a blue moon (highlighting plasma glow, other OSL effects).
@@NecronautDrummer appreciate the insight! Same for me really, I use my Evo for the majority of my day to day spraying, with the infinity reserved for very specific jobs as you say. It's an amazing airbrush, but it's improvements over the Evo are very technical, so I think it's good people are aware of that
Cheers, helpful guide! I already have the Evolution, but this video was helpful in assuring me that I probably never need to upgrade to the Infinity - the Evo with 0.2 suits me for detail work as I've used airbrushes with trigger resistance adjustment and struggle with that feature tbh due to joint problems that make the higher resistance a bit painful after a while. I also have a basic Amazon airbrush with 0.5 needle that I use for priming, base coating, varnishing etc. Being able to easily swap between the two is a huge time-saver and both together cost less than the Infinity. Can't deny the Infinity is a beautiful piece of kit, of course, but I don't think I'd ever do it justice - a bit like owning a supercar and only ever using it for my weekly supermarket run maybe? 😁
@@jamfjord very good analogy haha! From what it sounds like, I totally agree with what you're saying, and I'm glad the video could reinforce your stance on it! As you say, if the evolution is providing you with all you need and the perks that the infinity bring to the table don't seem attractive to you, then there's no need to upgrade - enjoy the Evo haha!
I use my Infinity Kyiv all the time. Still looks like brand new. The only thing that will stop me from using it is the imminent arrival of my 2024 Infinity :)
H&S airbrushes are great. Easy to disassemble, easy to maintain, no ultra small parts (nozzels etc) And the best part... Most parts fit's other H&S airbrushes. And i Had the Infinity CR 2 in 1. Bought it together with a Evolution Silverline2 in 1. They do the exact same job, and i quickly realized, that i wasn't using the Infinity, at all. So i sold it.
I have the HS Infinity CR plus and it is amazing....when it works. Maybe its because I generally use the .15 needle in it, but the brush is incredibly fussy. And believe me, I clean the crap out of it after every use. On the other hand, my Iwata HP-CS is almost bullet proof. The Iwata is a stolidly reliable family sedan, while the HS is an awesome but unreliable classic sports car.
@@raifevesra581 that's a very good analysis! The infinity is a fantastic tool, but because of the insane precision it can be temperamental as you say. This is part of the reason why I rank the evolution CRPlus overall as a better choice for some people
Totally disagree your comment on the ultra 2024 trigger. It's a principle to press the trigger before pulling back, otherwise the paint will stay on the needle and the cap, which will cause clogs or spray paint drops, especially on acrylic paint. The design is very helpful to prevent that for beginners
@@yanlinwu2429 totally valid point of view there :) I just dislike it there because it essentially limits flexibility. It's like an automatic car Vs manual - sure the manual requires more skill to use correctly, but it allows for more flexibility than the limited functionality that the ultra 2024 trigger provides. As I mentioned in the video, I often pull the trigger back without compressing during the cleaning process, to draw some cleaner back into the barrel packing just to loosen it up. Wouldn't be possible with the new ultra. Obviously that's not a concern for everyone, in my opinion it's just an unnecessary feature that doesn't correlate with any other mainstream AB - would confuse a beginner when they upgrade and their ab works differently
It depand. s on what you are airbrushing. For gundam painter like me, it is almost impossible to entirely avoid pulling trigger back without pressing when there are 200+ in most cases. This design really helps a lot. Also it can help the beginner to form the muscle memory before migrating to general airbrushes.
The last video I saw from H&S, many months ago, Warwick was promising (soon) the much anticipated ‘Infinity’ 2024. Well, we only have four months to go before 2025! H&S are cutting it fine.
@@simonmowatt I can definitely try to help figure it out - air leakages could be coming from a number of places, do you know roughly where the leak is coming from? My first thought is that it could either be gasket related, supply hose related, or possibly just a thread that isn't tightened properly.
@@ModellingWeekly Definitely not the hose as it works fine with other airbrushes - all threads appear to be tightened - it sounds like it comes from the trigger but I can't work out why.
@@simonmowatt that leads me to think that it's an issue with the air inlet gasket built into the airbrush. If you unscrew the hose, and then unscrew the collar just underneath the 'T' section of the airbrush body, you'll see a little threaded arrangement with an O-ring fitted around the valve that the trigger pushes down onto. If this is damaged, inflamed, or shrunken, then it could be the source of your problem. By the way, is the air leakage constant or only when you compress the trigger?
@@livefreeandhappy4892 yeah, but you'll probably never even use a gallon across your entire modelling career...that's like complaining about water being £1000 per 1000 metric tons, even though you regularly use just a fraction of that...
Very good video, and it helped me a lot in my decision making. But one think I didn't get, why would anyone throw 84 pounds after a beginner airbrush just to practice a few times before purchasing an expensive harder steenbeck Infinity airbrush, I mean can't you just practice with the final one? I do know that people in general echo each other a lot, statements they've heard other people say vill be passed on without thinking (human nature) but come on, give me break
@@michael_jacobsen good question! And the truth is it's up to personal preference. Some people may find that they're happy with using just an ultra for the first couple of years, and then taking the decision to spend a larger sum on the more advanced airbrushes once they've reached a point where they feel they need it. The bonus of this is that you'll then have two very nice airbrushes, one for precision work and another for general stuff like primers and varnishes!
@@ModellingWeekly Yes if your goal is to have two airbrushes then I buy your argument, but if not and you want one that can do precision work as well as priming work I don't see the need than to just buy the infinity and start learning by that one.
@@michael_jacobsen I totally get where you're coming from, and I'm sure there'll be people who dive straight into buying a top range airbrush, but as with any hobby there's a line of natural progression that most people follow in order to ease themselves into it all. For example, someone who has zero airbrushing experience may choose the ultra for a variety of reasons over the infinity, despite knowing full well that they'll buy the infinity in a few year's time. This could be because they want to get the feel for what harder is like as a brand, what makes a good airbrush, or simply budget at the time of starting. Owning and using a product further down the price scale to start off with also helps you appreciate and develop the need for the more advanced features. as I say this concept applies to any hobby - for example when I first started videography, just because I knew that one day i would want to buy a top range camera didn't mean that I bought one to start off with - largely due to budget and apprehension over whether or not I'd stick with the hobby! But yeah, overall there's a lot of different circumstances that beginners find themselves in, which is why I recommended the ultra as a good beginners pick, as it covers the majority of these circumstances
@@ModellingWeekly I do understand your point of view, but from my perspective I look at the total cost, If I already know from the beginning that I'm going to make models with fine details on them I really don't want to invest at first 84pounds and then after a few weeks after I've got the hang of it spend another 223pounds (307 pounds in total) when I could have just invested the 223 for the infinity. I think a lot of manufactures and retail companies use the trick of wanting to sell you the "beginner product" and the later the "mid tier product" and then finally the "professional". Of course they want you to buy as many of their products as possible. I can practice and learn just as well on an Infinity as I can on an Ultra. But as I mentioned I du also understand your argument in general and I du appreciate your videos which are great and I learn so much from you, so thanks for that and I'm sorry for my rant (just my nature)
@@michael_jacobsen nah don't worry at all man and I do understand what you're saying as I said, as I said it's just up to the individual what path they want to go down 👍
You never tell us what kinds of paint you typically spray--pretty important info missing. H&S's latest vdeos stress that the 2024 models have upgraded airflows specifically targeted at acrylic users. Any comment?
@@donmerz657 can't comment on any upgrades with acrylic paints on the 2024 models, however if they are genuinely better with acrylics then that's a point I missed! I spray exclusively with lacquers and tamiya acrylics (which are closer to lacquers in composition) so the performance of HS products should be uniform across all their offerings when spraying these sorts of paints :) hope this helps!
From my personal experience, Ultra doesn't worth any penny, at that price tag, you should go to another producer, par example Gaahleri or MR.PROCON BOY. H&S are overrated, in my opinion.
@@catalin-oprea if you don't get along with HS, that's totally fine! Some people prefer other brands :) I personally have had experience with a lot of HS products, and 3 of Gaahleri's products, and at that price bracket I do think that Harder is superior from a construction and quality standpoint, but if you don't, then that's fine!
@@ModellingWeekly I had H&S for 5 years, the quality of build is undoubtful very, very good. But they are hard to cleanup, the sealing of the Ultra is approximative - I always had to cleanup the back of the aerograph. I'm not complaining about the usage and result, but maintenance was killing me :)
@@catalin-oprea understandable :) the ultra is definitely one of the harder to maintain Airbrushes that HS produce, as it is a slightly more primitive design compared to later editions of the Evo. If it's not for you, there's no problem there! You do you :)
@@ModellingWeekly It is a fallacy to believe that you need a small needle nozzle for small detail work. See Rob of DredFX and Mark of The Art workshop. They show what can be done with the Ultra 24 with it`s 0.45 needle. I`ve chosen H&S airbrushes as my top of the range product whilst changing over to modern acrylics from enamels....... I`ve found ,so far that H&S are very fussy with using thinned acrylics and low psi for detail work and have had to think hard about thinners and flow enhancers. Bearing in mind, as a railway modeller (I`m on treatment) we don`t have a great choice of acrylics...I use Lifecolor, Railmatch, Humbrol GEN2....so far..... Procon Boy ps-270 (0.2) and ps-266(0.5) are more forgiving....
Hope you all find this handy!
I recently bought the H&S Evolution CR Plus 2024. All I can say is, I love it. Such a step up from my cheapo off Amazon, which served me well until the seals started to need replacing.
@@mikeyids the Evo is truly a fantastic bit of kit! Glad you're enjoying yours 👍
Your video was the final push I needed to pull the trigger on the 2on1 Evolution CR plus.
@@IZZFC7 you'll enjoy it! Have fun!
Definitely looking at replacing/upgrading from my Iwata Eclipse - partially cause I want to give myself something special and partially cause I've felt like I'm having some issues with the Eclipse - so this is super useful to watch
Everytime I spray with my iwata hpcs it always comes out grainy and never a neat line
A very nice and informative video. A bit strange to cover the decade old infinity when they just released the new redesigned titanium one which is a completely new take on the infinity. Nowadays you would want a 2024 Titanium Infinity, not the old version. The new version is a completely new experience, it only shares the name and the visuals. For a FULL h&s buying guide i would recommend to include the new titanium infinity 2024 too. If you now buy the old one you would probably regret it, unless you get it a huge discount.
@@drakeangelheart yeah, unfortunately I made this video before they released the new one, not knowing it would be out so soon (my sources told me it wouldn't be until early 2025)
@@ModellingWeekly Oh, that's a good reason :) - i waited for that since the new Ultra, it was scheduled for late summer but got delayed until september. I think i got mine from the presale in the first week of october or so. Having used the old one for ages i can say the new version is absolutely amazing. It's really a complete new product.
I am a beginner, I was debating whether to buy the Ultra or the Evo as my first airbrush. I ended up purchasing the 2-in-1 Squidmar EVOLUTION 2024 CRplus 😄
one of the best videos I've ever seen, well done.
@@62madmax1 I appreciate it! Thank you!
Excellent review of the H&S options, I struggled with a £20 ‘airbrush’, a Sparmax and a Gaalheri before hitting on H&S. The Evolution CR+ has been a revelation and I wish there had been a review like this about 18 months ago. I have tried an Iwata Revolution which was good but didn’t quite hit the mark as the Evolution does.
Ease of cleaning is markedly better with the Evolution, a sometimes overlooked factor.
@@NickAndrewsFaulkner indeed, ease of cleaning is a big factor going for the HS lineup that I didn't mention! I'm glad you liked the review, thanks so much for your comment and for watching!
Great video
- I am waiting till my new Infinity CRplus 2024 arrives...it is just the price that went up a bit (280€ for single nozzle / 360 for dual nozzle setup). But the trigger is awesome now both in feel and accuracy...tested it with a friend that has it already
- I had the old Ultra and Evo CR - both are unused now since I bought the Gunze Procon Boy 270, which is in my opinion much better then those - other then full stripping (due to traditional screw-in nozzle)
Hi! I bought my first Evo Silverline about 15 years ago and added another one to the stable some 5 years later and couldn't be happier. Running the older one with 0.4 needle for primers and clearcoats and the newer one with 0.15 for other work. Using limiter on the later one for fine work in 1:72.
Two things though - you can replace the single barrel gasket for the -3 one without any problems. Also if you want more trigger resistance, there is a hack (piblished on YT) where you use barrel seals at the trigger.
@@DoktorTomcat some very useful points there, and I appreciate the insight!
Thank You for this helpful video. Since years I use the evolution and considered buying the infinity, but your lesson told me, that a gear aquirement syndrom doesn´t make me a better artist...
Had the older ultra. Swapped the aircap to a Evo horn cap, sprayed so much better (using waterbased acrylics) The bigger cup was hopeless, it popped of at the worst moments…
Now i use Evo plus 2024. What a delight ✌️
I currently have three airbrushes at my bench, an Iwata HPCS, a Ghaaleri GHAD 68, and an Evolution CR Plus. My go to workhorse for the majority of my airbrushing is my Iwata. I love how easy it is to clean between colors with the wide bottom to the color cup. The Evolution has a buttery smooth trigger and sips air so during longer detail sessions my compressor isn't constantly running. I use the Ghaaleri for larger projects (it's a trigger airbrush) and have bee very impressed with how tight a patten I can get. Just work for me so far.
@@boblobla1611 fair play!
Thanks! Good timing because I've been looking at upgrading from my 7 year old Ultra. Looks like an evo cr plus may be on the shopping list
No problem! I can assure you won't regret it 😉
The BIG thing with an airbrush is it all really comes down to persinal choice, and of course what a persons financial situation is like, I own two Iwata and one Passche and a trigger operatec Tamiya airbrush, but if I could afford a H&S I would purchase, what works for one person may not work for another, but thanks for this very good review, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia, Les
@@lesthiele4921 oh totally, it's 100% up to personal preference. Harder make some great airbrushes, but for some people there's other brands they prefer, and that's totally fine!
Miniature wargaming painter here. I own two Evo CR-Plus airbrushes and an Infinity CR-Plus. I have to agree with your assessment of the Infinity. It's good for really fine detail, but the Evo can do everything else perfectly well. The Evo's are my daily workhorses(priming, painting, zenithal highlighting), while the Infinity gets used once in a blue moon (highlighting plasma glow, other OSL effects).
@@NecronautDrummer appreciate the insight! Same for me really, I use my Evo for the majority of my day to day spraying, with the infinity reserved for very specific jobs as you say. It's an amazing airbrush, but it's improvements over the Evo are very technical, so I think it's good people are aware of that
Cheers, helpful guide! I already have the Evolution, but this video was helpful in assuring me that I probably never need to upgrade to the Infinity - the Evo with 0.2 suits me for detail work as I've used airbrushes with trigger resistance adjustment and struggle with that feature tbh due to joint problems that make the higher resistance a bit painful after a while. I also have a basic Amazon airbrush with 0.5 needle that I use for priming, base coating, varnishing etc. Being able to easily swap between the two is a huge time-saver and both together cost less than the Infinity. Can't deny the Infinity is a beautiful piece of kit, of course, but I don't think I'd ever do it justice - a bit like owning a supercar and only ever using it for my weekly supermarket run maybe? 😁
@@jamfjord very good analogy haha! From what it sounds like, I totally agree with what you're saying, and I'm glad the video could reinforce your stance on it! As you say, if the evolution is providing you with all you need and the perks that the infinity bring to the table don't seem attractive to you, then there's no need to upgrade - enjoy the Evo haha!
@@ModellingWeekly thanks, I love my Evo! Thank you for the videos too, very helpful!
I have all of these h&s's and my 8 year old iwata eclipse is still my daily driver and go to for most projects.
I have the Ultra and Infinity, by far the best air brushes I have ever owned.
They are definitely gems :)
I bought the Infinity CR+ a couple of years ago. Best airbrush I have ever owned - bar none.
Fantastic piece of kit without a doubt
Even better with the ‘Dred-Fx’ trigger modification..
Trouble with the Infinity is that it is too beautiful to actually use.
@@TheWGLOVER very true!! 😂😂
I use my Infinity Kyiv all the time. Still looks like brand new. The only thing that will stop me from using it is the imminent arrival of my 2024 Infinity :)
Great information, thanks for sharing!
definitely food for thought
@@ModelMinutes indeed!
Great review!!!! Thanks for sharing
@@michaelhintzmikesminiature1812 no problem!
H&S airbrushes are great.
Easy to disassemble, easy to maintain, no ultra small parts (nozzels etc)
And the best part... Most parts fit's other H&S airbrushes.
And i Had the Infinity CR 2 in 1.
Bought it together with a Evolution Silverline2 in 1.
They do the exact same job, and i quickly realized, that i wasn't using the Infinity, at all. So i sold it.
@@x3mperformace very fair play!
Nice video review, thanks 👍
@@SprueFascinationChannel no worries!
Good information, thank you.
@@lyleslaton3086 no worries!
I have the HS Infinity CR plus and it is amazing....when it works. Maybe its because I generally use the .15 needle in it, but the brush is incredibly fussy. And believe me, I clean the crap out of it after every use. On the other hand, my Iwata HP-CS is almost bullet proof. The Iwata is a stolidly reliable family sedan, while the HS is an awesome but unreliable classic sports car.
@@raifevesra581 that's a very good analysis! The infinity is a fantastic tool, but because of the insane precision it can be temperamental as you say. This is part of the reason why I rank the evolution CRPlus overall as a better choice for some people
Totally disagree your comment on the ultra 2024 trigger. It's a principle to press the trigger before pulling back, otherwise the paint will stay on the needle and the cap, which will cause clogs or spray paint drops, especially on acrylic paint. The design is very helpful to prevent that for beginners
@@yanlinwu2429 totally valid point of view there :) I just dislike it there because it essentially limits flexibility. It's like an automatic car Vs manual - sure the manual requires more skill to use correctly, but it allows for more flexibility than the limited functionality that the ultra 2024 trigger provides. As I mentioned in the video, I often pull the trigger back without compressing during the cleaning process, to draw some cleaner back into the barrel packing just to loosen it up. Wouldn't be possible with the new ultra. Obviously that's not a concern for everyone, in my opinion it's just an unnecessary feature that doesn't correlate with any other mainstream AB - would confuse a beginner when they upgrade and their ab works differently
It depand. s on what you are airbrushing. For gundam painter like me, it is almost impossible to entirely avoid pulling trigger back without pressing when there are 200+ in most cases. This design really helps a lot. Also it can help the beginner to form the muscle memory before migrating to general airbrushes.
The last video I saw from H&S, many months ago, Warwick was promising (soon) the much anticipated ‘Infinity’ 2024. Well, we only have four months to go before 2025! H&S are cutting it fine.
They for sure are haha! If they do manage it, I'd be super interested to see what they change...
Guys, it's literally releasing this month.
I had paint issues with my Infinity CR Plus, I could not figure it out and tried a deep clean and messed it up.
@@Poopster4U oh that sucks :(
@@ModellingWeekly I am goin to send it back and see if they can fix it.
@@Poopster4U sounds like a good course of action 👍
My Ultra (about two years old) has a very annoying air leakage that I can't seem to repair - any ideas of what it might be?
@@simonmowatt I can definitely try to help figure it out - air leakages could be coming from a number of places, do you know roughly where the leak is coming from? My first thought is that it could either be gasket related, supply hose related, or possibly just a thread that isn't tightened properly.
@@ModellingWeekly Definitely not the hose as it works fine with other airbrushes - all threads appear to be tightened - it sounds like it comes from the trigger but I can't work out why.
@@simonmowatt that leads me to think that it's an issue with the air inlet gasket built into the airbrush. If you unscrew the hose, and then unscrew the collar just underneath the 'T' section of the airbrush body, you'll see a little threaded arrangement with an O-ring fitted around the valve that the trigger pushes down onto. If this is damaged, inflamed, or shrunken, then it could be the source of your problem. By the way, is the air leakage constant or only when you compress the trigger?
I stopped buying model paints because I figured out those little bottles of 0.35/oz model paints cost about $1,000 per gallon. What a rip off !
@@livefreeandhappy4892 yeah, but you'll probably never even use a gallon across your entire modelling career...that's like complaining about water being £1000 per 1000 metric tons, even though you regularly use just a fraction of that...
@@ModellingWeekly That is why I go to the Gym every morning and shower there after my workout to save money
@@livefreeandhappy4892fair play 😂
I'm 60 years old, the best airbrush I've ever used is H&S
@@hammmodjabeer7278 indeed! You and I share viewpoints on that one haha
Maybe one day 😉👍
@@the-primered-thumb 😄
Very good video, and it helped me a lot in my decision making. But one think I didn't get, why would anyone throw 84 pounds after a beginner airbrush just to practice a few times before purchasing an expensive harder steenbeck Infinity airbrush, I mean can't you just practice with the final one? I do know that people in general echo each other a lot, statements they've heard other people say vill be passed on without thinking (human nature) but come on, give me break
@@michael_jacobsen good question! And the truth is it's up to personal preference. Some people may find that they're happy with using just an ultra for the first couple of years, and then taking the decision to spend a larger sum on the more advanced airbrushes once they've reached a point where they feel they need it. The bonus of this is that you'll then have two very nice airbrushes, one for precision work and another for general stuff like primers and varnishes!
@@ModellingWeekly Yes if your goal is to have two airbrushes then I buy your argument, but if not and you want one that can do precision work as well as priming work I don't see the need than to just buy the infinity and start learning by that one.
@@michael_jacobsen I totally get where you're coming from, and I'm sure there'll be people who dive straight into buying a top range airbrush, but as with any hobby there's a line of natural progression that most people follow in order to ease themselves into it all. For example, someone who has zero airbrushing experience may choose the ultra for a variety of reasons over the infinity, despite knowing full well that they'll buy the infinity in a few year's time. This could be because they want to get the feel for what harder is like as a brand, what makes a good airbrush, or simply budget at the time of starting. Owning and using a product further down the price scale to start off with also helps you appreciate and develop the need for the more advanced features. as I say this concept applies to any hobby - for example when I first started videography, just because I knew that one day i would want to buy a top range camera didn't mean that I bought one to start off with - largely due to budget and apprehension over whether or not I'd stick with the hobby! But yeah, overall there's a lot of different circumstances that beginners find themselves in, which is why I recommended the ultra as a good beginners pick, as it covers the majority of these circumstances
@@ModellingWeekly I do understand your point of view, but from my perspective I look at the total cost, If I already know from the beginning that I'm going to make models with fine details on them I really don't want to invest at first 84pounds and then after a few weeks after I've got the hang of it spend another 223pounds (307 pounds in total) when I could have just invested the 223 for the infinity. I think a lot of manufactures and retail companies use the trick of wanting to sell you the "beginner product" and the later the "mid tier product" and then finally the "professional". Of course they want you to buy as many of their products as possible. I can practice and learn just as well on an Infinity as I can on an Ultra. But as I mentioned I du also understand your argument in general and I du appreciate your videos which are great and I learn so much from you, so thanks for that and I'm sorry for my rant (just my nature)
@@michael_jacobsen nah don't worry at all man and I do understand what you're saying as I said, as I said it's just up to the individual what path they want to go down 👍
You never tell us what kinds of paint you typically spray--pretty important info missing. H&S's latest vdeos stress that the 2024 models have upgraded airflows specifically targeted at acrylic users. Any comment?
@@donmerz657 can't comment on any upgrades with acrylic paints on the 2024 models, however if they are genuinely better with acrylics then that's a point I missed! I spray exclusively with lacquers and tamiya acrylics (which are closer to lacquers in composition) so the performance of HS products should be uniform across all their offerings when spraying these sorts of paints :) hope this helps!
Noone needs to spend this much money on an AB. They are overpriced in today's market.
@@blueline308 I wouldn't say I agree with that at all, but if you don't want to spend that much then that's totally fine!
From my personal experience, Ultra doesn't worth any penny, at that price tag, you should go to another producer, par example Gaahleri or MR.PROCON BOY. H&S are overrated, in my opinion.
@@catalin-oprea if you don't get along with HS, that's totally fine! Some people prefer other brands :) I personally have had experience with a lot of HS products, and 3 of Gaahleri's products, and at that price bracket I do think that Harder is superior from a construction and quality standpoint, but if you don't, then that's fine!
@@ModellingWeekly I had H&S for 5 years, the quality of build is undoubtful very, very good. But they are hard to cleanup, the sealing of the Ultra is approximative - I always had to cleanup the back of the aerograph. I'm not complaining about the usage and result, but maintenance was killing me :)
@@catalin-oprea understandable :) the ultra is definitely one of the harder to maintain Airbrushes that HS produce, as it is a slightly more primitive design compared to later editions of the Evo. If it's not for you, there's no problem there! You do you :)
@@ModellingWeekly It is a fallacy to believe that you need a small needle nozzle for small detail work. See Rob of DredFX and Mark of The Art workshop. They show what can be done with the Ultra 24 with it`s 0.45 needle. I`ve chosen H&S airbrushes as my top of the range product whilst changing over to modern acrylics from enamels....... I`ve found ,so far that H&S are very fussy with using thinned acrylics and low psi for detail work and have had to think hard about thinners and flow enhancers. Bearing in mind, as a railway modeller (I`m on treatment) we don`t have a great choice of acrylics...I use Lifecolor, Railmatch, Humbrol GEN2....so far..... Procon Boy ps-270 (0.2) and ps-266(0.5) are more forgiving....