The glitchy video yesterday with Dilek trying to explain the ground balancing created lots of confusion. I still cannot find info on how to ground balance beast mode.
I was out 2 hours on multi, got a lot of coins but sounded just like this video. I only dug the loudest ones, will try single next time and hope the next update is better
I find beach mode works great in heavy iron I have pulled many old coins using Beach wet are dry doesn’t matter if I get a high tone one way with proper id I can almost guarantee a IHP are a silver dime I realize that you’re mostly jewelry but I also find the jewelry place permissions are old mixed in for me 78 inches and he invested and also like the bottle cap. This particular perm has a lot of old steel bottle caps because was vacation area from 1840s till now still very popular.
I am pretty new to the hobby and have learned so much from you. Up until now, I've only used multifrequency on the Legend, but your videos show me that's not optimal.. How do you decide which frequency to choose, when you are on single frequency? Do you have one that is the best in your opinion? Also, with changing single frequencies, how does that affect your level of sensitivity/gain? I do a lot of detecting in the woods, if that makes a difference. Thank you for all that you've taught me!
Try testing 10 random live dig targets, cycle through the frequencies and see which frequency hits the most targets. You will be surprised of the outcome. Each site will have a different optimal frequency on different hunts or different soil conditions. Every day is different. I will test a few targets during the hunt to tune the detector to the right frequency. I always have 28-30 sensitivity. Multi frequency cannot run at high sensitivity.
I have never hunted in perfect soil. I have not found a place where multi will outperform single. My friends and me have lots of hours on the Legend....we all use single frequency almost all the time!! Multi frequency is just too sparky....single frequency is awesome!!
Sorry for a bit of an off topic here (noob question alert) If you have, let's say, 12k gold ring it contains usually 50% of gold and around 50% of silver + maybe some copper or zync. Known fact is that in that case higher conductivity of silver dominates gold and you get higher VDI. On the other hand when ring is 24k (pure gold) VDI goes lower. My question is why iron, which is a very low conductor, masks (dominates) either gold or silver which both are higher conductors. Why it doesn't get other way around?
Iron leaches into the ground and forms a halo of superconductivity around the iron mass. Gold that is 12k could have half silver or copper. 12k yellow gold has copper and usually almost no silver. 12k white gold usually has silver and small amounts of copper. White gold is usually 14k. Copper and silver are both high conductors. Half alloyed with silver or half alloyed with copper almost the same conductivity. The shape, orientation in the ground , depth of the target, ground moisture and minerals or iron in the ground has a big influence on the VDI, much more influence than the metal composition of the target.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Thank you. So I'll assume that on the surface silver will mask iron since it's higher conductor and iron has no super conductive halo on the surface
What do you think using single frequency in iron I really like 15 it really smacks out targets but I am a old coin shooter so I am in a lot of old sites mix with a ton of modern
We unmask lots of coins in single frequency. Multi seems to make the detector run unstable while around other detectors too. We find lots of non ferrous targets in dense iron swith the Legend in single.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I got a beautiful sterling WW2 148 Ohio infintry over 12 grams of sterling for some reason I can’t figure out how to upload any pictures like I can on facebook I would like to you to see it if you get a moment look it up they are a reserve unit that been in every war except for the revolutionary war this particular squad were facing some of the best Japanese military had to offer protected the airfield s if you ever seen the movie Pacific you will have a idea of the brutal fighting and through the heavy fortifications of heavy machine guns there were many heroes in this squad there motto is I will do it very cool story of some of the bravest soldiers there was writing inside the ring that said s CK Grouse I was going to see if he was still alive or someone else in his family but to find out it was just the company that made the ring you can tell who ever lost it wore it a lot it’s worn as some one that wore it for a decade or more just like the 18k open face pocket watch the last of kin passed on in 2018 I found that beautiful gold PW in 2021 with the simplex you and I love that machine as much as my truck lol
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I wear that ring every were a huge chunk of silver I started to save my go again I sold most of it when it went for 2300 a gram a while back just like my silver I sold back when I it hit a record high at $75 dollars a oz that was over 20 years ago it hasn’t come close to that in a very long time i think the last time was at $50 a oz it hasn’t hit $20 in a long time I only sell my not so good silver coins and other items any rare coins and mint marks coins are safely put away for a emergency fund lol
I have. The livestream video where Dilek tries to explain how to ground balance the beast mode just made it that much more confusing, the most important parts of the video were missing. It is hard to find accurate info on the ground balancing the secondary setting in beast mode. I tried to figure it out today for about an hour in the test garden....I am still confused!!!! Beast mode is not deep in my soil!!
Thanks Jeremy for another informative video for those of us trying to learn this machine.
The glitchy video yesterday with Dilek trying to explain the ground balancing created lots of confusion. I still cannot find info on how to ground balance beast mode.
I was out 2 hours on multi, got a lot of coins but sounded just like this video. I only dug the loudest ones, will try single next time and hope the next update is better
Interesting insight into the new software version. I have to say, you dig really neat holes Jeremy!
Thanks!
Glad I got the ultra as my first seeing this video. I would have been all screwed up
15Khz sounding good 👍
15khz sounds awesome. We have had our best results with 15khz on the Legend....Multi has never done well in our soil.
How it compares to deus 2? Which one is better deeper etc?
I definitely prefer 15/40 kHz single versus mult frequency.
Good choice!
I find beach mode works great in heavy iron I have pulled many old coins using Beach wet are dry doesn’t matter if I get a high tone one way with proper id I can almost guarantee a IHP are a silver dime I realize that you’re mostly jewelry but I also find the jewelry place permissions are old mixed in for me 78 inches and he invested and also like the bottle cap. This particular perm has a lot of old steel bottle caps because was vacation area from 1840s till now still very popular.
Beach mode gets super crazy EMI around other detectors. Beach mode does not ground balance to soil. Beach mode has a very high TX gain.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak what’s TX gain
Transmit gain.
I am pretty new to the hobby and have learned so much from you. Up until now, I've only used multifrequency on the Legend, but your videos show me that's not optimal.. How do you decide which frequency to choose, when you are on single frequency? Do you have one that is the best in your opinion? Also, with changing single frequencies, how does that affect your level of sensitivity/gain? I do a lot of detecting in the woods, if that makes a difference. Thank you for all that you've taught me!
Try testing 10 random live dig targets, cycle through the frequencies and see which frequency hits the most targets. You will be surprised of the outcome. Each site will have a different optimal frequency on different hunts or different soil conditions. Every day is different. I will test a few targets during the hunt to tune the detector to the right frequency. I always have 28-30 sensitivity. Multi frequency cannot run at high sensitivity.
Jeremy, when would multi be the better option? Is there such a thing as perfect soil where multi would out perform single? Thank you.
I have never hunted in perfect soil. I have not found a place where multi will outperform single. My friends and me have lots of hours on the Legend....we all use single frequency almost all the time!! Multi frequency is just too sparky....single frequency is awesome!!
We do not hunt at the beach. Our beaches are a very long drive and are layered with magnetic black sands.
So wouldn't a simplex that shoots 12Khz be right on par then ?
Can you tell if there is a coin next to to iron with single modes
Not in any modes on any detector. You never know what you are about to dig up.
single always smacks harder than multi. Its always been like this with this machine , the deus's and nox's
Sorry for a bit of an off topic here (noob question alert)
If you have, let's say, 12k gold ring it contains usually 50% of gold and around 50% of silver + maybe some copper or zync. Known fact is that in that case higher conductivity of silver dominates gold and you get higher VDI. On the other hand when ring is 24k (pure gold) VDI goes lower.
My question is why iron, which is a very low conductor, masks (dominates) either gold or silver which both are higher conductors. Why it doesn't get other way around?
Iron leaches into the ground and forms a halo of superconductivity around the iron mass. Gold that is 12k could have half silver or copper. 12k yellow gold has copper and usually almost no silver. 12k white gold usually has silver and small amounts of copper. White gold is usually 14k. Copper and silver are both high conductors. Half alloyed with silver or half alloyed with copper almost the same conductivity. The shape, orientation in the ground , depth of the target, ground moisture and minerals or iron in the ground has a big influence on the VDI, much more influence than the metal composition of the target.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Thank you. So I'll assume that on the surface silver will mask iron since it's higher conductor and iron has no super conductive halo on the surface
What do you think using single frequency in iron I really like 15 it really smacks out targets but I am a old coin shooter so I am in a lot of old sites mix with a ton of modern
We unmask lots of coins in single frequency. Multi seems to make the detector run unstable while around other detectors too. We find lots of non ferrous targets in dense iron swith the Legend in single.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak i will try more single frequency so in single frequency no iron filter s and other filters can be used
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I got a beautiful sterling WW2 148 Ohio infintry over 12 grams of sterling for some reason I can’t figure out how to upload any pictures like I can on facebook I would like to you to see it if you get a moment look it up they are a reserve unit that been in every war except for the revolutionary war this particular squad were facing some of the best Japanese military had to offer protected the airfield s if you ever seen the movie Pacific you will have a idea of the brutal fighting and through the heavy fortifications of heavy machine guns there were many heroes in this squad there motto is I will do it very cool story of some of the bravest soldiers there was writing inside the ring that said s CK Grouse I was going to see if he was still alive or someone else in his family but to find out it was just the company that made the ring you can tell who ever lost it wore it a lot it’s worn as some one that wore it for a decade or more just like the 18k open face pocket watch the last of kin passed on in 2018 I found that beautiful gold PW in 2021 with the simplex you and I love that machine as much as my truck lol
@@PaystreakSuperfreak I wear that ring every were a huge chunk of silver I started to save my go again I sold most of it when it went for 2300 a gram a while back just like my silver I sold back when I it hit a record high at $75 dollars a oz that was over 20 years ago it hasn’t come close to that in a very long time i think the last time was at $50 a oz it hasn’t hit $20 in a long time I only sell my not so good silver coins and other items any rare coins and mint marks coins are safely put away for a emergency fund lol
My son goes MD with me and we have to be no more then 30 feet from one other
We get a lot of interference from each others detectors too. We learn how to tune them into each other.
I hate that kind of ground heavy clay I love that sanded soil
Have you tested the Beast Mode in Goldfield yet ?
I have. The livestream video where Dilek tries to explain how to ground balance the beast mode just made it that much more confusing, the most important parts of the video were missing. It is hard to find accurate info on the ground balancing the secondary setting in beast mode. I tried to figure it out today for about an hour in the test garden....I am still confused!!!! Beast mode is not deep in my soil!!
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Iffy found the same conclusion...
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Yes, the video was very confusing.
If you are to close to another person using the same machine it’s always going to be big time EMI
You can frequency shift if the detector has that option. Big coils are always problematic with EMI too.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak i did not know that with the big coils makes sense