Fuentes/Eric Striker inspired weeb with 145 IQ uses stories of ancient civilizations and ancestors, witchcraft accusations, lil Timmy and compsci expertise to debate Destiny on culture. Miyo tries to debate Destiny on music and culture ►ruclips.net/video/X2gXCeMnnus/видео.html Culture debate where Miyo convinced the host on the great replacement ►ruclips.net/video/OH-eDrmC_vA/видео.html
@@masondyfjxuw They do that themselves top kek Dude could just talk about how CRT has had an influence on certain school leaders, who due to CRT, have started to implement courses and classes on their perceived understanding of CRT. While their version of CRT isn't the academic one, it is something that has been bred out of CRT.
People identify as their ethnic identity over their national identity all the time. The majority of Asians ive met do not consider European Australians as their people lmaooooo. We are different. Do I look mongoloid to you?
And then the equally embarrassing question for comp sci about Assembly. That is something that will come up during the basic introductory course on computer architecture during first year.
@@ToveriJuri it was one of the first topics in my 10 grade computer and programming course... It is so basic that you should know it even if you are just adjacent to programmers..
@@aagh8714 My favorite part is when Odysseus got caught reading hentai and told the Cyclops his name was No Body, so when the cyclops tried to tell everyone, he just yelled, “Nobody is reading Hentai!”.
These historic debates infuriate me. So much misinformation holy shit. Why do creators like this guy always think they're experts on European history while making 5 mistakes in the opening statement alone?! How can anyone listen so someone who can't differentiate the fall of Rome with the shism of orthodoxy and the HRE?!
@@PuddingXXL FR he talks about how Greece is one of the first civilizations, then he uses that false point to talk about the classical period (when there were already other civilizations were already thousands of years older than Greece).
@@PuddingXXL Dunning-Kruger explains this. Imagine someone who literally knows nothing about anything. Every subject they've ever looked into they haven't looked past a surface level understanding of the subject. They will think they are the supreme expert in every field due to the DK effect.
“I’m writing bots for Runescape right now” is probably the closest to a true statement from 145+ IQ groyper. In reality he is copy pasting someone else script.
To be fair he wasn't totally wrong about this like he was with almost everything else. Founding fathers were clearly influenced by Roman and Greek history, architecture, philosophy, etc.
@@defer114 yeah, and he's not wrong that America is a sort of derivative of Roman culture, like you can see that once rome fell England and France took on some Roman qualities and sort of continued the culture in their own ways, then England became Britain and Britain founded the 13 colonies so it's not like his overall idea that America is a distant continuation of roman/European ideals is unfounded. But I just love how instead of laying all that out his 145 iq mind went to "but we have a senate" lmao
@@midget3048 Ya he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. As someone who studied history in college I almost had a seizure during his opening monologue. The official religion of the Roman Empire was judaism? He was wrong about a lot of his history and then he has to lie about reading Marcus Aurelius. People don't read shit like if they don't even know the very basics of ancient history.
@@defer114 Sorry to burst your bubble. Americans have less greco-roman blood and less greco-roman culture than nrothern africans and turks. Germanic and British ethnic groups dont have anything in common with romans.
It’s fair. They are a kind of ethnicity. They share a common cultural bond now as simpletons that habitually lie. Let them create a state among their own ilk (that ilk being separatist simpletons that habitually lie) and watch how quickly it makes post-civil war Somalia look like a first world utopia.
What's frustrating is that this guy thinks that Destiny is trying to back him into some corner, when he is only trying to organize his beliefs for him in a way so that they can actually have a debate and test the strength of what he actually stands for. He is painfully unequipped to debate anyone, let alone someone like Destiny.
It happens a lot to Destiny because he is making an attempt to really understand his opponents points and arguments. It’s why I like Destiny so much. So many debaters don’t take the time to understand their opponents points. Most people are quick to assume what the other persons stance is.
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He also stated the Judaism was the main religion before Constantine made Christianity mainstream, in reality Romans were mainly polytheistic, and they had their own bootleg versions of Greek deities. But the fact that he thought that Judaism was their main religion just tells you how ignorant he is of not only the succession of historical events but the WHOLE context behind, well, anything Roman.
This guys inability to answer a question is infuriating. He literally responds to every question with a long monologue about heroes and stories and shared history. It’s like his brain is looping over and over stuck on repeat.
@Hieronymus Bosch Actually I think the one thing he has is that he's pretty rhetorically effective. Destiny just knows how to shut down unsubstantiated bullshit. I think he's used those prepared speeches to steamroll lesser debaters, and it sounds good when he does it. Here he sounds like an ass because Destiny is pointing out the bullshit as it happens. By the 3rd or 4th time he restarts his prepared speech over again it's pretty easy to notice and it doesn't work any more. But if he'd had the opportunity to get through the whole thing all at once I don't think you'd notice unless you'd already picked up on it from a previous conversation. It would seem like he knocked it out of the park.
I get a bad feeling when people have selective empathy and this guy made my skin crawl. Can't say if he hides his powerlevel, but him being so concerned about future little Timmy while having no empathy at all for the groups of people "destroying the culture" ... yikes.
That's the type of speaking that's more suited to one of those extremely structured debates where each person gets 2 minutes to talk uninterrupted and then move onto the next person. Not a conversation where the opponent can immediately call you out and focus on a specific point.
145 IQ sir i've played in public places i walked bob dylan up on stage in 1975 im trained classically, im trained contemporaneously ive written multiple papers on ai (comsci major btw)
@@grizzdesu9732 I know every definition of every word in 7 different languages off from the T from my mind. I am a boy genius, I own 30 different companies and coins that went to the moon.
I feel that way for him and Brittany the host. But I don't think reading will ever help these people. Destiny showed how bad Miyo's information was all the way through this debate and yet all Brittany heard was Destiny was bullying Miyo. Her position didn't change at all based on incoming information. This I think is key to the whole extremists on both sides problem. I don't have a solution but I think part of the solution is to teach people how to think critically and make that a much more important part of their education.
He said he took a test when he was very young and got over 145, then got into a gifted school. Later he said he didn't take a test until 3 years ago. Then he said his brother took one and his mother assumed he got a similar iq. Then he said to get into the school you had to take an iq test. Just letting y'all know.
@@malachiholder351I've seen a reply similar on another comment. Want to check in and make sure you asked your brother if he got absolutely embarrassed by Destiny lmaoooo.
- Would you like ketchup with your fries? - That's a good question! The real foundations of all western culture can be traced back to our ancestors in ancient Rome and some times even ancient Greece. We've had many different civilizations since then but...
This guy is the embodiment of LBJ quote "If you can convince a lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give them somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Even more ironic is that the great works of Greco-Roman thought, The Republic, Elements, etc., were lost to the west until they were reintroduced to them by the Islamic caliphates of the east. The early polymaths learned Euclid with commentary by Khwarizmi...
It's funny because he was honest about it not being real at first but once he realized he could try to "own" Destiny on the TQ he kept saying that this is already a reality in our society
This dude's IQ is wayyyy higher than 145 there is no other way to explain how big brained he is and the fact that he is an expert in like every field imaginable
@@dandobrowolski5818 that's fucking dumb if two people speak french on TV I don't magically just assume they are plotting something. I don't even pay attention to people having english conversations in my vicinity.
@@dandobrowolski5818 if people speaking a language you don't understand makes you uncomfortable you should get therapy. It is not normal to be triggered like that.
Mayo is the epitome of the bullied kid finding solace in incel and NEET communities, stumbling upon /pol, and then making it his entire identity. What a legend lmao
@@Chippies278exactly bro, every time i wanted to have a conversation or debate with someone at school they would just do something like this and think they won the debate 😂
@@Chippies278No way that’s true. This debate was so basic that even I could refute him. How does he not know the difference between ethnicity and culture? Also I’d bring up how white people make up a majority of the population and are over represented in positions of power and in media
Rome had a religion where their Emperor would be added as a god to any nation's religion that they conquered. This is how Rome kept all the people they conquered relatively happy as they were allowed to keep their religion as long as they added the emperor as a god to their already polytheistic religion. This is why the Jews and Romans were at odds so much, Jews refused to add the emperor as a god to their religion as they were monotheistic, which was extremely unusual in the ancient world. Long story short, Roman's didn't like the Jews, and he is completely wrong about the Roman Empire being Jewish in any sort. But they did become Christian about 400 years after Christ. I think he was just lucky on that part as he was so wrong about the first point.
@@OneRedKraken LOL came to the comments to point that one out. He thinks the East vs West split of the Roman Empire was between the Jewish Holy Roman Empire and the Byzantines, because Constantine turned Christian maybe? ROFL
“Race has nothing to do with ethnicity” proceeds to talk about little Timmy being bullied for being white and how his ancestors were slave owners. Oh and whites people becoming the minority is bad. Nothing to do with race btw!
The white minority thing that these idiots are talking about is a actually infuriating. The stat itself says that whites will be a minority by 2050, but thats only if you combine literally every other racial group and even then the the percentage of white people by that time would be 49%. I’m tired of these idiots talking about how if white people aren’t more then half of the population then all American culture and systems of power would just fucking vanish or explode or something.
"Oh and whites people becoming the minority is bad." That's a tacit admission that minorities are being treated badly in this current society. You'd think they'd might want to change the system to protect minorities today.
@@IBTL1 it’s that the culture and institutions will be run by those who are very anti-America, or communist. Those who literally collectivize themselves, and call themselves “people of color”, are what you would mainly find being in charge of a lot of institutions, that will promote anti white discrimination. Destiny seems to have no understanding of such a situation, but he criticizes these people…the same people who collectivize under the POC label, I said above. In essence I think Destiny is incredibly being ignorant or selfish to not understand that his son, or his son’s children will have to be forced to follow the discriminatory standards that have now been hijacked by those who hate America. Now CRT. As much as people want to claim that critics are being overly simplistic with this topic, CRT was created by the original founders, as a way to condition minorities, specifically black people, to dismantle whiteness, or essentially discriminate against white people. Many of the founders are proudly communist today. The thing is, the “little Timmy” may sound silly, but there’s indeed a lot rhetoric being pushed in school that is anti white, and promotes more colored ideals that people who aren’t colored, will have to follow! Be it speech, music, ideas, literature, influences, or creativity! That’s wrong, that’s discriminatory, and being forced into one cultural pathway, is incredibly hypocritical, when we’re meant to be strictly “American”. Speaking Ebonics, listening to rap, or colored people of the past being your only influences, is not a healthy way of American life, it’s quite the polarizing, and discriminatory to white people, who had impacts and achievements also.
@@malbasedvalentine3210 So already you start of what your saying with something racist. You literally view being white as being American and for protecting America, while being a person of color as being un-American and for the destruction of America. As well the idea that people of color being in institutions automatically equals out to anti-white discrimination is unfounded and laughable. POC isn't a group with a singular mindset or mentality, its an umbrella term that can refer to hundreds of groups and different experiences. People of color all have different experiences to America and American culture compared to one another. For instance, Black people have a different cultural and social experience compared to Asian people, Asian people to Hispanic people, Hispanic people to Arabic people, and so on. SO the idea that all these varying groups unanimously came to the conclusion that the destruction of America is beneficial is incredibly dumb. As well CRT isn't about conditioning minorities or discrimination against white people. Its about understanding how white people as a a dominant social class creates a culture that prefers and benefits white people over people of color. Its also understanding how various institutions in America (legal, academic, medical, etc) have historically discriminated against various groups of people of color. Little Timmy as a concept is incredibly dumb and actually tone deaf. The idea that if white people become a minority then every other racial group would discriminate against them is ridiculous. The idea that institutionalized white discrimination is summed up to a white kid being bullied in school is so laughable and shows how made up this fear of institutionalized white racism is. Just say you dont like black people and stop trying to make it this grand conspiracy.
@@IBTL1 now with CRT, again you are only describing the cover of it. Not exactly what it entails, and what it’s original purpose was! This is not being taught as it should be, and instead is painted to colored people as victims, and while people as the evildoers. That’s not healthy, and it’s not fair to call every white person in past history, some evil person, who’s not accomplished achievements. The more helpful thing to say, is that mistakes were made, and incorporate that colored people in other countries are, and did the same things as whites. This would give a less one sided hitpiece, and actually be fair, because historically all races have enslaved others, even their own, conducted unsavory regulations, and murdered for greed/territory! Children will learn that humans are all flawed, despite who they ethically or racially, and it will derail for whoever becomes a minority. White people need to learn not to hate themselves, or their ancestors. Separate the things their ancestors did, with achievements that helped shape the world for the better! We have that ability, but I know it’s not the simple, because what you accuse me of “conspiracy” and discrimination, is precisely what educators are doing to children and young adults, by making them hate themselves, and their achievements!
"The separation between the Holy Roman empire and the bizantine empire". Oh yeah I totally remember how Charlemagne divided his empire between his two sons, Louis and Bizantinum. What the actual fuck.
@@robinbanks446 Thanks for "correcting" my silly historical joke that I used to illustrate how ignorant mayo is on real history by giving Charlemagne a son that he never had, that was incredibly welcome and not at all completely idiotic! Good luck on spell checking reddit posts!
People pretending to be programmers gets to me every single time. They think they can pull it off, but Destiny is legit correct - people with programming backgrounds can IMMEDIATELY tell, with absolute certainty, those who are faking.
@@autumneagle 100000000000000000%. I took over 10 yrs of piano lessons so I feel you there too. I'm not claiming to be a pro coder. I never really adapted my QBASIC expertise to the more modern object oriented stuff... I can write passable stuff in (for example) VisualBASIC in Excel, but am NOT proficient in it.... but STILL, when people start spitting out crap about things they have no clue about.... even my basic level experience starts screaming WHAT!!!!!!
@@MATCHLESS789As a scottish person working in the computing science field, I work alongside so many people that are shit hot at their specific field, but don't know jack shit about the theory behind what they do and replace every specialised word or explanation with "The thingy" that I'm genuinely scared that my university education will mean so little to me in ten years I'll just be the same 😅. Trust me, if you got to talk to the person in chage of resolving a technical issue you raised a ticket for, you'd probably throw just away your computer in disbelief.
@@danielrafferty4108 Most people who solve IT issues/tickets usually aren't computer scientists. Working in IT != Comp Sci People who got a comp sci degree who end up doing non comp sci degree related work in IT will forget a lot of their comp sci knowledge over time.
As a business school flunkie turned computer science flunkie, it pains me when people turn "I took a programming course once" into "I majored in computer science"
For someone who cares so much about history, this guy really doesn’t know anything about it. The Romans that he’s infatuated with were hugely multicultural, starting off by adopting local customs from other places in Italy and as they expanded, adopting traditions, weapons fighting styles, languages, etc. from the people around them. Gladiators are the easiest example of that, with each type of gladiator based on another culture’s fighting style, like Thracians or Iberians. Their swords were Spanish and their armor was Gallic. The Roman military was bilingual, speaking Latin and Greek, and was eventually full of Celtic/Germanic people. Their religion grew up alongside and was heavily influenced by other Mediterranean religions like those of the Greeks, Semites, etc. They certainly saw no greater “white” identity; they butchered and enslaved Gauls by the millions and endeavored to subjugate the Germans - one of Germany’s greatest national heroes, Arminius (the original Herman the German), became famous for RESISTING the Romans. The technological, organizational divide between the Mediterranean, Republican, largely NON-ARYAN Romans and the slightly more Aryan, barbarian Gauls living in their tribes was almost like that between the Europeans and Native Americans. While some Romans did work to expand citizenship to their subjugated peoples, they were also corrupt, exploitative, and ruthless. A legacy that’s a lot more complicated than he’d like to admit. And let’s not forget that Roman people adopted all kinds of cult traditions and religious beliefs from all over the world, especially the Middle East, like the worship of Mithras based on the Persian sun god Mithra, the various mysteries of high society types and Equestrian legionaries, the death cults developed by people like Pythagoras, and one weird little messianic religion based around a crucified Judean mystic. I think educating these kinds of people about the actual past might help them see where they’re wrong. He seems to care a lot about the past, and seeing that there’s NO historical precedent for any of his white nationalist ideas might make him understand he’s wrong.
They don't actually want to learn much about history. They even say Egyptians are "white" but would never accept an Egyptian today as a "white" person. The white nationalist view on history is the same as the 18-19th century racial pseudo history that "white" people created everything good in civilization.
Destiny's lack of history knowledge hurts him so much here. There were so many history dunks he could've used against this guy. I mean hell even the South Americans probably have more in common in European culture than Miyo. This guy might be so dumb he thinks that South Americans natively spoke Spanish and/or Portuguese... Destiny still won the debate but he had layups that he couldn't dunk this guy on with regards to history.
@@AxisZtv Yeah destiny super dropped the ball on the history especially how greek civilization was basically if not entirely copied from Egyptian civilization. Also not to mention Christianity is a middle eastern religion and all modern European countries have moved from original pagan European religions practices to Abrahamic religion which includes Judaism and Islam. Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Quran. Also the moron literally tried to say Jesus cared about race 🤣🤣. Yes the guy who healed the sick, spoke about peace and love, literally accepted prostitutes and all banished/downtrodden people, but he was against "race mixing"?
don't do the same error. Don't try to manipulate history to fit your narrative. Applying modern concept to the past is a big no no in History. My professor would give you 0 for saying stuff like this. The romans didn't even CONCEIVE the concept of multiculturalism. They did not "adopt" local customs. They conquered and exterminated everyone who didn't bow to THEIR customs. If they could, they adopted some secondary aspects of it, by coopting the local elites. But is FAAAR from "multiculutralism". They literaly WIPED OUT their enemies culture, like Carthaginian culture for exampe, because it was seen as a threat to the SUPERIORITY of Roman culture. Same reason why they persecuted christians for centuries (and jews). because they didn't want to submit their culture to the "roman superior culture" So stop talking about multiculturalism. Romans were imperialist, it's different., saying that they were multicultural is like saying that the British were "multiculutral" because they invaded India and they forced the indians to work and fight for them...that's multiculturalism?
Watching Britney grasp to try and save Mayo every time Destiny demolished him is hilarious. She has to try and save him because she's embarrassed that she was "red pilled" by this clown and if destiny continues to make him look ridiculous, she looks even worse for falling for his arguments. After this she just buried her head in the sand and tripled down into being a full on alt right reject.
It's not just alt righters lol Anime is just popular with lots of people, both Left and Right, IMO it's good that we can share some common ground together. It's something we could build on maybe.
Watch either innuendo studios' how to radicalize a normie, or The Kavernacle's videos on this. In short: fandoms are relatively tight and exclusive places of community, meaning these are places where people tend to find their only or dominant sense of community. This means that if the fandom - through either malicious infiltration or innocent social shifts - starts to adopt right-wing or extremist beliefs, members have the choice to quite their only place for social fulfillment or follow along with it. Some significant fraction will choose to follow along. This makes them really good places to recruit new nazis. This is the alt-right playbook. Find isolated, emotionally unfulfilled or underdeveloped people and shift them over to your side through blaming your actual enemies.
People identify as their ethnic identity over their national identity all the time. The majority of Asians ive met do not consider European Australians as their people lmaooooo. We are different. Do I look mongoloid to you? Destiny got bodied.
"you wanna give black people rights? wow, why cant we just have human rights, why do black people get special treatment" you can literally take the structure and mindset and recreate almost every altright talking point, its pretty sad lol
I know Destiny's history isn't the greatest, but he should have definitely called this guy out on the fact that Judaism was never the official religion of the Roman Empire.
Four minutes into the video and this guy is already doing the stupid Rome takes. Thinking that Rome was ever predominantly Jewish or that the Holy Roman Empire was actually the Western Empire shows this guy has zero understanding of what Rome was. He just looks at the maps and applies his ideas through the rough cultural osmosis most people get of what Rome was without any actual research.
Somehow the golden age of Islam didnt happen and scientific method was created in the 1600s.. dude literally didnt know about the Dark Ages or will probably blame immigrants on it..
Standard conservative thinking: some glorious bygone civilization that were Christians somehow, tradition good, ancient knowledge good, modern degeneracy ruining it all, blah, blah, blah
"Okay, so if pineapple and tomato are both fruits, can you give me an example of a fruit salad with tomato in it?" "Well Destiny, I'm glad you asked that cause there are so many fruit salads, dating all the way back to Rome. America has lost its way with fruit salads, throwing in all these vegetables that just don't share a history with all of these traditional Roman fruits." "That's great, can you answer the question though?" "I just answered the question Destiny, pay attention. I know you're trying to get me to say I hate brussel sprouts, nice try."
> 145 iq compsci AI genius > "what's the difference between an integral and a derivative" > maaaaaan i dont remember everything, that was so long ago oh my god im losing it
I scored very high in an official IQ test, but feel very dumb at the same time and sometimes have trouble understanding complex issues. I also debated people who had very high IQ and still had trouble formulating a coherent Argumentation. I know anecdotal evidence doesn't tell much, but in my Personal experience IQ tests are absolute trash at reflecting very important aspects of what I would consider as intelligent.
Take a shot everytime he responds with, "Heh, well it's funny...". He's like a AI that watched smug right wingers streamers and RUclips commenters and built a personality around it.
Honestly reminded me so much of that Jon Tron video with those mannerisms. The difference is you could see Jontron is a dumbass who fell into altright pipeline and he didn't claim otherwise but this guy is equally as idiotic yet thinks he's some sort of genius yet can't form reasonable arguments about any topic. He debates on a level of a middleschooler who learned some altright talking points on 4chan. And his history knowledge might be on the same level too.
Lmfao forreal. Weren't they the continuation of the original Roman empire after the western Roman empire fell or some shit like that if I remember correctly. Like we call it the byzantine empire but the people at that time called themselves Roman's. And the holy roman empire arose where the Western roman empire fell. Meaning if anything the holy roman empire split from the roman empire, since the byzantine empire was really just the remaining portion of the original roman empire. It's been a minute since I've read about the history of the romans so I may be confused. Edit: I said split when what I actually meant is hre was never the roman empire. It was a whole new empire.
On a charitable view he could just be referencing the fact that the coronation of Charlemagne by the Pope created a rift between the Frankish empire and the Byzantines.
@@Biblig I first thought he meant the orthodox shism way later on but nah he just wanted to associate himself with the "mah Roman ancestors" Argument. Would he have been a lombard fine but even then... It's like people believing that french people have a common decendancy from the Franks when in reality only a miniscule minority has actually traceable ancestors within the Franks. Nationalist will still proclaim that they're the descendants of the rebellious Franks tribe. Same goes for germanic tribes like the saxons. The founding myth of having roots in ancient empires is not a new talking point/strategy of the right wing however (the left as well). Hitler specifically tried to intertwine the germanic armenius myth with the idea that there was a unified Germany even back in the times of the Romans. Boils my blood honestly.
“Let me tell you a story about my totally real black friend who 100% exists and said this and why it proves without a doubt that white people are under attack, wait that’s not enough?” “What about this hypothetical that’s totally bearing out in reality everywhere and isn’t just me projecting about being bullied in high school?” “What do you mean it isn’t happening, haven’t you seen this RUclips video?!?!?!?” This guys meant to be the top of the crop? 145IQ btw.
This dude literally had "a friend" who was "an expert" or "studies this" in almost every field they talked about. This Miyo guy has amazing connections to all these brilliant thinkers and scholars, which is surprising because his conversation skills are straight garbage, and I would think those "experts" would typically prefer a higher caliber of conversationalist.
@@ChaseDPatrick Dude is literally an SJW. I find the left wing version of this guy just as annoying but this is hilarious. People like this are an unfortunate result of the internet. They are miserable and they spend all their time looking for things to be miserable about. I feel bad for him, honestly. Seems like he is an awkward kid and at some point he became consumed by online politics and now he is dedicated to being a firebrand personality in the right wing. I think he is probably a smart kid but society is in a weird place right now. Our technology and comfortable lifestyle has left a whole lot of people longing for some kind purpose and hyper-focusing on insignificant issues. I can't believe how many times he retreated to his concern over "Lil Timmy". It's kind of a paradox because he is complaining that minorities are all whining about their status in this country and that being a minority is not inherently bad but his biggest worry for the future is that white people will become an oppressed minority.
she’s literally getting red-pilled by the guy who claimed to be familiar with Alden’s Number… anyways, please don’t get your politics from online debates lmfao
No fucking way, you guys are trolling the shit out of me. This guy sounds wayyy older than the aldens number guy even when you account the age of that video
this was fucking hard to get through, but it's amazing that, at the 4-Hour mark, Miyo it's still willingly opening his mouth to reveal new and interesting topics that he doesn't know anything about
This debate is like an extended Beethoven Symphony Coda. Everything Miyo says is a flowery tension building lie pulling us to a strange distant alternate universe, and Destiny follows with a sharp, decisive, satisfying resolution back to reality
@@dandobrowolski5818 you mean everything? musician for "several years", written "several papers" in cs, age, political orientation and what they actually think ethnicity is? I know you are baiting and this is not supposed to be an hinest question, but just for the record in case someone reads.
This dude spoke like a teenager, "I went to a top 5 school", "I've read a lot of philosophy works", just generic bragging statements without substance..if you don't know the difference between binary and assembly... that's not terms brother.. that's basics
I hardly remember most of my education for my two years of comp sci before i switch majors, and i at least still remember that assembly and binary arent the same. I cant tell you details but i remember some basics ffs
Even I know assembly in this context is some kind of translation and I 'm so bad with computers, that I just give up on things, that don't work after restarting the computer.🤷♂️
@@notsure6222 "Assembly language" and binary are terms that barely even scratch the proverbial surface of CompSci. If this moron actually did go to college for CompSci he would answer Destiny without hesitation. It was dumb as fuck and as a CompSci Major I was cringing so hard.
Disagree, teaching people how to argue can (ideally) eventually lead them to seeing how flawed their logic actually is. Sooooo this may actually turn some Alt-righters
"Well, my ancestor's brother in law accused his wife of being a witch, and she wasn't a witch, she drowned." I haven't laughed like that in a long time. I almost feel bad for this guy.
The pre Christian faiths of the people of the British Isles were persecuted by Anglo Saxon's . If one of his ancestors was drowned for being a witch, even if she was not , that is real oppression. it scarred his line. That may be why he is so right wing now. I have family members who are dark and look Native but only identify as white. They spout all that horrible garbage this guy does. They were injured by colonialist control. So now he identify with the oppressor .
"i didnt know i was 145 iq until my mom told me as an adult and she said she didnt tell me earlier because she didnt want to embarrass my brother" how does this guy not realize how stupid this sounds lmao
I love how he talks about how great Rome was, while Rome was very lenient with giving citenzenship to foreigners compared to other ancient civilizations and it’s even seen as a reason for their succes
The romans conception of race was quite different. The only two races were roman and barbarian. The purpose of their racial understanding was to otherize non-roman citizens by labeling them barbarians. The "black people are worse than white people" type of racism came about when white europeans wanted to make up an explanation to justify enslaving black people, like 1000 years after Rome. Fucking weird, man.
@@gaby9009 this doesn’t really disprove what I said. It was easier to gain Roman citizenship than, for example, Athenean citizenship. And the granting of citizenship to conquered people by Rome is often seen as an important factor in their ‘snowball effect’
I really support Destiny's point about web cams in these debates. I want to see him squirm when Destiny turns his argument around with a simple "Have you even read that Op-Ed you just referenced?".
"The Romans were Jews before Constantine" Is this guy for real? The Romans literally BURNED down the Temple of Jerusalem and caused the second greatest diaspora lol, he doesnt even know his own bible...
Oh shit, I didn't expect him to actually have made up his background, but the fact that he doesn't know what Turing-complete means is an extremely bad sign.
When every single one of his rebuttals start with "Its interesting how..." or "Its funny how..." or "It only goes to show..." that is such a clear sign he found a trigger word to connect to his dialogue tree instead of listening to and engaging with the point at hand.
he could have at least said the roman catholic church or something. a lot of catholic stuff has vestigial roman stuff mixed in. Holy Roman Empire is too far of a stretch, everyone knows that.
@@Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate in my eyes it betrays a very shallow understanding of the history he claims to be so proud of. I really wish Destiny learned more history to catch these kinds of things
The “what is white culture/values” list he talked about is posted in /pol/ daily. You could have replaced this guy with anyone else from /pol/ and you’d hear the same exact stuff
@@od8401 lol i used to spend a lot of time there so yeah i know what it's like. You can tell he just memorized a bunch of talking points he read on 4chan and thats all he has going for him
Remember, the stupidity of a conversation is limited by the person involved so if your IQ is getting lower you must still be approaching his so you're still 150 or above.
Destiny is just trying to point out to the kid that he hasn’t REALLY given his positions much real thought, but this is either going over the kid’s head completely, which honestly wouldn’t be that hard to believe, or he really is a weasel. It’s kind of sad to watch really.
@@ashley-GX3 Tbh he kinda is a pathological liar or some shit. That or for some reason despite being a comp sci major, professional musician, or whatever else he's claimed, he knows nothing about anything he claims expertise in. I dunno what would be worse, that he is a washed up 31 year old pretending to be an expert, or that he's a teenager with politics and an understanding of them that is this god awful already.
@@ArmoredSoul1 He claims to be 31, just like he claims to be a professional musician with a genius level IQ. It's just some kid who's spent too much time in the wrong corners of the internet who lies to cover up his own deficiencies and create a fake aura of authority.
@@blackmage665 Yeah, Brittany is the pretty blonde host lady. But like I said, I've never seen her actually participate in debate. Apparently she's a right-leaning "centrist" according to what I'm reading.
1:56:39 “Truckers that make up 30% of the American workforce” Does this guy actually think 1 in 3 Americans are truckers? It’s actually 2.6% so I don’t know where he got that number.
This guy definitely has tried a small amount of a lot of things and then claims indepth knowledge. He's probably dipped into comp sci and knows enough about programming to piece together a solution from various sources. He's read a few philosophy books, enough to pass a test then forget about it. He fucked around with a few instruments and learned a few songs. He claims 145 IQ but he's probably referring either the Cattell III B test with or some simplified child's version which probably means nothing seeing as IQ changes with age. Through most of his life he's been the one-eyed man in the land of the blind and then suddenly, someone who knows about these topics can completely expose him.
From the sounds of things he's maybe taken a codecademy course or two and maybe done a to-do app tutorial. I would be shocked if it's much more than that. CS degree or not, you don't actually work as a serious dev without coming across the basic concepts Destiny brought up fairly early on.
I can see that as a possibility. Most developers I have worked with in the last 23 years are this way. There are a lot of coding schools online. I thought about taking one for the iOS and for droids to learn to program for both as major companies are doing this.
Irish potato farmers that were colonized by white Anglo-Saxon protestants. But apparentely we're better off for it based on what he says. America was literally a colony that rebelled, but apparently being a colony was great. I don't know why he has such an attachment with the founding fathers who clearly disagreed the with him about this.
Chances are his ancestors come from the same 15,000 Homo sapiens that most folks did in Africa, stop with this “guy dumb for identifying specific geographic area that his ancestors are from” and then identifying a geographic area based on a spot in a hypothetical ancestral timeline that is most convenient to you. Stop fighting dumb nonsense with the same dumb nonsense
@@danielburnham5325 you mean that it's wrong to use peoples logic against that? That just sounds like good argumentation, if their position is not internally consistent then it's not very good.
@@redcloudblackcloak5677 no because you aren’t pointing out the inconsistencies in the argument and what makes it a bad argument. You’re just validating bad logic patterns and winning debate-bro-logic arguments rather than adding anything to overall consciousness of discourse.
As a 45 year old white man who spent most of my elementary school years, in schools where I was in the minority, it was the best experience of my life and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
it's anecdotal/individual experience. Elementary school times is very basic, none of kids havet developed enough for anything too bad (unless they have serious mental issues, but even then, the receiving end is too young to comprehend), most psycho normies develop abuse in torturous ways in their teens, so late middle to high school times is the most ptsd-inducing, mainly because you're forced to be in the same place (school/summer camps/family/etc) with others, and later, prison style. Most people are lacking in empathy to men, so that's only exacerbating. In fact it's showing, when people are talking about some elementary school heckling or basic biggest kid from kindergarten stuff as the worst, usually it means they've had a fairly spoiled/lucky life.
I wanna give a little anecdote, I went to a majority latino and black school and in my PE class there was only one white kid and the girls there couldn't get enough of him. So if this hypothetical future where Little Timmy is the only white kid in class does come to pass he might end up becoming the classroom chad
@@jssbulldog definitely depends on if it's a good or bad classroom environment, but this occurs for plenty of different demographics, so idk why White people bring this up as if the same thing is not probable when a Muslim kid is the only Black person in a classroom full of Christian kids, etc etc
Yes, but if little Timmy is only able to choose from women that are a different race, his race will end with him. This may not be an issue for a lot of people, but for some people, the extinction of a specific race is not something to rejoice. Alternatively, little Timmy can also just be the social outcast because he's different and doesn't fit in with the other kids in his school. A lot of social circles end up racially self-segregated, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that Timmy will be lonely and depressed.
"Moderator" literally interjecting to argue for one side and allowing one of the sides to completely derail the conversation repeatedly and have 2x the amount of total time for debate that the other gets.
I fucking loved when this genius ai programmer couldn't explain integrals, derivatives, assembly code and turing completeness. But atleast he knew what an array is.
I have a CS degree and have worked in IT for over ten years but I could not remember what integrals and derivatives were without checking. Turing machine I kinda remember but I don't know if I could have explained it sufficiently on the spot.
@@TH32N1P3RJ32U2 yeah but the way I remember it is that a Turing complete language has to be able to do the same as a Turing machine so they are pretty much the same explanations
@@JOHNTIM212 I'm math/cs student. Doing complex ai programs and not knowing what derivative is bit weird. Like yes you can use deep learning libraries without knowing how they works but him bragging about his ai prowess without knowing what derivative is does show that you are presenting yourself as smarter than you are. It's not that hard to just slap some code using a deep learning library to get some okish results on easy problems. Not knowing on top of your head what turing completeness is kinda understandable, but you would expect to have some vague idea. But yea being few years out of school might make you forget it, but with his emphasis on how smart he is, you would expect atleast some sort of vague answer. Maybe you could chalk it up to nerves, but I expected bit more.
@@JOHNTIM212 But even saying what you just said, that Turing completeness means to be able to do any calculation that a Turing machine can do, would have demonstrated basic familiarity with the idea, even if he then wouldn't have been able to define a Turing machine in detail. He couldn't even say that, so the most plausible conclusion is he never took a single CS course.
The Greeks had some other great ideas, like homoeroticism and homosexuality. How did the Greeks have nationalism...when they weren't a nation in Ancient times lmao? In fact they weren't a nation until fairly recently. He should probably start by reading some basic history 101. Greek and Spanish culture were heavily influenced by Muslims and the Jews (they both have their own and still face some social and religious issues due to such.), but naturally he doesn't know that either. Slippery slope fallacies backed by elementary levels of historical and cultural understandings.
These people don't know anything about history except for lazy stereotypes and memes, basically whatever the lowest common denominator or pop-culture version of history is.
@@aleks-wy6uf Bro...just try a basic google search. There's mosques that have been in Greece for 600+ years LMAO. Ethnostate he says, meanwhile Greece was literally occupied by the Nazi's (if you were Greek you probably remember that right? my fiance's parents were literally there btw) and they exterminated like a 1/3rd of the population. As for your delusional and non backed homoerotic take, it's literally listed in famous literature and basic history...and featured front and center in one of Greece's most controversial ways of teaching...pederasty. Use the Greek you apparently know and please learn some basic history.
He was wrong, dead wrong even, but I think a surprising large amount of software engineers couldn't accurately define assembly language on the spot. They may tell you how high level code gets compiled down to assembly language and eventually binaries, but I don't think you'll usually hear a textbook answer.
I sometimes wonder if all of this is just a game that they play to have fun. Once I saw how blatant this guy was lying about his background, it's hard to take any part of his argument seriously.
I am just astounded by the fact that the host was supposedly "red-pilled" by Miyo yet she doesn't seem to question any of those views after 3 conversations that show that this guy is woefully incompetent and unprepared to have these kinds of debates on top of the fact that he tries to make things up on the fly. Does he think that he can just spout nonsense and Destiny will just let it slide or does he actually believe this twisted version of reality?
@@cameronurquhart2537 Alexander was a prominent student but certainly not the best, or in terms of intelectual achievement/role for future philosophical development, his most important one.
essentially any time someone goes further than 200 years or starts talking about European history you know they’re talking out of their ass or citing nitpicky obscure far right articles written by amateurs, since that’s more than what you learn in American high schools and none of these guys ever do their own solid research. Reminds me of the Christian with his wife who tried dunking on destiny by saying nationalism came from enlightenment thought which is what all the liberals extrapolate their ideology from (???).
“My mom told me my IQ was so high, she couldn’t tell me what it was, because my brother would get jealous.” Holy HELL, what’s more likely to be the case? She was telling the truth. She spared her son such embarrassment by withholding his IQ score. 😂
everyone who doesnt have an ancestor that was falsly accused of witchcraft and drowned should be kicked out of america, or something according to this guy.
We need to go back to our European roots of drowning witches. Feminism and diversity are made by witches so if we drowned them all we'd fix the country
Fuentes/Eric Striker inspired weeb with 145 IQ uses stories of ancient civilizations and ancestors, witchcraft accusations, lil Timmy and compsci expertise to debate Destiny on culture.
Miyo tries to debate Destiny on music and culture ►ruclips.net/video/X2gXCeMnnus/видео.html
Culture debate where Miyo convinced the host on the great replacement ►ruclips.net/video/OH-eDrmC_vA/видео.html
He's making weebs look bad 😔
bless you editor, this was a long one.
Its so easy to argue for his claims. But he fails to use any of them....
@@masondyfjxuw They do that themselves top kek
Dude could just talk about how CRT has had an influence on certain school leaders, who due to CRT, have started to implement courses and classes on their perceived understanding of CRT. While their version of CRT isn't the academic one, it is something that has been bred out of CRT.
If he actually had high IQ he would have played Among Us. The fact that he didn't is pretty sus.
Little Timmy tries to convince Destiny that he is not hypothetical
Best comment on here
+
fucking gold
Actually crying lol
People identify as their ethnic identity over their national identity all the time. The majority of Asians ive met do not consider European Australians as their people lmaooooo. We are different. Do I look mongoloid to you?
If Mayo is seriously the guy who redpilled Brittany, she's the low IQ person that he kept talking about.
Lmfao trueeeeee
Hunter stealing my comment. I'm suing
Ey yo! It's Hunter!
Which one is Brittany?
@@alansnyder9 the politically provoked woman
Lmao when this guy was rambling on at 15:30 and chatter said "OMEGALUL UNSKIPPABLE CUTSCENE", I felt that
the truest comment
True and real
"I'm a chemistry major"
"What's Hydrogen"
"FUUCK! I Used to know THiS!"
That's some serious brain rot if he just threw that out of his knowledge.
@@musicaleuphoria8699 especially with 145+ iq
And then the equally embarrassing question for comp sci about Assembly. That is something that will come up during the basic introductory course on computer architecture during first year.
@@ToveriJuri I didn't even notice that until I rewatched after starting com sci but your right. Literally in the first month of a required class
@@ToveriJuri it was one of the first topics in my 10 grade computer and programming course... It is so basic that you should know it even if you are just adjacent to programmers..
If he is so worried about losing his "romans and greeks" culture why did he choose to represent himself with art from japanese culture?
dont you remember that book of the odyssey where odysseus reads manga in his tent?
@@aagh8714 My favorite part is when Odysseus got caught reading hentai and told the Cyclops his name was No Body, so when the cyclops tried to tell everyone, he just yelled, “Nobody is reading Hentai!”.
Everyone knows Romans were weebs
Gotteeemmm
remember that time where Achilles activated his Hollow to defeat Hector and avenge his nakama Patroclus?
He's literally like an npc desperately trying to steer the dialogue back into a single branch that starts the main quest
This comment is underrated
He's like an npc in an old school text games where you had to type out the questions and it always gives you the same answer
Quest added...
SAVE LITTLE TIMMY
Damn dude you killed it
"It's not much, but it's honest work. But enough about that, we've been plagued by *5 wolves* as of late..."
Destiny honestly caused this guy to have an existential crisis, he unironically was living in a fantasy. Hope he can turn his life around.
lol broke his world
@@komlat253 Im pretty sure he is still delusional
These historic debates infuriate me. So much misinformation holy shit. Why do creators like this guy always think they're experts on European history while making 5 mistakes in the opening statement alone?! How can anyone listen so someone who can't differentiate the fall of Rome with the shism of orthodoxy and the HRE?!
@@PuddingXXL FR he talks about how Greece is one of the first civilizations, then he uses that false point to talk about the classical period (when there were already other civilizations were already thousands of years older than Greece).
@@PuddingXXL Dunning-Kruger explains this. Imagine someone who literally knows nothing about anything. Every subject they've ever looked into they haven't looked past a surface level understanding of the subject. They will think they are the supreme expert in every field due to the DK effect.
I’ve never seen a moderator on their phone for an entire 3+ hour debate only to then claim that she was redpilled by one of the participants
It seemed like she was trying to flirt with the guy at some points 🤣
"Women should be seen, not heard"
-based guy who is right in this case 🤣
Wait a minute the girl in the top right corner isn't a GIF?
Edit: 2:08:52 when I realized that she wasn't some random chick In a looping clip....
“I’m writing bots for Runescape right now” is probably the closest to a true statement from 145+ IQ groyper. In reality he is copy pasting someone else script.
It was funny af when she tried to pronounce apartheid
If this was the guy that redpilled brittany, she wasn't left wing in the first place
I believe it is. Why I think the whole thing was set up to begin with the lure impressionable people in.
Miyo is just a king.
I think/hope she’s being facetious. This is the same guy who fucking folds if you just say “como está” to him.
@Jason Simmons wait, Brittany? You mean Venti?
@@63Limar what the hell kind of hellscape is her twitter 😑
"The USA is a descendent of Rome because we also have a Senate" Beautiful.
To be fair he wasn't totally wrong about this like he was with almost everything else. Founding fathers were clearly influenced by Roman and Greek history, architecture, philosophy, etc.
@@defer114 yeah, and he's not wrong that America is a sort of derivative of Roman culture, like you can see that once rome fell England and France took on some Roman qualities and sort of continued the culture in their own ways, then England became Britain and Britain founded the 13 colonies so it's not like his overall idea that America is a distant continuation of roman/European ideals is unfounded. But I just love how instead of laying all that out his 145 iq mind went to "but we have a senate" lmao
@@midget3048 Ya he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. As someone who studied history in college I almost had a seizure during his opening monologue. The official religion of the Roman Empire was judaism? He was wrong about a lot of his history and then he has to lie about reading Marcus Aurelius. People don't read shit like if they don't even know the very basics of ancient history.
Ah yes the country that persecuted Italian immigrants for years........very roman
@@defer114 Sorry to burst your bubble. Americans have less greco-roman blood and less greco-roman culture than nrothern africans and turks. Germanic and British ethnic groups dont have anything in common with romans.
Damn. This guy is like a cringey 4Chan meme that’s gained sentience.
Topkek xD
Kek lmao cringe not based xD big chungus ***** ******** and that's why we need an ethno state
It’s fair. They are a kind of ethnicity. They share a common cultural bond now as simpletons that habitually lie. Let them create a state among their own ilk (that ilk being separatist simpletons that habitually lie) and watch how quickly it makes post-civil war Somalia look like a first world utopia.
Another one? How many of them are there?
@@WanderTheNomad Probably just about enough to create a failed city state engulfed in dumpster fires.
What's frustrating is that this guy thinks that Destiny is trying to back him into some corner, when he is only trying to organize his beliefs for him in a way so that they can actually have a debate and test the strength of what he actually stands for. He is painfully unequipped to debate anyone, let alone someone like Destiny.
Lol yea he's literally just asking to explain the very basics of his belief system
It happens a lot to Destiny because he is making an attempt to really understand his opponents points and arguments. It’s why I like Destiny so much. So many debaters don’t take the time to understand their opponents points. Most people are quick to assume what the other persons stance is.
No, Destiny was trying to get him to argue something that wasn't his initial argument that's called backing somebody in the corner.
@@musaandrews6990 That’s exactly the thinking that led him to not be able to even take his own position lol
@@WinkyDink huh???
"She wasn't, she drowned". Oh, that explains so much more than anything he could say.
@Draevon May the buoyancy of witches is not exactly cutting edge science, brother.
@Draevon May Build a bridge out of her!
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek I believe your irony detector is broken brother
It's like listening to a trainwreck.
@harteywh wait I upwanda got blipped out of existence then thanos snapped ... She didn't drown before that and turned her to a which is was more like old communist intelligence human guinne pigg expoermenrs to find the undeniable .. Go back and start with 2nd avenger movie and no fucking Round pay attention and get the details the So called witch that everyone taking about cause you boommers haven't caught out to the whole witch vs thanos viral talking points this side of the internet just heard and seen Wanda and tha os and there wedding break up and. Super power kids that hate witches that drow.n in the mcu a dor real life .. So have fun learning bout Marvel pase 3 withes of titan swimming drowning and the drama of g
This person can’t be older than 22. They’re the exact caricature of every edgelord /pol/ user in America.
But they have such a rich past. Musician and hgh IQ and stuff.
I heard he’s 18 but lies about being older
He said he was abt 30 💀
@@GrimlyYourshe doesn't even know 💀
@@bub7358 What about the HEROES and LEGENDS and CULTURE and CIVILISATIONS and HEROES and LEGENDS and CULTURE and CIVILISATIONS
"There wasn't a culture before the Romans that they returned to" - the Romans were literally obsessed with appropriating Greek culture into their own.
true! plus there were Roman purists who decried the adoption of Greek culture because it made Rome “weak” - remind you of anyone?
Rome really be like, let's just copy-paste their religion but change the names, no one will notice
Don't forget the Etruscans
Exactly^ Romans adopted cultural aspects from others centuries before they even remotely began dealing with the Greeks.
He also stated the Judaism was the main religion before Constantine made Christianity mainstream, in reality Romans were mainly polytheistic, and they had their own bootleg versions of Greek deities. But the fact that he thought that Judaism was their main religion just tells you how ignorant he is of not only the succession of historical events but the WHOLE context behind, well, anything Roman.
This Miyo guy is the perfect example of what happens to your brain when you only read the titles of online articles.
True
are we sure that he can read?
This guys inability to answer a question is infuriating. He literally responds to every question with a long monologue about heroes and stories and shared history. It’s like his brain is looping over and over stuck on repeat.
@Hieronymus Bosch Exactly.
@Hieronymus Bosch Actually I think the one thing he has is that he's pretty rhetorically effective. Destiny just knows how to shut down unsubstantiated bullshit. I think he's used those prepared speeches to steamroll lesser debaters, and it sounds good when he does it.
Here he sounds like an ass because Destiny is pointing out the bullshit as it happens. By the 3rd or 4th time he restarts his prepared speech over again it's pretty easy to notice and it doesn't work any more. But if he'd had the opportunity to get through the whole thing all at once I don't think you'd notice unless you'd already picked up on it from a previous conversation. It would seem like he knocked it out of the park.
hes an npc, what do you expect
I get a bad feeling when people have selective empathy and this guy made my skin crawl. Can't say if he hides his powerlevel, but him being so concerned about future little Timmy while having no empathy at all for the groups of people "destroying the culture" ... yikes.
That's the type of speaking that's more suited to one of those extremely structured debates where each person gets 2 minutes to talk uninterrupted and then move onto the next person. Not a conversation where the opponent can immediately call you out and focus on a specific point.
I’ve got the sneaking suspicion that Miyo got his compulsive lying from his mum who convinced him his “gifted” school was for those with a high IQ.
145 IQ sir i've played in public places i walked bob dylan up on stage in 1975 im trained classically, im trained contemporaneously ive written multiple papers on ai (comsci major btw)
@@grizzdesu9732 I know every definition of every word in 7 different languages off from the T from my mind. I am a boy genius, I own 30 different companies and coins that went to the moon.
@@elon1928 only the .02% would understand our lonely world
Lmfao 🤣 u r probably right 😂
@@grizzdesu9732 Shhhhh.
Your making me feel bad about myself.
There are rarely times I see people do so badly in a debate that I feel bad for them. This is one of them.
I don't feel bad, they need to open a fucking book and start reading.
You haven't seen anything. Look at the Southern vs the Serfs reviewed by Destiny. That was a real shit show
@@t-poison1731 we don't talk about that lol. Serf man fell asleep, that's all. he was too busy making other videos
@@t-poison1731 HAHAHAHA SO TRUE
I feel that way for him and Brittany the host. But I don't think reading will ever help these people. Destiny showed how bad Miyo's information was all the way through this debate and yet all Brittany heard was Destiny was bullying Miyo. Her position didn't change at all based on incoming information. This I think is key to the whole extremists on both sides problem. I don't have a solution but I think part of the solution is to teach people how to think critically and make that a much more important part of their education.
He said he took a test when he was very young and got over 145, then got into a gifted school. Later he said he didn't take a test until 3 years ago. Then he said his brother took one and his mother assumed he got a similar iq. Then he said to get into the school you had to take an iq test.
Just letting y'all know.
Didn't he say his IQ was just over 132 (the limit for some gifted school he supposedly went to) at first too.
This is sorta freaking me out because this actually happened to me except my mom lied to my brother to make him feel better lol.
@@malachiholder351I've seen a reply similar on another comment. Want to check in and make sure you asked your brother if he got absolutely embarrassed by Destiny lmaoooo.
Is it even possible to score that high?
Don’t forget that it was an IQ Test required to get into a PUBLIC school.
*destiny:*
any thought provoking question.
*rightwing weirdo:*
hmm good question..
4chan talking point.
WhaT dO yOu MEan I'm answering your question you just don't like the answer.
- Would you like ketchup with your fries?
- That's a good question! The real foundations of all western culture can be traced back to our ancestors in ancient Rome and some times even ancient Greece. We've had many different civilizations since then but...
@@seothis640
- would you like ketchup with your fries?
- well you see... The apple pie...
Bro this guy is like a chameleon. Whatever skill or career you want to be in he's done it. He's a programmer, musician, lawyer, and a weaboo.
And you can only choose one
But can't adequately explain any of them without going on a tangent about American culture regressing lmao
“Actually I only studied how each of these things relate to white supremacy”
Argument about culture? Long line of family witches. Checkmate
Johnny Sins without the ‘Sin’
This guy is the embodiment of LBJ quote "If you can convince a lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give them somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
I didn’t know Lebron James was such a smart guy.
@@Chickenchucker thats a new one lol
@@Chickenchucker lol Le Bron James
This is a great quote for tribalism generally.
@@Chickenchucker Le BJ?
I mist admit that when he said for the 15th time "We obviously have tradition, holidays, heroes..." i really felt it 😢. Such a great personality!
Don't forget the fucking "shared stories"
Santa Clause is american culture
I assume he means John Henry and Rockefeller
Love these white nationalists looking back fondly on the greeks and romans, not realising where the term latino even comes from.
Also not realizing that the Spanish speakers are far closer to Rome linguistically than english speakers
Americans not realising Europeans consider Romanised countries white.
And?
Even more ironic is that the great works of Greco-Roman thought, The Republic, Elements, etc., were lost to the west until they were reintroduced to them by the Islamic caliphates of the east. The early polymaths learned Euclid with commentary by Khwarizmi...
@@thecoloroctet1365 that's actually not entirely true. By the time they made contact math and language along with buildings were alreay a thing
The Timmy Question is fucking brilliant. I don't have an actual anecdote, so let me use an imaginary one.
"But tell me Destiny, what if nonwhites start treating whites as badly as I want to treat nonwhites; HMMMMMM!?!?!?"
@@IMatchoNation thinking emoji
It's funny because he was honest about it not being real at first but once he realized he could try to "own" Destiny on the TQ he kept saying that this is already a reality in our society
"Can we get a source that shows such an event is growing more common?"
"No, but I saw some RUclips videos where it was happening."
Bizarre.
“You talked for a minute, now it’s my turn to talk”
“Okay, make sure you cover apple pie again”
DEAD
This dude's IQ is wayyyy higher than 145 there is no other way to explain how big brained he is and the fact that he is an expert in like every field imaginable
40mins in and I’m amazed by how much this guy talks without actually saying anything. It’s wild.
Low key tired from so many words and nothing important said
20 minutes in, you've heard his entire argument. It's just over and over again
I know right. Im starting to think whats all the fuss is about this destiny dude!!!...
I was getting stressed with him not answering the very first question two times in a row
That's Destiny, alright.
I still can't get over the first talk where he said "two people spoke Spanish and it made me uncomfortable" and was dead serious.
@@dandobrowolski5818 Pffffffffff
@@dandobrowolski5818 that's fucking dumb if two people speak french on TV I don't magically just assume they are plotting something. I don't even pay attention to people having english conversations in my vicinity.
Modern American Conservatives fear the world outside of there reality.
@@dandobrowolski5818 that is not a typical response.
Get therapy
@@dandobrowolski5818 if people speaking a language you don't understand makes you uncomfortable you should get therapy.
It is not normal to be triggered like that.
Mayo is the epitome of the bullied kid finding solace in incel and NEET communities, stumbling upon /pol, and then making it his entire identity. What a legend lmao
He probably identifies as a Sigma male.
Just as all the cringe lefties Destiny hates... As a conservative... I hate this guy. He's a far right version of the NPC meme.
well it's true that very little is done against abuse, being a dude means even less empathy and less systematic help
I wouldnt call that legendary
you love those fake words huh?
you have to give him credit. he slips out of answering questions and back into his dialogue tree talking points so smoothly, so effortlessly
If he was against a less experienced person, he totally would have fooled them into thinking he was a master debater
Bro his memorized talking points are so smooth i almost want to believe him i have to give it to the kid 😂
@@Chippies278exactly bro, every time i wanted to have a conversation or debate with someone at school they would just do something like this and think they won the debate 😂
It’s smooth, to match his brain
@@Chippies278No way that’s true. This debate was so basic that even I could refute him. How does he not know the difference between ethnicity and culture? Also I’d bring up how white people make up a majority of the population and are over represented in positions of power and in media
Did this guy just say after paganism and before Christianity, the religion of the Roman empire was Judaism? Lmao
Yeah he did , guessing he failed in history class , wondering what he thinks about the war of 1812 lol
Yep. I was so confused
Rome had a religion where their Emperor would be added as a god to any nation's religion that they conquered.
This is how Rome kept all the people they conquered relatively happy as they were allowed to keep their religion as long as they added the emperor as a god to their already polytheistic religion.
This is why the Jews and Romans were at odds so much, Jews refused to add the emperor as a god to their religion as they were monotheistic, which was extremely unusual in the ancient world.
Long story short, Roman's didn't like the Jews, and he is completely wrong about the Roman Empire being Jewish in any sort.
But they did become Christian about 400 years after Christ. I think he was just lucky on that part as he was so wrong about the first point.
He just wanted to slip in the anti-semitism
@@OneRedKraken LOL came to the comments to point that one out. He thinks the East vs West split of the Roman Empire was between the Jewish Holy Roman Empire and the Byzantines, because Constantine turned Christian maybe? ROFL
“Race has nothing to do with ethnicity” proceeds to talk about little Timmy being bullied for being white and how his ancestors were slave owners. Oh and whites people becoming the minority is bad. Nothing to do with race btw!
The white minority thing that these idiots are talking about is a actually infuriating. The stat itself says that whites will be a minority by 2050, but thats only if you combine literally every other racial group and even then the the percentage of white people by that time would be 49%. I’m tired of these idiots talking about how if white people aren’t more then half of the population then all American culture and systems of power would just fucking vanish or explode or something.
"Oh and whites people becoming the minority is bad."
That's a tacit admission that minorities are being treated badly in this current society. You'd think they'd might want to change the system to protect minorities today.
@@IBTL1 it’s that the culture and institutions will be run by those who are very anti-America, or communist. Those who literally collectivize themselves, and call themselves “people of color”, are what you would mainly find being in charge of a lot of institutions, that will promote anti white discrimination.
Destiny seems to have no understanding of such a situation, but he criticizes these people…the same people who collectivize under the POC label, I said above. In essence I think Destiny is incredibly being ignorant or selfish to not understand that his son, or his son’s children will have to be forced to follow the discriminatory standards that have now been hijacked by those who hate America.
Now CRT. As much as people want to claim that critics are being overly simplistic with this topic, CRT was created by the original founders, as a way to condition minorities, specifically black people, to dismantle whiteness, or essentially discriminate against white people. Many of the founders are proudly communist today.
The thing is, the “little Timmy” may sound silly, but there’s indeed a lot rhetoric being pushed in school that is anti white, and promotes more colored ideals that people who aren’t colored, will have to follow! Be it speech, music, ideas, literature, influences, or creativity! That’s wrong, that’s discriminatory, and being forced into one cultural pathway, is incredibly hypocritical, when we’re meant to be strictly “American”. Speaking Ebonics, listening to rap, or colored people of the past being your only influences, is not a healthy way of American life, it’s quite the polarizing, and discriminatory to white people, who had impacts and achievements also.
@@malbasedvalentine3210 So already you start of what your saying with something racist. You literally view being white as being American and for protecting America, while being a person of color as being un-American and for the destruction of America. As well the idea that people of color being in institutions automatically equals out to anti-white discrimination is unfounded and laughable. POC isn't a group with a singular mindset or mentality, its an umbrella term that can refer to hundreds of groups and different experiences. People of color all have different experiences to America and American culture compared to one another. For instance, Black people have a different cultural and social experience compared to Asian people, Asian people to Hispanic people, Hispanic people to Arabic people, and so on. SO the idea that all these varying groups unanimously came to the conclusion that the destruction of America is beneficial is incredibly dumb. As well CRT isn't about conditioning minorities or discrimination against white people. Its about understanding how white people as a a dominant social class creates a culture that prefers and benefits white people over people of color. Its also understanding how various institutions in America (legal, academic, medical, etc) have historically discriminated against various groups of people of color. Little Timmy as a concept is incredibly dumb and actually tone deaf. The idea that if white people become a minority then every other racial group would discriminate against them is ridiculous. The idea that institutionalized white discrimination is summed up to a white kid being bullied in school is so laughable and shows how made up this fear of institutionalized white racism is. Just say you dont like black people and stop trying to make it this grand conspiracy.
@@IBTL1 now with CRT, again you are only describing the cover of it. Not exactly what it entails, and what it’s original purpose was! This is not being taught as it should be, and instead is painted to colored people as victims, and while people as the evildoers. That’s not healthy, and it’s not fair to call every white person in past history, some evil person, who’s not accomplished achievements.
The more helpful thing to say, is that mistakes were made, and incorporate that colored people in other countries are, and did the same things as whites. This would give a less one sided hitpiece, and actually be fair, because historically all races have enslaved others, even their own, conducted unsavory regulations, and murdered for greed/territory! Children will learn that humans are all flawed, despite who they ethically or racially, and it will derail for whoever becomes a minority.
White people need to learn not to hate themselves, or their ancestors. Separate the things their ancestors did, with achievements that helped shape the world for the better! We have that ability, but I know it’s not the simple, because what you accuse me of “conspiracy” and discrimination, is precisely what educators are doing to children and young adults, by making them hate themselves, and their achievements!
"The separation between the Holy Roman empire and the bizantine empire".
Oh yeah I totally remember how Charlemagne divided his empire between his two sons, Louis and Bizantinum.
What the actual fuck.
Byzantium bro
@@robinbanks446 Thanks for "correcting" my silly historical joke that I used to illustrate how ignorant mayo is on real history by giving Charlemagne a son that he never had, that was incredibly welcome and not at all completely idiotic!
Good luck on spell checking reddit posts!
@@sharkknight9564 Mayo* bro. It's a proper noun.
@@sharkknight9564 You’re welcome.
People pretending to be programmers gets to me every single time. They think they can pull it off, but Destiny is legit correct - people with programming backgrounds can IMMEDIATELY tell, with absolute certainty, those who are faking.
Same with fake "professional musicians" who don't even know what scales are
@@autumneagle 100000000000000000%. I took over 10 yrs of piano lessons so I feel you there too.
I'm not claiming to be a pro coder. I never really adapted my QBASIC expertise to the more modern object oriented stuff... I can write passable stuff in (for example) VisualBASIC in Excel, but am NOT proficient in it.... but STILL, when people start spitting out crap about things they have no clue about.... even my basic level experience starts screaming WHAT!!!!!!
@@autumneagleI don't know if that's comparable, there's genuinely shitload of professional musicians who don't know shit about music theory.
@@MATCHLESS789As a scottish person working in the computing science field, I work alongside so many people that are shit hot at their specific field, but don't know jack shit about the theory behind what they do and replace every specialised word or explanation with "The thingy" that I'm genuinely scared that my university education will mean so little to me in ten years I'll just be the same 😅. Trust me, if you got to talk to the person in chage of resolving a technical issue you raised a ticket for, you'd probably throw just away your computer in disbelief.
@@danielrafferty4108 Most people who solve IT issues/tickets usually aren't computer scientists.
Working in IT != Comp Sci
People who got a comp sci degree who end up doing non comp sci degree related work in IT will forget a lot of their comp sci knowledge over time.
Hearing someone so angry that someone isn't taking something called "the little Timmy question" seriously is so fucking funny
As a business school flunkie turned computer science flunkie, it pains me when people turn "I took a programming course once" into "I majored in computer science"
More like a "get started with programming" tutorial online....
As an copy and paste code expert I also agree
For someone who cares so much about history, this guy really doesn’t know anything about it.
The Romans that he’s infatuated with were hugely multicultural, starting off by adopting local customs from other places in Italy and as they expanded, adopting traditions, weapons fighting styles, languages, etc. from the people around them. Gladiators are the easiest example of that, with each type of gladiator based on another culture’s fighting style, like Thracians or Iberians. Their swords were Spanish and their armor was Gallic. The Roman military was bilingual, speaking Latin and Greek, and was eventually full of Celtic/Germanic people. Their religion grew up alongside and was heavily influenced by other Mediterranean religions like those of the Greeks, Semites, etc.
They certainly saw no greater “white” identity; they butchered and enslaved Gauls by the millions and endeavored to subjugate the Germans - one of Germany’s greatest national heroes, Arminius (the original Herman the German), became famous for RESISTING the Romans.
The technological, organizational divide between the Mediterranean, Republican, largely NON-ARYAN Romans and the slightly more Aryan, barbarian Gauls living in their tribes was almost like that between the Europeans and Native Americans. While some Romans did work to expand citizenship to their subjugated peoples, they were also corrupt, exploitative, and ruthless. A legacy that’s a lot more complicated than he’d like to admit.
And let’s not forget that Roman people adopted all kinds of cult traditions and religious beliefs from all over the world, especially the Middle East, like the worship of Mithras based on the Persian sun god Mithra, the various mysteries of high society types and Equestrian legionaries, the death cults developed by people like Pythagoras, and one weird little messianic religion based around a crucified Judean mystic.
I think educating these kinds of people about the actual past might help them see where they’re wrong. He seems to care a lot about the past, and seeing that there’s NO historical precedent for any of his white nationalist ideas might make him understand he’s wrong.
They don't actually want to learn much about history. They even say Egyptians are "white" but would never accept an Egyptian today as a "white" person. The white nationalist view on history is the same as the 18-19th century racial pseudo history that "white" people created everything good in civilization.
Destiny's lack of history knowledge hurts him so much here. There were so many history dunks he could've used against this guy. I mean hell even the South Americans probably have more in common in European culture than Miyo. This guy might be so dumb he thinks that South Americans natively spoke Spanish and/or Portuguese... Destiny still won the debate but he had layups that he couldn't dunk this guy on with regards to history.
@@AxisZtv Yeah destiny super dropped the ball on the history especially how greek civilization was basically if not entirely copied from Egyptian civilization. Also not to mention Christianity is a middle eastern religion and all modern European countries have moved from original pagan European religions practices to Abrahamic religion which includes Judaism and Islam. Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Quran. Also the moron literally tried to say Jesus cared about race 🤣🤣. Yes the guy who healed the sick, spoke about peace and love, literally accepted prostitutes and all banished/downtrodden people, but he was against "race mixing"?
I believe the typical alt right response to this would be something along the lines of "nuh-uh!".
don't do the same error. Don't try to manipulate history to fit your narrative.
Applying modern concept to the past is a big no no in History. My professor would give you 0 for saying stuff like this.
The romans didn't even CONCEIVE the concept of multiculturalism.
They did not "adopt" local customs. They conquered and exterminated everyone who didn't bow to THEIR customs. If they could, they adopted some secondary aspects of it, by coopting the local elites. But is FAAAR from "multiculutralism". They literaly WIPED OUT their enemies culture, like Carthaginian culture for exampe, because it was seen as a threat to the SUPERIORITY of Roman culture.
Same reason why they persecuted christians for centuries (and jews). because they didn't want to submit their culture to the "roman superior culture"
So stop talking about multiculturalism.
Romans were imperialist, it's different., saying that they were multicultural is like saying that the British were "multiculutral" because they invaded India and they forced the indians to work and fight for them...that's multiculturalism?
Watching Britney grasp to try and save Mayo every time Destiny demolished him is hilarious. She has to try and save him because she's embarrassed that she was "red pilled" by this clown and if destiny continues to make him look ridiculous, she looks even worse for falling for his arguments. After this she just buried her head in the sand and tripled down into being a full on alt right reject.
It’s sad, women will follow anyone that gives them attention, regardless of the facts
@@puffdaddy69stop
I'm 40 minutes in and this hasn't happened once
I know that correlation doesn’t equate causation...but what’s up with alt-righters and anime?
I swear weebs aren't all this bad man give us a chance
Probs has something to do with imperial Japan or somethin
@@masondyfjxuw I mean, if you set the bar at “not ALL of us are literal Neo Nazis”...
It's not just alt righters lol Anime is just popular with lots of people, both Left and Right, IMO it's good that we can share some common ground together. It's something we could build on maybe.
Watch either innuendo studios' how to radicalize a normie, or The Kavernacle's videos on this. In short: fandoms are relatively tight and exclusive places of community, meaning these are places where people tend to find their only or dominant sense of community. This means that if the fandom - through either malicious infiltration or innocent social shifts - starts to adopt right-wing or extremist beliefs, members have the choice to quite their only place for social fulfillment or follow along with it. Some significant fraction will choose to follow along. This makes them really good places to recruit new nazis.
This is the alt-right playbook. Find isolated, emotionally unfulfilled or underdeveloped people and shift them over to your side through blaming your actual enemies.
This debate was shorter than that 1v5 debate with Venti, Stillgray and others but managed to be more draining.
And that one was a lot funnier
@@charlieme2295 Him bullying Venti was S-Tier content
@@charlieme2295 tonka still top 1 destiny debate opponent for me
People identify as their ethnic identity over their national identity all the time. The majority of Asians ive met do not consider European Australians as their people lmaooooo. We are different. Do I look mongoloid to you? Destiny got bodied.
You can google in group racial preference. People Identify with their race/ethnic group over nationality all the time
I wasn't sure if this a Destiny video or a Gigguk video
Guy seemed really crusty, something Garnt would never allow.
Weebs can't stop winning AYAYA
I mean either way you watch for the cringe, right?
I thought gigguk uploaded two videos this time OMEGALUL
@@fjz4289 *Grant 😉
I think he misread, the iq results were 14.5 not 145
I lost it when he said he his mommy told him he was smart 😂
That's so rude 😭😭
1.45 actually. He got the “ your name” question wrong
"I'm just saying white people and black people can't be part of the same ethnicity, why you gotta bring race into this?"
"you wanna give black people rights? wow, why cant we just have human rights, why do black people get special treatment"
you can literally take the structure and mindset and recreate almost every altright talking point, its pretty sad lol
I know Destiny's history isn't the greatest, but he should have definitely called this guy out on the fact that Judaism was never the official religion of the Roman Empire.
I think he was talking about Ethiopia
@@tuntejaable No, this dude clearly said he thought the Roman Empire's official religion was Judaism.
@@michaelvanderwal7390 lool I was just joking. That would be the one country were his story would be true 🤣.
@@tuntejaable There was some khanate in the Caucasus that had Judaism as their official religion as well. Wild stuff.
Destiny probably didnt even know that, sadly
Four minutes into the video and this guy is already doing the stupid Rome takes.
Thinking that Rome was ever predominantly Jewish or that the Holy Roman Empire was actually the Western Empire shows this guy has zero understanding of what Rome was. He just looks at the maps and applies his ideas through the rough cultural osmosis most people get of what Rome was without any actual research.
Also apparently HRE predates the Byzantines
Somehow the golden age of Islam didnt happen and scientific method was created in the 1600s.. dude literally didnt know about the Dark Ages or will probably blame immigrants on it..
@@fuaddanial2029 seems logical given ancient Greece's Christianity
Standard conservative thinking: some glorious bygone civilization that were Christians somehow, tradition good, ancient knowledge good, modern degeneracy ruining it all, blah, blah, blah
Also gonna assume he doesn't know that it was the Islamic empires which reintroduced Plato, Aristotle and Greek ideas back to Europe.
"Okay, so if pineapple and tomato are both fruits, can you give me an example of a fruit salad with tomato in it?"
"Well Destiny, I'm glad you asked that cause there are so many fruit salads, dating all the way back to Rome. America has lost its way with fruit salads, throwing in all these vegetables that just don't share a history with all of these traditional Roman fruits."
"That's great, can you answer the question though?"
"I just answered the question Destiny, pay attention. I know you're trying to get me to say I hate brussel sprouts, nice try."
> 145 iq compsci AI genius
> "what's the difference between an integral and a derivative"
> maaaaaan i dont remember everything, that was so long ago
oh my god im losing it
knowing what an array is +130 points
@@grizzdesu9732 he probably google it
I scored very high in an official IQ test, but feel very dumb at the same time and sometimes have trouble understanding complex issues.
I also debated people who had very high IQ and still had trouble formulating a coherent Argumentation. I know anecdotal evidence doesn't tell much, but in my Personal experience IQ tests are absolute trash at reflecting very important aspects of what I would consider as intelligent.
@@Pkey995 nah he replied way too fast to have googled it
@@branchy1186 I know
Take a shot everytime he responds with, "Heh, well it's funny...". He's like a AI that watched smug right wingers streamers and RUclips commenters and built a personality around it.
That's a good question
It's interesting
Damn AI, simplifying the whole process and stealing views from right wing youtubers
Honestly reminded me so much of that Jon Tron video with those mannerisms. The difference is you could see Jontron is a dumbass who fell into altright pipeline and he didn't claim otherwise but this guy is equally as idiotic yet thinks he's some sort of genius yet can't form reasonable arguments about any topic. He debates on a level of a middleschooler who learned some altright talking points on 4chan. And his history knowledge might be on the same level too.
Pp
"Before the split between the holy roman empire and the byzantine empire"
Wtf is he talking about
Lmfao forreal. Weren't they the continuation of the original Roman empire after the western Roman empire fell or some shit like that if I remember correctly. Like we call it the byzantine empire but the people at that time called themselves Roman's. And the holy roman empire arose where the Western roman empire fell. Meaning if anything the holy roman empire split from the roman empire, since the byzantine empire was really just the remaining portion of the original roman empire. It's been a minute since I've read about the history of the romans so I may be confused.
Edit: I said split when what I actually meant is hre was never the roman empire. It was a whole new empire.
On a charitable view he could just be referencing the fact that the coronation of Charlemagne by the Pope created a rift between the Frankish empire and the Byzantines.
@@Biblig Yeah I was giving him that as well but honestly I don't think that that was what he meant....
@@Biblig I first thought he meant the orthodox shism way later on but nah he just wanted to associate himself with the "mah Roman ancestors" Argument.
Would he have been a lombard fine but even then...
It's like people believing that french people have a common decendancy from the Franks when in reality only a miniscule minority has actually traceable ancestors within the Franks.
Nationalist will still proclaim that they're the descendants of the rebellious Franks tribe. Same goes for germanic tribes like the saxons. The founding myth of having roots in ancient empires is not a new talking point/strategy of the right wing however (the left as well). Hitler specifically tried to intertwine the germanic armenius myth with the idea that there was a unified Germany even back in the times of the Romans.
Boils my blood honestly.
I love how his big own through the debate was "How do you make this hypothetical fake future child feel less sad?"
>hypothetical
>fake
>future
@@HazeLmao Yeah your little timmy crap isn't happening. You've invented a problem in your head to get mad at.
But little Timmy exists now we just can’t find him
@@emilevangheem6165 no he doesn't lol
@@HazeLmao show me timmy
“Nigeria is a small country” Projected to have a billion people in the next 50 years lel
Yo based ass name and pfp
Did he really say this? Nigeria is one of the most populous countries in the world
@@masondyfjxuw Code Geass is the official DGG anime. I will die happily the day someone makes a parody of the opening for Destiny.
*Nigeria is so small that it’s practically half of west Africa’s population.*
@@tiaandeswardt7741 I watched it live and spit my drink out when I heard that lmao. I’ll try and find the exact timestamp
“Let me tell you a story about my totally real black friend who 100% exists and said this and why it proves without a doubt that white people are under attack, wait that’s not enough?”
“What about this hypothetical that’s totally bearing out in reality everywhere and isn’t just me projecting about being bullied in high school?”
“What do you mean it isn’t happening, haven’t you seen this RUclips video?!?!?!?”
This guys meant to be the top of the crop? 145IQ btw.
This dude literally had "a friend" who was "an expert" or "studies this" in almost every field they talked about. This Miyo guy has amazing connections to all these brilliant thinkers and scholars, which is surprising because his conversation skills are straight garbage, and I would think those "experts" would typically prefer a higher caliber of conversationalist.
@@ChaseDPatrick Dude is literally an SJW. I find the left wing version of this guy just as annoying but this is hilarious. People like this are an unfortunate result of the internet. They are miserable and they spend all their time looking for things to be miserable about.
I feel bad for him, honestly. Seems like he is an awkward kid and at some point he became consumed by online politics and now he is dedicated to being a firebrand personality in the right wing. I think he is probably a smart kid but society is in a weird place right now. Our technology and comfortable lifestyle has left a whole lot of people longing for some kind purpose and hyper-focusing on insignificant issues. I can't believe how many times he retreated to his concern over "Lil Timmy". It's kind of a paradox because he is complaining that minorities are all whining about their status in this country and that being a minority is not inherently bad but his biggest worry for the future is that white people will become an oppressed minority.
His mom also got blocked because she was white and not a racist maga.
she’s literally getting red-pilled by the guy who claimed to be familiar with Alden’s Number… anyways, please don’t get your politics from online debates lmfao
@@johnlemon874 really? his voice is strikingly similar. i wouldn’t doubt it.
@@celiaoffline he admits it during the q and a it's the same fukken dude
@@celiaoffline wait who was the guy that got tripped up with aldens number, link please
I fuckin knew I recognized him when he said “Well that’s your prerogative”
No fucking way, you guys are trolling the shit out of me. This guy sounds wayyy older than the aldens number guy even when you account the age of that video
this was fucking hard to get through, but it's amazing that, at the 4-Hour mark, Miyo it's still willingly opening his mouth to reveal new and interesting topics that he doesn't know anything about
Well tbh he knows just enough to make every other moron think he does.
Bro just spews generalities we all know about over and over, then switches topics when Destiny comes in with original ideas and arguments 😂
This debate is like an extended Beethoven Symphony Coda. Everything Miyo says is a flowery tension building lie pulling us to a strange distant alternate universe, and Destiny follows with a sharp, decisive, satisfying resolution back to reality
@@dandobrowolski5818 you mean everything? musician for "several years", written "several papers" in cs, age, political orientation and what they actually think ethnicity is? I know you are baiting and this is not supposed to be an hinest question, but just for the record in case someone reads.
excellent metaphor
Actually I think it’s more like Big Band music
@@Marqrk Personally it feels more like a simplification of the waltz to me
doing the music thing? that's a girl's name!
Everyone raise a glass for Little Timmy, that tragic bastard
This dude spoke like a teenager, "I went to a top 5 school", "I've read a lot of philosophy works", just generic bragging statements without substance..if you don't know the difference between binary and assembly... that's not terms brother.. that's basics
Also, when are we gonna reach the point in which we stop looking at IQ as any viable tell for a persons level of intelligence, it's so stupid...
I hardly remember most of my education for my two years of comp sci before i switch majors, and i at least still remember that assembly and binary arent the same. I cant tell you details but i remember some basics ffs
@@HappyHippieGaymer I didn’t go to compsci, I studied basics on my own, I’m a bad programmer, but that’s just basics
Even I know assembly in this context is some kind of translation and I 'm so bad with computers, that I just give up on things, that don't work after restarting the computer.🤷♂️
@@notsure6222 "Assembly language" and binary are terms that barely even scratch the proverbial surface of CompSci. If this moron actually did go to college for CompSci he would answer Destiny without hesitation. It was dumb as fuck and as a CompSci Major I was cringing so hard.
If this guy has a 145 IQ, Nick Fuentes must have a 445 IQ
At least 445.
This is reckless on Destiny's part. He shouldn't be teaching Alt-Righters how to argue for free.
Bright side, I don't think it'll stick.
Their ideaologies have a hard time holding any water when exposed to simple Socratic Methods of discussion.
Disagree, teaching people how to argue can (ideally) eventually lead them to seeing how flawed their logic actually is. Sooooo this may actually turn some Alt-righters
@Weston Meyer OK lol 😆
Moot. It's like being taught to climb mountains in Ohio.
"I've studied the Iliad" - spoken like someone who doesn't even know what the Iliad is about
More like someone who read a few passages for a high school English class.
"I've studied the Iliad" sounds like "I studied Harry Potter" to me.
I laughed too when he said it. It was required reading when I was in high school 😂
"Well, my ancestor's brother in law accused his wife of being a witch, and she wasn't a witch, she drowned."
I haven't laughed like that in a long time. I almost feel bad for this guy.
She probably turned him into a newt
The pre Christian faiths of the people of the British Isles were persecuted by Anglo Saxon's . If one of his ancestors was drowned for being a witch, even if she was not , that is real oppression. it scarred his line. That may be why he is so right wing now.
I have family members who are dark and look Native but only identify as white. They spout all that horrible garbage this guy does. They were injured by colonialist control. So now he identify with the oppressor .
That is what they used to think was how to tell if someone was a witch lol, if they float they are a witch because reasons. Insane but yeah.
I love how they assume witches couldn't drown.
"i didnt know i was 145 iq until my mom told me as an adult and she said she didnt tell me earlier because she didnt want to embarrass my brother" how does this guy not realize how stupid this sounds lmao
I love how he talks about how great Rome was, while Rome was very lenient with giving citenzenship to foreigners compared to other ancient civilizations and it’s even seen as a reason for their succes
The romans conception of race was quite different. The only two races were roman and barbarian. The purpose of their racial understanding was to otherize non-roman citizens by labeling them barbarians. The "black people are worse than white people" type of racism came about when white europeans wanted to make up an explanation to justify enslaving black people, like 1000 years after Rome. Fucking weird, man.
@@Mrraerae is the fucking weird man aimed at me? Because I didn’t say anything about race
@@pieterprins3443 Naw I think he was more making a general comment on racism
Not at all true.Google The social war.
@@gaby9009 this doesn’t really disprove what I said. It was easier to gain Roman citizenship than, for example, Athenean citizenship. And the granting of citizenship to conquered people by Rome is often seen as an important factor in their ‘snowball effect’
I really support Destiny's point about web cams in these debates. I want to see him squirm when Destiny turns his argument around with a simple "Have you even read that Op-Ed you just referenced?".
Omg same here I need visual satisfaction
"The Romans were Jews before Constantine"
Is this guy for real? The Romans literally BURNED down the Temple of Jerusalem and caused the second greatest diaspora lol, he doesnt even know his own bible...
Oh shit, I didn't expect him to actually have made up his background, but the fact that he doesn't know what Turing-complete means is an extremely bad sign.
When every single one of his rebuttals start with "Its interesting how..." or "Its funny how..." or "It only goes to show..." that is such a clear sign he found a trigger word to connect to his dialogue tree instead of listening to and engaging with the point at hand.
I know I’m a year late but it’s crazy how true this is. The longer I thought about it the more it makes sense.
@@LocatedRaider I know I’m a year late but it’s crazy how true this is. The longer I thought about it the more it makes sense.
I know I'm a year late to this but it's crazy how true it is. The longer I thought about it the more it makes sense.
This dude is just trolling, won't own up any of his positions dismissing them as jokes and lie about everything. Waste of time
This is the exact person that Vaush tricked into claiming to know about Alden's Number. FYI, Alden's Number is a completely made up concept.
@@americanhero8606 oh fuck I didn’t realise this was that same guy
@@americanhero8606 WAIT
@@americanhero8606 NO FUCKING WAY LMFAOOO
@@americanhero8606 holy shit lmao
He already started of by saying the Roman Empire split up into the Byzantine Empire and the Holy Roman Empire which is just not true at all
His whole lecture was just painful to listen.. my most vivid "this guy has no idea what hes talking about" moment so far. DAE roman judaism???
he could have at least said the roman catholic church or something. a lot of catholic stuff has vestigial roman stuff mixed in. Holy Roman Empire is too far of a stretch, everyone knows that.
@@DonetskiLetsplayshik I’m guessing he just saw the word Roman, got some weird ‘western culture boner’ and asumed it’s all the same empire
@@Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate in my eyes it betrays a very shallow understanding of the history he claims to be so proud of. I really wish Destiny learned more history to catch these kinds of things
yeah that part made me laugh. He’s complaining about past wisdom being forgotten and heritage and shit but doesn’t even know history 😆
"No civilisation has lasted longer than rome" China: am I joke to you.
Didn’t China have very bloody dynasty changes that often resulted in famines the likes Rome has never seen?
My god destiny has more stamina than the entirety of the broncos, how the hell did this shit last 4 hours.
Eh Broncos! Fellow Coloradan eh?
he doesnt man his soul died multiple times
@@grizzdesu9732 this is what we actually need timestamps for lmao
This guy is a talking /pol/ infographic
With charts illustrated with windows paint
Lol facts
It sounded like he was refreshing the natsoc threads real time for talking points
The “what is white culture/values” list he talked about is posted in /pol/ daily. You could have replaced this guy with anyone else from /pol/ and you’d hear the same exact stuff
@@od8401 lol i used to spend a lot of time there so yeah i know what it's like. You can tell he just memorized a bunch of talking points he read on 4chan and thats all he has going for him
"I'm a professional landscaper because I got paid to mow a lawn when I was 13" - Miyo
My headset cuts out sometimes and it usually annoys me, but every time it cut out while Miyo was talking I felt like I was being saved.
this conversation lowered my IQ, hopefully they let me still enter the US.
Remember, the stupidity of a conversation is limited by the person involved so if your IQ is getting lower you must still be approaching his so you're still 150 or above.
Destiny is just trying to point out to the kid that he hasn’t REALLY given his positions much real thought, but this is either going over the kid’s head completely, which honestly wouldn’t be that hard to believe, or he really is a weasel. It’s kind of sad to watch really.
He isn't a kid, he's 31... That's the painful part.
@@ArmoredSoul1 lmfao no way
@@ArmoredSoul1 yea i don't believe that either, not for a second.
@@ashley-GX3 Tbh he kinda is a pathological liar or some shit. That or for some reason despite being a comp sci major, professional musician, or whatever else he's claimed, he knows nothing about anything he claims expertise in.
I dunno what would be worse, that he is a washed up 31 year old pretending to be an expert, or that he's a teenager with politics and an understanding of them that is this god awful already.
@@ArmoredSoul1 He claims to be 31, just like he claims to be a professional musician with a genius level IQ.
It's just some kid who's spent too much time in the wrong corners of the internet who lies to cover up his own deficiencies and create a fake aura of authority.
I’m super curious what positions or issues Brittany was ever “left wing” on.
I'm not sure I've ever heard her take a political stance on ANYTHING... But I guess there's some convos out here that I'm unaware of.
@@GuyMcDudeman probably a lot for me, since I don't know this person I keep seeing in the comments.
@@blackmage665 Yeah, Brittany is the pretty blonde host lady. But like I said, I've never seen her actually participate in debate. Apparently she's a right-leaning "centrist" according to what I'm reading.
@@GuyMcDudeman Lmao I thought everyone was talking about Brittany Venti.
@@rreprah9515
Hahahaha! Oh, shit... I forgot she even exists.
1:56:39 “Truckers that make up 30% of the American workforce”
Does this guy actually think 1 in 3 Americans are truckers? It’s actually 2.6% so I don’t know where he got that number.
He saw 3% and thought it meant 1 in 3.
This guy definitely has tried a small amount of a lot of things and then claims indepth knowledge. He's probably dipped into comp sci and knows enough about programming to piece together a solution from various sources. He's read a few philosophy books, enough to pass a test then forget about it. He fucked around with a few instruments and learned a few songs. He claims 145 IQ but he's probably referring either the Cattell III B test with or some simplified child's version which probably means nothing seeing as IQ changes with age. Through most of his life he's been the one-eyed man in the land of the blind and then suddenly, someone who knows about these topics can completely expose him.
From the sounds of things he's maybe taken a codecademy course or two and maybe done a to-do app tutorial. I would be shocked if it's much more than that. CS degree or not, you don't actually work as a serious dev without coming across the basic concepts Destiny brought up fairly early on.
Nice picture. Do you allow me to use it as a background image for my desktop?
I can see that as a possibility. Most developers I have worked with in the last 23 years are this way. There are a lot of coding schools online. I thought about taking one for the iOS and for droids to learn to program for both as major companies are doing this.
Hey, he's programming Runescape bots. Only big brained, 145 IQ people can do that.
Sorry bro, but IQ stays consistend throughout a lifetime
The “Left wing host” got red pilled on immigration by an edgy 16 year old Groyper…
She cites the Lil Timmy question as her biggest red-pill moment.
Imagine being a grownass woman and being swayed by a teenage 4Chan troll.
@@buzzerking what is the lil timmy question?
@Weston Meyer Immigration is political. What a meaningless statement.
@Weston Meyer I'm curious, give me some "non-political" right wing points about immigration.
"We descended from Rome."
Chances are this guys ancestors were Irish potato farmers. lol
Irish potato farmers that were colonized by white Anglo-Saxon protestants. But apparentely we're better off for it based on what he says. America was literally a colony that rebelled, but apparently being a colony was great. I don't know why he has such an attachment with the founding fathers who clearly disagreed the with him about this.
Chances are his ancestors come from the same 15,000 Homo sapiens that most folks did in Africa, stop with this “guy dumb for identifying specific geographic area that his ancestors are from” and then identifying a geographic area based on a spot in a hypothetical ancestral timeline that is most convenient to you. Stop fighting dumb nonsense with the same dumb nonsense
@@danielburnham5325 you mean that it's wrong to use peoples logic against that? That just sounds like good argumentation, if their position is not internally consistent then it's not very good.
@@redcloudblackcloak5677 no because you aren’t pointing out the inconsistencies in the argument and what makes it a bad argument. You’re just validating bad logic patterns and winning debate-bro-logic arguments rather than adding anything to overall consciousness of discourse.
As a 45 year old white man who spent most of my elementary school years, in schools where I was in the minority, it was the best experience of my life and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
it's anecdotal/individual experience.
Elementary school times is very basic, none of kids havet developed enough for anything too bad (unless they have serious mental issues, but even then, the receiving end is too young to comprehend), most psycho normies develop abuse in torturous ways in their teens, so late middle to high school times is the most ptsd-inducing, mainly because you're forced to be in the same place (school/summer camps/family/etc) with others, and later, prison style. Most people are lacking in empathy to men, so that's only exacerbating. In fact it's showing, when people are talking about some elementary school heckling or basic biggest kid from kindergarten stuff as the worst, usually it means they've had a fairly spoiled/lucky life.
I wanna give a little anecdote,
I went to a majority latino and black school and in my PE class there was only one white kid and the girls there couldn't get enough of him. So if this hypothetical future where Little Timmy is the only white kid in class does come to pass he might end up becoming the classroom chad
Me being the only white kid in my class i can confirm the favoritism. Timmy is fine
@@jssbulldog definitely depends on if it's a good or bad classroom environment, but this occurs for plenty of different demographics, so idk why White people bring this up as if the same thing is not probable when a Muslim kid is the only Black person in a classroom full of Christian kids, etc etc
@@jssbulldog you ever wonder WHY they're favorites though, genius?
Yes, but if little Timmy is only able to choose from women that are a different race, his race will end with him. This may not be an issue for a lot of people, but for some people, the extinction of a specific race is not something to rejoice.
Alternatively, little Timmy can also just be the social outcast because he's different and doesn't fit in with the other kids in his school. A lot of social circles end up racially self-segregated, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that Timmy will be lonely and depressed.
@@iwannabethekid34xc Because we're white and awesome.
"Moderator" literally interjecting to argue for one side and allowing one of the sides to completely derail the conversation repeatedly and have 2x the amount of total time for debate that the other gets.
You mean "totally a Centrist and definitely not at minimum White Nationalist adjacent" moderator Britney?
I can’t stand her. Destiny asks her about something and she brings up “the music thing” just admit you don’t know and stop talking.
They are a joke, i wish people would stop goin to them for debates
I fucking loved when this genius ai programmer couldn't explain integrals, derivatives, assembly code and turing completeness. But atleast he knew what an array is.
I have a CS degree and have worked in IT for over ten years but I could not remember what integrals and derivatives were without checking. Turing machine I kinda remember but I don't know if I could have explained it sufficiently on the spot.
@@JOHNTIM212 he didn’t ask about a Turing machine though, he asked what it meant if a language was Turing complete
@@TH32N1P3RJ32U2 yeah but the way I remember it is that a Turing complete language has to be able to do the same as a Turing machine so they are pretty much the same explanations
@@JOHNTIM212 I'm math/cs student. Doing complex ai programs and not knowing what derivative is bit weird. Like yes you can use deep learning libraries without knowing how they works but him bragging about his ai prowess without knowing what derivative is does show that you are presenting yourself as smarter than you are. It's not that hard to just slap some code using a deep learning library to get some okish results on easy problems.
Not knowing on top of your head what turing completeness is kinda understandable, but you would expect to have some vague idea. But yea being few years out of school might make you forget it, but with his emphasis on how smart he is, you would expect atleast some sort of vague answer.
Maybe you could chalk it up to nerves, but I expected bit more.
@@JOHNTIM212 But even saying what you just said, that Turing completeness means to be able to do any calculation that a Turing machine can do, would have demonstrated basic familiarity with the idea, even if he then wouldn't have been able to define a Turing machine in detail. He couldn't even say that, so the most plausible conclusion is he never took a single CS course.
"Never interrupt a man when he is cooking himself" - Sun Tzu
Destiny made this kid hyperventilate and have a breakdown whilst casually eating lunch, Amazin’
Bey-ta!
The Greeks had some other great ideas, like homoeroticism and homosexuality. How did the Greeks have nationalism...when they weren't a nation in Ancient times lmao? In fact they weren't a nation until fairly recently. He should probably start by reading some basic history 101. Greek and Spanish culture were heavily influenced by Muslims and the Jews (they both have their own and still face some social and religious issues due to such.), but naturally he doesn't know that either. Slippery slope fallacies backed by elementary levels of historical and cultural understandings.
These people don't know anything about history except for lazy stereotypes and memes, basically whatever the lowest common denominator or pop-culture version of history is.
@@aleks-wy6uf Bro...just try a basic google search. There's mosques that have been in Greece for 600+ years LMAO. Ethnostate he says, meanwhile Greece was literally occupied by the Nazi's (if you were Greek you probably remember that right? my fiance's parents were literally there btw) and they exterminated like a 1/3rd of the population. As for your delusional and non backed homoerotic take, it's literally listed in famous literature and basic history...and featured front and center in one of Greece's most controversial ways of teaching...pederasty. Use the Greek you apparently know and please learn some basic history.
I like at the end of the debate that Destiny was just done. There was nothing left to gain or clip.
@@hallahallaful ?lmao?
Yoo didn't know you watched Destiny! Love your Death of a game series.
As someone currently studying comp sci in college, hearing him say assembly was “0s and 1s” was incredible
As someone who only did compsci for like a semester, I also found it to be.. amazin'
I cringed as someone who works as a developer, I really hope this isn’t the next generation or all my code is fucked
@@Cryptogram44 Don't worry, most of them become Product Managers.
He was wrong, dead wrong even, but I think a surprising large amount of software engineers couldn't accurately define assembly language on the spot. They may tell you how high level code gets compiled down to assembly language and eventually binaries, but I don't think you'll usually hear a textbook answer.
@@kylesmith2379 true, the only thing I could come up with is addresses and instructions
This moderator was completely useless and unnecessary. For the first 20 mins I thought it was a thumbnail video in destinies feed.
I sometimes wonder if all of this is just a game that they play to have fun.
Once I saw how blatant this guy was lying about his background, it's hard to take any part of his argument seriously.
yeah
they lie a lot
that kinda puts me off
ALL right wingers are
1. MALICIOUSLY stupid
and some are ALSO
2. Grifters/trolls
I am just astounded by the fact that the host was supposedly "red-pilled" by Miyo yet she doesn't seem to question any of those views after 3 conversations that show that this guy is woefully incompetent and unprepared to have these kinds of debates on top of the fact that he tries to make things up on the fly. Does he think that he can just spout nonsense and Destiny will just let it slide or does he actually believe this twisted version of reality?
>Aristotle's best student was Alexander Macedonian
He's 30 seconds in and it's already obvious this man's an embarrassment lmao
Wait what's wrong with that part?
@@cameronurquhart2537 Alexander was a prominent student but certainly not the best, or in terms of intelectual achievement/role for future philosophical development, his most important one.
essentially any time someone goes further than 200 years or starts talking about European history you know they’re talking out of their ass or citing nitpicky obscure far right articles written by amateurs, since that’s more than what you learn in American high schools and none of these guys ever do their own solid research. Reminds me of the Christian with his wife who tried dunking on destiny by saying nationalism came from enlightenment thought which is what all the liberals extrapolate their ideology from (???).
@@tendo6385 Yeah, pretty much everytime anyone from alt-right starts talking about Europe, I start cringing as hell :-D
All of his points about ancient Greece are off. (All he gets right are some names)
“My mom told me my IQ was so high, she couldn’t tell me what it was, because my brother would get jealous.”
Holy HELL, what’s more likely to be the case?
She was telling the truth.
She spared her son such embarrassment by withholding his IQ score.
😂
Any person who utters a statement like this with a straight face is not intelligent.
My mom did something similar... starting to wonder if this is my bro with a voice changer
everyone who doesnt have an ancestor that was falsly accused of witchcraft and drowned should be kicked out of america, or something according to this guy.
She turned me into a newt!
It was such a weird thing for him to bring up
Idk what it is with right wingers claiming victories for things they didn’t do but their ancestors did
@@sadboipotato3382 a newt?
@@aagh8714 ......I got better.
We need to go back to our European roots of drowning witches. Feminism and diversity are made by witches so if we drowned them all we'd fix the country
>claims to love plato’s forms
>gets mad when destiny asks him to elaborate on the form of compsci
As a CS-Data Science Major with a minor in philosophy, this man was tailor made to make me suffer. Thanks for the great content Destiny!
All you need is some music theory and your head would have exploded.
@@thegradschooldropoutshit, even as an avid music amateur I was getting furious.
Tbf, the questions asked to investigate his CS knowledge kinda sucked.