I laugh so hard every time I watch Markus perform those 4 reps of the leg press, while Mike and Ray stand there with blank looks on their faces like they’ve seen this a million times with their hundreds of other clients 😂
@@guiille_3662 Big Mike says usually just catch your breath then proceed to another exercise or set. He also even mentioned that it’s better for your cardiovascular system to keep the heart rate high instead of resting longer between sets letting your heart slow down just to turn it back on again.
@@guiille_3662 enough to catch your breath. First Movements (Leg Extension & Leg Press) should be treated as a superset with very minimal rest. Leg press to hamstring curls you can catch your breath. 1-2 minutes.
the vid quality is low, but if you look closely, you can almost notice a small red dot of light on Markus' forehead. All of Menzer's routines were enforced by sniper
Just getting that bit of mikes humour at the start is gold. John, if you have any video recordings/audio recordings on Mike when he’s just casually chatting or talking other interests it would be great to get an idea of his personality. Love the videos and all the work you do on this RUclips page and the books! 🙌
I used that machine several times back in the 1980s and it was one of a kind, the cam was configured to make the weight much heavier the more your legs got to straightening out, where they are the strongest. Definitely the best leg press machine ever invented.
I love following these works outs have been doing so for a few months, only thing is gyms are so crowded now so it’s hard to do supersets and I alwyws have to wait on a few machine to open
I didn’t know about the hand grip. I was about to pass out, couldn’t stand, couldn’t catch my breath after leg press. And I didn’t know what happened. Mike answered. Not nervous anymore
I've never been into body building that much always martial arts but now I've found Mike mentzer I'm actually starting to love bodybuilding he's awesome ❤
It's super taxing on multiple levels. HOWEVER, after a few months, your neurological adaptations make it much easier to then just focus on perfecting form and progressive overload over time.
For me, mentzer heavy duty really suits my goal. I can recover properly and come back stronger for the short & intense around 30mins workout. 3 - 4 days btw workout, i can do my swim/bike /run training. (i'm doing triathlon as an age grouper). can train for both my endurance events and keep my musle/strength at the same time.
I’d love to see a study done with like 50 sets of same gendered twins. 25 twins train with more volume and high intensity. While the other 25 trained with the Mentzer approach. I wonder how the results my vary
i think studies on this wont work. 99% of the people you will meet, even in the gym with great progress are mentally not able to push to the absolute limit let alone untrained newbee folks for a study
I dont train like mike but i sure did cut back alot. No more 5 to 6 times a week that was killing my gains. Always sore always in pain didnt grow much. Now training 3 times max a week and i am feeling alot stronger and if grown alot compared to 5/6 times a week. And NO MORE PAIN!!!
I just came from gym i was doing legs, and i could barely drive my car, barely walked the stairs... before while i was doing "regular" training it was just like ok no tyredness in legs or anything.
They were the great teachers, but afraid with those last 4 reps conditions, i mean those clients when used to walk away after a brutal leg session in gym, they were definitely walking barely 😂, but jokes apart so tragic fate to lost them decades ago while we are learning today by just watching their old vids
Basically getting heavier to find your potential With each set and very slow in a nut shell this is what they did. Interesting. Leg press press 6,4,3 extension 6 superset to leg press x3, ham curls 3?, calves 7, 1 with long pause at top
I just did the chest day today is leg day after my rest days. My chest is still feeling the workout, I use to work out ever other day or 4 straight and 3 off. I can easily get a six pack and look cut, but I want size.
I have been applying his rep routine over the last while, going slow and controlled, but I know I can push myself harder. Legs are a whole other beast, but nevertheless, I am pumped to torture myself in the gym tomorrow!
Hey John, thank you for uploading these. I'm reviewing this video before Leg Day based on the ideal program from another video. The Exercises match entirely except for the addition of the hamstring curl (& Lat Pullovers for chest and back day 1). Seeing as this was Mike's most recent presentation of his ideal split, is it acceptable to add the hamstring curl & lat Pulldowns demonstrated in this DVD? (Of course, accounting for additional recovery, keeping track of strength, and avoiding additional inroads)
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Hey John, thank you for the quick response. I performed to failure for every set, including the hamstring curls. The Hamstrings definitely have room for improvement. That said, I will go home, rest, and grow. Thank you again.
Hi, I have a question. I can´t do leg extensions, because it puts too much stress on my knee, so I need to subsitute it with some other exercise. What would you suggest? I thought maybe about bulgarian split squat superseted with squats or leg presses.
After the warm up set which is on the leg press cuz it warms up all the leg muscles. It’s 1 set for each exercise 1set of leg extension then immediately go back to leg press do 1 set then take a few minutes of a break then do 1 set of hamstring curl then immediately got calve raise do 1 set
So ok i get it isolate the muscle then compound his ass up with a weight that allows max of 4-5 reps ok until complete failure, ok. But i do this 1 time ? Or multiple times?
Many studies show one set of exercise taken to momentary muscular failure as being just as productive or more productive than training with multiple sets of the same exercise: Carpinelli, R.N. and Otto R. M. (1998). Strength training: Single versus multiple sets. Sports Medicine 26: 73-84.; Ostrowski KJ, Wilson GJ, Weatherby R., Murphy PW, Little AD. The effect of weight training volume on hormonal output and muscular size and function. J Strength Conditioning Res 1997; 11:148-154; Fincher, G. E. (2000). The effect of high intensity resistance training on peak upper and lower body power among collegiate football players. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 32(5), Supplement abstract 657; Hass, C. J., Garzarella, L, de Hoyos, D., & Pollock, M. L. (2000); Single versus multiple sets in long-term recreational weightlifters. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 32, 235-242; Fincher, G. E. (2001). The effect of high intensity resistance training on sustained anaerobic power output among collegiate football players. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 33(5), Supplement abstract 756, Fincher, G. E., 2001; Wolfe, B. L., Vaerio, T. A, Strohecker, K., & Szmedra, L., 2001; Journal of Exercise).
He’s saying that the body is a closed hydraulic system. Meaning, that if you grip the handles on a machine too tightly, it restricts blood circulation, causing a buildup and increase in blood pressure. This is something to be avoided.
Wow that's TILL FAILURE Mike's Only style 😢🙏 in other note. The minute 8:45 when Markus stepped off the leg machine he can barely stand. Mike said " I know how you feeling" R.I.P. Mike Mentzer THE LAST REP The One that counts
the dude saying "I hate you" 3x to mike, mike don't give a single sh*t continues monologue
Cause Mike knows exactly where he is because Mike has very much been there
I really wish the mentzer brothers were alive today I would love to meet them especially Mike
His physique was the best in my opinion, his and Steve Reeves'.
Always think the same thing when I watch his videos
Same
Imagine mike doing this vlogs today being a youtuber, thats got to be amazing😅🤔🤷
Bet you won't, that is the destiny of unrecognised genius.
"Higher! Higher!"
"I HATE YOU" 😂😂😂
"I Hate You Mike"
"That is a high intensity leg workout!"
I laugh so hard every time I watch Markus perform those 4 reps of the leg press, while Mike and Ray stand there with blank looks on their faces like they’ve seen this a million times with their hundreds of other clients 😂
😂
cause they have😂😂😂
loll xD
This 15min vid was basically the guys whole leg workout. So fast yet effective.
But how much time do you need to rest between sets?
@@guiille_3662 Big Mike says usually just catch your breath then proceed to another exercise or set. He also even mentioned that it’s better for your cardiovascular system to keep the heart rate high instead of resting longer between sets letting your heart slow down just to turn it back on again.
@@guiille_3662 enough to catch your breath. First Movements (Leg Extension & Leg Press) should be treated as a superset with very minimal rest. Leg press to hamstring curls you can catch your breath. 1-2 minutes.
@@guiille_3662minimal
Once your done legs wait about 5mn is fine to hit calves
"I hate you Mike"
Mike- Yeah I know.
Savage 😂😂
No freakin' phones or tablets. A true master using a pen and a paper. Explained stuff so well, he loved bodybuilding, you can tell that.
I mean it wasn’t out at that time so he didn’t really have a choice 😂 if it was I’m sure he would use iPhone or tablet
Mike kicking his feet on the calf raises is classic lol
🤣🤣🤣 8:17 “😐 we got a little too excited- we uh…. over-estimated, but uh…..” 💀💀💀
*** legs broken ***
I was rooting for him when he almost gave up on that last rep of leg extensions and he did it!
In Australia, the word "rooting", has a different meaning! 🤣
the vid quality is low, but if you look closely, you can almost notice a small red dot of light on Markus' forehead. All of Menzer's routines were enforced by sniper
You mean Fking!!!! Is the proper term lol
@@germanpennlmao
They are KILLING this man lol this is hilarious. Dudes an animal
Just getting that bit of mikes humour at the start is gold.
John, if you have any video recordings/audio recordings on Mike when he’s just casually chatting or talking other interests it would be great to get an idea of his personality.
Love the videos and all the work you do on this RUclips page and the books! 🙌
I love Mikes sence of humour
I woke up with sore legs and hardly being able to walk by just watching this video
Love that leg press... can't get stuck under it
I used that machine several times back in the 1980s and it was one of a kind, the cam was configured to make the weight much heavier the more your legs got to straightening out, where they are the strongest. Definitely the best leg press machine ever invented.
hahah " I hate you Mike"
amount of knowledge here is incredible
I love following these works outs have been doing so for a few months, only thing is gyms are so crowded now so it’s hard to do supersets and I alwyws have to wait on a few machine to open
Just came home from this leg day. Could barrely walk down the gym stairs and swetty as hell. 20 min workout. Looking forward to see the progress.
Whewwww that leg extension to leg press super set gyat damn i felt that thru the screen
I didn’t know about the hand grip. I was about to pass out, couldn’t stand, couldn’t catch my breath after leg press. And I didn’t know what happened. Mike answered. Not nervous anymore
I just did this today. I’m glad I was doing everything correctly. I just listened and it’s funny I got it right.
Awesome workout!
Thanks for this video
Today its my day 2 : legs
& i didn't know how to execute the workout or warm up.
Once again thanks for uploading❤❤❤
Mike literally sounds like an scientiest
Mike is genius 👌… I really understand his point
I've never been into body building that much always martial arts but now I've found Mike mentzer I'm actually starting to love bodybuilding he's awesome ❤
Im doing this tomorrow. I did chest and back Monday. Im sticking with this program for the duration.
What did the legs feel like on leg press
How it goes for you?
How it go??
It's super taxing on multiple levels. HOWEVER, after a few months, your neurological adaptations make it much easier to then just focus on perfecting form and progressive overload over time.
How has the program been?
The background 80s music makes me chuckle tho 😂
For me, mentzer heavy duty really suits my goal. I can recover properly and come back stronger for the short & intense around 30mins workout. 3 - 4 days btw workout, i can do my swim/bike /run training. (i'm doing triathlon as an age grouper). can train for both my endurance events and keep my musle/strength at the same time.
I’m a pretty avid runner and am looking for something that won’t negatively affect my running training. This may be it.
But how do you know how much weight you need to do for the set to failure??? 50% of max? 70%?
@@areebsoomro398680-90% after warm up
Coach Mike DRIVING You to the Edge
08:45 "this is not for nerds" 😂
I really need to order his book
"Higher! Higher!" Whilst kicking his heels 😅 @ 13:18
The calf raises at the end are just brutal, 😂
Leg day today 💪
Whenever i watch mike ment mentzer videos i feel like i trained my mind till failure 😂
I mean,I get more information
😅
Arnold is watching with his secret account
Love the techno in the background! Does anyone know what they were listening to, sounded almost like techno/trance
I’d love to see a study done with like 50 sets of same gendered twins. 25 twins train with more volume and high intensity. While the other 25 trained with the Mentzer approach. I wonder how the results my vary
i think studies on this wont work. 99% of the people you will meet, even in the gym with great progress are mentally not able to push to the absolute limit let alone untrained newbee folks for a study
At least 90% of the people at my gym push every set to failure including myself. Why start the exercise if you’re not giving 100%? Waste of time.
Well said. Pumping set after set when it’s not done to failure is useless
There were a certain group of Germans that liked to study twins
@@TravisMcGee151Mike literally does one set until it is physically impossible to get it up, a little different than people “doing their best”
i train my legs mentzer style getting mad gains in size
much better than conventional overtraining
Mike coaching is like if god was a personal trainer
This is pure gold
Marcus seemed like he was ready to give up body building completely and go back to his accountant job 8:05
I dont train like mike but i sure did cut back alot.
No more 5 to 6 times a week that was killing my gains.
Always sore always in pain didnt grow much.
Now training 3 times max a week and i am feeling alot stronger and if grown alot compared to 5/6 times a week.
And NO MORE PAIN!!!
He was right I did 12 reps 300 lbs leg press for one set and my legs felt like jelly
On just my first leg day I could do 350 lbs leg press for tens of reps, but I have really good leg genetics and play football ⚽ as a defender.
Today is my second leg day, I need to work the femural biceps and calves more.
I like the shorts. Anyone know where I can purchase similar ones?
How's hamstring curls in the ideal program
not Mike kickin his shoe like a kid🤣🤣
I just came from gym i was doing legs, and i could barely drive my car, barely walked the stairs... before while i was doing "regular" training it was just like ok no tyredness in legs or anything.
Average gym bro can’t reach this level of intensity
Shut up Clown , I'm doing this way with myoreps
Today never bodybuilder can't
Quads, I feel, when provoked, are the only muscles that will make you throw up😂
Testicles as well
@@user-boobs 😄😄⏸
@@user-boobshahahaah
They were the great teachers, but afraid with those last 4 reps conditions, i mean those clients when used to walk away after a brutal leg session in gym, they were definitely walking barely 😂, but jokes apart so tragic fate to lost them decades ago while we are learning today by just watching their old vids
Basically getting heavier to find your potential With each set and very slow in a nut shell this is what they did. Interesting. Leg press press 6,4,3 extension 6 superset to leg press x3, ham curls 3?, calves 7, 1 with long pause at top
I just did the chest day today is leg day after my rest days. My chest is still feeling the workout, I use to work out ever other day or 4 straight and 3 off. I can easily get a six pack and look cut, but I want size.
Massive legs
I have been applying his rep routine over the last while, going slow and controlled, but I know I can push myself harder. Legs are a whole other beast, but nevertheless, I am pumped to torture myself in the gym tomorrow!
So…no squats at all? Leg extensions into leg presses?
Hey John, thank you for uploading these. I'm reviewing this video before Leg Day based on the ideal program from another video. The Exercises match entirely except for the addition of the hamstring curl (& Lat Pullovers for chest and back day 1). Seeing as this was Mike's most recent presentation of his ideal split, is it acceptable to add the hamstring curl & lat Pulldowns demonstrated in this DVD? (Of course, accounting for additional recovery, keeping track of strength, and avoiding additional inroads)
Absolutely. The key is what you said in your last sentence.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Hey John, thank you for the quick response. I performed to failure for every set, including the hamstring curls. The Hamstrings definitely have room for improvement. That said, I will go home, rest, and grow. Thank you again.
@@anekeykia No worries. Best of luck with your training.
Hi, I have a question. I can´t do leg extensions, because it puts too much stress on my knee, so I need to subsitute it with some other exercise. What would you suggest? I thought maybe about bulgarian split squat superseted with squats or leg presses.
Those work, or even try lunges with resistance bands anchored so your lead leg has to fight it, while coming back (athleanx)
Do front squat in a smith machine or goblet squat
Hey John, i have a question. After warmup is it 1 set of every exercise or 3 sets? @mike
After the warm up set which is on the leg press cuz it warms up all the leg muscles. It’s 1 set for each exercise 1set of leg extension then immediately go back to leg press do 1 set then take a few minutes of a break then do 1 set of hamstring curl then immediately got calve raise do 1 set
2morow is my leg day , which me luck and that i get out frm da gym unscathed
So ok i get it isolate the muscle then compound his ass up with a weight that allows max of 4-5 reps ok until complete failure, ok.
But i do this 1 time ? Or multiple times?
Great machine where you don’t have to get on another that may be occupied
I have a question, John. How is only one set of each workout promoting hypertrophy?
Many studies show one set of exercise taken to momentary muscular failure as being just as productive or more productive than training with multiple sets of the same exercise:
Carpinelli, R.N. and Otto R. M. (1998). Strength training: Single versus multiple sets. Sports Medicine 26: 73-84.; Ostrowski KJ, Wilson GJ, Weatherby R., Murphy PW, Little AD. The effect of weight training volume on hormonal output and muscular size and function. J Strength Conditioning Res 1997; 11:148-154; Fincher, G. E. (2000). The effect of high intensity resistance training on peak upper and lower body power among collegiate football players. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 32(5), Supplement abstract 657; Hass, C. J., Garzarella, L, de Hoyos, D., & Pollock, M. L. (2000); Single versus multiple sets in long-term recreational weightlifters. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 32, 235-242; Fincher, G. E. (2001). The effect of high intensity resistance training on sustained anaerobic power output among collegiate football players. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 33(5), Supplement abstract 756, Fincher, G. E., 2001; Wolfe, B. L., Vaerio, T. A, Strohecker, K., & Szmedra, L., 2001; Journal of Exercise).
Can someone elaborate when he talks about your circulatory system at 4:02.
Something about not closing while grabbing the handle...
He’s saying that the body is a closed hydraulic system. Meaning, that if you grip the handles on a machine too tightly, it restricts blood circulation, causing a buildup and increase in blood pressure. This is something to be avoided.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thanks
Are leg curls really necessary? I’ve seen mike in other videos doesn’t recommend em.
This is his mostly up to date routine for building muscle. In 2001 days before he passed away so yea, it is😊
So this is super set?
I have a question pls
I just saw the program video and it says no leg curls
But here he is doing it
These are leg extensions so focusing more on quads they look like leg curls
@@aliciahermosillo6589 9:29 Is this leg extension? Hell no
Let's move to calfs there's no reason to rest
I thought mentzer was against leg curls 🤔
Legit question, is Marcus still with us and active/training?
Yes he is! Las Vegas based
Hey John, I had a question on his ideal routine. Why does he do a leg day every other workout day?
To give the upper body muscles more recovery time.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGEwhat so say chest back, legs, shoulders arms, legs and so on?
@@RGY33 then you just continue the circle
it burned like hell
Is there a way to download or buy a copy of heavy duty II mind and body? It's his best work but i can't find it anywhere.
U can find a few of Mike's books here
@@icon5892 where? I'm asking about his second book.
Why did he do leg curls ?
This was a previous version of the final "Ideal routine"
Higher Marcos higher 😂
I hate you Mike, I hate you, I hate you 😂
Planet fitness would not allow this amount of grunting lol
What about squats?
They recommend leg press because it has a lower risk of injury
@@AshrafAli-qs6ep thanks for letting me know
No squat??
Yes, the squat is substituted for the leg press in leg workout number two in this program.
By seeing this my legs hurt😅
Bodybuilding is not an endurance concept
~MIKE MENTZER
who is that guy doing the lifts?
Question to the community: if I don’t have access to a leg extension machine, what movement can I substitute to hit the same muscle group? 🦵
I do squats tbh
I just put standard bar with weights on my lower shins. Make sure to put a pad on it so that it won't be painful
Wow that's TILL FAILURE Mike's Only style 😢🙏 in other note. The minute 8:45 when Markus stepped off the leg machine he can barely stand. Mike said
" I know how you feeling"
R.I.P. Mike Mentzer THE LAST REP The One that counts