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If this camera had ND’s in this form factor, it would be game over.
I do not know why build ND is such a big deal. I have 5-6 variable NDs. I mount one on each lens. So when I switch lens, it is already on the lens. I never feel the need of internal ND.
@@nightdonutstudiowell you see there's the problem, having to afford 5-6 high quality vnds aint so fun
@@nightdonutstudio it's hard to go back to VNDs after using internal NDs. Not a dealbreaker but a major annoyance for sure.
Completely agree it would be awesome!! Jake
@Kai Liu Visual I'd agree however that's a tedious process when shooting in run and gun environments. Speaking from experience.
Sold the FX3 got two FX30. The best camera is the FX30. Using super fast cine glass even at night there's no problem.
Always dig your videos. But this appraisal of the Fx3 is a bit odd. 1. updates: it took Sony ages to provide updates for the FX3, e.g. focus breathing compensation only came a few weeks ago. And we are still missing video fundamentals like waveform, shutter angle etc. Plus, the anamorphuc support is very basic 2. The IBIS is disappointing, when e.g comparing it to Panasonic. 3. the screen quality is poor, especially since you have to rely on it due to lack of EVF. Pair this with the lack of exposure tool and you have a hard time exposing when the camera is not rigged up. 4. no support for USB recording. And the list goes on.
Net net: I would not buy it again.
SSD via USB C. Should be clear, shouldnt it.
I only wish Sony gave us open gate on the FX3 and 6 tbh. Also, on another note, when you get the Laowa Ranger lenses, could you compare them to the DZO Catta and the fuji mk (on an equivalent configuration, for example the Laowa and catta at 28/4 and the MK at 18/2.9). They really are the main zoom options at this price point CVP is basically the only channel that does serious testing between products
Cheers from the other side of the Atlantic
I bought the first a7S3 in 2020. I was so impressed, I Bought a second one in 2021. With these two a7S3 I was recording 4k60 10 bit for 8 hours straight and was so impressed I bought a 3rd a7S3 in 2022.
It's been a hell of a journey as someone who bought this camera on its release date. The mania over the 'A7s3 in an expensive body' debate, seeing people judge our purchasing decision to then silently buying an FX3 of their own, now a feature length film shot on an FX3 and reneissance period... All the while just quietly enjoying, learning and having fun with this little powerhouse 🫠
@@citizengen how many filmmakers today rely on an EVF? If there's a niche solution that works for you better don't take it out on other niche solutions that work for others.
@@citizengen what century are you living in..?
@@citizengen not to be rude, but looking at modern filmmaking, how many shots nowadays rely on the classic eye level/shoulder rig style anymore? An extremely important angle nonetheless, but not enough to dedicate resources to an EVF for most filmmakers.
@@citizengen maybe I'm wrong but I think that's meant to be taken way less literally. Hands on/tactile shots are great but huge portions of modern and even somewhat classic films are shot with cranes/jibs/rigs/steadicams, what's the use in those scenarios? If somebody really likes the FX3 and wants an EVF they could just buy a third-party one. Additionally, the role of an EVF traditionally was framing/finding focus well before modern inventions like wireless monitoring, focus peaking or various autofocus systems existed. I'm an advocate for using what it takes to get the job done, and in my opinion the FX3 is a perfect prosumer take on a compact, modular cinema camera. No EVF required.
@Broskisnowski excellent point, but how is that related to this comment thread at all?
This is the absolute best camera ever! It exceeds on everything I need it for!
i just wish that sony will add some features like fx3 in a7s3 via firmware update
I've just bought one and I must admit I am blown away with the quality. The sound quality with the top handle is outstanding even using a cheap XLR mic. My only real problem coming from using the GH5 is the lack of an EVF, the Sony screen can be very difficult to see in bright sunlight and judging focus & exposure is therefore guesswork. I do have a separate monitor which helps if I have remembered to pack it!
If only the A7SIII had a firmware upgrade ... well ? That's why I switched to Nikon for Mirrorless Video Cameras.
you need to understand that FX3 it's intended to be used with an external monitor mate. Optionally you can build a 3D printed hood eye piece for the screen but that will defeat the purpose of "compactness"
@@darielrodriguez6984 I do have an external monitor but sometimes forget to pack it!
Its a budget cinema camera, meaning its supposed to be rigged while maintaining a small body to reduce weight.
I got so excited when I see a CVP noti upload. Even though I don’t own a camera yet but soon, hopefully. Your videos are so detailed, informative and amazing. Love it. ❤ 11:45
We must keep the faith that shutter angle will come in the next update, brothers!
It's an amazing camera except for the codecs. I hope they will go the Nikon route and introduce ProRes or internal RAW in future cameras.
Thanks, RED.
Its been confirmed that the fx3 was the main camera for the movie The Creator. Arri has mentioned no involvement with the movie, the fx3 is what was used.
Do you guys use a particular company to make your small QR asset tags or just make them in house? Would be interesting to see a video on how you track all your inventory.
Yes, would also love to know more about that
Informative video Thanks CVP.
Over here with an a7siii and just want a firmware update 🥴
All this talk of "CAN" look good makes me want to grab another Panasonic.
Its the same with Panasonic. Plenty of folks not knowing how to use panasonic vlog complain about it because they don't know how to develop it into proper rec709. Regardless of camera, if you don't know what you're doing, the results will likely be all over the place.
I own and work with FX 3, A7S III, A7 IV. I'm doing a lot of work actually with the A7 IV, due to the oversampling and astonishing crop in possibilities. But the internal fan and XLR audio makes the FX 3 indispensable. - I just recorded a concert with all three. The A7 IV overheated. The other ones were fine.
Yes just bought one and whole set of Kase filters. thanks for your video!
Truly brilliant camera.
Cine EI, DCI 4K, true 24FPS, lens breathing compensation, user LUTs, XLR inputs, active cooling system, great rolling shutter performance, outstanding low light, RAW output, the list goes on.
Incredible compact cine camera for any professional work.
I wouldn't say that FX3 has XLR-inputs, they are still provided only by an attachment. And many cameras have attachment that we wouldn't consider a feature of the camera.
so despite all the talk about canon R5, R5C, c70, it's the FX3 that's won the market share with pros
It's no surprise.
The Sony FS7 was absolutely dominant for years and years. And the FX9/FX6 were the natural successors to it.
Thus anybody who wants a B/C camera, or is an aspiring pro who wishes to step it up a level and get into more pro work, will naturally go for the FX3 (or FX30).
I’ll wait for FX3ii
The FX3 is amazing. I am very satisfied with mine. Dare I say the build quality is far nicer than the alpha bodies. So nice to work with and the XLR-handle is great. The FX30 is also a great -- a true workhorse robust video camera for an affordable price.
Sony needs to add Extended clear scan to the FX3
While the fx3 is amazing it seems like the fx30 is being slept on. I use it along with an fx6 and solo when traveling. It is unbelievable how good it is for the price! I just think the fact that it is seen as “apsc” instead of super 35 was criminal marketing by Sony.
Love my FX3. The only way it could be even better was if it had internal NDs. But I'm not gonna complain because the fact that I'm able to own a peice of technology like this still continues to blow my mind. 😂
I believe the reason internal ND's were not possible for these cameras was because of the stabilisation! Apparently due to the movement of the sensor, the mounting of an internal ND would need to have so much more room than the FX3 body allows!
Having used an FX6, the internal ND is amazing, but I love my FX3 and using a VND hasn't ever really bothered me haha
Or Sony releases a FIRMWARE UPDATE for the a7s3 seeing as they're the same camera... As a channel with significant following and exposure I'm disappointed you wouldn't mention this.
I think the reason the a7sIII hasn’t received any updates is because Sony is saving them for the a7sIV release.
IMO, the FX-30 has taken a huge bite out of the FX3's value:features ratio.
The only real things you're sacrificing is the stellar low light performance, sensor size and mechanical shutter if you're shooting high speed stills.
But you gain a better AF System, a higher res sensor (6k downsample, the difference is noticable), and access to good cheap super-35 glass without sensor cropping.
FOR HALF THE PRICE.
I think the most cost effective A+B pairing is currently an FX30+FX6.
FX3 has not taken that huge bite. I still prefer full-frame sensor because of the convenience. If you're only making short films or in control recording environment, FX30 will do the trick. But when it comes to run-n-gun for wedding events or events in general, having a full-frame sensor is far more superior.
@@harryvuemedia5106 S35 is superior for run-n-go / docos / etc, because your lens options are better and you don't have to stop as far down to maintain usable DoF as you have to do with so called "Full Frame"
Biggest issues with the fx3 for me have been 1. Price, at 5k in my country you can get a Nikon z8 which has a stacked 8k sensor with the same dynamic range and has internal raw and more video features than the fx3. 2. Lack of video features, the fx3 is a "cinema camera" yet lacks shutter angle and waveform which I use all the time and prevents me from ever recording in the wrong shutter speed. Sony needs to fix this, there is no excuse. 3. Degraded all-I, the bitrate of all-I codecs on all Sony cameras is a lower bitrate than on other camera brands which causes serious blocking and artifacts resulting in a worse image than using the long gop codecs, Sony needs to fix this. 4. The menu system, you still can't really change or add items to the quick menu which sucks, also log is separated from the other shooting modes so it's annoying trying to switch between them.5 there is no option to change the focus throw on lenses or switch them to linear focus like you can on Panasonic or Nikon so you can't adapt photo lenses for manual focus. 6. the colors have improved but skin tones still don't look as great right out of camera compared to canon and Panasonic. 7. You can't remove in camera noise reduction and 12800 second base iso is too high as the image is very mushy compared to a lower second base iso.
keep hoping sony adds shutter angle to the fx3/30.
I like the "jewel" base ISO.
Hey CVP, I am from India. I really enjoy watching your gear reviews. I am a beginner filmmaker. Which should I consider buying out of these four: Sony A7IV, Panasonic Lumix Mark IIX, Sony FX3 and Fujifilm XH2S
looking to pick up an fx 30 for a b cam to the BMPCC6k. it hits all the marks
Tilta Mirage VND system is my favorite for this camera
im thinking to get the S5IIX, tho i have looked at both the FX3 abd FX30
It also has recording button up front... I find this part of the video a bit misleading.
not 640 base iso? Sure i read that somewhere.
That was the case before the V3 update. It’s now 800 as of that firmware. Jake
I was searching HEAVILY for this comment so thanks for asking days ago for future me!! I was sweating bullets being confused 😅
I've been holding back my purchase on the FX3 because I was waiting for a newer version. And then the ZV-E1 came out with all the specs I wanted, but then it overheats especially at a tropical country where I'm based. Looking forward what Sony's has in store for us in the future.
I bought the FX3 last year. One of the best purchases I’ve ever made!
@@AnotherBrightIdea Until the version 2 comes out.
@@Slipsch It won't be for a while 👀
@@Slipsch way too many rigging options available for this to be an issue. Also doesn't make sense from the standpoint of product roll outs from Sony. I live in Singapore and FX3 is Godsend.
Do it.
Buy the FX3.
Buy the Fx30 is great and much cheaper
The one single thing that kills the FX3 and FX30 for me is the lack of internal NDs. That's a must-have for me in a cinema camera
I believe they are simply too small. Plus having IBIS as of right now seems to be a direct conflict with internal ND compatibility.
@TechnoBabble maybe a physical ND. But an electronic one should in theory be doable without conflicting with IBIS.
I regret selling my FX3 more than selling my FX6.
The FX3 is their premiere camera below $10K, IMO.
Super sir
Hey CVP, have you heard of a new version of the FX3 coming out anytime soon?
We have not no. Jake
More toys for the boys.
What lens adapter is being used in the thumbnail
"These cameras from Sony CAN look great..." high praise! 😉
4:58 16-bit RAW? Did I hear that right?
Magnetic NDs will change your life. I like the Kase Wolverine set.
Kase Skyeye set is even better because of the threaded front.
good day mate!
Fantastic video, I love the color. What LUT do you usually use?
Unfortunately, as the owner of a Sony a7siii , I felt cheated and left behind. This camera has been completely neglected after the release of a cinematic version ( fx3 ) that is periodically updated to match cinematic requirements.
You mention other cameras on The Creator? IMDB only mention FX3, can you confirm that? That is a huge deal if it’s a fact.
The limitation that I still don't understand with the FX3 (and the A7S3) is why can't you shoot in XAVC-HS in 25p and 30p. A mystery that only Sony knows the answers too...
It's a really powerful and fantastic camera. It would be amazing if Sony came up with an external tilting EVF that works with this. That might actually be more friendly for video folks than the traditional fixed EVF of the Sony Alpha series. Waiting to see what Sony comes up with when they release the Mark 2 versions of the FX3 and FX6.
i wish Sony updated the A7s3 firmware as well
Internal ND wish list
any internal fan or autofocus noise get recorded by the FX3 internal mikes? Or shotguns up top on handle? THanks.
that's great camera but should be less expensive even now after few year after release . And who knows when fx4 will be presented ?
Great video .. but if I may I have a question , to be honest I am new to the camera and for all the research I have done , I couldn’t find slog 3 in the camera options , could you answer this for me please ie how do I set slog 3 up.. thanks you
I cannot figure without EVF, personally.
A7S3 is abandoned and FX3 is nerfed on purpose
Filmed my first feature on it and love the versatility and quality of the camera. The dual base ISO is massive and really helps with spectacular night shots and opening up creative liberties.
But I share your gripe over the missing record button on the top handle. It can handle 24 bit audio, it surely has the bandwidth for a programmable button
This camera, with NDs, an EVF, the AI chip, 1.5 and 1.8 desqueeze would be perfect imo
Hey guys!!! I just bought an FX3 and there is a lot of moire in everysingle clip. HORRIBLE moire! I have an Bmpcc6k and a Fujifilm xh2s and I've never seen a single signal of moire. I can't recommend the Fx3 because it is and very expensive camera with an pretty standard image quality. Cheers!
It really blows my mind that a "cine" camera doesn't have shutter angle and can't shoot open gate...
I need some help a little torn. I have the 87S the FX3 and the A73 my dilemma is I’m thinking about getting rid of my A7S and trading it for a FX 30 and lens. What do you think? Any information would be greatly appreciated and helpful.
Hey, what a7S do you have? How come you want to replace with the FX30? What work do you mainly do? Jake
@@CVPTV I have the three and I was thinking it would be easier to match up with the FX3 and using the Cine EI WHICH THE A7SIII DOESN’T HAVE I’m into a lot. I want to get into shooting films, but also wedding videos and content to start and grow my page.
Love the content! Question: What external monitor would you recommend? I have a Small HD focus 5 but find it a bit difficult to see outside. I’m not overly bothered about internal recording. Purely just for visuals - Thanks
DSLR Video Shooter has a good video covering this. While I'm not fussed about a minor I've had friends seeking budget options and all I can say is be careful, you get what you pay for.
Hey which mic is that at 7:21? I’ve been looking for a stereo mic in this form factor for the longest!
skintone still a problem, but its so much better than a7s2
Has anyone heard about an FX3 II or FX4?
Your NDs ?
6:00 what gimbal?
FX3 is the GOAT
Would this be good for a wedding videographer?
Yes it would be fantastic for it!! Jake
I wish Sony would tone down the heavy pink tbh
No ooen gate in the reel age means no buy for me. No 6k means not future Proof also. Panasonic or fuji is what i am looking for.
Raw output is 16 bits but Atomos only admits 12 bits. You said “continuous” updates …. 😂 Shame for Sony on that… poor update policy for this “cinema” camera with no shutter angle, curves, false color…. I have one and that annoys me ….
My GH6 shoots Open Gate, paired with my Ninja V+ Capturing ProRes Raw @ 30fps ~ Sorry Sony, No Cigar!
superb video as always guys
I know you didn't even watch the video before the comment.
Fx3 is the new 5D markII.
In your face Canon.
RIP A7SIII and its firmware updates.
I wish Sony followed Fujifilm on their way to update all their camera lines.
No denying that Sony is a monster player but I just can't get past it's specific look. If it's the look you're going after, then it's a no brainer and a great value. If you're going after an organic look, Sony isn't it. AF and low light on Sony are great.
a quick fix though, prores raw on fx3 is 12bit instead of 16bit
It’s 16 bit converted into 12 bit. Similar to Arri Raw
With the Mercury Ana's how much did you have to crop in? Or were you shooting RAW to get more of the image? Thanks.
It can't shoot open gate ("raw"), you're stuck on a 16:9 (or 17:9?) aspect ratio (multiplied by whatever squeeze factor of the lens)
I use canon 700d im poor 😊😞
Quite a difference in price there. Wait for about 12 years for one cheap when someone sells it to get their FX 32k beastie.
You will be on the poor old 4k FX3. 😔
this cam is obvious unnecessary cause of the fx6. No Nd's, digital oversharped imagery and poor audio capabilities. I would say it is a good entry in the world of videomaking. But on production side it's not that good. I worked with both. Just pay little bit more and go get the fx6. I think in terms of this marketing campaign with "the creator", sony who is making this film wants to put this cam in spotlight. But take this with a grain of salt. Most footage was shot on Alexa 65 and even if they say they shot a lot on FX3. Do you really believe that a high budget hollywood movie isn't shot with best technique in case of DR and Color Bit-Depth/Codec for post?....Think about it. They used it as a crash cam for 100%
You sir might have a problem with critical thinking
Agree
Of course, they used it because of its size and it's an amazing camera for the size and form factor.
any proofs about Alexa? for the fx6 price would buy 2 fx3 and have the same image quality
@@mex5341 it's quite strange...First Alexa 65 was listed on imdb. Then Alexa 65 & Fx3. And now only Fx3 is listed which is ridiculous. Seems to be a full pr-stunt here haha
I prefer my C70. The RAW is just so much better than XAVC.
Love the C70 as well!!
and way bigger
@@mex5341 Integrated ND filters, much better battery, audio possibilities, Canon RAW, Timecode, ... 🤷♂️
@@Zemistr3D and way more expensive and crop
@@mex5341 Nah... Just 600 EUR difference
its too bulk
except for the size and the autofocus, I don't see how it's better than BMPCC 6K. BMPCC6K is still the king of the more-bang-for-your-buck cameras.
I don't want it.
Its pricy and crippled. Sponsored product tour. Nothing new