Elusive Glitches: The Case of the Fire Sanctuary Bird Statue in Skyward Sword
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2019
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The Fire Sanctuary bird statue has been a tease to Skyward Sword speedrunners since nearly the day the game released, and this video looks at why this is the case. It's not something that's relatively well-known about which is why I decided to cover it in this series.
The editing process for this video was much more streamlined than my last one. There are still some things that I could do to improve (such as finessing with the music/audio to make it sound more relaxing throughout the video), but overall I feel like I'm making progress. There are three more topics that I definitely want to make comprehensive videos on, but those topics are a little more complex than these last two, so I don't know how long it may take to make those. In any case, I hope you enjoyed this one, and continue to look forward to more (and thank you for reading the description unlike most viewers). 
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![Elusive Glitches: The Dumb Case of the Sandship Boss Key in Skyward Sword [Solved]](/img/1.gif)
So at the end you SOMEHOW got the Sandship boss key, which SOMEHOW opened the Boss Door to Fire Sanctuary anyway but SOMEHOW the loading zone failed to spawn, so Link jumped off of the map to his doom.
God I love game development.
and of course it's the Sandship boss key
just the games way of saying nope can't skip the sandship boss key this time try again later
It just works
That ending bit seems to be more evidence that the Sandship was the first dungeon worked on, if the Sandship's boss key is the default when opening a boss key chest.
Makes sense
i presume the weird layering is further evidence?
8:36
The game is just taunting you at this point. Imagine spending hours trying to find a way to get the early boss key in sandship, giving up and deciding to play around in fire sanctuary for a bit only to have the game go "oh you wanted this? Here you go lol"
Now we know where the octo boss key chest loads to from the last video. The mystery is solved.
Blu-Laguna So now all that needs to be done is to figure how to either BiT or wrong warp to the inner map of the fire sanctuary from the sand ship, grab the key, and warp back to the sand ship and the sand ship boss key skip will be solved *kappa*
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@@Blu_Laguna lol
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i like this video
Me too
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i like this video
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This game would be cracked wide open if we figured out how to move Link during the Bird Statue dialogue. I can't even imagine how much of the game could be skipped.
Is it possible to take damage the same frame as interacting with the statue to knock link back into the right bit warp zone? I forget if items are available during back in time...
it would be hilarious if the method to do so was something incredibly stupid and arbitrary and was also pointless. Like needing to die during the demise fight and somehow that magically changes something. I don't remember if you can even access a bird statue at that point in the game, but still.
actually,that would not exactly be pointless. we could use a cleared file to manipulate the speedrunfile then
@@EoroX I don't think you have any items in BIT, and there are no enemies on the map
basically paper mario save block storage then?
it's my favorite boss key, the one in fire sanctuary..
SQUID CARVING!
After watching Link fall through the floor after using the wrong boss key on the boss door, I'm willing to be there's at least one more Almost! But Not Quite! solution waiting in the wings
Have you tried pressing the jump button harder? *kappa*
Just full hop 4Head
"An A press is an A press, you can’t say it’s only a half!"
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HOW is it possible that a fall out of bounds trumps movement in a cutscene? It's like Nintendo made this game to house glitches that don't work in runs.
Love these kind of videos! Speedrun videos are usually very informative but it's also nice to see videos like these because it's more in depth.
we found the west clocktown birdstatue in skyward swords,nice
well, sorta. they seem less broken, and it was mentioned that there were more than one such out of bounds bird statue. That, and by the looks of it, the Hidden Owl Statue isn't a Wrong Warp like this is, since you're still warping to proper warp points (other Owl Statues) that you could've warped to anyways if you were far enough into the game, while you could never warp to a boss room like the Bird Statue here.
well,i mean,you can still crash the game with the owlstatue. that is not exactly normal
my theory is, the uninitialized statues pull their target value from RAM as any other statue, but that part of RAM is filled with something else and not a "teleport struct of fixed lenght", so it's target is set to a nonexistent node or map - hence the crash.
The question is now, how do we fill that area with valid data?
I know a lot about running OOT and MM but not much about Skyward Sword, so this is pretty cool.
5:47 ok that’s awesome
The whole "extra statue" thing reminds me of index warping from MM
These glitches are so weird, and I hope you do WAY more of these kinds of videos, whether you are talking about mysterious glitches or just explaining some more common ones like bitwarping.
Please continue making these Skyward Sword videos! These are really interesting and I feel like SS is so neglected as a speedgame/glitch hunt, and as someone who likes it, I'm glad to see it get its day in the limelight!
I hope you keep making these! They're super interesting and entertaining. Keep doing what you do.
got recommended to these two videos and I love them. Not too into watching speed runs, but I love seeing the way games are exploited by speedrunners. Please make more!
Bitwarping to the boss crashes paper mar- I mean skyward sword
Came here from PointCrow's stream last night. He somehow managed to do this skip in BOTW which had been modded to include the Fire Sanctuary dungeon. Would be funny if that skip works in the actual game.
Regardless, this video was super interesting!
I love these videos, Gym! Very interesting to listen to and I thoroughly enjoy learning about glitches in some of my favorite games. Keep it up!
This is a great video! I love how in-depth you are about explaining everything. Keep up the good work!
These vids are amazing, Gym. So well done. Keep it up!
This is so calming to watch! Keep it going Gym!
Loving the series! I haven't really followed SS speedruns since like 2013 or so, so it's cool to see these little oddities explained
Id love to see a lot more of these videos. They are super interesting to me and not to mention i love your voice for a voice over. Keep doing these informative videos!
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS SO MUCH! glitches are so interesting to me and speedrunning glitches? Even better!! Add zelda to the mix and this is my favorite thing ever
I'll keep on watching these videos for as long as you'll keep making them.
Excellent video again, really enjoying these!
Awesome video! Stumbled across this after watching the video on the sand ship key. Really like this type of content :)
love this new style of video keep it up gym!
Loving these new vids! I had no idea you were such a talented video editor!!
Loving these types of vids gym!
These kinds of videos are so awesome and interesting to watch
These videos are amazing Gym!!!!! Thank you for your voice as always ;) xxxxxxxx
he solved it ! what he needed to do is go to a house sleep at night go to the gratitude crystal demons tombstone activate it and load the file it warps him right in the temple
That's for entering the Earth Temple, not skipping the Fire Sanctuary key
So this is what you meant by the Sandship BK being in Fire Sanctuary, I was honestly kinda lost when you talked about it
Why does a copy of that room event exist on that map let alone have the wrong goddamn key in it
two likely scenarios are, 1, the chest just exists, and when open the game loads a random/expected piece of data, mistakenly pulls sandship key, or second, possible both dungeons were being worked on at the same time, and a key had been placed there to begin with, but was over wrote as the sandship key, and in the final build of the dungeon where the chest is spose to exist, that one is set correctly. and the other one got left alone, since they never expected anyone to reach it anyways. My theory anyways.
Because he entered a room from the wrong map. The door he opened was on the outer map...but he was in the inner map's version of it (the version you see from the inner map).
So the game pulled random data that it was expecting to find (IE the position of the chest through that particular loading zone) but due to being the wrong place for the loading zone, ended up pulling junk data that gave the wrong item.
The final door also was on the inner map's version of the outer so it never actually was designed to have collision / a load zone so you fall.
I love whenever gym posts one of these skyward sword theory videos
These are amazing man, so interesting to see these potential skips.
So I did some glitches and I got the fire scantuary boss key in sandship.Fell through a void opening the boss door.
The Devs were prepared!!!
This was an awesome explanation, great video :D
these videos are really great, keep it up!
Fantastic video, as always. :-D I find it interesting that a slight boost in height is not possible to make that jump. These videos definitely pique my interest in speedrunning these games.
Love this kind of vids, even though it's frustrating to see how close the situations are to be ideal. Makes me want to boot the game and try crossing that damn gap !
These glitch videos are pretty good
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You're doing great with these videos! It's a bit of a shame, but hopefully these videos also inspire people do some glitch hunting to expand on this video
This is a great video! Love these.
3:37 huh. Reminds me of Majora’s Mask’s misplaced bird statue
I feel like they purposefully made that gap JUST too far to jump.
eri they probably did
I don't even do speedruns but these videos are so entertaining.
I love these types of videos. Also, if you could somehow sequence break to get to fire sanctuary before Sandship and got the Sandship boss key from fire sanctuary, you could theortically go back and skip getting the actual boss key. That could be interesting for a potential all dungeons skyward sword category in the future. This also raises a question though, why is this bird statue the only one in the game where you can go from a dungeon striaght to the sky before leaving. Pretty weird. Looking forward to more of these.
if you came here from point crow you don't need to skip any of the video as most of it is talking about it
tbh i had 0 interest in Skyward Sword before but these videos are insanely entertaining! Keep up the great work gymnast
Man, these are like summoningsalt videos, I like these
Half the videos of your I stumble upon just give me glitching blue balls
These videos are fantastic
i really love technical videos about games
especially older 8 or 16 bit games. but these are just as interesting
Thank you for making these vids!😍
came from pointcrow, I don't know how I missed this vid before but I feel so big-brained now 🥺💖
I was trying so hard to prepare myself for anything that the ending was potentially building up to. I still wasn't ready.
This is a great video!! Your voice is nice
Nice vid!
Cool video!
Great videos, keep it up 👍
Of course I read the description gym ;)
I love this series
Great video
So that's where the Sandship key went!
Have you tried using a bomb to extend your jump? It might make it just enough to get over that gap
this was a pretty nice video.
This is... An extraordinarily niche topic... But I love it...
great video, we like it
6:02 Link's having a rough day
So, if it were somehow possible to do Fire Sanctuary first, then grab the Sandship Boss key in the inner map, do the Fire Sanctuary, then return to the Sandship with the key already in hand, would that save any time?
Ohh this reminds me of that one glitch in Majora's mask with the secret owl statue.
Looking back at videos like this after seeing Skyward Sword being blown open through RBM, it gives a weird feeling.
Interesting stuff.
Can bombs knock you back during bird dialogue, or at least in the same frame as starting bird dialogue? And, if so, can a bomb knock you back into the required OOB BIT area?
I know this video is old an I probably aren't thinking of anything someone else hasn't brought up, but would it be possible to bitwarp from bit faron or another, different bit map?
This thumbnail is epic
Gets wrong key but instantly fits the lock and falls out of bounds when entering the door.
This kind of reminds me of the West clock town extra bird statue in MM
Ok, is that ACTUALLY the Sandship key, or is the game just loading the wrong assets and still giving you the key for the Fire Sanctuary, and if it IS the Sandship key, would there be any potential way for you to take it over to the actual sandship and skip having to run through most of the Sandship if you could actually obtain it?
That would be interesting to see...
I performed the wrong warp accidentally at the beginning of my Zelda binge this year when I wanted to see what would happen if I sequence broke that game. For example, theres an inactive gate of time in the temple of time if you use a levitate code to get there, tho you can’t activate it
nice vid m8
More skyward swords videos please!!!
More gymnast less go
Hey gym I’m wanting to run skyward sword but I only have an English copy, is there another way to get a Japanese copy/change the language other than just buying one?
9:18 speaks to me on a personal level
At the end Link realises how confusing this is and kills himself
I was told there's a Link in the description, can't find him :/
@gymnast86 Do you happen to have an emulator save state where Link is on that pillar? So some of us noobs could use it and try to make that jump somehow.
have you tried using the squid key on the sandship boss door?
Majora's Mask is sitting in the corner, laughing at how easy it would be if you just dropped a bomb and turned to zora.
The mogma mitts are no longer needed. But the boss key still is.
So it’s like the forbidden owl statue in majoras mask?
Can't you cross extra space over the gap by sidehopping into a jump attack?
Checked the list and noticed a † next the Hylia's Realm / Behind the Temple Door wrong warp.
"† - *Link's sound set will change into a **_Bokoblin's,_* no events will trigger, & actors will be missing." I'm gonna need some evidence for _that._
The one solution to this I can think of is:
Is it possible to backflip and access the bird statue for a BiTwarp on the same frame, sending you backwards and saving with the correct out of bounds coordinates?
Or does accessing the bird statue pause physics calculations?