Hi Ed, Thank you so much for your thoughtful review of the UltimateSensor and UltimateSensor Mini! :) Regarding the pointing out the variations in sensor data. It’s important to note that these sensors are self-calibrating and may require a few hours to stabilize initially. Furthermore, the CO2 levels can be manually calibrated as detailed in the manual to ensure accuracy. I'm committed to continually improving the product through software updates that will not only refine sensor accuracy but also introduce new features and enhance stability. For instance, I’m currently working on a local wake word feature that will significantly speed up response times-an exciting development, especially as not many ESP devices support this! More automation examples will also be added to the documentation soon. The ultimatesensor (mini) is relatively new and is set to expand substantially. Stay tuned for more updates and features! :D
Interesting combination of a lot of sensors, but I would not combine a presence sensor with a speaker/microphone. A presence sensor typically needs a precise position, often near a wall pointing towards the inner space. A speaker/microphone however is mostly put on a central place, eg. on a table. But it all depends on everyone's situation and usage. Anyway, good to have a European alternative for Lewis' Everything Presence sensor, which unfortunately is too expensive in Europe due to custom taxes.
I've never once had an PIR sensor be a whole SECOND faster than mmWave, in fact, having used PIR sensors in my smart home for years now, I would say my new mmWave sensors are as fast, if not faster, to the extent that I do not see the point of the expense of including a PIR sensor anymore. In my opinion, the Ultimate Sensor should have gotten rid of the display and the PIR sensor, and included a speaker and microphone instead, to truly be the "Ultimate" sensor. The PoE for me is extremely high value, but not at the expense of the speaker and mic.
The temp and humidity measurement can be influenced by the esp chip heating up. Is the case 3D printed and what is the finish like. Would like to have moulded cases, but that setup is expensive for a startup.
Dear Ed, as usual I enjoy your videos. They are very educational. If you make a video in the future where you do some programming. I would like you to explain something about keyboard shortcuts. After a lot of trying, I discovered the combination CRTL-F to replace similar texts. I saw in a video that you selected a text and moved it at the same time. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. Perhaps it is also interesting from others.
I had no clue that there's some Dutch guy (with an American name??) making such cool sensors. I make my own esphome multisensor devices but these are far more capable. I'll be considering these for the future! Unfortunate that the PoE can't be combined with voice. Hopefully some manufacturer will produce an esp32 chip that supports both.
Hello from Frankfurt, I watched your video and was pretty excited about the ultimate sensor. Now this one arrived and I am more than a little disappointed. Cheap workmanship, an Ethernet interface that doesn't work (WLAN is OK) and sensor values that are very different from other systems (f.e. BOSCH sensor / 50 cm away). BOSCH O2 Measured CO2 (carbon dioxide) value 458ppm / ultimatesensor SCD41 CO2 1000 ppm BOSCH VOC Measured VOC value 192µg/m³ Index VOX 32 / ultimatesensor VOC Index 55 Even temperature and humidity do not match within acceptable tolerances. I have saved the rest. But... you make nice videos. My compliment. Thomas
Great video, answered all my question. I decided to go with the mini and have it setup. I tried to use your dashboard code and everything works fine except seeing the person/object in the zone (Live persons detected map), nothing show up. Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
@@dwains Everything else on the page seems to be working just fine (graphs and values). In the values it will show when a person is detected and distance and other values, but it will not be shown in the "Live persons detected map"
I'm confused by the instructions for your code. I've downloaded the Plotly-graoh card add-on. I've created a new tab in my dashboard to display the card. When I open the Raw Configuration editor, it's already full of code. Where do I put your code? Thanks.
Actually, this would be really good for the kitchen. Not only will it detect if people are in the room and Laos provides temp/humidity for the Thermal Comfort HACS addon, but also, with the VOC sensor, it can detect if something is burning, and we can create automation to open the blinds and send a notification and so on. But for $233.62AUD AKA 135 euro plus delivery, the price is too high for my blood. A
These seem amazing sensors, I now want them 😂. The only thing that doesn’t make sense to me is why the Mini has voice and the Big version doesn’t. To me with it having the name mini, it should be the one without the voice as the big version should have the bells and whistles
Simply said: The "big version" has Ethernet+PoE, the ESP chip that you need to use for Ethernet doesn't support voice + speaker at the current state of development of esp hardware and software side. The mini on other hand uses a special esp for the voice + ethernet part which doesn't support ethernet.
Very cool idea.. very much out of my budget for a single device. I'd love to have the option for no presence and only air quality (PMs, NOX, TVOC, CO2) at half the price if he's listening. I already have a lot of much cheaper Hinet presence sensors around the house. The voice assistant (mic+speaker) is very cool though Bah all moot, they ship 'worldwide' but not to my country.. guess I'm on Mars
I was going to finally purchase one of these, after being too stingy for a while now. I was hoping there'd be a coupon code so that you would have some sort of benefit from people ordering, and us viewers perhaps saving a few bucks (this is no criticism to you, I know it's not up to you whether or not you get coupons codes from the manufacturer). Then, at least when trying to order via mobile, I didn find an option NOT to purchase the mount (was 9 something, now only 7 something). So I'm out. The device looks lovely, and I'm sure it's money we'll spent, but while the "complete works" costs make sense to me for the sensor (development, testing, parts etc.), mandatorily being charged for a mount I could just create myself does not. (and yeah, they could just charge more for the entire device and include the mount, but in this case it's a separate item that you - at least when I tried to on mobile - cannot remove from the shopping cart. I would have loved having this, but I doubt I'd really _need_ it, considering I have all this already, just as separate zigbee or esphome devices. However, thank you for this detailed video - and making me jealous, of course ;-)
Thank you for your comment and feedback. I must say that I didn't know this issue existed. I directly fixed it on the webshop. On mobile now you also have a button "Remove product from cart" on the cart page if you want to remove something. The wallmount is by default checked yes but you can easily uncheck it on the product page, and also now just remove it on the checkout page. The wallmount also has stainless steel screws and I think the price is fair because I need to have a seperate stock for them. I had them included by default but not everybody wanted it so that's why its now an option for people :) I always listen to the feedback of people so just wanted to let you know that. Also I can not give any discount on this because the price is already good, I make really low profit on this product and I need to assemble each order by hand, give support etc. Trust me the price is already as low as possible. Also giving a coupon to Ed wouldn't be fair to all other people who already bought it before this youtube video in my opinion.
Very cool devices. Where do these ship from? (Trust me I am a long way away! ) Also is the mini easier to set up and use and will it be better for local voice (with more updates etc) than the S3Box 3 devices? (which are crap). I would need a better speaker and mic than what's in the S3Box 3. (which is really a toy). Finally I assume no bluetooth? (for bluetooth trackers) Thanks!
No matter which version you choose: Actually quite cheap for such all-in-one products with accurate sensors including an mmWave device, microphone and speaker if you ask me! Design might be initially inspired by an Ikea design, but that's not a bad thing as that design is pretty good to begin with.
With non-WiFi sensors / devices you will loose the functionality of realtime reporting, as ZigBee devices in this category often only report in like 10 minutes or so. So they might report deadly CO2 levels way too late. But you still can go for the UTP connected version? And for now I'm not keen on Matter yet, it is still in it's infancy stages and not really standardised (and sometimes even usable for the average user) yet. Besides that the devices have a widely supported & highly integratable ESP sensor in it, which can be used in a broad range of home automation solutions.
2.5 degrees in temperature measurement difference, seriously??? why do you need such a sensor at all. maybe the case heats up due to the large number of sensors?
I must say that I am excited about these sensors. Would you buy them as well?
Hi Ed,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful review of the UltimateSensor and UltimateSensor Mini! :)
Regarding the pointing out the variations in sensor data. It’s important to note that these sensors are self-calibrating and may require a few hours to stabilize initially. Furthermore, the CO2 levels can be manually calibrated as detailed in the manual to ensure accuracy.
I'm committed to continually improving the product through software updates that will not only refine sensor accuracy but also introduce new features and enhance stability. For instance, I’m currently working on a local wake word feature that will significantly speed up response times-an exciting development, especially as not many ESP devices support this!
More automation examples will also be added to the documentation soon. The ultimatesensor (mini) is relatively new and is set to expand substantially. Stay tuned for more updates and features! :D
If they can bring the mic and speaker to the full size one I'll buy one. It's pricey, but worth every penny to have PoE
I have the Mini and it's fantastic. And I look forward to the new features!
Awesome :)
Is the presence sensor part of it very reliable regarding the zones?
@@settlece Yes :)
@@settlece There are a dozen or more readings from the sensor. I have yet to figure out the zones.
Interesting combination of a lot of sensors, but I would not combine a presence sensor with a speaker/microphone. A presence sensor typically needs a precise position, often near a wall pointing towards the inner space. A speaker/microphone however is mostly put on a central place, eg. on a table. But it all depends on everyone's situation and usage.
Anyway, good to have a European alternative for Lewis' Everything Presence sensor, which unfortunately is too expensive in Europe due to custom taxes.
Thanks, I was about to get the big one thinking it also had voice assistance but I'll get the mini instead.
Good choice!
Good Video again 👍👍👍 yes, i like to get the mini
I've never once had an PIR sensor be a whole SECOND faster than mmWave, in fact, having used PIR sensors in my smart home for years now, I would say my new mmWave sensors are as fast, if not faster, to the extent that I do not see the point of the expense of including a PIR sensor anymore.
In my opinion, the Ultimate Sensor should have gotten rid of the display and the PIR sensor, and included a speaker and microphone instead, to truly be the "Ultimate" sensor. The PoE for me is extremely high value, but not at the expense of the speaker and mic.
That is currently impossible as explained in multiple other comments :)
The temp and humidity measurement can be influenced by the esp chip heating up.
Is the case 3D printed and what is the finish like. Would like to have moulded cases, but that setup is expensive for a startup.
8:36 Did you tried to swap the two mmwave sensor? Maybe the would give some info about the anomaly.
Dear Ed, as usual I enjoy your videos. They are very educational. If you make a video in the future where you do some programming.
I would like you to explain something about keyboard shortcuts. After a lot of trying, I discovered the combination CRTL-F to replace similar texts. I saw in a video that you selected a text and moved it at the same time. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. Perhaps it is also interesting from others.
I believe I did that by using the tab key.
I had no clue that there's some Dutch guy (with an American name??) making such cool sensors.
I make my own esphome multisensor devices but these are far more capable.
I'll be considering these for the future!
Unfortunate that the PoE can't be combined with voice.
Hopefully some manufacturer will produce an esp32 chip that supports both.
Yoda's voice made me laugh.
Love the outtakes 🤣
Hello from Frankfurt,
I watched your video and was pretty excited about the ultimate sensor. Now this one arrived and I am more than a little disappointed. Cheap workmanship, an Ethernet interface that doesn't work (WLAN is OK) and sensor values that are very different from other systems (f.e. BOSCH sensor / 50 cm away).
BOSCH O2 Measured CO2 (carbon dioxide) value 458ppm / ultimatesensor SCD41 CO2 1000 ppm
BOSCH VOC Measured VOC value 192µg/m³ Index VOX 32 / ultimatesensor VOC Index 55
Even temperature and humidity do not match within acceptable tolerances.
I have saved the rest.
But... you make nice videos. My compliment. Thomas
Wow, breathtakingly expensive. Need to have a great use case for this price.
Are these available in the USA?
It ships worldwide from the Netherlands
for the right price anyone can have it.
Great video, answered all my question. I decided to go with the mini and have it setup. I tried to use your dashboard code and everything works fine except seeing the person/object in the zone (Live persons detected map), nothing show up. Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
The normal entities from the mmwave do they show any data?
@@dwains Everything else on the page seems to be working just fine (graphs and values). In the values it will show when a person is detected and distance and other values, but it will not be shown in the "Live persons detected map"
@@dwains I figured out what the issue was. Thanks for your post.
Calibration of the sensor takes a few days. Could also be a reason why its not the same.
That is so expensive for me to justify getting it.
This thingy makes me want to try out home assistant
Its free :)
I'm confused by the instructions for your code. I've downloaded the Plotly-graoh card add-on. I've created a new tab in my dashboard to display the card. When I open the Raw Configuration editor, it's already full of code. Where do I put your code? Thanks.
Create a new dashboard and put the code in there
Actually, this would be really good for the kitchen. Not only will it detect if people are in the room and Laos provides temp/humidity for the Thermal Comfort HACS addon, but also, with the VOC sensor, it can detect if something is burning, and we can create automation to open the blinds and send a notification and so on. But for $233.62AUD AKA 135 euro plus delivery, the price is too high for my blood. A
These seem amazing sensors, I now want them 😂. The only thing that doesn’t make sense to me is why the Mini has voice and the Big version doesn’t. To me with it having the name mini, it should be the one without the voice as the big version should have the bells and whistles
Simply said: The "big version" has Ethernet+PoE, the ESP chip that you need to use for Ethernet doesn't support voice + speaker at the current state of development of esp hardware and software side. The mini on other hand uses a special esp for the voice + ethernet part which doesn't support ethernet.
Very cool idea.. very much out of my budget for a single device. I'd love to have the option for no presence and only air quality (PMs, NOX, TVOC, CO2) at half the price if he's listening. I already have a lot of much cheaper Hinet presence sensors around the house.
The voice assistant (mic+speaker) is very cool though
Bah all moot, they ship 'worldwide' but not to my country.. guess I'm on Mars
May I ask which country this is? Then I can check my webshop software settings. Thank you.
@@dwains Hi Dwains, Thanks for the follow up: Mauritius
I was going to finally purchase one of these, after being too stingy for a while now. I was hoping there'd be a coupon code so that you would have some sort of benefit from people ordering, and us viewers perhaps saving a few bucks (this is no criticism to you, I know it's not up to you whether or not you get coupons codes from the manufacturer).
Then, at least when trying to order via mobile, I didn find an option NOT to purchase the mount (was 9 something, now only 7 something). So I'm out.
The device looks lovely, and I'm sure it's money we'll spent, but while the "complete works" costs make sense to me for the sensor (development, testing, parts etc.), mandatorily being charged for a mount I could just create myself does not. (and yeah, they could just charge more for the entire device and include the mount, but in this case it's a separate item that you - at least when I tried to on mobile - cannot remove from the shopping cart.
I would have loved having this, but I doubt I'd really _need_ it, considering I have all this already, just as separate zigbee or esphome devices.
However, thank you for this detailed video - and making me jealous, of course ;-)
Thank you for your comment and feedback. I must say that I didn't know this issue existed. I directly fixed it on the webshop. On mobile now you also have a button "Remove product from cart" on the cart page if you want to remove something. The wallmount is by default checked yes but you can easily uncheck it on the product page, and also now just remove it on the checkout page. The wallmount also has stainless steel screws and I think the price is fair because I need to have a seperate stock for them. I had them included by default but not everybody wanted it so that's why its now an option for people :) I always listen to the feedback of people so just wanted to let you know that. Also I can not give any discount on this because the price is already good, I make really low profit on this product and I need to assemble each order by hand, give support etc. Trust me the price is already as low as possible. Also giving a coupon to Ed wouldn't be fair to all other people who already bought it before this youtube video in my opinion.
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Very cool devices. Where do these ship from? (Trust me I am a long way away! ) Also is the mini easier to set up and use and will it be better for local voice (with more updates etc) than the S3Box 3 devices? (which are crap). I would need a better speaker and mic than what's in the S3Box 3. (which is really a toy). Finally I assume no bluetooth? (for bluetooth trackers) Thanks!
It ships from the Netherlands.
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5:29 Whoa!! How about a volume warning next time? I’m listening on headphones and you made my ears bleed 😂!
Get rid of the air quality sensors and add the voice control to the large one and I'd totally buy it.
Downside is a huge one. If a sensor is not reliable no way to buy it.
All sensors are reliable, they are expensive but thrustly.
@@dwains 2 sensor in the same area with 2 degree of difference does not appear to be reliable.
@@Lordsheva80 If you read further and in comments here you see that Ed didn't had the sensor calibrated , that was the issue.
Seems quite a price for a hacked IKEA airsensor!
I wouldn't call this a hacked Ikea sensor...
No matter which version you choose:
Actually quite cheap for such all-in-one products with accurate sensors including an mmWave device, microphone and speaker if you ask me!
Design might be initially inspired by an Ikea design, but that's not a bad thing as that design is pretty good to begin with.
This product is definitely not an IKEA product haha
The price is high but it's not an IKEA product by a long shot.
Wifi connected? That's a no-go.
I'll only buy matter/thread sensors, or ZigBee...
With non-WiFi sensors / devices you will loose the functionality of realtime reporting, as ZigBee devices in this category often only report in like 10 minutes or so. So they might report deadly CO2 levels way too late.
But you still can go for the UTP connected version?
And for now I'm not keen on Matter yet, it is still in it's infancy stages and not really standardised (and sometimes even usable for the average user) yet. Besides that the devices have a widely supported & highly integratable ESP sensor in it, which can be used in a broad range of home automation solutions.
What is it what you are looking for in a sensor or device like this feauture wise?
2.5 degrees in temperature measurement difference, seriously??? why do you need such a sensor at all.
maybe the case heats up due to the large number of sensors?
It all depends on calibration of the user the flow/curve/statistics are really trustworthy