When I was first testing the Airgradient One I was interested to see what caused the PM spikes I was seeing. I traced one major source down to making toast. The PM levels and VOCs from that were pretty high, despite not burning the toast. Putting the cooker hood on when making toast got rid of both levels. Not sure what particular VOC was coming off the bread but not all VOCs are harmful so I'm still going to make and eat toast.
PM is stupid and should net be measured inside!! who still burns wood in their house???? nobody so why measure small particles??? unless someone lives in crappy poluted city..but what you gonna do about it? open a window? no..so pm 2.5 sensors are STUPID
I believe you need to calibrate the CO2 sensor by (preferably) putting the unit outside at night time and triggering a calibration. At 8:24, the dashboard shows 282ppm CO2 concentration. Given the ambient CO2 concentration is higher than that, I think the offset used for measurements is not right.
Achim from AirGradient here. Yes I noticed that too. Often after transportation the monitor needs to run for 7 days for the automatic baseline calibration to kick in or it can also be manually calibrated. After that initial period it runs normally very accurately.
@@achimhaug7668 I have two of these and found that you have to manually recalibrate the C02 sensor every so often as they drift upwards. It's a bit of PITA but a portable power pack helps as you can take them outside and trigger the recalibration. Other than that, I'm very happy with mine.
Try to adjust the ABC days on the configuration to 30 days and make sure you ventilate at least once per month. That could help reminisce the upwards drift.
I have the AG One as well as the Apollo AIR-1 and they both provide detailed air quality information in separate rooms. Integrate seemlessy with HA and have great support from the developers. Expensive when compared to the big box options, like the IKEA devices, but the sensor quality is exponentially better. Both the AG One and AIR-1 have provided peace of mind and allowed us to address poor air quality in our home. Game changers? Probably not, but the data is extremely useful as part of making a safer smart home.
The $50 IKEA option is actually quite good, it has a nice sensor. The way it displays the information is more confusing, though. That’s a really good option for people into 3D printing and wanting to keep an eye on VOCs. I use the AG One and it’s just easier to read plus has more sensors.
Thanks for this video. I’ve used several different air quality sensors including 2 different ones from Aqara. They are not accurate as they calculate an approximation of CO2. There are not that many products with high quality sensors. I bought 3 Airthings View Plus which are very good sensors but even more expensive and no local integration (cloud only integration with HA). They have radon sensors which I wanted specifically for some rooms but lack an NOX sensor instead. I’ve seen these used a lot in commercial office building also. For additional rooms I’ll definitely consider these sensors. I use it automations with Air Cleaners from Philips and Xiaomi, humidifiers and dehumidifiers from Xiaomi and Midea. Yes, I take my air quality seriously 😂
It sounds like you take your air quality very seriously! Thanks for sharing your experience with different sensors and how you integrate them into your home setup.
Apollo AIR-1 is the best one! It's cheaper and works up to 10 years (has sensor self cleaning) compared to the other sensors that you need to replace every 3-5 years.
Interesting. The comparison to hobby ESP projects is a little bit off (or extreme). It would be interesting to see how this (seemingly calibrated) device compares to more advanced ESP sensors such as the two from Apollo. That would help users to decide if they want to trade of a certain level of accuracy with a smaller device size (the AirGradiant One looks fairly big in comparison)
@@SmartHomeJunkie would it be possible to share you thoughts here? I was about to buy the Apolo but now really wonder if it makes sense to buy a calibrated one
Looks nice and definitely appreciate that it can be integrated natively into Home Assistant and run completely disconnected from the cloud. As for your PM values in the kitchen, that's most likely from cooking. Heating up oil in a frying pan releases quite a bit of PM2.5 values, even far before it's hot enough to see visible smoke.
For those in The Netherlands who want to order: - package comes from Thailand. - Shipping costs: 25 Euro - Shipment time: About 1,5 week in my case. Traceability with PostNL in NL is not very good, you need to call with PostNL for track & trace info. - No custom or import fees for me. Be sure to check with customs if this is also true for you before ordering.
I appreciate you providing such detailed information for those in the Netherlands looking to order. It's valuable to know about the shipping costs and possible customs fees.
@@SmartHomeJunkie good to hear that they also use packing friendly material! Nice review by the way. You always inspire me with new smart home devices. Best smart home channel! I’m looking forward to your ultimate sensor review.
Yea, I'm gonna stick with my DIY ESPHome sensor I made that actually tells you some of the gases and particulate in the air instead of just measuring a overall general VOC count. Damn near EVERYTHING releases VOC's so the total count is pretty much pointless for 99% of uses. Good advertisement for your new partner though, just please mark the video as an advertisement next time, thanks!
I think it's actually quite reasonably priced, especially because it's a very feature rich (lots of high quality & accurate sensors with a long lifespan) device, and other brands are asking way more money for way less functionality for a higher price.This often goes with a paid subscribtion model as well. Plus you rely on the manufacturer for buying and replacing the sensors because they use proprietary packages for their sensors (often the same ones used in the One & Open Air model). In the AirGradient One & Open Air you can replace them easily and buy the sensor from any supplier you prefer. I bought my AirGradient One 2 weeks ago. Pre-assembled, tested and calibrated, which raised the price. However I'm willing to pay that amount because it saves me time, I know I have a decent and trustable product and I can use it without being confronted with planned obsolescence or the manufacturer going bankrupt and not being able to use the device anymore. Also: you can use this device completely local, it's open source (flashable with ESP home), gets regularly firmware updates and you can use & integrate it just the way you want 😀
Ya very expensive. I got a couple of the Ikea zigbee sensors which do temp, humidity, PM25 and VOC. They don’t do CO2 but I think they are still good value at a fraction of the price.
Achim from AirGradient here. We would love to offer the monitor at lower prices but the sensor modules we use like the SenseAir S8 NDIR CO2 sensor are quite expensive but guarantee a pretty good accuracy. You can get much cheaper air quality monitors but very often they are hugely inaccurate or they miss important sensors like the CO2.
What do you think about Air Quality Sensors? Is this something you would use in your (Smart) Home?
Not at that price point ...
Thanks for the review. Thought about buying it but then decided to use the air-q sensor, which is also very well integrated in HA
I'm happy to contribute to people who help me. Good to be a member of the channel.
When I was first testing the Airgradient One I was interested to see what caused the PM spikes I was seeing. I traced one major source down to making toast. The PM levels and VOCs from that were pretty high, despite not burning the toast. Putting the cooker hood on when making toast got rid of both levels.
Not sure what particular VOC was coming off the bread but not all VOCs are harmful so I'm still going to make and eat toast.
Thanks for sharing your experience and the tip about using the cooker hood - it's really helpful!
PM is stupid and should net be measured inside!! who still burns wood in their house???? nobody so why measure small particles??? unless someone lives in crappy poluted city..but what you gonna do about it? open a window? no..so pm 2.5 sensors are STUPID
I believe you need to calibrate the CO2 sensor by (preferably) putting the unit outside at night time and triggering a calibration. At 8:24, the dashboard shows 282ppm CO2 concentration. Given the ambient CO2 concentration is higher than that, I think the offset used for measurements is not right.
Achim from AirGradient here. Yes I noticed that too. Often after transportation the monitor needs to run for 7 days for the automatic baseline calibration to kick in or it can also be manually calibrated. After that initial period it runs normally very accurately.
You are correct. I moved the unit around my house without calibrating it in every room. My bad.
@@achimhaug7668 I have two of these and found that you have to manually recalibrate the C02 sensor every so often as they drift upwards. It's a bit of PITA but a portable power pack helps as you can take them outside and trigger the recalibration. Other than that, I'm very happy with mine.
Try to adjust the ABC days on the configuration to 30 days and make sure you ventilate at least once per month. That could help reminisce the upwards drift.
I have the AG One as well as the Apollo AIR-1 and they both provide detailed air quality information in separate rooms. Integrate seemlessy with HA and have great support from the developers. Expensive when compared to the big box options, like the IKEA devices, but the sensor quality is exponentially better. Both the AG One and AIR-1 have provided peace of mind and allowed us to address poor air quality in our home. Game changers? Probably not, but the data is extremely useful as part of making a safer smart home.
So cool that the AG One and AIR-1 are keeping your air quality top-notch. Cheers to breathing easy!
The $50 IKEA option is actually quite good, it has a nice sensor. The way it displays the information is more confusing, though. That’s a really good option for people into 3D printing and wanting to keep an eye on VOCs.
I use the AG One and it’s just easier to read plus has more sensors.
Thanks for this video. I’ve used several different air quality sensors including 2 different ones from Aqara. They are not accurate as they calculate an approximation of CO2. There are not that many products with high quality sensors. I bought 3 Airthings View Plus which are very good sensors but even more expensive and no local integration (cloud only integration with HA). They have radon sensors which I wanted specifically for some rooms but lack an NOX sensor instead. I’ve seen these used a lot in commercial office building also. For additional rooms I’ll definitely consider these sensors. I use it automations with Air Cleaners from Philips and Xiaomi, humidifiers and dehumidifiers from Xiaomi and Midea. Yes, I take my air quality seriously 😂
It sounds like you take your air quality very seriously! Thanks for sharing your experience with different sensors and how you integrate them into your home setup.
Can you view on AG one's website live as well or only history?
Yes you can
Apollo AIR-1 is the best one! It's cheaper and works up to 10 years (has sensor self cleaning) compared to the other sensors that you need to replace every 3-5 years.
Interesting. The comparison to hobby ESP projects is a little bit off (or extreme). It would be interesting to see how this (seemingly calibrated) device compares to more advanced ESP sensors such as the two from Apollo. That would help users to decide if they want to trade of a certain level of accuracy with a smaller device size (the AirGradiant One looks fairly big in comparison)
I appreciate your thoughtful comment. Comparing the AirGradient One to more advanced sensors like Apollo's is a great suggestion.
@@SmartHomeJunkie would it be possible to share you thoughts here? I was about to buy the Apolo but now really wonder if it makes sense to buy a calibrated one
@@dan-in-asia I don't think I can give you advice on that because I have no experience with the Apollo sensors.
Looks nice and definitely appreciate that it can be integrated natively into Home Assistant and run completely disconnected from the cloud.
As for your PM values in the kitchen, that's most likely from cooking. Heating up oil in a frying pan releases quite a bit of PM2.5 values, even far before it's hot enough to see visible smoke.
Yeah, my cooking might be causing a bit of a smoke show with those PM values.
Unfortunately it doesn't work configuring I get a :
Do you want to setup I-9PSL?
Unknown error occurred
Just bought two kits with the code and link. Shipping to europe is a bit on the expensive side.
Wow, great.
For those in The Netherlands who want to order:
- package comes from Thailand.
- Shipping costs: 25 Euro
- Shipment time: About 1,5 week in my case. Traceability with PostNL in NL is not very good, you need to call with PostNL for track & trace info.
- No custom or import fees for me. Be sure to check with customs if this is also true for you before ordering.
I appreciate you providing such detailed information for those in the Netherlands looking to order. It's valuable to know about the shipping costs and possible customs fees.
Do you have a gas stove?
Nope, all electric here.
How was this video created? It looks a bit like an animation. There must be some very special video postprocess, maybe from a AI?
Nope, no AI involved, just good old-fashioned editing magic!
Don’t see the link you mention to the esphome config options.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I've added them immediately!
Better buy the Ultimate sensor (mini) 😊
Cheap and offers much more! Also a Dutch product. Even the packing is environmental friendly!
We'll see. That is the next one on my review list. The AirGradient is also environmental friendly packaged by the way.
@@SmartHomeJunkie good to hear that they also use packing friendly material! Nice review by the way. You always inspire me with new smart home devices. Best smart home channel! I’m looking forward to your ultimate sensor review.
@@micheldriessen7238 Thank you for your compliments!
You should test the CO2 sensor with alcohol. Real CO2 sensors won't react but cheap CO2 sensors will react sky high.
I didn't know that. Nice tip. I don't think I have any alcohol in my house except beer...
@@SmartHomeJunkie Spiritus will do too
Yea, I'm gonna stick with my DIY ESPHome sensor I made that actually tells you some of the gases and particulate in the air instead of just measuring a overall general VOC count. Damn near EVERYTHING releases VOC's so the total count is pretty much pointless for 99% of uses. Good advertisement for your new partner though, just please mark the video as an advertisement next time, thanks!
So pricey. But cool.
Yeah, it's not cheap, but you get top-notch sensors for that.
@@SmartHomeJunkie Good point. If it works, that's important!
What I think? That its ridiculously expensive
I think it's actually quite reasonably priced, especially because it's a very feature rich (lots of high quality & accurate sensors with a long lifespan) device, and other brands are asking way more money for way less functionality for a higher price.This often goes with a paid subscribtion model as well.
Plus you rely on the manufacturer for buying and replacing the sensors because they use proprietary packages for their sensors (often the same ones used in the One & Open Air model). In the AirGradient One & Open Air you can replace them easily and buy the sensor from any supplier you prefer.
I bought my AirGradient One 2 weeks ago. Pre-assembled, tested and calibrated, which raised the price. However I'm willing to pay that amount because it saves me time, I know I have a decent and trustable product and I can use it without being confronted with planned obsolescence or the manufacturer going bankrupt and not being able to use the device anymore.
Also: you can use this device completely local, it's open source (flashable with ESP home), gets regularly firmware updates and you can use & integrate it just the way you want 😀
Ya very expensive. I got a couple of the Ikea zigbee sensors which do temp, humidity, PM25 and VOC. They don’t do CO2 but I think they are still good value at a fraction of the price.
Good value piece of kit with superb back up, ongoing development and a commitment to improving our knowledge of things air quality.
Achim from AirGradient here. We would love to offer the monitor at lower prices but the sensor modules we use like the SenseAir S8 NDIR CO2 sensor are quite expensive but guarantee a pretty good accuracy. You can get much cheaper air quality monitors but very often they are hugely inaccurate or they miss important sensors like the CO2.
Actually, it's not considering the sensors that it uses.