I've got my white dial 104 on the fine link. I bought a couple of other straps (distressed brown leather and canvas) when I first got it but still haven't swapped anything over two years later.
Hi Mr Spring (or can I call you Click?), you're quite correct, that bracelet really does elevate the watch to a superior market segment. The question for manufacturers is whether they cut corners and costs by compromising on the bracelet or whether they take advantage of the positive effect a good bracelet has on a watch. How is your course going? Are you bushing and machining now? Are you still on clocks or have you started on watches now? I'm glad you still have time to post new videos... 👍😀
Barry is ok Robert :) As for the bracelet I find most people prefer the H-Link but I like the fact there is an option, The course is going great I'm going to do an update soon, we starting working on clocks now and using the machines . As for the reviews I may only do 2 a week now as the is so much course work to be getting on with and the reviews take up so much of my free time chap
Ehh I'm torn on this one. The fine link looks amazing but the h link has a wayyy more comfortable feel. I have to say that im super impressed with your sinn collection man
Thanks Sir one day I need to do a video of my Sinn collection but you now its going to be a long video if I do 20+ mins , I am thinking of updating my old UX review
It’s another reason I think for the 104 as a great one watch collection , H link it’s a cool tool watch fine link more classy and leather strap dresses it up some what and after all that you have 200m of WR to boot
Hi Mr Barry, like that cool Fine link bracelet, but missing the micro adjustment not for me rather have my H link from Sinn or the Silicone strap living in hot weather country it’s almost a must have a quick adjustment, I’ve got a question for you, when would you do a full review on the new Sinn clasp that are present on the newer T50 BronzeGold 125 models? Plus the newer grey silicone straps waiting for your review’s Barry, about Bergeon tools what can you recommend the aluminium versions or the ones with kind of rubber or silicone thank you very much for your nice reviews please show us the new Sinn models T50 titanium or the BronzeGold 125 ( very expensive but…) all the best mate ! Keep up with your good watch Vlogs
Hi again Jose, do the new Sinn's have different clasp's ? as for the Bergeon tools do you mean the screwdrivers ? if so I really not a fan of the type with the silicone rubber around them they just feel cheap Sir
@@ClickSpringReview hi , thanks from what I’ve seen in new models T50 Titanium, BronzeGold 125 ( 😳💰) Sinn’s video shows a new grey Silicone/Rubber strap quite cool looking actually and from what I’ve saw it looks new clasp ! Maybe be fooled by the small butterfly clasp but … , as for the Bergeon screwdrivers I thought I’ve seen those in your “desk reviews 🧐” have bought one 1,20 mm Tri-wing red tip at top and it didn’t last nothing was trying to adjust steel bracelet ( lots of loctite ) and it bend 😳 almost din’t made too much force anyway was asking you just your opinion thank you for the input Mr Barry! Got a another question have installed a rubber strap Borealis and today was trying to remove it from one of my watch’s impossible have trying different spring bar tools doesn’t came of can’t believe on that I think or I’m sure it fitted ok plus have already removed it and last summer leave it on the watch can you please have any additional advice how can I remove those spring bars stuck in the lug holes almost want to grab a metal saw 😠 ? Bent my spring bar went to another one nothing it’s stuck I both sides I guess these are Sinn’s spring bars my mistake! As you know Borealis doesn’t send any, and the Sinn ones are bit larger diameter… my fault. Sorry for such huge msg! ☮️
If there is a lot of loctite on it one thing to try is placing the bracelet in some hot water for a few mins to soften it and then try and remove the screw , Did you use the right spring bars? some are made for drilled lugs only and so don't have a shoulder to allow the tool to remove them and rely on a pin pusher pass though the lugs , there is a trick were you can use fine cotton to remove the bar or being its a rubber strap a set of cutters can be used , as for the screwdriver here are my two favouritesruclips.net/video/kblLH_y3PC0/видео.html
Fine link really does look good on the 104. Thought about doing the same for mine but I need micro adjustments. May I ask where you got the steam punk themed watch stand in the background? I'd like to find one for my son who's in the watch rabbit hole now as well. Cheers
Hi here is the review I did, the website can be found in the description , They sent it to me for review and said keep it ,so if you do buy one please tell them where the got to see it from Sir ruclips.net/video/3jf9i38PPU4/видео.html
I thought the fine link would be great but not so sure now. I found one boxed like yours (unworn) for £200 on ebay. I have a large wrist so didn't need to remove any links and it's very comfortable. It just doesn't suit me, so It's currently on a black bund strap not getting much wrist time unlike my 358 on a dark grey zulu with matching hardwear.
2:55 it cuts away but I was hoping that you would show how to remove that "cover" piece. Trying to swap my H-Link out for a textile band right now and can't figure it out.
Hi the best way is to apply some pressure on the bracelet after you release the spring bar. most importantly is not to allow the bar to go on top of the lug because if you do it may scratch it
I think the fine link looks best, primarily because it matches the shape of the lugs. It very nearly makes it look like an integrated bracelet, the lugs transitioning into the outer links, and the butterfly clasp keeping the aesthetic unbroken all the way around the wrist. Definitely less tool-y, but perhaps even more in harmony with the original design.
Isn't it possible to swap the clasp in the fine link bracelet for the clasp in the other bracelet? I am really considering getting the sinn, but the lack of micro adjustment in that bracelet is a big eff for me.
Hi Mark , no it isn't but remember you do have a half links I've never found it a problem myself . I'd say 90% of all butterfly clasps are the same as this , once I set my bracelet thats pretty well it for me I find 👍🏻
I hear what you're saying in the vid, the 104 looks great on that 5-link. But my preference (and of course it is subjective) by far is the go-to H-link. Second place by far would be a quality NATO (with the keeper cut off) in black/grey/blue. Everything else is 3rd.
Thats fair enough Sir, I've mine at the min on a fine link but I do like to swap it around with the H-Link it came with, It also looks good on the Sinn silicone strap
@@ClickSpringReview I bet the 104 *would* look great and wear comfortably on a nice fkm waffle or (and I feel like this would vibe great with the watch) a retro tropic strap. I'd never considered that for some reason, just really *not* feeling the watch (or really any watch) on the thick leather strap Sinn provides, so kinda mentally disregarded all 2-pc. options. I think subconsciously that's what I admire & desire about the 104 I St Sa: it's "strictly business" aesthetic lends itself to versatility. It's a great watch that would look and wear well on anything. In other news: Think I'm ordering mine in anthracite & H-link tomorrow to reward myself for 5 yrs at my current job + 5 yrs clean & sober life. What's all that hard work for if not the occasional indulgence? 🤷🏼
@@hgr.7857 Well Done on both accounts 👍🏻Borealis make a great ISO diver strap which looks great and only cost $40 yes you can get them cheaper but this feels so good , I get my thick leather straps form this guy john.keiller@gmail.com I reviewed some not so long back, he posts worldwide and they only cost £35 + postage if your outside the UK
@@ClickSpringReview 👍 Thanks for saying so. Five years ago, I'd have thought five years might as well be a lifetime! Making grownup choices, I've learned, allows one to spend money on grownup things. It seems like a proper splurge - also, 40th b-day present to self. I am really feeling the anthracite (🤷🏼 but can't beat the clean, classic black! I have similar dials in black already though [62MAS is pretty close, also clean/legible & function-first with a slim black bezel], I'm going grey sunburst for the 104). Those Borealis straps are 🔥 BTW, thanks for the heads-up. 👀
Thats not correct TAU in fact far from it. Top and COSC spec use Incabloc shock setting over the Novadiac of the others .They also use Red Rubbies vs polyrubies ones the finishing is different also, there's a big difference in price to Sir
Sinn used to be great, but they are living in the 2000s. I think the H-link bracelet they use is from 2005 and that clasp is horrible. Also, Sinn needs to start using "ceramic" bezels.
I'm a fan of the H-Link its a solid design the clasp I've never had a problem , I know some would like on the fly micro adjustment but the cost of one of these clasps from many other brands cost around $200/350. I do agree I'd like to see more ceramic bezel inserts like that on the103 classic in the line up 👍🏻
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I've got my white dial 104 on the fine link. I bought a couple of other straps (distressed brown leather and canvas) when I first got it but still haven't swapped anything over two years later.
White dials always look good on brown straps as do cream ones , I have some myself
Hi Mr Spring (or can I call you Click?), you're quite correct, that bracelet really does elevate the watch to a superior market segment. The question for manufacturers is whether they cut corners and costs by compromising on the bracelet or whether they take advantage of the positive effect a good bracelet has on a watch. How is your course going? Are you bushing and machining now? Are you still on clocks or have you started on watches now? I'm glad you still have time to post new videos... 👍😀
Barry is ok Robert :)
As for the bracelet I find most people prefer the H-Link but I like the fact there is an option,
The course is going great I'm going to do an update soon, we starting working on clocks now and using the machines .
As for the reviews I may only do 2 a week now as the is so much course work to be getting on with and the reviews take up so much of my free time chap
@@ClickSpringReview Good luck with it all Barry. As a Sinn enthusiast I look forward to your next video. Cheers, Bob 👋
Ehh I'm torn on this one. The fine link looks amazing but the h link has a wayyy more comfortable feel. I have to say that im super impressed with your sinn collection man
Thanks Sir one day I need to do a video of my Sinn collection but you now its going to be a long video if I do 20+ mins , I am thinking of updating my old UX review
I agree Barry the fine link is an amazing bracelet which I have fitted to my blue dial 104 making it a perfect tool/dress watch
It’s another reason I think for the 104 as a great one watch collection , H link it’s a cool tool watch fine link more classy and leather strap dresses it up some what and after all that you have 200m of WR to boot
Hi Mr Barry, like that cool Fine link bracelet, but missing the micro adjustment not for me rather have my H link from Sinn or the Silicone strap living in hot weather country it’s almost a must have a quick adjustment, I’ve got a question for you, when would you do a full review on the new Sinn clasp that are present on the newer T50 BronzeGold 125 models? Plus the newer grey silicone straps waiting for your review’s Barry, about Bergeon tools what can you recommend the aluminium versions or the ones with kind of rubber or silicone thank you very much for your nice reviews please show us the new Sinn models T50 titanium or the BronzeGold 125 ( very expensive but…) all the best mate ! Keep up with your good watch Vlogs
Hi again Jose, do the new Sinn's have different clasp's ? as for the Bergeon tools do you mean the screwdrivers ? if so I really not a fan of the type with the silicone rubber around them they just feel cheap Sir
@@ClickSpringReview hi , thanks from what I’ve seen in new models T50 Titanium, BronzeGold 125 ( 😳💰) Sinn’s video shows a new grey Silicone/Rubber strap quite cool looking actually and from what I’ve saw it looks new clasp ! Maybe be fooled by the small butterfly clasp but … , as for the Bergeon screwdrivers I thought I’ve seen those in your “desk reviews 🧐” have bought one 1,20 mm Tri-wing red tip at top and it didn’t last nothing was trying to adjust steel bracelet ( lots of loctite ) and it bend 😳 almost din’t made too much force anyway was asking you just your opinion thank you for the input Mr Barry!
Got a another question have installed a rubber strap Borealis and today was trying to remove it from one of my watch’s impossible have trying different spring bar tools doesn’t came of can’t believe on that I think or I’m sure it fitted ok plus have already removed it and last summer leave it on the watch can you please have any additional advice how can I remove those spring bars stuck in the lug holes almost want to grab a metal saw 😠 ? Bent my spring bar went to another one nothing it’s stuck I both sides I guess these are Sinn’s spring bars my mistake! As you know Borealis doesn’t send any, and the Sinn ones are bit larger diameter… my fault.
Sorry for such huge msg! ☮️
If there is a lot of loctite on it one thing to try is placing the bracelet in some hot water for a few mins to soften it and then try and remove the screw ,
Did you use the right spring bars? some are made for drilled lugs only and so don't have a shoulder to allow the tool to remove them and rely on a pin pusher pass though the lugs , there is a trick were you can use fine cotton to remove the bar or being its a rubber strap a set of cutters can be used , as for the screwdriver here are my two favouritesruclips.net/video/kblLH_y3PC0/видео.html
Fine link really does look good on the 104. Thought about doing the same for mine but I need micro adjustments.
May I ask where you got the steam punk themed watch stand in the background? I'd like to find one for my son who's in the watch rabbit hole now as well. Cheers
Hi here is the review I did, the website can be found in the description , They sent it to me for review and said keep it ,so if you do buy one please tell them where the got to see it from Sir ruclips.net/video/3jf9i38PPU4/видео.html
I thought the fine link would be great but not so sure now. I found one boxed like yours (unworn) for £200 on ebay. I have a large wrist so didn't need to remove any links and it's very comfortable. It just doesn't suit me, so It's currently on a black bund strap not getting much wrist time unlike my 358 on a dark grey zulu with matching hardwear.
That’s a shame but sometimes you just have to try these things out ps the 358 is very nice 👍🏻
I have the h-link. It’s nice, but I’m just not a bracelet guy. Unless it has on the fly. Great video as always.
Hi Dillon I normally have a little pin tool in my ruck sack so I can adjust the clasp if needed 👍🏻
2:55 it cuts away but I was hoping that you would show how to remove that "cover" piece. Trying to swap my H-Link out for a textile band right now and can't figure it out.
Hi the best way is to apply some pressure on the bracelet after you release the spring bar. most importantly is not to allow the bar to go on top of the lug because if you do it may scratch it
I have the fine link on my 104 ST SA A. Will probably add a good quality vintage brown leather strap soon though.
I sometimes wear it on a chunky black leather strap
I think the fine link looks best, primarily because it matches the shape of the lugs. It very nearly makes it look like an integrated bracelet, the lugs transitioning into the outer links, and the butterfly clasp keeping the aesthetic unbroken all the way around the wrist. Definitely less tool-y, but perhaps even more in harmony with the original design.
Thats a fair point 👍🏻
Isn't it possible to swap the clasp in the fine link bracelet for the clasp in the other bracelet? I am really considering getting the sinn, but the lack of micro adjustment in that bracelet is a big eff for me.
Hi Mark , no it isn't but remember you do have a half links I've never found it a problem myself . I'd say 90% of all butterfly clasps are the same as this , once I set my bracelet thats pretty well it for me I find 👍🏻
Looks great on both, but, it certainly gives you different options.
You know me I love swapping they around Stephen
I hear what you're saying in the vid, the 104 looks great on that 5-link. But my preference (and of course it is subjective) by far is the go-to H-link. Second place by far would be a quality NATO (with the keeper cut off) in black/grey/blue. Everything else is 3rd.
Thats fair enough Sir, I've mine at the min on a fine link but I do like to swap it around with the H-Link it came with, It also looks good on the Sinn silicone strap
@@ClickSpringReview I bet the 104 *would* look great and wear comfortably on a nice fkm waffle or (and I feel like this would vibe great with the watch) a retro tropic strap. I'd never considered that for some reason, just really *not* feeling the watch (or really any watch) on the thick leather strap Sinn provides, so kinda mentally disregarded all 2-pc. options.
I think subconsciously that's what I admire & desire about the 104 I St Sa: it's "strictly business" aesthetic lends itself to versatility. It's a great watch that would look and wear well on anything.
In other news: Think I'm ordering mine in anthracite & H-link tomorrow to reward myself for 5 yrs at my current job + 5 yrs clean & sober life. What's all that hard work for if not the occasional indulgence? 🤷🏼
@@hgr.7857 Well Done on both accounts 👍🏻Borealis make a great ISO diver strap which looks great and only cost $40 yes you can get them cheaper but this feels so good , I get my thick leather straps form this guy john.keiller@gmail.com I reviewed some not so long back, he posts worldwide and they only cost £35 + postage if your outside the UK
@@ClickSpringReview 👍 Thanks for saying so. Five years ago, I'd have thought five years might as well be a lifetime! Making grownup choices, I've learned, allows one to spend money on grownup things. It seems like a proper splurge - also, 40th b-day present to self. I am really feeling the anthracite (🤷🏼 but can't beat the clean, classic black! I have similar dials in black already though [62MAS is pretty close, also clean/legible & function-first with a slim black bezel], I'm going grey sunburst for the 104). Those Borealis straps are 🔥 BTW, thanks for the heads-up. 👀
@@hgr.7857 Always glad to help 👍🏻 5 years is a big deal and can't of been easy and now as you say you have more money to spend on watches 😁
Great video, thanks for making this
Anytime Rosco glad you enjoyed it
Do you have a sizing video?
I haven't, but I can do you if you want one sir 👍🏻
@@ClickSpringReview Would be very nice (for me). I don't quite get it with the lube thingy and stuff...
I like the H link but for suits one should switch for leather strap imo
Agreed 💯
Thats a fair comment you have there Pyry
"top grade" only means it has been regulated in more positions. It's still exactly the same movement like the basic grade.
Thats not correct TAU in fact far from it.
Top and COSC spec use Incabloc shock setting over the Novadiac of the others .They also use Red Rubbies vs polyrubies ones the finishing is different also, there's a big difference in price to Sir
@@ClickSpringReview oh really? Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was only the way it's regulated.
Sinn used to be great, but they are living in the 2000s. I think the H-link bracelet they use is from 2005 and that clasp is horrible. Also, Sinn needs to start using "ceramic" bezels.
I'm a fan of the H-Link its a solid design the clasp I've never had a problem , I know some would like on the fly micro adjustment but the cost of one of these clasps from many other brands cost around $200/350.
I do agree I'd like to see more ceramic bezel inserts like that on the103 classic in the line up 👍🏻
What makes Kyle a superstar?
He is Sinn's chief watch maker
The fine link sucks because it's not adjustable and does not come with half links for fine adjustment. H-Link for the win!
Hi Alex the fine does come with half links for fine adjustment sir