Some say they believe she is in CT, based on Find a Grave. One cannot trust Find a Grave exclusively because it is a crowd sourced data dump. I find mistakes there all the time. That said, who knows, she may have been moved there to CT. But I see no evidence supporting that so far. Would be great to see the file record index card from the CT cemetery. Then we have something to dig into. But so far, I have nothing that I have seen; either visually, in writing, records, files or otherwise, to say that she is not at Graceland. We showed the authentic Graceland Cemetery file card here on this episode - retrieved from the Graceland record vault. But that red notation had (and has) me thinking. Show me the evidence. I have an open mind, but just the facts pls 👍😃
Find a Grave is definitely not reliable. In searching for my foster son's grave, it showed up as being in Texas, but is actually in Lake Forest CA. I've since been to it, so I know the TX location is wrong.
@@spitfirepam It's possible that the TX location is listing someone else with the same name. There is a lot of people that are not even listed on find a grave, though.
I found her listed in CT, but no grave picture and no birth date just a death date. Could it be possible that her family just put her date n name on the family stone? Maybe I believe she's with her husband n listed at both
Hey, hi how are you? I'm wondering if you have heard of Raymond E Woods, warrensburg, MO. He lived in an earth contact home (back half of the house underground). Shot and killed wife, 4 children died, 2 survived. I believe the year was 2000.
I'm so glad she has been found. Great job, ladies. Thank you, Ron. Everyone here is so committed to finding these FOTFs and giving them a "life" before the grave.
Hi Ron, I'm glad I could help with this, this mystery has been solved. I thank Diane also for helping with this. I actually didn't think I would get much from this but I was glad I did. This video completes the story. Take care.
I’m going to say this… this group is amazing with their investigative ways. How awesome is this and we get to go along for the ride! Thanks for updating us on this Ron and team!!!
Good job FotF community. Look what happens in our group !!! So COOL and I for one am proud to be in this group ..it is truly my FAVORITE PAGE and I know we mostly are GREAT PEOPLE
I prayer you find peace,after what you have been through,Emma. No matter where your bones may lay. Thanks Ron for find her grave and bring us a sad but good story. Take care.
Thank-you Dawn and Diane for your hard work in finding Emma’s grave. It helps to keep her story alive and not forgotten. Ron thank-you for updating us, it’s wonderful to know Emma has been found.
What a great job on finding her grave to Dawn and Diane. Amazing! Beautiful family Monument there too. I guess we will never know with 100% certainty that she is buried there, but it sure seems like she is to me. And if she isn't, then at least we know she was at one time or another. That's pretty lucky all on its own. Thanks for the follow-up, Ron. That's very cool!
Thanks Ron for this video and glad she was found thank God!!! Thank you for two women funding her and letting you know Ron ...see you in your next video and stay safe out there where you are!!! Take care Ron ....love all your stories !!! 💕💕. Rip to the Adams!! ,🙏
The date is directly next to her name and the rest is above I’ve seen this format in records before so it relates to her not her husband. Nice bit of detective work ladies and Ron. Good to know she’s where she belongs
Very cool for Dianne and Dawn to provide you Emma's burial information. Way to go ladies. RIP Emma Adams ✝️. Very cool to see the burial and plot records. I believe she is buried there Ron.
I think it would be worth researching in CT and see what they say. Just because there's a headstone doesn't mean there's a body there. Great job ladies!
Hi Ron , can you do one on Augustus dickens , Charles younger brother, I think he’s in that cemetery.I visited Charles himself today for the first time at Westminster abbey.
Hi Ron Awesome story I'm grateful Emma has been found. May she rest in peace. Many thanks to the ladies who searched diligently to find Emma. Thank you Ron for sharing another Great story 👍
Wow, I was just going to tell you where the grave was myself at Graceland. I’m really glad I watched this before I did. I found it yesterday. Such a great video thank you very much so so sorry that this happened to this woman and her baby.
Great investigation work. This makes sense that she is there where you showed in your video...that's why her name is added to the side of the obelisk-like family stone.
Thanks for a wonderful job ladies! Thank you Ron for the update and brief respite from what's happening in Okmulgee, OK. We could sure use some prayers for safety right now🙂
So enjoy your videos. I'm a little behind watching, I was and am healing from surgery. Miss everyone. I'm going back to play catch up. It's really sad when an individual can't even stay buried and someone has to steal the body. I'm happy you forged ahead and were able to find her grave. ❤
This appears to be her final resting place. I am a bit curious about that Connecticut cemetery, too. Maybe someone who lives up there can explore that link and see why it's being said that she is there rather then where your two helpers found her in this video.
He did a video about a woman that was killed at a bar somewhere off of route 120 in Illinois. I believe she was killed by a mob associate. Not sure if he reads all comments but I pass by there all the time when on my route. It was across from a lake. A dunkin donuts was across from it too. I just can't seem to find that video.
Hi,hopefully this is the video THE 1964 RAPE AND MURDER OF KITTY GENOVESE, as her neighbors looked on. / Faces of the Forgotten ruclips.net/video/BNnMJOMHIQQ/видео.html
I'm a big fan of your videos and enjoy watching every episode i haven't been a subscriber long so I'd like to ask I know your in Illinois alot and I remember a story on a doctor who murdered his two son in or around Little Egypt, IL in the 70s I believe his name is John Dale Cavaness, if you have already done an episode then I will continue to look for it, if not I believe his sons should not be forgotten, thanks
Just a thought, why don't you ask the cemetery people to probe her grave space and see if they hit anything? I mean even if she didn't have a vault you will hit the casket, if she is there.
I know people that have a tombstone but are not buried where the tombstone is located. It could be that she is buried with her parents and her husband had this stone installed later on in her memory.
Have to admit I did briefly judge the husband for not identifying the body when it was recovered. Then I thought about how people deal with grief by throwing themselves into work and changing locations. I agree that that is a beautiful memorial so there could be evidence of mourning for her and the baby. Does anyone know if there is a record or public record as to why he did not although it would be understandable if he just was not able , also was the baby left to rest unharmed when they took her?
Looks like it was Emma that was relocated in Graceland cemetery in 1882 as her husband listed above her on the index card died in 1894 according to the same index card.
I don't think she is there. Findagrave has her in Hartford,CT and her husband here in Graceland in Illinois. That document states after her name "Headstone". I am agreeing with RonT.
you cannot trust find a grave, it is a crowd sourced data dump. I find mistakes there all the time. that said, who knows, she may have been moved there to CT, but I see no evidence whatsoever. a find a grave profile is nothing but heresy. we showed the cemetery file card at Graceland - proof. show me the evidence otherwise, I have an open mind, but just the facts pls 👍😃
cannot make that conclusion just because it is a possible outcome, based on possible wishes of the family. the facts sp far show she is at Graceland. would love to see the record index cart from the CT cemetery, then we can talk. so far, I have nothing that I have seen, visually, in writing, records, files tor otherwise, to say she is not at Graceland.
Some say they believe she is in CT, based on Find a Grave. One cannot trust Find a Grave exclusively because it is a crowd sourced data dump. I find mistakes there all the time. That said, who knows, she may have been moved there to CT. But I see no evidence supporting that so far. Would be great to see the file record index card from the CT cemetery. Then we have something to dig into. But so far, I have nothing that I have seen; either visually, in writing, records, files or otherwise, to say that she is not at Graceland.
We showed the authentic Graceland Cemetery file card here on this episode - retrieved from the Graceland record vault. But that red notation had (and has) me thinking.
Show me the evidence. I have an open mind, but just the facts pls 👍😃
Find a Grave is definitely not reliable. In searching for my foster son's grave, it showed up as being in Texas, but is actually in Lake Forest CA. I've since been to it, so I know the TX location is wrong.
@@spitfirepam It's possible that the TX location is listing someone else with the same name. There is a lot of people that are not even listed on find a grave, though.
I found her listed in CT, but no grave picture and no birth date just a death date. Could it be possible that her family just put her date n name on the family stone? Maybe
I believe she's with her husband n listed at both
Hey, hi how are you? I'm wondering if you have heard of Raymond E Woods, warrensburg, MO. He lived in an earth contact home (back half of the house underground). Shot and killed wife, 4 children died, 2 survived. I believe the year was 2000.
Wow. We have such committed FOTF researchers who go to extraordinary lengths for the deceased. Good job ladies and thanks again Ron❤🌹🌼
I'm so glad she has been found. Great job, ladies. Thank you, Ron. Everyone here is so committed to finding these FOTFs and giving them a "life" before the grave.
Fascinating story
Hi Ron, I'm glad I could help with this, this mystery has been solved. I thank Diane also for helping with this. I actually didn't think I would get much from this but I was glad I did. This video completes the story. Take care.
Yes this was fun, great work Dawn!!!
Way to go Dawn! 😃 👍
I think your right her body is there. Just glad you found her!
I’m going to say this… this group is amazing with their investigative ways. How awesome is this and we get to go along for the ride! Thanks for updating us on this Ron and team!!!
Your choices of music for each of your videos is great, thanks Ron.
R.i.P Emma 🙏🙂 thank you Ron for all you do, glad she's been found. ❤️
What a great development, the FOTF gang came through, thank you Diane and Dawn, good work. Great to see you bring Emma the lovely yellow rose Ron. 💛
Thank you Ron. Thanx to the ladies. Good job.
Good job FotF community. Look what happens in our group !!! So COOL and I for one am proud to be in this group ..it is truly my FAVORITE PAGE and I know we mostly are GREAT PEOPLE
I prayer you find peace,after what you have been through,Emma. No matter where your bones may lay.
Thanks Ron for find her grave and bring us a sad but good story. Take care.
Thank's for sharing mate...
Thank-you Dawn and Diane for your hard work in finding Emma’s grave. It helps to keep her story alive and not forgotten. Ron thank-you for updating us, it’s wonderful to know Emma has been found.
So glad she was found. Rest In Peace Emma.
What a great job on finding her grave to Dawn and Diane. Amazing! Beautiful family Monument there too. I guess we will never know with 100% certainty that she is buried there, but it sure seems like she is to me. And if she isn't, then at least we know she was at one time or another. That's pretty lucky all on its own. Thanks for the follow-up, Ron. That's very cool!
Thank God she was found. Great job ladies ❤
RIP to her. Well done for finding her - she's definitely not forgotten now. X
very very nice search......... thanks to the ladies who did!!!!
Good to see Emma's restingplace at last....... RIP Emma and family
Rest in peace Miss Emma and little one. You are not forgotten.
So glad you found this momma and baby!
Such a beautiful stone may she rest in peace. I just wanted you to know I ordered your book and can't wait to start reading ❤
Oh that’s awesome I hope you enjoy reading it!!
Oh you two wonderful ladies am so pleased she's been found. RIP Emma be at peace 🕊️
Beautiful monument. So awesome how your FOTF Gang from around the world was able to locate her family plot and grave.
Great follow up Ron. Bless Emma 🕯
That is great that people know how to do that kind of research to find her grave. May they all be resting in peace. 🙏 🪦 Thanks Ron. ❤️
Sorry I missed your episode Ron I didn't know was on today i am going to watch now... I glad you found Emma Rest in peace 🕊️
I love this channel and the wonderful community that are oddly passionate about those who have gone before us ❤
Thank you Dawn & Diane♥️awesome headstone♥️ Loved the music at the end.
Thanks Ron❤
Thanks Ron for this video and glad she was found thank God!!! Thank you for two women funding her and letting you know Ron ...see you in your next video and stay safe out there where you are!!! Take care Ron ....love all your stories !!! 💕💕. Rip to the Adams!! ,🙏
May she rest in peace.💐😔 I just wanted to say... Thank you so much for the awesome video. I do appreciate it. ⚘️🌻😔
Glad she's found! Thanks to the ladles who were so nice to belp.
That’s so cool! I’m happy she was found!
The date is directly next to her name and the rest is above I’ve seen this format in records before so it relates to her not her husband. Nice bit of detective work ladies and Ron. Good to know she’s where she belongs
Very cool for Dianne and Dawn to provide you Emma's burial information. Way to go ladies. RIP Emma Adams ✝️. Very cool to see the burial and plot records. I believe she is buried there Ron.
Good job. Well done. Im so glad they found them and you can tell the story.
Wonderful.
File index card from so many years ago - how interesting. Thank-you for the update. Have a great day! 🙂
Thanks sir amazing effort 👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻good they found her 👍🏻GOD bless you always n guide you always all the best 👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻❤️❤️❤️
Amazingly sad story I’m happy someone is telling it. I feel like I learn more history on RUclips than I did in school
Excellent work ladies! Thank you for the diligence. Mystery solved! Beautiful family stone!
I think it would be worth researching in CT and see what they say. Just because there's a headstone doesn't mean there's a body there. Great job ladies!
So glad she was found!!!❤
Great job ladies! Thank you Ron for topping off the story
Thanks for the update!
RIP 😢 😔 🙏 🕊 ☮ Emma
May she rest in peace!
Thanks to those 2 ladys that found her grave. An Ron for telling it.
Glad they found her! Thanks ladies and Ron💕
Hi Ron , can you do one on Augustus dickens , Charles younger brother, I think he’s in that cemetery.I visited Charles himself today for the first time at Westminster abbey.
Your stories are my lunch dessert! Thank you ❤
Hi Ron Awesome story I'm grateful Emma has been found. May she rest in peace. Many thanks to the ladies who searched diligently to find Emma. Thank you Ron for sharing another Great story 👍
Wow, I was just going to tell you where the grave was myself at Graceland. I’m really glad I watched this before I did. I found it yesterday. Such a great video thank you very much so so sorry that this happened to this woman and her baby.
❤ grazie mr. Ron . Concordo pienamente con Voi. Si può discutere ma le prove sono la vera testimonianza !
So glad she was found. Rest in peace Emma 🙏🏽🙏🏽
What a great community you've created here Ron!
Great job on finding Emma and thanks for sharing.
Appreciate you sharing 🪦
Awesome Ron! Beautiful stone! Thank you for all the great stories and videos!
Great job guys!!! Thanks Ron
Great investigation work. This makes sense that she is there where you showed in your video...that's why her name is added to the side of the obelisk-like family stone.
Thanks for a wonderful job ladies! Thank you Ron for the update and brief respite from what's happening in Okmulgee, OK. We could sure use some prayers for safety right now🙂
I love listening to all your videos Ron while I'm working! Head phones in and listen to all these amazing stories ❤
Hope she is resting in peace
Rest in peace!! ❤🎉
So enjoy your videos. I'm a little behind watching, I was and am healing from surgery. Miss everyone. I'm going back to play catch up. It's really sad when an individual can't even stay buried and someone has to steal the body. I'm happy you forged ahead and were able to find her grave. ❤
I am so glad she was found but also sad for her Rip emma
D & D The FOTF DETECTIVE TEAM lol 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️ well done ladies great work and thank you Ron for the update 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌷❤️
This appears to be her final resting place. I am a bit curious about that Connecticut cemetery, too. Maybe someone who lives up there can explore that link and see why it's being said that she is there rather then where your two helpers found her in this video.
I'm so glad she's been found and at rest with her little one and not forgotten.
Glad to see that you found her grave. We will never know for sure, but I am with you that I think she is buried with her husband.
Glad she was found I think she's there at Graceland it's takes time for the stone to be set
RIP Emma!! XXXX 😥💔🌹
Intriguing that there's a notation of moved with a date given.
R.I.P. Adam's family. I pray your with Jesus.
Just as I thought with her husband an family. I say she is with her husband.
Dang what a Good Story
He did a video about a woman that was killed at a bar somewhere off of route 120 in Illinois. I believe she was killed by a mob associate. Not sure if he reads all comments but I pass by there all the time when on my route. It was across from a lake. A dunkin donuts was across from it too. I just can't seem to find that video.
Hi,hopefully this is the video
THE 1964 RAPE AND MURDER OF KITTY GENOVESE, as her neighbors looked on. / Faces of the Forgotten
ruclips.net/video/BNnMJOMHIQQ/видео.html
yes, Ron Scharff. that bar is long gone. a sad story: ruclips.net/video/yNQk684eBQs/видео.html
thanks ron, for showing us
I'm a big fan of your videos and enjoy watching every episode i haven't been a subscriber long so I'd like to ask I know your in Illinois alot and I remember a story on a doctor who murdered his two son in or around Little Egypt, IL in the 70s I believe his name is John Dale Cavaness, if you have already done an episode then I will continue to look for it, if not I believe his sons should not be forgotten, thanks
I really believe she is buried where her stone is cause if they would have moved her body then they would have definitely removed the stone too
good point Bev
Just a thought, why don't you ask the cemetery people to probe her grave space and see if they hit anything? I mean even if she didn't have a vault you will hit the casket, if she is there.
lets see if they read this! 👍😊
Hey buddy keep cool out there
cant this week, we are in the sweatbox now.
I know people that have a tombstone but are not buried where the tombstone is located. It could be that she is buried with her parents and her husband had this stone installed later on in her memory.
I believe this is here.
I really enjoy your videos.
Have to admit I did briefly judge the husband for not identifying the body when it was recovered. Then I thought about how people deal with grief by throwing themselves into work and changing locations. I agree that that is a beautiful memorial so there could be evidence of mourning for her and the baby. Does anyone know if there is a record or public record as to why he did not although it would be understandable if he just was not able , also was the baby left to rest unharmed when they took her?
Ron can do a story about Emma of who was she, and Why they stole her body, she must have been some one special or a icon...thanks..Ron ur the best❤😂🇦🇺
Looks like it was Emma that was relocated in Graceland cemetery in 1882 as her husband listed above her on the index card died in 1894 according to the same index card.
Good job ladies. Funny my name is Rob T. But I'm a different Rob T. lol
Maybe the CT place is an in memory of ??
Very nice!
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Yay!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉😂
Great news
She may be buried in two places, in parts.
I don't think she is there. Findagrave has her in Hartford,CT and her husband here in Graceland in Illinois. That document states after her name "Headstone". I am agreeing with RonT.
you cannot trust find a grave, it is a crowd sourced data dump. I find mistakes there all the time. that said, who knows, she may have been moved there to CT, but I see no evidence whatsoever. a find a grave profile is nothing but heresy.
we showed the cemetery file card at Graceland - proof.
show me the evidence otherwise, I have an open mind, but just the facts pls 👍😃
cannot make that conclusion just because it is a possible outcome, based on possible wishes of the family. the facts sp far show she is at Graceland.
would love to see the record index cart from the CT cemetery, then we can talk. so far, I have nothing that I have seen, visually, in writing, records, files tor otherwise, to say she is not at Graceland.
He must be thinking of someone with same name
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my question is, why was she stolen and put in a barrel and fluid pour in?