It's definitely a looker, and if you're happy with it don't worry about what any commenters say. My only question would be are the pickups microphonic? It seems like many Asian guitars have this problem, and having no center block it seems like this guitar could be a feedback monster.
You're right. Cheaper brands do often suffer from microphonic pickups. Especially when they invest into the visual sparkle of the guitar. Have to save money somewhere right? That hasn't been my experience with this brand but I'm not sure about this one. As for feedback...um yeah...I'm SURE this would get some feedback easily. So glad you're here. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
Yes it definitely has major feedback issues, but if its better or worse than other similar hollows IDK, limited experiences on that side of the guitar spectrum. And yeah I usually don't pay much mind to the noise but this one was getting more than usual on that front so figured I would laugh it off with a video poking fun at the whole thing. I think a lot of folks have "takethemselvestooserious-otosis" 😁
@@TheRevDrthe original person who asked the question is not talking about feedback. A microphonic pickup has isn’t an issue of feedback due to the body being hollow. It is a problem on pickups in solid bodies too. Definition summary from AI: “A microphonic guitar pickup is a pickup that amplifies non-musical sounds, such as bumps or taps on the guitar, or squeals at low volumes. This is caused by loose internal coils that allow electrons to flow uncontrollably. The term "microphonic" comes from the analogy with a microphone, which is designed to convert vibrations into electrical signals.” That said, do these pickups have this issue? A few years ago, I won a free bass directly from Donner - it’s full 36” scale length, but once I got it, I learned that I can’t play it with my disabled hands because it flairs my chronic pain - wish I could trade it for a short scale bass with someone because I’d love to dip my toes in the bass world too. Anyway, it’s a well built bass. The neck is like butter, the frets are level, the body is nice with a flawless sunburst paint job, etc. Its major shortcoming are the pickups. They are a bit muddy, first off. I would be fine dealing with that because they are still perfectly usable for learning even without HD tone, so to speak. However, they are microphonic. I keep my cellphone at hand to refer to for lessons, tabs, etc. The pickups seem to interfere with the wireless radios from my iPhone 14 Pro Max - I have no idea if it’s the cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, and/or satellite radios interfering, but I hear little radio noises coming out of my practice amp when the phone is within a few feet of the Donner pickups! 🤣🤣🤣 It’s hilarious and annoying all at once! It also pickups up music and voices that are nearby and plays them out of my amp. I’ve never had this issue with any other guitars I’ve played - mostly borrowed guitars because I own one acoustic and one electric of my own - I’m permanently disabled/ill, on Medicaid since a 2003 accident that happened when I was 22, so I can’t afford to buy gear with little money and a service dog to care for (I think I told you about me once before). I have had this very same phone near guitars that cost anywhere from $100 to $1000, and the Donner’s pickups are the one ones that seem to have this microphonic issue - and I’ve never heard anyone ever say they had pickups that seemed to pick up noise from a cellular radio. I have to assume this is not just about microphonic pickups, but also must have something to do with the wiring/electronics - and presumably a lack of shielding (I’ve never looked under the hood). Maybe someone here with a better understanding of what might cause this sort of problem can chime in. Anyway, that’s an example of pickups in a solid body Donner bass that has microphonic pickups (and possibly some other connected issue). What you’re describing is when screeching noise is heard because of feedback. That sort of feedback occurs when soundwaves get trapped inside an acoustic cavity in an acoustic or electric guitar and cause the wood and pickups to resonate - this creates an undesirable high-pitched screeching or droning sound. Again, this same thing can occur in an acoustic guitar that is mic’ed, so the noise is not caused by an issue with the pickup when there is no pickup present in an acoustic. In an electric Hollowbody like yours, the noise is being generated because the sound gets trapped and ends up shaking the insides of the guitar to the point forcing the out of the sound hole REALLY HARD/FAST, and then cramming all that energy into the very small microphone diaphragm and then all that noise comes squealing out of the amp/PA. The forced air shakes the guitar’s top, back, sides, as well as the pickups, but even if the guitar is plugged in and the pickups are being used, there isn’t an issue of the pickups being microphonic or anything else being wrong with them - it’s just that the really loud sound energy from the strings are being forced through the pickups and then you get the aforementioned issue of too much sound getting trapped inside the guitar with nothing to help absorb some of it. That energy then gets forced through the guitar cable and comes screeching out of the amp/PA and into our poor ears! Thats why some people prefer a semi-hollow, which has a center lock of wood on which the pickups get mounted instead of the pickups of a hollow body being mounted into the top itself, leading both to resonate uncontrollably. The center block of a semi-hollow body absorbs the extra energy while still allowing the top to resonate freely without shaking the pickups too. This design results in a much smaller chance of getting unwanted feedback issues. I’m sorry this is so long, lol. I’m no expert, but I felt the need to clarify so nobody gets confused by your comment. Feedback noise and microphonic pickups are two different issues - you can get feedback from microphonic pickups, BUT having microphonic pickups doesn’t necessarily mean that there will be any feedback at all because the pickups are acting like little microphones and are picking up all sorts of external noises beyond the sound vibrations from the guitar strings. Hope I explained it well enough, lol. 😂😂😂
Yes the GUITAR SNOBS just don't get it! Like you said it is what it is! And this is one beautiful guitar and sounds great also what more can you ask for? It's your gain and the Guitar Snobs lost! Killer video! ROCK ON BROTHER 👍🎸
Wait, IYV said they don’t give guitars to review? I’ve seen The Bald Shredder and other channels showing off IYV guitars. I know the Bald Shredder sometimes has said he bought from IYV, but has he really purchased every single one? I get their point to let the guitars speak for themselves - but their competitors clearly send sample guitars for review. Leo Jaymz and Firefly send samples to reviewers, and their products are apparently great. Seems like people trust the reviews from RUclips because the guitars from these brands are selling out like crazy. I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to spread word by sending samples and challenging the reviewers to compare their guitars vs the competition. 🤷🏼♀️😊
@@MashaT22 they might have sent some in the past but currently they aren't sponsoring anybody as far as they told me (assuming they were straight with me). From my discussion with them most of their business is making guitars for other companies so their self label is kind of back burner so to speak. I think they only make IYV branded guitars whenever they aren't actively making another order so it is somewhat sporadic when they make a batch. They also do custom orders which I am very interested in once I get my finances above board. I am in their FB fan group now and they post pics there when they fill custom orders, there have been some crazy cool builds. I am tempted after being trolled by the worst man on earth and his snobbish comments about asian built guitars to work with them to build an actual copy of a Byrdland and then put out a challenge to meet someone with a real one and compare them. Might be fun 😊 Always glad to see your comments Marsha 😁
Honestly it looks better than the birdland. I do have to wonder if there really that much difference in craftsmanship. And if upgrades would bring it on par with higher-end models from other brands. Or if it's inflated brand hype and pretending like wine snobs do.
@@TeeFetch I mean... 🤷 With computer manufacturing we live in a golden age of cheap gear. This thing is superbly well crafted. Not perfect but I mean come-on...
It is definitely a beautiful guitar with good tones. Personally I'm going for the quality and affordability EVERY time. If I hit the LOTTO I STILL WOULDN'T buy the high dollar version. Maybe I'd swap the pickups eventually. That's probably it. Glad to have you in on the conversation here. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
@@WillRed314 I mean I have my wishlist like everyone...keyword WISHLIST. namely ...Prestige S series Ibanez, A PRS hollowbody II with peizo (or SE even), A Yamaha Revstar without the devil's wiggle stick (Bigsby) ( and chambered cause the devil stick one is heavy) or certain Yamaha Pacifica models (611 hardtail, and the latest Pacificas...not the typical "grails" others go for. But I don't fool myself thinking something is better because of the brand or country of origin. Not these days. Yesteryear it may of been the case that USA was made better. Or that a certain vintage sounded better because reason X. But I think a lot of that is any form of biasness. I'd like the Ibanez or PRS due to being lightweight and the feel mostly and looks being 2nd (neck injury). I like the way those instruments sound. But sound can be altered a million different ways. Amps, Pedals, Playing style, Pickups. I'm thinking the modern stuff is better in many ways, Especially since certain processes are cheaper now and can be replicated efficiently. Standard Yamaha's I'd love. I'm sure the professional versions are even better. But not sure it's worth the extra price. I'd love to have them sure. But I'm just a beginner and that's what I lean to. A crappy setup can ruin any guitar experience. The Byrdland was iconic for a reason. But that's based on what was available then, marketing, and other factors. While it's still a great guitar, price difference aside it doesn't take away any Jazz box magic from new or cheaper stuff. Collectability or resell "value" only. And if people aren't gonna watch the video to get a sense of context...then I wouldn't waste my time on their comments. Respect is a two way street.
@TeeFetch Love it brother! Those are some good aspirations. My main guitar of any expense right now would be the Jerry Cantrell Epiphone Les Paul 'Wino'. I love the red if you couldn't already tell and I like the pick up combo. I've had several nice guitars over the years, played several more. I've found though that as long as the pickups aren't junk...good tones can be found. I'm a firm believer in making the best music with whatever is available to me and I encourage others to do the same. Great attitude BTW. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
Have you ever considered putting acoustic strings on your hollowbody? I’m curious if it would give it a more “woody” tone. Also would the pickups recognize the strings?
@@ryaneast116 great question! You can string electrics with acoustic strings and it does alter the tone HOWEVER it requires more than just stringing - acoustic strings are thicker and 4wound vs 3wound, so the bridge would need large adjustments or replacement to accommodate the change. The nut would also need to be filed wider. I also struggle sometimes with acoustic strings bc that wound G string doesn't slide as easy and gives me muscle memory farts. This is why I was so excited to get this one, has a lot of acoustic aspects but plays like an electric. The balance on this is perfect suited for me and I think will adapt really well to worship music. Thanks for the great question (maybe a future video topic?)
Ah yes....the internet, the world's font of civil discourse! 🤣 I don't feel the mea culpa was necessary as I didn't take the original video as coming even close to claiming that this would be the equivalent of a guitar costing 5 figures. Just silliness. Keep the faith, and keep delivering honest reviews and opinions.
Thanks brother! Still getting the "thats not a Byrdland" on the original video 🤦 wouldn't it be nice if people watched the videos they comment on 😆 the treatise by "the worst man on earth" was what caused me to make this one, just 😆
@@TheRevDr what? people make effort and take time? That's asking too much of the obvious man. You can't do that in this reality. It's against the rules or something.
Indeed! There was another troll that bombed my channel. I responded to a couple of their comments before realizing they had gone through like six or seven videos and just left disagreeable blah on every one. Thankfully YT makes it super easy to ghost someone and hide them so they can't be seen anymore. Easy peasy. I was going to leave the worst man on earths comments but even after I disengaged with him (ok guy have a nice day...) he keep trying to nag and complain to I went ahead and ghosted him too (not before screen shotting his treatise nag session for this vid tho 😆).
It's definitely a looker, and if you're happy with it don't worry about what any commenters say. My only question would be are the pickups microphonic? It seems like many Asian guitars have this problem, and having no center block it seems like this guitar could be a feedback monster.
You're right. Cheaper brands do often suffer from microphonic pickups. Especially when they invest into the visual sparkle of the guitar. Have to save money somewhere right? That hasn't been my experience with this brand but I'm not sure about this one. As for feedback...um yeah...I'm SURE this would get some feedback easily. So glad you're here. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
Yes it definitely has major feedback issues, but if its better or worse than other similar hollows IDK, limited experiences on that side of the guitar spectrum. And yeah I usually don't pay much mind to the noise but this one was getting more than usual on that front so figured I would laugh it off with a video poking fun at the whole thing. I think a lot of folks have "takethemselvestooserious-otosis" 😁
@@TheRevDr 🤣
@@TheRevDrthe original person who asked the question is not talking about feedback. A microphonic pickup has isn’t an issue of feedback due to the body being hollow. It is a problem on pickups in solid bodies too.
Definition summary from AI: “A microphonic guitar pickup is a pickup that amplifies non-musical sounds, such as bumps or taps on the guitar, or squeals at low volumes. This is caused by loose internal coils that allow electrons to flow uncontrollably.
The term "microphonic" comes from the analogy with a microphone, which is designed to convert vibrations into electrical signals.”
That said, do these pickups have this issue? A few years ago, I won a free bass directly from Donner - it’s full 36” scale length, but once I got it, I learned that I can’t play it with my disabled hands because it flairs my chronic pain - wish I could trade it for a short scale bass with someone because I’d love to dip my toes in the bass world too. Anyway, it’s a well built bass. The neck is like butter, the frets are level, the body is nice with a flawless sunburst paint job, etc. Its major shortcoming are the pickups. They are a bit muddy, first off. I would be fine dealing with that because they are still perfectly usable for learning even without HD tone, so to speak. However, they are microphonic. I keep my cellphone at hand to refer to for lessons, tabs, etc. The pickups seem to interfere with the wireless radios from my iPhone 14 Pro Max - I have no idea if it’s the cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, and/or satellite radios interfering, but I hear little radio noises coming out of my practice amp when the phone is within a few feet of the Donner pickups! 🤣🤣🤣 It’s hilarious and annoying all at once! It also pickups up music and voices that are nearby and plays them out of my amp. I’ve never had this issue with any other guitars I’ve played - mostly borrowed guitars because I own one acoustic and one electric of my own - I’m permanently disabled/ill, on Medicaid since a 2003 accident that happened when I was 22, so I can’t afford to buy gear with little money and a service dog to care for (I think I told you about me once before). I have had this very same phone near guitars that cost anywhere from $100 to $1000, and the Donner’s pickups are the one ones that seem to have this microphonic issue - and I’ve never heard anyone ever say they had pickups that seemed to pick up noise from a cellular radio. I have to assume this is not just about microphonic pickups, but also must have something to do with the wiring/electronics - and presumably a lack of shielding (I’ve never looked under the hood). Maybe someone here with a better understanding of what might cause this sort of problem can chime in.
Anyway, that’s an example of pickups in a solid body Donner bass that has microphonic pickups (and possibly some other connected issue). What you’re describing is when screeching noise is heard because of feedback. That sort of feedback occurs when soundwaves get trapped inside an acoustic cavity in an acoustic or electric guitar and cause the wood and pickups to resonate - this creates an undesirable high-pitched screeching or droning sound. Again, this same thing can occur in an acoustic guitar that is mic’ed, so the noise is not caused by an issue with the pickup when there is no pickup present in an acoustic.
In an electric Hollowbody like yours, the noise is being generated because the sound gets trapped and ends up shaking the insides of the guitar to the point forcing the out of the sound hole REALLY HARD/FAST, and then cramming all that energy into the very small microphone diaphragm and then all that noise comes squealing out of the amp/PA. The forced air shakes the guitar’s top, back, sides, as well as the pickups, but even if the guitar is plugged in and the pickups are being used, there isn’t an issue of the pickups being microphonic or anything else being wrong with them - it’s just that the really loud sound energy from the strings are being forced through the pickups and then you get the aforementioned issue of too much sound getting trapped inside the guitar with nothing to help absorb some of it. That energy then gets forced through the guitar cable and comes screeching out of the amp/PA and into our poor ears!
Thats why some people prefer a semi-hollow, which has a center lock of wood on which the pickups get mounted instead of the pickups of a hollow body being mounted into the top itself, leading both to resonate uncontrollably. The center block of a semi-hollow body absorbs the extra energy while still allowing the top to resonate freely without shaking the pickups too. This design results in a much smaller chance of getting unwanted feedback issues.
I’m sorry this is so long, lol. I’m no expert, but I felt the need to clarify so nobody gets confused by your comment. Feedback noise and microphonic pickups are two different issues - you can get feedback from microphonic pickups, BUT having microphonic pickups doesn’t necessarily mean that there will be any feedback at all because the pickups are acting like little microphones and are picking up all sorts of external noises beyond the sound vibrations from the guitar strings. Hope I explained it well enough, lol. 😂😂😂
Yes the GUITAR SNOBS just don't get it! Like you said it is what it is! And this is one beautiful guitar and sounds great also what more can you ask for? It's your gain and the Guitar Snobs lost! Killer video! ROCK ON BROTHER 👍🎸
@@stevenkelkey3412 exactly! 💯 Appreciate your support brother 🤜🤛 🙏
Wait, IYV said they don’t give guitars to review? I’ve seen The Bald Shredder and other channels showing off IYV guitars. I know the Bald Shredder sometimes has said he bought from IYV, but has he really purchased every single one?
I get their point to let the guitars speak for themselves - but their competitors clearly send sample guitars for review. Leo Jaymz and Firefly send samples to reviewers, and their products are apparently great. Seems like people trust the reviews from RUclips because the guitars from these brands are selling out like crazy. I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to spread word by sending samples and challenging the reviewers to compare their guitars vs the competition. 🤷🏼♀️😊
@@MashaT22 they might have sent some in the past but currently they aren't sponsoring anybody as far as they told me (assuming they were straight with me). From my discussion with them most of their business is making guitars for other companies so their self label is kind of back burner so to speak. I think they only make IYV branded guitars whenever they aren't actively making another order so it is somewhat sporadic when they make a batch. They also do custom orders which I am very interested in once I get my finances above board. I am in their FB fan group now and they post pics there when they fill custom orders, there have been some crazy cool builds. I am tempted after being trolled by the worst man on earth and his snobbish comments about asian built guitars to work with them to build an actual copy of a Byrdland and then put out a challenge to meet someone with a real one and compare them. Might be fun 😊 Always glad to see your comments Marsha 😁
Honestly it looks better than the birdland. I do have to wonder if there really that much difference in craftsmanship. And if upgrades would bring it on par with higher-end models from other brands. Or if it's inflated brand hype and pretending like wine snobs do.
@@TeeFetch I mean... 🤷 With computer manufacturing we live in a golden age of cheap gear. This thing is superbly well crafted. Not perfect but I mean come-on...
It is definitely a beautiful guitar with good tones. Personally I'm going for the quality and affordability EVERY time. If I hit the LOTTO I STILL WOULDN'T buy the high dollar version. Maybe I'd swap the pickups eventually. That's probably it. Glad to have you in on the conversation here. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
@@WillRed314 I mean I have my wishlist like everyone...keyword WISHLIST. namely ...Prestige S series Ibanez, A PRS hollowbody II with peizo (or SE even), A Yamaha Revstar without the devil's wiggle stick (Bigsby) ( and chambered cause the devil stick one is heavy) or certain Yamaha Pacifica models (611 hardtail, and the latest Pacificas...not the typical "grails" others go for.
But I don't fool myself thinking something is better because of the brand or country of origin. Not these days. Yesteryear it may of been the case that USA was made better. Or that a certain vintage sounded better because reason X. But I think a lot of that is any form of biasness. I'd like the Ibanez or PRS due to being lightweight and the feel mostly and looks being 2nd (neck injury). I like the way those instruments sound. But sound can be altered a million different ways. Amps, Pedals, Playing style, Pickups. I'm thinking the modern stuff is better in many ways, Especially since certain processes are cheaper now and can be replicated efficiently. Standard Yamaha's I'd love. I'm sure the professional versions are even better. But not sure it's worth the extra price. I'd love to have them sure. But I'm just a beginner and that's what I lean to. A crappy setup can ruin any guitar experience.
The Byrdland was iconic for a reason. But that's based on what was available then, marketing, and other factors. While it's still a great guitar, price difference aside it doesn't take away any Jazz box magic from new or cheaper stuff. Collectability or resell "value" only. And if people aren't gonna watch the video to get a sense of context...then I wouldn't waste my time on their comments. Respect is a two way street.
@TeeFetch Love it brother! Those are some good aspirations. My main guitar of any expense right now would be the Jerry Cantrell Epiphone Les Paul 'Wino'. I love the red if you couldn't already tell and I like the pick up combo. I've had several nice guitars over the years, played several more. I've found though that as long as the pickups aren't junk...good tones can be found. I'm a firm believer in making the best music with whatever is available to me and I encourage others to do the same. Great attitude BTW.
🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
Have you ever considered putting acoustic strings on your hollowbody? I’m curious if it would give it a more “woody” tone. Also would the pickups recognize the strings?
@@ryaneast116 great question! You can string electrics with acoustic strings and it does alter the tone HOWEVER it requires more than just stringing - acoustic strings are thicker and 4wound vs 3wound, so the bridge would need large adjustments or replacement to accommodate the change. The nut would also need to be filed wider. I also struggle sometimes with acoustic strings bc that wound G string doesn't slide as easy and gives me muscle memory farts. This is why I was so excited to get this one, has a lot of acoustic aspects but plays like an electric. The balance on this is perfect suited for me and I think will adapt really well to worship music. Thanks for the great question (maybe a future video topic?)
Ah yes....the internet, the world's font of civil discourse! 🤣 I don't feel the mea culpa was necessary as I didn't take the original video as coming even close to claiming that this would be the equivalent of a guitar costing 5 figures. Just silliness. Keep the faith, and keep delivering honest reviews and opinions.
Thanks brother! Still getting the "thats not a Byrdland" on the original video 🤦 wouldn't it be nice if people watched the videos they comment on 😆 the treatise by "the worst man on earth" was what caused me to make this one, just 😆
@@TheRevDr what? people make effort and take time? That's asking too much of the obvious man. You can't do that in this reality. It's against the rules or something.
@TeeFetch 🤜🤛
Thanks for the positivity! That's PRECISELY what we're looking for around here. Glad you're here with us. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
@@TeeFetch😂
The more you react to a troll the more you will get trolled!
@MeekSith777 Truer words never spoken. Glad you're here with us. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
Indeed! There was another troll that bombed my channel. I responded to a couple of their comments before realizing they had gone through like six or seven videos and just left disagreeable blah on every one. Thankfully YT makes it super easy to ghost someone and hide them so they can't be seen anymore. Easy peasy. I was going to leave the worst man on earths comments but even after I disengaged with him (ok guy have a nice day...) he keep trying to nag and complain to I went ahead and ghosted him too (not before screen shotting his treatise nag session for this vid tho 😆).
@@TheRevDr 😇
Well there's no place for hate in our community. 🤘🎶🙏🎶🤘
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