How the WEIRDEST Republic Droid Led to Clone Cyborgs, and Dark Troopers

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  • Опубликовано: 12 фев 2023
  • The Republic and Imperial War droids all stem back to one odd creation, L8-L9. See how it evolved into the Z-X3 experimental droid trooper, then Dark Trooper project with Phase 0 being Clone Cyborgs, and eventually full Droids seen under Moff Gideon.
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  • @dagdamor1
    @dagdamor1 Год назад +173

    I will never understand how that war droid at Asajj’s introduction somehow got dropped by investors when it obliterated half of the arena participants in seconds and it took a literal Dark Jedi some genuine effort and dodging to put it down.
    You’d have planetary governments lining up around the block for a brigade of these things.

    • @mankyscotchgit4986
      @mankyscotchgit4986 Год назад +49

      The Seppies would have gone absolutely apeshit for this droid.

    • @LoneWolf20213
      @LoneWolf20213 Год назад +46

      I think this is one of those plot holes that happened only because of plot

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  Год назад +42

      Yeah keeping the in universe lore logic sounding reasonable is hard sometimes and this is one for sure, and why so much stronger than anything out there. And the design looks like it was supposed to be a cyborg originally

    • @farawaygaming_
      @farawaygaming_ Год назад +6

      The likely true reason is its too expensive to manufacture

    • @LoneWolf20213
      @LoneWolf20213 Год назад +14

      @@farawaygaming_ a single clone takes 10 years to make and cost more than a droid squad in only a single day, how would these droids cost more

  • @Manateeus
    @Manateeus Год назад +90

    I think that Phase 0 Dark Trooper that is the cyborg clone could be what we saw in the first episode of the two-episode mid-season finale. The clone that had his CT number wiped and said he was a "believer"

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 Год назад +5

      Yeah, but he's not quite a Dark Trooper in terms of abilities.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Год назад +5

      @@demi-femme4821 So, He might've been a prototype.

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 Год назад +11

      Might have been a Clone batch kept just for black ops but I was wondering if the gas he was breathing was a new type of mind control to replace the chip. Essentially some of the 'decomissioned' clones were being reprogrammed and used for Imperial Intelligence as disposable assets.

    • @theBoenich
      @theBoenich Год назад +1

      I really hope that in future bad batch seasons we will see the start of the dark trooper program

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Год назад +47

    I loved the Dark Troopers from old Battlefront games. I really hope we can see the Cyber Clone Dark Troopers in the future, and hopefully with their Arc Castors from the 2005 Battlefront game.

    • @randomstormtrooper3345
      @randomstormtrooper3345 Год назад +4

      if that happens they should give them their shotguns from BFI, shock guns are way too silly lol

    • @inductivegrunt94
      @inductivegrunt94 Год назад +6

      @Random Stormtrooper Fair enough. The Blast Cannons, as they were called in game, would be a great addition. Nothing like combining both blasters and shotguns together to create a devastating weapon of destruction.

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 Год назад +6

    Man, I loved the L8-L9 droid in the original Clone Wars cartoon. Was so sad when it got smashed by Ventress.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 Год назад +54

    We need to see more dark troopers in star wars

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 Год назад +7

    Excellent work as always. I wonder how things might have gone differently had Tagge had any idea what Ventress was

  • @Normac902
    @Normac902 Год назад +9

    I love how you collectively cover all aspects of the topic you are reviewing, legends & “canon”.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад +1

      Because its all lore.
      Now, go away Fandom Menace.

    • @Normac902
      @Normac902 Год назад +2

      @@fireblade295what are you talking about? Weirdo.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 Год назад +8

    Droid on Droid would be amazing to see in a show; maybe a separatist holdout or repurposed facility sacrificed to a canonized Rom Mok and a small task force of Dark Trooper droids. I don't think it'll happen with the new canon but Dark Trooper cyborg Cody could also be great to see.

  • @kristophervanvarenberg526
    @kristophervanvarenberg526 Год назад +2

    - A well directed mini series showcasing a select group of I.G. Droids history, riot, expansion, etc. would be fascinating to watch. Someone like Toa Frasier would be an excellent candidate for this.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Год назад +5

    Wish for more SWTOR videos soon

  • @Booozy3050
    @Booozy3050 Год назад +2

    I remember as a kid having a book and record combo about that Droid uprising. It was voiced well.

    • @DeathBYDesign666
      @DeathBYDesign666 Год назад

      What was that? That sounds so damn familiar to me, I remember those star wars stories from the 80s. And that makes me feel both old and shocked at how long I've been a star wars fanboy. Long enough that my literal earliest memories are of seeing it in the theater as a small child. It's pretty much engrained in me you could say.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz Год назад +1

    I really love the detail you put into them. Please do more is I’ll look forward to it

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z Год назад +1

    6:16 "Reinforced Phrik body shell"
    Frik's really been working out since the movie.

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Год назад +1

    Android revolution post sequels would be a wild storyline. A signal that sends all the droids of the galaxy big and small into a haywire aggressive stance towards organics long enough for a fleet carrying newly constructed war droids to seize territory.

    • @rosiehawtrey
      @rosiehawtrey Год назад

      There already was one in the books, one of Luke Sistershaggers students gone bad, and they were installing a remote detonator in droids and droids brain installs in ships, as they were built/reconned. Took out several ships crews if I remember. Almost took out Luke too, flying a modded T65D series. Can't remember the name of the book, its been too long.
      R2 ex machina..

  • @Chisszaru
    @Chisszaru Год назад +3

    That droid looks like it would fit the Rebel Alliance. Or at least the Resistance.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 Год назад

    I remember growing up I had a book about droids in Star Wars that I spent *hours* pouring over, and it always brings a smile to my face when I see one of the more obscure or goofy droids in it reappear

  • @admiralleel6604
    @admiralleel6604 Год назад

    You could've used your „What‘s up, MetaNerdz!“ right before the Dark Trooper punched Din Djarin.
    That would have been so awesome 😂

  • @yokai333
    @yokai333 Год назад

    Cool video

  • @bongobong6789
    @bongobong6789 Год назад +2

    Anyone else hear "28 ABY" at 1:10 ? Or just me?

  • @dingamuss1993
    @dingamuss1993 Год назад

    Would love to see a video about the various types of powered armor or on the PB-950 Patrol Boat would be cool. Just a suggestion.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 Год назад +15

    Could a Clone Dark Trooper live longer than 40-45 years because of his cybernetic implants?

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 Год назад +5

      I would imagine so, but they might undergo a slower, different kind of death as their failing organic parts are slowly switched out for more droid components.

    • @lpalmer212
      @lpalmer212 Год назад +1

      probably, but I doubt the cost would be justified

  • @DrMutran
    @DrMutran Год назад

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw New Republic, Dark Trooper, and CIS droids clashing with each other.

  • @dsheppard297
    @dsheppard297 Год назад

    You need to do a breakdown of the Nelvaanian species that were seen in the animated Clone Wars from the early 2000s.

  • @Earthstar_Review
    @Earthstar_Review Год назад +1

    The way droids behave in Star Wars, I have zero issues with droid protagonists vs droid antagonists. Also, I have great regrets that we never saw a return of the unsettling and inhuman droid voices from The Phantom Menace.

  • @Johnokerblom
    @Johnokerblom 3 месяца назад

    The droid versus droid would be entertained

  • @davidhaas3111
    @davidhaas3111 Год назад +2

    I feel like if this is going to happen in canon, it will be done using any research kamino might have done on echo, and if they haven’t done any, then the empire capturing and studying echo will be a big plot point, as will the bad batch utterly obliterating whichever research facility holds echo.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz Год назад

    Are you going to do more complete life stories?

  • @traitorouskin7492
    @traitorouskin7492 Год назад +1

    if it ended up droid vs droid they'd probably have the sense to team up and kill all the meatbags. forever living in the metallic paradise they dream of.

  • @kingdomskobolds8267
    @kingdomskobolds8267 Год назад +2

    The L8-L9 was far from being a failure given how easily it eradicated the arenas fighters, with the one exception being Asajj who was not just a force wielder but a highly trained assassin that gave even the Jedi many problems. Sure, in a 1 on 1 duel the bot lost to her, but would she have survived against a whole squad? And with the feedback of the droid being vulnerable to being lifted by force users the droid could be further improved with feet capable of latching onto surfaces, not a hard solution to implement really. This bot would have been a battlefield powerhouse

  • @mr.creeper7802
    @mr.creeper7802 Год назад

    I’d love to see the WA-7 Droid, Mouse Droid, and Hutt species videos reuploaded in a slightly different presentation but with all the information.

  • @andreaandolina7199
    @andreaandolina7199 Год назад

    Empire at war's DT 2 were my all time favourite unit in the vanilla game. But lorewise phase 0 will always have a special place In my heart given that in the far away galaxy these were the closest things to a 40k dreadnought.

  • @arlenety6124
    @arlenety6124 Год назад

    Metanerdz can you try update the Porax 38 starfighter Pls.

  • @isaiahjackson25
    @isaiahjackson25 Год назад

    Definitely feel like the clone assassin is a step toward the dark trooper program

  • @vilarseirei
    @vilarseirei Год назад +1

    I just hope star wars makes a live action series about the threat from another galaxy

    • @vilarseirei
      @vilarseirei Год назад +1

      So we get to see that terminator wannabe droid

  • @nomcarver4436
    @nomcarver4436 Год назад

    This is some cyberpunk stuff right here😂! 6:06

  • @reidhanson4755
    @reidhanson4755 Год назад

    Would love to see a parody episode where the droids throughout the galaxy go on a 'kill all humans' rampage like Futurama.
    Even the harmless droids would be like slowly ramming into organics.

  • @Samland_yt
    @Samland_yt Год назад

    How and where do you get all your star wars lore and information

  • @nicholasgentzsch3182
    @nicholasgentzsch3182 Год назад +4

    Hey dear Metanerds! I’m a massive and long time fan, I’ve got a quick question. Why did you stop putting legends and canon in the top to separate the source materials origins? Would be happy for it to return!
    Appreciate your work more than I could ever write in a comment, thanks for (maybe) reading it! Keep going, you make my days!

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад

      Because its all lore.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm Год назад

      @@fireblade295 you're being a hypocrite. Just earlier you've been saying Legends is bad, but now "it's all lore" if it includes canon...

  • @techticianlarsproductions6180
    @techticianlarsproductions6180 Год назад +1

    Oh yeah I never see anyone mention these

  • @lucienfury2606
    @lucienfury2606 Год назад

    We really need durka durka troopers

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz Год назад

    Are you going to finish saw gerreras life?

  • @saiyanape6015
    @saiyanape6015 Год назад +2

    Crab droids

  • @greentwo6845
    @greentwo6845 Год назад

    Not to mention, the cost.

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 Год назад +1

    Who do you bet on when it's Sith vs. Sith?

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Год назад

    Yep

  • @Xray1281
    @Xray1281 Год назад +2

    Kind of mixed canons there but still good.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад

      Because its lore, you fandom menace.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm Год назад

      @@fireblade295 stop being a dick in the comments

  • @andreykuzmin4355
    @andreykuzmin4355 Год назад

    Remember droids, that Bad Batch fought on Tarkin's orders? I got the heebee-jeebies, when I saw them. I am pretty sure those were Canon equivalent of the Phaze Zero Dark Troopers. Meaning, that Bad Batch fought cripled, cyborg clones

    • @anthonyrodriguez8788
      @anthonyrodriguez8788 Год назад +1

      I doubt, the Kamanoians would never waste such valuable prototype droids just to satiate Tarkin's curiosity, not to mention Shaak Ti was watching the Kamanoians to make sure the Clones were being treated well, they simply wouldn't have the time make droids like that.
      Odds are they were just an earlier model of those imperial security droids we see in Rebels that kinda look like Dark Troopers

  • @ATP2555ify
    @ATP2555ify Год назад

    If it replaced the clones, the Clone Wars would've been called the Droid Wars.

  • @rebelbrixz
    @rebelbrixz Год назад

    Maybe a Dooku complete life

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Год назад +2

    The legends version of the phases 1-3 dark troopers went from being droids to suits, in canon it's the other way around.

  • @wickerbotterthewizard707
    @wickerbotterthewizard707 Год назад

    While I understand the opportunity of getting contracted to build a droid army is lucrative, I feel like trying to get a Republic or Imperial commission would be to ignore those faction's greatest strengths. Firstly the Republic and Empire had such a large populace that conscripts and volunteer armies would be in such great supply a droid replacement would be naive. Why manufacture one droid equal or better than an average infantry man when those resources could be devoted to a dozen rifles for a dozen organic soldiers? Even if by some Separatist miracle they kill EVERY Jango Fett clone there are still Trillions of Republic citizens to draft if needed. This is exactly why a droid on droid war would be so small scale if it would happen at all, because any super power in the Galaxy worth it's merit can recruit the millions of soldiers it would need. Only in massive extinctions where those populations cease to exist would a droid army be favored because it would become a necessity.

  • @vonneely1977
    @vonneely1977 Год назад +2

    Canonical Phase 3 Dark Trooper used phrik armor, which made them resistant to lightsabers. Disney conveniently forgot that last detail.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад

      'forgot' or did they just not an OP droid for Luke's entrance?
      Fandom Menace always lack intelligence.

    • @vonneely1977
      @vonneely1977 Год назад

      @@fireblade295 Oh look, a Disney shill.

  • @SES77
    @SES77 Год назад

    Hey Metanerdz, thank you for the star wars content as always, but I wanted to let you know that fellow youtuber Tony "Thick44" Schnur of Neebs Gaming and battlefield friends has lost his battle with cancer. If you have time could please spread awareness. The Neebs gaming crew is setting up a trust fund for his daughters and I was hoping to spread the message.

  • @shadow9774
    @shadow9774 Год назад +2

    These L8-L9 droids just break the lore. 10 of them would be able to annihilate most ground forces and be able to handily kill padawan level jedi in a 1v1. You could easily argue they could 1v1 knight level jedi, as Ventress can certainly beat most of the jedi knights. They'd be terrifying to fight in both ships and urban areas with the flamer. Their only downside is they got no hands, so they can't operate machinery despite their apparent intellect. Not much of a downside though as they can plow through droidekas. And I'm gonna assume tanks too like the aat, the snail tank, octo tri-droid, the big crab droids, and the homing spider.

    • @user-yq9im9dk9z
      @user-yq9im9dk9z Год назад +2

      That's mostly why OP things in Star Wars get lost when you blow up their factory, as if no one makes backups 😉

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад

      @@user-yq9im9dk9z its why OP things make enjoyment hard if you don't care or diskile the characters.
      Its why Legends is bad, DC is bad, and Marvel comics is bad. No stakes, no struggles.

  • @coconutcore
    @coconutcore Год назад

    2:44 …No…no they couldn’t fit in. They could fit into a 1970s Doctor Who episode, not Star Wars from whatever decade.

  • @Crackmiser
    @Crackmiser Год назад +4

    One legends phase 3 dark trooper could take on 15-20 canon phase 3 dark troopers with no issue. The ones from mando season 3 were cool, but I was genuinely disappointed to find out they were supposed to be phase 3, thought they were going to be phase 1 since they were droids.

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 Год назад

      Do you mean your canon from the Battlefront games, or my canon where it was a power armour for Rom Mok?

    • @user-yq9im9dk9z
      @user-yq9im9dk9z Год назад

      Lol, canon is definition of nerfed universe. OP Grievous, OP Luke and OP Dark Troopers, nah, let's nerf all of them! Only Rey can be OP with no reason!

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 Год назад

      Fandom Menace at it again.
      It was Mando s2 first of all.
      Lets look at Marvel. In comics, every character is OP. But in MCU they are weakened for viewing pleasure. Nobody wants an OP hero who wins every fight. Each hero struggled.
      Same for SW. They weakened Luke, because its his first intro outside ST. Grievous? He was in the movies, then your precious 'Legends'. Phase 3 wasn't lightsaber resistant, because it would be a poor intro for Luke.
      Your ilk is sad. Your Legends is pathetic and boring.

    • @Crackmiser
      @Crackmiser Год назад +1

      @@fireblade295 You like the Disney trilogy don't you?

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm Год назад

      @@fireblade295 Grievous' first appearance was in 2003 Clone Wars, not in movies.

  • @smileyp4535
    @smileyp4535 Год назад +1

    Let's be honest it's because that blue robot looks stupid af 😂

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 Год назад

    Yikes

  • @amarured
    @amarured Год назад

    Shouldn't it also be BBY at 1:09? 🥸