I hope you see this I received my bearings for the handle knobs. I installed them in 2023 Daiwa legalis 3000,2023 daiwa lexa 3000, Shimano Ultegra 2021 3000, 2021 Shimano Nasci 4000 (it had 1 sealed bearing and a bushing in the knob). All the reels were turned into fidget spinners! The knobs are incredible. They spin so fast and smooth. No play at all on the two Shimano. They both had play in the knobs and I use the shims you provided and it fix that immediately. I also replaced the line roller bushings on my 2023 Daiwa Legalis 2000 spins beautifully! Thank you very much. Keep up the good work.
I had to replace the line roller bearings back to the bushing as the bearings were making a grinding noise. Not sure what is going on but the open face bearings don't look like they would prevent dirt or weeds from going in them. The ceramic knob ones are great though and knob spins freely.
if you hear grinding noise, something is not right. U can reach out to me in email if u want refund or replacement. There are no closed bearings of that size because they are too narrow. However i have fished them long enough to know that this is not an issue for freshwater fishing. I can promise you, if u get dirt or weeds inside the line roller, and into the plastic bushings. operation will be affected just the same and u would have to open and clean it. But perhaps u don't have to buy new bearings.
Hi, do you think exceler 2023 would be better or the same as Legalis 2023? Because i dont like that gold on new legalis, i wanna buy 2000 size and from specs seems to be almost the same reel but different design.
On my 2023 Exceler the parts diagram shows the part number called "Collar(F)" goes on the outside but you placed it on the inside at minute 8:59 to 9:40. So which way is correct, inside or outside?? I think I took mine from the outside when I disassembled it, but then found it difficult to put it back because it didn't feel right. Thanks for the bearings.
great tutorial, well done. I have one question. what is the purpose of this black "bridge" above the line roller? it is connected to bail. does it have any function?
it seems like i can't do both bearing like how you're doing yours. Somehow, the bearing i purchased from om you for the 23 legalis line roller is slightly thicker just by a hair. so i ended up doing 1 bearing at the back and 1 bushing on the front. i have the 2000sp and xh btw
the letters dont matter, u should still fit both bearings. Yes, they are a hair thicker than the bushing, but there is extra space there and it works perfect. Do just like the video and both will fit!
These bearings fit my 2023 Legalis 2500 but the spacer is different so you can only use one bearing on the back side which is fine ...still makes it a lot better and the back side bearing is plenty to support it with the bushing in front ..also keeps the water out
sorry to hear that. I guess you have a spare now : ) I can't afford to buy all sizes to test them. But i will update the product information with your feedback now!
I don't have that reel but I am 99% certain. If they don't fit i will give u a refund. Sizes 1000 to 4000 alsways have the same line roller, but... i have not confirmed it personally in this model.
do me a favor, remove one of your shims. When u wobble the line roller with your nail, there should be just a little bit free play, but not much. I think if u use both that creates too much space and unnecessary wobble which may be the reason for your noise
@ifishcatfish I will try this and let you know how it works, I also will try to get the housing to sit perfectly! I also wanted to let you know those minibea abecs I tried have drastically improved the feel of my reels, best part is they are quiet! One of my reels had a burr on the bushing, so the reel feels smoother now also!
@@12345B I just finished recording the video. I have no washers in my reel and it runs perfect. Literally just replace the metal bushing with bearing. If you want some extra free play u can use one washer, but no more than that. I will try to edit and publish tomorrow. Sahara is even easier than Legalis, but to be 100% honest, i did it quite a few times myself the first time until i figure the right way to put these parts there : )
@ifishcatfish thanks so much for the update, I will try this again, I originally installed with zero shims but had scraping, I think you where right that I did not get the housing to sit correctly, I will be happy to await your video! Thanks so much for great 1 on 1, I sung your praises to all my UL friends, u are a star
From my short experience with handle knob of penn authority 4500 and shimano stella 6000hgc the knob of shimano knob will run almost 4 times longer than that of authority , and i guess this is due to the ball bearings seal is more tighter with authority which more wellcome for good water protection.
Hello! I have a lexa 23 3000 and a fuego 23 5000, and i wish to upgrade the line roller with these bearings. However it seems that its out of stock in your website. May I know if you are planning to restock these bearings soon?
in 3 weeks or so. The bearings were shipped by sea. I don't know if these large reels use the same bearings. I have Sahara 4000 use the same bearings as Sahara 2000, so its possible, but i don't know for sure..
Little Update from Germany. I ordered 2 Legalis 23 Lt 1000D, because of the smoothness,you talked about and because of the screw in handle. The german model has no screw in handle. I'm totally disappointed and send both reels back😭
just for screw in handle??? A bit extreme... did it even have free play? And let me ask you, was it golden handle on the first place? Or did u order the old model?
Every reel in the world has free play in the handle, including Vanquish, Exist and Stella. That is the only way to have low resistance. Also, don't forget the legalis is a $60 reel, you don't want to have unreasonable expectations. And, no, radial play cannot be 'fixed'. Axial play can be adjusted but not radial. If the bearings have no free play the balls will run very tight
@@Thebankfisher No. Shimming the gears can ONLY reduce axial play. But he is talking about radial play, and there is no fix for that, other than getting bearings with tighter tolerances. Bearings will tighter tolerances will have more resistance. There is no fix for radial play
If there’s an existing bearing you don’t need to replace it. And if you want no resistance when the bearing is spinning just clean it and it’ll spin smooth, fast, and freely. The resistance in the bearing is from it being dirty or there’s some sort of lubricant in it.
Also, this location sees a lot of water. All bearings with time will corode and develop deposits and thats not sometjing u can clean.. Can u clean the bearings in the wheelhub of your car? This bearing sees a lot of miles and a lot of spinning
@@ifishcatfish yes, a bearing on a wheel hub can be cleaned and be rebuild if you have the proper tools to disassemble it because it’s not a sealed bearing just like the bearings on most fishing reels, none sealed bearings. I agree that the bearing can rust but how many people dip their reels under water, I’m sure you don’t. And yes it can rust if you surf fish but for fresh water it’ll most likely not rust but just get dirty. The miles you put on your reel does not determine rust it’s how you take care of your reels. I’m not trying to throw you under the bus but that’s just what I know as a regular spinning reel maintenance. But don’t take my comment negative because I love your videos and learned a lot from it, thanks. I also just purchased from your online store. 😊
@@ifishcatfish I agree with you but I’m just proposing that if there’s a bearing there it doesn’t need to be replace. And if it’s dirty it doesn’t need to be replace. I want to ask you, how much can you tell from a plastic bushing/bearing to a ceramic bearing on performance being blind folded, maybe you don’t even have to be blind folded? I’ll tell you my opinion, little to nothing. I upgraded most of my shimano FL reel bearings and it’s slightly smoother but performance is the same, my personal opinion.
@@EK99_00 the bearing in this video is inside the line roller. The line roller is ALWAYS WET, because the line you reel brings water from the lake. The wheelhub bearings cannot be cleaned and restored because there is metal wear after 80 000 miles that can no longer be restored with cleaning.. I appreciate the business and im not trying to be argumentative, but i do want to clarify your comments because many people read them
@@12345B I’ve got 3 dozens of Aliexpress Abec 9(4x7x2.5)for all of the handles and worm gears. Yes, I’ve used them all up. Will see how they will hold up. Call me crazy. LOL
@@ifishcatfishcan you do instructional video on that also ,,,,many of never knew the difference between a bearing and and bushing until we came to be an Ifish disciples.
I hope you see this I received my bearings for the handle knobs. I installed them in 2023 Daiwa legalis 3000,2023 daiwa lexa 3000, Shimano Ultegra 2021 3000, 2021 Shimano Nasci 4000 (it had 1 sealed bearing and a bushing in the knob). All the reels were turned into fidget spinners! The knobs are incredible. They spin so fast and smooth. No play at all on the two Shimano. They both had play in the knobs and I use the shims you provided and it fix that immediately. I also replaced the line roller bushings on my 2023 Daiwa Legalis 2000 spins beautifully! Thank you very much. Keep up the good work.
Thank you sir, for taking the time to write this! Properly appreciated, i assure you!
İ had legalis 23 2000 s-p but i did not like line roller bail. Braid stuck many tine on bail ending... So i still adore my ultegra and freams
Thank you for the video. Just placed my order from California.
Someone ordered like a truck load of bearings. That u?? How many reels donu have ?? :)
@@ifishcatfish I just got the new legalis. I also have about 3 older ones. A Fuego and a couple of Nasci I wanted to upgrade.
outstanding video!!! saved my ass.thankyou
I had to replace the line roller bearings back to the bushing as the bearings were making a grinding noise. Not sure what is going on but the open face bearings don't look like they would prevent dirt or weeds from going in them. The ceramic knob ones are great though and knob spins freely.
if you hear grinding noise, something is not right. U can reach out to me in email if u want refund or replacement. There are no closed bearings of that size because they are too narrow. However i have fished them long enough to know that this is not an issue for freshwater fishing. I can promise you, if u get dirt or weeds inside the line roller, and into the plastic bushings. operation will be affected just the same and u would have to open and clean it. But perhaps u don't have to buy new bearings.
Hi, do you think exceler 2023 would be better or the same as Legalis 2023? Because i dont like that gold on new legalis, i wanna buy 2000 size and from specs seems to be almost the same reel but different design.
i haven't seen or opened that reel yet.. i really don't know...
@@ifishcatfish i understood, thx anyway 😁
On my 2023 Exceler the parts diagram shows the part number called "Collar(F)" goes on the outside but you placed it on the inside at minute 8:59 to 9:40. So which way is correct, inside or outside?? I think I took mine from the outside when I disassembled it, but then found it difficult to put it back because it didn't feel right. Thanks for the bearings.
I apologize but i have never opened the 2023 Exceller, hence the title is just Legalis. Please follow your diagram. Bearings should still fit.
@@ifishcatfish it looks exactly the same, exterior is the same, interior has the same parts, they are identical.
great tutorial, well done. I have one question. what is the purpose of this black "bridge" above the line roller? it is connected to bail. does it have any function?
i think its providing additional support to the other piece of plastic thats holding the bail wire.
it seems like i can't do both bearing like how you're doing yours. Somehow, the bearing i purchased from om you for the 23 legalis line roller is slightly thicker just by a hair. so i ended up doing 1 bearing at the back and 1 bushing on the front. i have the 2000sp and xh btw
the letters dont matter, u should still fit both bearings. Yes, they are a hair thicker than the bushing, but there is extra space there and it works perfect. Do just like the video and both will fit!
These bearings fit my 2023 Legalis 2500 but the spacer is different so you can only use one bearing on the back side which is fine ...still makes it a lot better and the back side bearing is plenty to support it with the bushing in front ..also keeps the water out
sorry to hear that. I guess you have a spare now : ) I can't afford to buy all sizes to test them. But i will update the product information with your feedback now!
This bearings are good for the 2500 model also? Thank you
I don't have that reel but I am 99% certain. If they don't fit i will give u a refund. Sizes 1000 to 4000 alsways have the same line roller, but... i have not confirmed it personally in this model.
I ordered them, will see if they are good.
@@stefankormos380 would be nice to confirm that so i can tell others they fit
For sure
I got the bearings and I can confirm that they are good for 2500. Thank you
Cant wait for the sahara tutorial!
do me a favor, remove one of your shims. When u wobble the line roller with your nail, there should be just a little bit free play, but not much. I think if u use both that creates too much space and unnecessary wobble which may be the reason for your noise
@ifishcatfish I will try this and let you know how it works, I also will try to get the housing to sit perfectly!
I also wanted to let you know those minibea abecs I tried have drastically improved the feel of my reels, best part is they are quiet! One of my reels had a burr on the bushing, so the reel feels smoother now also!
@@12345B I just finished recording the video. I have no washers in my reel and it runs perfect. Literally just replace the metal bushing with bearing. If you want some extra free play u can use one washer, but no more than that. I will try to edit and publish tomorrow. Sahara is even easier than Legalis, but to be 100% honest, i did it quite a few times myself the first time until i figure the right way to put these parts there : )
@ifishcatfish thanks so much for the update, I will try this again, I originally installed with zero shims but had scraping, I think you where right that I did not get the housing to sit correctly, I will be happy to await your video! Thanks so much for great 1 on 1, I sung your praises to all my UL friends, u are a star
From my short experience with handle knob of penn authority 4500 and shimano stella 6000hgc the knob of shimano knob will run almost 4 times longer than that of authority , and i guess this is due to the ball bearings seal is more tighter with authority which more wellcome for good water protection.
No.. not related to water protection. Just shimming.
Will you be restocking these bearings soon? Just ordered this reel from Japan. Your site says sold on these bearings out as of today. Thanks!
next week they will be available. Sign up for the newsletter if u want to be notified
@@ifishcatfish Thanks! Do you know if the Daiwa handle bearings that you sell will also fit this reel?
@@BanuelosBuilds of course. They will fit any daiwa or shimano spinning reel up to size 4000
Hello! I have a lexa 23 3000 and a fuego 23 5000, and i wish to upgrade the line roller with these bearings. However it seems that its out of stock in your website. May I know if you are planning to restock these bearings soon?
in 3 weeks or so. The bearings were shipped by sea. I don't know if these large reels use the same bearings. I have Sahara 4000 use the same bearings as Sahara 2000, so its possible, but i don't know for sure..
@@ifishcatfish thanks for replying. I guess there's only one way to find out. I'll prolly get one set first just to be safe! Have a good day!
Very Smooth
Hi Bobby!
Thank you. Very useful. Where to buy this bearings?
ifishtackle.com It is in the description of every single video i post
Where can I buy the bearing for size 3000 legalist?
When will you have more line roller bearing kits?
which one is out of stock?
everything is in stock
Great video
Amazing video as always :)
Will we be getting a riview of the airity st?
yes.
@@ifishcatfish
:D
Little Update from Germany. I ordered 2 Legalis 23 Lt 1000D, because of the smoothness,you talked about and because of the screw in handle. The german model has no screw in handle. I'm totally disappointed and send both reels back😭
just for screw in handle??? A bit extreme... did it even have free play? And let me ask you, was it golden handle on the first place? Or did u order the old model?
I ordered the new model. I have the old model, so I know the difference. Both reels have a lot of freeplay. That's not acceptable.
D model old type,, p model have screw type
Do you have any free play in the handle so far and if so do you know how to fix it?
Every reel in the world has free play in the handle, including Vanquish, Exist and Stella. That is the only way to have low resistance. Also, don't forget the legalis is a $60 reel, you don't want to have unreasonable expectations.
And, no, radial play cannot be 'fixed'. Axial play can be adjusted but not radial. If the bearings have no free play the balls will run very tight
@@ifishcatfish ok thank you
You can shim the main gear mesh with shims from daiwa but Shimano shims work also
@@Thebankfisher No. Shimming the gears can ONLY reduce axial play. But he is talking about radial play, and there is no fix for that, other than getting bearings with tighter tolerances. Bearings will tighter tolerances will have more resistance. There is no fix for radial play
Will you have any shielded bearings that fit?
No, not possible to make a shielded besring of this size. Tslked to the factory
Can someone send me a link for the bearings ?
Hello,where can I buy these bearings please? Regards Ronald
open the description box below the video. There is a link there.. Let me know if u can't find it..
If there’s an existing bearing you don’t need to replace it. And if you want no resistance when the bearing is spinning just clean it and it’ll spin smooth, fast, and freely. The resistance in the bearing is from it being dirty or there’s some sort of lubricant in it.
I agree but there is no bearing in this case. You are replacing plastic bushing with bearing.
Also, this location sees a lot of water. All bearings with time will corode and develop deposits and thats not sometjing u can clean.. Can u clean the bearings in the wheelhub of your car? This bearing sees a lot of miles and a lot of spinning
@@ifishcatfish yes, a bearing on a wheel hub can be cleaned and be rebuild if you have the proper tools to disassemble it because it’s not a sealed bearing just like the bearings on most fishing reels, none sealed bearings. I agree that the bearing can rust but how many people dip their reels under water, I’m sure you don’t. And yes it can rust if you surf fish but for fresh water it’ll most likely not rust but just get dirty. The miles you put on your reel does not determine rust it’s how you take care of your reels. I’m not trying to throw you under the bus but that’s just what I know as a regular spinning reel maintenance. But don’t take my comment negative because I love your videos and learned a lot from it, thanks. I also just purchased from your online store. 😊
@@ifishcatfish I agree with you but I’m just proposing that if there’s a bearing there it doesn’t need to be replace. And if it’s dirty it doesn’t need to be replace. I want to ask you, how much can you tell from a plastic bushing/bearing to a ceramic bearing on performance being blind folded, maybe you don’t even have to be blind folded? I’ll tell you my opinion, little to nothing. I upgraded most of my shimano FL reel bearings and it’s slightly smoother but performance is the same, my personal opinion.
@@EK99_00 the bearing in this video is inside the line roller. The line roller is ALWAYS WET, because the line you reel brings water from the lake.
The wheelhub bearings cannot be cleaned and restored because there is metal wear after 80 000 miles that can no longer be restored with cleaning..
I appreciate the business and im not trying to be argumentative, but i do want to clarify your comments because many people read them
What is the size of your bearings, 3x7x2.5 ???
No.
@@ifishcatfish I'm in Vietnam, could you please give me the size bearings?
@@CuongNguyen-js8ny 3x7x2 NOT 2.5
where is your store?
He has it in his description, they are good bearings 👍
let me know if u can't find it.
I prefer and use pure ceramic in handles. No ristance or rust or lube needed. Do it once and forget about it.
From that angle i agree. But they very expensive and hard to justify for cheap reels
Do you have any bearings to replace the line roller bush in the saltist mq in the 4000 size
i may, but i have never opened that reel..
BFS gear heads know lots about bearings. 😂
i aint no BFS head : )
Why not add bearings to the handle also?
i want to use this video to be short and used as instructions.. Otherwise, yes, you are correct, there is more than can be done to this reel : )
@@12345B I’ve got 3 dozens of Aliexpress Abec 9(4x7x2.5)for all of the handles and worm gears. Yes, I’ve used them all up. Will see how they will hold up. Call me crazy. LOL
@@ifishcatfishcan you do instructional video on that also ,,,,many of never knew the difference between a bearing and and bushing until we came to be an Ifish disciples.