New Haval Jolion Hybrid Review - Pricing, fuel consumption test, specs and practicality
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Haval continues its onslaught of the new car market in South Africa with this, the HEV version of the popular Jolion. Is it worth the extra spend? We find out.
Join our video journalist Ciro De Siena as he takes us on a thorough tour of the brand new Haval Jolion Hybrid, launching in South Africa on the day this video goes live, 24 January 2023.
The Haval Jolion is now one of the most popular passenger cars on our roads, and Haval is hoping that rising fuel prices might drive more motorists to consider new energy alternatives, such as this Jolion HEV hybrid.
But at a significant price premium, is it worth the extra spend? And how does it compare to its key rival, the Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid, which is quite a lot cheaper?
We'd like to hear your thoughts in the comments below.
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Fuel consumption
2:14 - Engine
2:42 - Power and torque
3:47 - Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid
4:49 - Electric drivetrain
5:47 - EV Mode
6:15 - Battery
7:48 - Driving experience
8:46 - Pricing
10:05 - Interior
15:10 - Service Plan and Warranty
15:25 - Rear seats
16:46 - The boot/trunk
18:49 - Conclusion
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I’m in Australia. Partner bought the H6 Lux HEV. On the highway yesterday, reaching speed of 100km/h the car was still in EV mode. Awesome vehicle. I like the Jolion HEV and would like to drive it myself.
You are the guy that convinced me to haval jolion super luxury 2021
Lol...missed this peculiarly pleasurable watching experience, since the last video, of course. Have a splendid year ahead, Ciro.
to get a corolla cross for retail price, you either have sit on a year+ long waiting list or pay 100k extra so this is really a no brainer.
Another great piece Ciro & team 💪
You can change the volume of the indicator using the screen
Great review, thank you Cirro.
I came across this page from watching your review on the jolion, which I thought was awesome, and I was sold! I enjoy your excitement, enthusiasm and playfulness when reviewing a car. You sound like me when I first went to view the jolion (which I didn't test drive because I'm intimidated by automatic cars since I've always driven a manual) you've gained a subscriber! ❤
What a lovely comment, thank you. And thanks for subscribing, we're glad to have you on board. We have over 700 videos on the channel, we hope you find them helpful.
This is the best car review I have seen so far on the Haval Jolion. Excellence at its finest!
Good useable review Ciro.
This hybrid Jolion looks like an attractive option.
The motor manufacturers in South Africa are going to have to up their game. Haval is making huge in road's in the market. The Haval brand is superb value for money great build quality and highly specced as standard. There's much more to come from Haval South Africa.
as above not available in the UK unless they've branded it in a way I can't work out
Well, it is no wonder, the West are busy wishing the Chinese away.
L😆L
@@Mzwandile_Makhowane OK so let's extend the joke, is ZA "the West" or not ? Open question.
@@wmtarr886 South Africa is an African country, right at the very tip of its African continent, occupied by prejudiced ideological minorities with western inclinations.
@@Mzwandile_Makhowane I had to leave in the 1980's so you're not teaching me anything
Thanks great info. Hoping Haval will bring the H6 PHEV to SA. From reviews it has a great EV range compared to other PHEVs.
I'm becoming a Haval fan now
We all are 😂
My view is that if you are looking for a hybrid like this and seriously considering the Jolion then you’r not too budget conscious - and then you may as well spend the extra R100k and get the H6 Hybrid - which is just so much more everything.
Jahan, you are a good man!
The difference in power between this and the corolla cross is crazy,an entire polos worth of power
The difference in longevity between this and the Corolla Cross is crazy, an entire decade or two!
@Labour Law Act I haven't seen any issues with havals and new toyotas are not what they used to be reliability wise
@@labourlawact7826 it ain’t the same Corolla 20 years ago.
@@scalemodeltutor9841 True.
Even Toyota is going the route of planned obsolescence. It's so sad. 😥😥
@@labourlawact7826it's very strange that they're offering a 10 year unlimited km's warrantee on their hybrid vehicles if what you say is true?
Legend has it, Ciro is still in EV
Great review Ciro. At R549k, the base hybrid is R206k more than the base model 1.5 litre petrol Jolion. That would take, what, 100 years or so to recoup in fuel savings. By contrast, the difference between the base model Cross and the hybrid Cross is only R24k.
Exactly what I was thinking
Your problem with the Cross is, you have to wait more than a year, somethimes 2 for a new car. If you buy it second hand, you pay more than Jolion new.
Love what Havaal is bringing to SA. Thanks for a great review. Pity about the boot space. Could you please do a review of the volvo xc 40 recharge?
We're glad you enjoyed the review, thanks for watching. And good news! We have reviewed the XC40 Recharge, you'll find the video here: ruclips.net/video/qzAEY9RBWK0/видео.html
What is the second hand implications of batteries in hybrid vehicles. How long do they last and what do they cost to replace?
I live in NZ and took the plunge in December 2022 as Haval had a sale and the Hybrid version just came out. Sale was possibly because Haval is nowhere near as popular here compared to SA. You can only buy the Ultra spec here for the Hybrid model but the sale reduced the $43,490 retail price although the "on the road" (registration etc) cost ate significantly into that "saving". Clearly SA is taxing the crap out of new imports, given what I can buy the Ultra version for here vs Super Lux there 🥴 However, it's not all taxes I expect - here in NZ motor or service plans are not included, you have to purchase that on top, if available. NZ government does sweeten the pot a bit given their clean car rebate scheme, again Jolion Hybrid won't get you anywhere near the rebates full EVs get but still a nice little cash back. One common truth is that you can still buy a heck of a lot of fuel for the price difference between the petrol and Hybrid versions.
In Australia and other countries, the Corolla Cross has a 2.0L AWD drivetrain instead of the 1.8 FWD we get here.
Even their hybrid has 146KW power much more powerful than the jolion
I wish they can change into this grille for all the Jolions, looks way better than those ribs. 🤔
Just bought my corolla xs hybrid 4 months back, its been a joy to ride with.I am very sedated driver and get 5.3-5.5/100km. Seeing this review, i see this Haval is a typical suv with the hybrid addon. But i feel the entire mindset of those going for hybrid should be efficiency and not peak power output, pushing these peak torque figures means you are going to lose a lot of efficiency in the long term. The boot is a joke on this car and no spare wheel for that price point of 540k even for the base model is quite high. If you have the money and don't have the patience to wait for the corolla cross go for this,. if you just looking at peak torque figures just buy the normal jollion or H6. Just as Ciro says, i did feel the lack of power when i was in the highways, especially on this recent trip to Drakensburg from Joburg, but the power mode came super handy in the passes where the engine is more responsive.
I GET ON THE JOLION HEV 4.3 TO 4.6
A great solution to no spare wheel is fitting tire safety bands. These go between the rim and tire and essentially convert your tires to run flats at a fraction of the cost of replacing all four tires to run flats. Plus when it comes time to replace the tires you can replace it with normal tires and don't have to pay extra for special run flat tires.
Those bands serve no purpose except preventing the tyre from slipping off the rim when flat. Suggesting they convert your tyres to runflat is misleading
there is another argument that if your use is mainly urban (i.e. this isn't actually an off-road vehicle) you are always within calling distance of a breakdown service and the beast hardly ever breaks down so why waste space on the tire that never gets used ?
Nonsense. Those safety bands are more of a headache as not all tyre shops have the equipment necessary to remove a tyre with the band installed. Rather just carry a small spare or those tyre can inflator things
Me watching this still owning a 02 jetta 4 tdi. 5 to 6 over 100 regularly. I know it's not apples to apples.
Hey Ciro, When are you guys going to review the latest Mahindra XUV 700??
So I just purchased a Jolion HEV. 2 weeks ago. My first tank of fuel at 5.1L per 100km. So about 920km. So figures are right but it’s how you drive. Boot is small but usable. Single pedal drive works well. Since I have electric BMW i3 as well I am used to Single pedal and uses less breaks so you will save if you use it.
Also test drove the Corolla cross hybrid. Smaller cabin, less features and noisy motor with very little power vs the Haval.
Thanks for sharing your experience. We wish you many happy miles with your new wheels!
I GET 4.3 TO 4.6 ON JOLION HEV
thats what i am getting now@@corinneterblanche5911
Can’t be the only one who tried to skip the budget insurance ad 😂😂
strangely enough I find the advert entertaining rather than obtrusive because I am in another country
Which country are you from?
Im using Bave and Im like wtf did this Ad come in here.
I'm sure you're the only one
@@andrefortuin4554 I am from ZA now in UK
On the part where you are about to say, “this car has a particularly loud indicator…” I see something leaking by the front left tyre. Not sure if that is normal
In Australia we also get a 7 year unlimited kilometre warranty
Thank you for the wonderful review. I bought a Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid XR. I was looking at the Haval H6 hybrid but at the end of the day I chose reliability and proven technology over some other extras that Haval is offering.
I have been driving the Toyota now for 5000km and I absolutely love this vehicle. It feels like it will last a very long time.
It is not fast but with that 1800cc Toyota engine, you get that quality that will last many years.
It is the perfect size suv.
🤣🤣🤣
I'm seriously considering the XS Hybrid. I'm glad to hear that you have faith in it
Better off with Toyota, at least it will last 20 years if well look after
It’s good u bought the cross cuz i bought the h6and i the different modes like sport off-road the is no difference to the normal version
Good on you Hannes, I took a Haval on the freeway and what a dreadful experience. The salesman tried his best to stop the freeway drive, lucky I did.
May I please get clarity on whether Haval Jolion 1.8 S super luxury is different to the Haval Jolion S(High spec) that was mentioned in the video that cost R579k or it is one and the same thing?
Haval Jolion 1.5 S super luxury not 1.8**
It's 1.5 with more 130 kw S, super luxury is 1.5 and 105 kw I am driving currently
That lack of a spare wheel and the sacrifice of trunk space in all full hybrids are why I probably would pick an efficient ice vehicle or mild hybrid over them.
His brother Wuling Almaz in indonesia from SAIC colaborated with General motor with 2000 cc NA Hybrid. 7 seater
Heeeello, Ciro! Sometimes I view so I could hear the "Heeello."
I am going to buy one of those. I need the fuel economy.
Did I hear correctly that the fuel consumption is 5.6l per 100, once the ICE kicks in?
On the H6 hybrid got 11L to the 100, once the ICE kicked in....
You should include 0 - 100 km/h tests in your reviews....please
Please edict me a bit
So does it mean once you pass 50 or 60kh the car automatically move from EV mode to normal mode##?does it mean EV mode can't drive more 60kh only drivers less than 60kh?
I was thinking the same thing.
I don't think this is a fag race vehicle, if you are trying to get your family from one robot to the next faster than someone else this probably isn't the car for you :)
@@musamathevula9139 to my knowledge its a hybrid, not a fully electric car. Speeds above 60km/h require a fair amount of energy that a hybrid battery would not be able to produce, hence it switches to engine mode. Otherwise it would be a fully electric car.
What is the point of 0 -100 on reviews for everyday cars?
Great as always Ciro! Please can we get a review of the new petrol Haval Jolion S?🙏
There's a new Jolion out?? My goodness, car manufacturers are worse than cellphone manufacturers. While you're still enjoying your "latest model" one blink and it's no longer!! At this rate, I'd have to wait forever to buy a Jolion! 😅
Can we upgrade to the Gazebo(foldable campmaster ones) test for Capetonians 🤣
My take on this is that if you want a Haval Jolion, just go for the ICE Jolion...
If you want a hybrid get a Toyota/Lexus product, they have perfected hybrid powertrains
Ciro please review the Chery tiggo pro max
Please do a review on the new Kia Rio 😁
Mmmmmmm not much difference from the previous generation jolion however now this one is confusing I wish you had the S one model I think I'd have been able to decide better I must say Haval is actually cementing it's place in this sigment.... One feature I loved here as well is the single drive pedal hahaha definitely worth it especially for daily drive through traffic.
It's the same generation of Jolion just with a hybrid drivetrain
There is no previous gen Jolion. This is the only currently gen and model , this is just a hybrid model addition to the fleet
Is this fwd or awd
Have a day....
I hope you have temporary plates. I see far too many dealer cars driving around with no reg plates.
What does it mean when he says 5 year 60 000KM service plan? Do you service the car every 60 000KMs? or your 5 years service plan ends at 60 000KMs or within 5 years?
Hi there, yes the service plan is 5years/60,000km in length, which ever comes first. The service interval is 15,000km. Thanks for watching
Ends at 60K or 5 years. If you do 60k in three years you lose 2 years if you get to 5 years at 40K then you lose 20K
@@mosesmaseko1501 Thank you
How does the electric motor recharge? Is it a plug-in hybrid, or is the electric motor self-charging?
I stand corrected, but I think it recharges the battery when it switches to the petrol motor.
Correct, this is a closed loop hybrid and does not need to be plugged in. The battery is charged through regeneration and via the petrol motor. Thanks for watching!
Haval/GWM is good !!!
That's a really huge indicator light
The cross we have on sale here in Australia has a 2 lt motor with a combined output of 146kw..
Basically Pay more for fuel consumption(hybrid). I have a Haval Jolion Super Lux and I hate the interface safety features and extremely high fuel consumption.
Hyundai atos review?
So R135 000 difference between this and the petrol Luxury. That's R2 000 every month for five years. I don't think the extra fuel consumption on the petrol luxury would come to that.
Try to refrain from using car jargon, like "ice". I know what it means but a lot of people watching these videos, don't.
I have the same car 😊
Eish... That boot and lack of spare wheel is a deal-breaker. Such a shame, cause this is really a good city car!!
A very easy solution to this would be to fit safety bands which go between the rim and tire and acts as a run flat. It is a much cheaper solution than changing all four tires to run flats.
Good Lord! Didnt know this existed!
Please please do the new Mahindra XUV700, it's definitely a worthy contender in the SUV market, very keen to get an opinion on it.
“Introducing you to my knees” 😂😂😂
Bud love your reviews! But you seem to be growing annually 🤣
The Jowett javellin was a classic car. This name almost rhyms with that. 😄😄
I just feel my super luxury 2021 feel old after all the new models hev, s sport very confusing
I wonder why they removed his Apple Watch around the 13:46 mark in this video.😄
Good eye...I think Ciro needed to charge it too 🤣
Good video as always. Although I agree with your sentiments about the government, but may we keep to reviewing the vehicles instead of adding politics and throwing shade
I don't know why Doesn't Toyota SA give us the more powerful corolla cross 2.0 Hybrid like the USA get and Australia because that one beats the haval jolion
Rather buy the normal Super Luxury. You can fill up a lot of times more for that 130k difference in price...
I suppose you mean 30k difference 🤔
You mixed the figures for the electric motor and the engine...
Ciro now you are really putting me in a dilemma. Corolla Cross Hybrid XR or this? Not so easy...
And with the Suzuki Grand Vitara Hybrid coming soon, the Corolla Cross is getting some serious competition
This.
Cross, and when u trade it in you will thank me, u gonna have depreciation like a brick compared to the cross
Why buy a non plug in hybrid?? The fuel consumption isnt much better than just a normal 1.8....
@@ashleygovender815 lol but you way over payed at the start for a badge.... toyota buyers are just silly.... also just a 3 year warranty with toyota.... insanity lol
It's so hot, you lost me at the KW and NM
Brilliant car the Jolion HEV
How does the Cross Hybrid provide a spare typre but not the Haval?
In dangerous SA this is not a good thing.
Toyota has been doing hybrids for 25 years so they’ve designed the battery to fit under the back row seat, while other manufacturers “retrofit” the battery and place it in the boot, using up valuable space needed for the spare tyre and cooler boxes!
It's a lovely vehicle, but the spare-wheel part kills me
I can do 60km/h in full EV mode in the Corolla Cross.
78KM IN JOLION
What scares me about hybrids and evs, is long term ownership. What happens when things start going wrong? These very high tech cars will be very expensive to fix. I guess ev owners will have no choice but to keep extending the warranty indefinitely. Perhaps leasing will predominate? There are going to be a lot of evs a few years from now, that are just not viable to repair.
My only gripe with these Jolions is that they just do not look like their underpinnings are strong enough to support the car's weight!!! The tires look to small and it appears to wallow when driving. I have seen quite a few of them on our roads lately that appear like they are overdue for a wheel-alignment... I hope it's not the suspension rods \ axles that are bending over time; under the weight of the car.
7 years, Unlimited Kms Waranty in Australia
Why hybrid and PHEV still exist between ICE and EV? What are the additional costs for hybrid and PHEV?
1.6kwh battery is swak... really tiny... If you really want to save fuel, get a plug in hybrid. Toyota is launching new models in SA this year.
What’s up with haval with SUVs all the time?
Can they not have other cars besides SUVs?
How about hatchbacks, sedans please just something different for once
120-150kw should be the minimum for a high specced SUV. You need power to move that weight. Honestly the 90kw in the Toyota would be undrivable for me.
This will get you there. The Toyota will take you there and get you back home.
obverse fact: the Haval hasn't been released in the UK
8.24 The GWM/Haval is better than the Toyota C.Cross, loyal Toyota guys will not like this but it is what it is. Haval is coming for everything.
So I did a quick spreadsheet looking at relative costs of a Jolion S with fuel consumption of 7.5L, and Jolion HEV with fuel consumption of 6L/100km, and their relative retail prices (used top spec models for each car), and even after accounting for savings in fuel, Jolion HEV works out about 80k more expensive after 5 years of paying off the vehicle. So I think they got the HEV pricing wrong. Granted its a premium technology with small numbers currently so you're paying extra for small demand, but there are no monetary savings realised with the HEV. You just feel good because you're saving the earth one accelerator press at a time 😂
In real life apparently Jolion owners do not get to that claimed 7.5L/100km figure, whereas with this HEV model it is possible to get to 6L/100km or better as Ciro has demonstrated. So the difference would be less - but yes, I get your point you are trying to get across
@@ishakemyhead799 fair point, I also added in a guesstimate adjustment for real world fuel consumption compared to what is reported, but I assumed they both increased by 25% whereas you say that jolion S is more whereas HEV is similar
Fair. .
I also checked again and the number of kms travelled per month actually affects the difference: I assumed 1000kms travelled per month, but as your monthly distance travelled increases, HEV savings also become more apparent, becoming cheaper at around 2700kms per month.
So my earlier comment only holds in certain scenarios, but point is that it is important to do this exercise before assuming you will save money because of lower fuel consumption.
Thanks for comment!
I'd only buy one of these with a guaranteed buy back.
Ciro, you provided a lot of confusing (and incorrect) info here. First, you mix up the kW and Nm figures of the engine and battery (and the engine is turbo charged, not naturally aspirated). Secondly, first you say there are two spec levels - S and “non S”. Later on you correctly refer to the high spec as Super Luxury. The two spec levels on the HEV is Luxury and Super Luxury. There is also a new “S” model (non HEV) with slightly higher kW and Nm figures than the rest of the range. Other publications have correctly reported on all of these new models. To err is human but I expected a little bit more from you in this video!
Hi there Andre, we have confirmed with Haval and the engine is not turbocharged as some outlets are reporting. Additionally, as we had the car early, before the SA press information was available, we had to rely on Australian reviews, which state the kW output as 139kW, not 140kW as Haval SA later stated. We apologise for the confusion around the name of the variants, that was an internal miscommunication. We endeavour to provide the first look at a new vehicle for our audience but sometimes that means we are working off of bare bones information, or information which later changes. We hope you found the rest of the video helpful and we thank you for supporting our channel.
@@Carscoza Thank you for the clarification, it is appreciated. I appreciate that you want the “first look” of a new vehicle out asap, but it wouldn’t hurt to just hold on a little bit longer to confirm specs etc. as it may be frustrating or confusing to watch as in this case. Lastly, as someone else has also commented, please consider testing the 0-100 figures as many other global channels do - especially on vehicles from Haval etc. which do not provide those figures. Thank you for creating all these videos, looking forward to many more interesting ones this year.
Any car with no spare wheel in SA takes it off my list. Boot impractical. Price not competitive with the Toyota Cross. So sad. I had high hopes.
You mean 180kW total output...
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When it comes to trade in time...who's gonna be crying then😂....I will stick with proven reliability and good value that makes sense... Toyota LEAD THE WAY!
Nice car great review as always, but that is one ugly indicator.
No spare wheel in SA is a deal breaker. If you get a flat tyre you are screwed.
The is no kuhmo in sa
So in a nushell: pay more up front. Finance at prime+, to save money on fuel... Hmmm... Hybrids.
i don't like the new app, should've left the old one as is. Much simpler to use.
no spare tyre on south african roads? thats a no from me.
16:07 Wow, wait ✋ who measures height in FEET! Don't pretend you come from one of those countries with electricity.
-You forgot to mention the RAV4 Hybrid E-Four. Yes, it more expensive, but it also offers AWD.
-Yes, the Haval is "bang for your buck" and much more exciting than the Toyota offerings, but the Toyota's would be worth double-the-money (compared to the Haval's trade-in values) after 10 years or 200 000km.
-Lastly, Toyota offer that total piece of mind motoring, while Haval oddly just refuses to participate in JD Power Reliability (or similar) surveys?
*Most people buy Chinese because they sort of have to, not because they want to. (SA's unfortunate economic crises is giving many "cheaper brands" from China and India lots of reason to do be happy with their sales figures...)
😮no spare tyre that sucks
no spare wheel...hmmmmmmmmmmm
Still made in China, and only time will tell, lets check hellopeter in the next year wait a bit and do research first. A salesman is not your friend, they are working for their pockets. 😂