That Guy Draws NSFW Content of His Entire D&D Party | RPG Horror Stories
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- What would you do if you found out one of the players made inappropriate drawings of your player character? Today's dnd horror stories from r/rpghorrorstories are about that guy who draws NSFW of the entire D&D party.
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Tbh I never really got how a dm could just change a backstory even against the wishes of the player
Yeah, it seems all too common of an occurrence. I get trying to have a back and forth to make the character fit, but to take what was discussed before and just change it feels like you ripping their character to pieces in front of them.
For real, it’s so weird. As a dm I’ll give my players guidelines for what works best in the setting and I’ll ask them to change parts but never change anything against their wishes. Even when I implement their backstories into the campaigns I ask them questions about how they imagine those aspect looking to get it as close to their vision as possible and it baffles me that some dms can just throw character backstories away?
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I’m about to run a campaign and I’m doing a get to know each other game before we start. 5 players. Each pc are a bit dark, their current job is to settle a dispute between a holy and Druid cattle farmer. Their current plan is to kill the holy person and steal her wheat. What I’m going to do is give HL 2 guys to help her fight if needed maybe a 3rd if they start getting steam rolled.
My goal is to have them fight the boss to end the quest rather then just killing the HL, I want them to learn to work together to actually be dark rather then 12 different plan trying to show how cool they are alone
If there going to be dark might as well make them do it right, because friendship is power
honestly if it happened to me, i would immediately stop showing up for the campaign. they obviously don't need/want me to play if they are just going to say no to my input into the collective story, especially if its something like a backstory where i have been playing this entire time with completely different information in my head about what had previously happened in the story.
Stories like these make me realize just how lucky I am that my closest friends are into dnd and that I can trust them as players. The worst I’ve had since I started dming is a friend who would lie about his rolls (who then proceeded to ghost me every time I’d ask him if he would be at a session or if he still wanted to be involved for months despite telling me he was still interested in playing in the campaign) and I’m super super lucky about that
I feel super lucky whenever I read a story like this. I would hate for it to happen to anyone, but I’m glad the few groups I’ve been in things have gone well!
@@lootgoblinmarketplace For real. I’m also the kind of person to see others with bad experiences and get the urge to invite them to something I dm, but I just can’t handle dming more than a couple of campaigns at once unfortunately.
What’s fun is that I did meet one person from RUclips comments like this and he not only dms for me sometimes but he plays in one of my campaigns :D Best thing to come out of a youtube comment for sure
I should’ve lied about my rolls. 🤣
I’ve only partly played 1 campaign. I’m completely new and the DM was also a first time DM but apparently the dice set I have are balanced quite poorly; the absolute vast majority of my rolls were under 9! Trying to step over a small log? Haha, nope! A tumble I be goin! Help someone out of a pitfall? NOPE! Critical failure! I fall in too! Go to take a swing at a Smurf cat thing? Haha! Nope! Lost my weapon due to another critical failure for like the 7th time that session! …. Was. Not. Fun. Luckily(but unfortunately) the DM had to quit DMing for a while due to IRL issues that came up and didn’t have the time nor energy to continue DMing… so I was spared the ongoing pain and suffering that was in my fate with these cursed dice.
Maybe I’ll roll the dice 3 times, every time, and just take the average of the 3 rolls if I ever try DND again. But then again, the average would likely never get above 12…
@@blankityblank4362 lmao YIKES, that sounds awful! It sounds like you need a new set and to keep that set on display instead of in use
A DM should never set a story in stone before a game happens, if you want to write a book then do it. Don’t submit others to what you want, that’s not the role of the Game Master
Yeah, I get playing D&D for some inspiration and taking the story threads you liked from the campaign and then using your writing skills to tweak it so it flows better for a book. But that is all after the fact!
Setting a story - good.
Punishing PC's because they don't care / follow the stories. - Bad
Youch, this story is one of the truly scary ones out there. Spine chilling, even.
Thank you for taking the time to talk to us all!
Yeah it’s kind of wild how people can downplay these actions
@Jaceareeno "Copyright exists from the moment the work is created." Please learn copyright law before you keep claiming everyone else is entitled.
I like to write as a dm, I will create concepts, and if I think they fit in someone else backstory I will ask and offer, if not I will use it later in a different way, CONSENT is vital
I agree, I feel like if you are going to be recreating the campaign into a book that’s something that needs to be brought up early.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I like books but I don't think I would be fine writing about the characters my friends created, they aren't mine, but I would love to maybe use my notes for a module, thanks tot heir creativity I had to increase the specs of the things that happen in the setting, the current one is a dark sun/spelljamer inspired campaign, with a bit of a theme of the gold rush, so with something so wide they get creative and I have to be on point as well
@@pupsicle5345 I would love to make some of my campaigns modules. I think it would be fun seeing other parties approach the same situations
Is Barbie a undercover agent for GI Joe?
The fact that this was chosen to be the featured comment...
Honestly I could see it. The question is would Ken join Cobra?
OOF.
As somebody who has been in OC communities outside of DnD, that is NOT ok. If you do this on Artfight, for example, you WILL get your account shut down. I have several OCs, including DnD characters, and I absolutely would hate to have anybody draw them with even somewhat scanty clothing. Not in a million years should you draw someone’s OC in a way they are not comfortable with. ESPECIALLY if it’s based on the actual player’s appearance or personality, because to that player, it then feels like THEY are the one being treated this way.
Just be kind to people. Many people love their characters, so make sure to be respectful in how you draw them, and they’ll probably be ecstatic that you took the time to draw something like that!
That’s a good insight. Ignoring D&D entirely, I don’t know if it is promoted really in any community to take an OC and draw them in a way the person that made it would disapprove of (especially if you know objectively that they disapprove since they asked you to stop).
@@lootgoblinmarketplace exactly :)
@Jaceareenopeople’s OCs are often very personal and special to them.
@Jaceareeno you seem confused about basic copyright law. You do not need to file paperwork to have a copyright on something. The moment you create something you have a copyright on it. What filing paperwork does is help you establish to others that it is indeed yours and when you first created it. But it is not required. We aren't talking about a company that stole some person's work and that person needs to prove to the court of law that they created it before the company supposedly did. We are talking about a group of friends. They all know who the creator of the OC is, so they know who has rights to it.
To be clear here, the moment you create something is the moment you have a copyright on it, even if you never file paperwork to establish that fact. If you write a story about a character named Jaceareeno, I may not take your character and put it into my story without your permission. You would own the rights to that character and I would be infringing on your copyright even if you never published the story or filed for a copyright.
No one has a right to tell another what art they can make. this is absurd.
As an artist I make it my policy to only draw someone else's OC if I get their permission to do so, regardless of content. Anything else feels like I could potentially be overstepping some boundaries.
I would expect the same from someone else wanting to draw my OCs, though I probably always say yes. I see it as a minimum curtesy.
I think that’s a good rule of thumb. Even if the person wanted to use the characters for their writings or drawings as a starting point there are still ways to make it less intrusive. There are plenty of instances of authors taking inspiration from a real life celebrity or someone they knew in their past, but they’ll make tweaks and also keep their inspiration anonymous often because at that point they have mixed together enough influences where it isn’t a straight recreation.
fun fact, he fudged permissions by copy pasting them from chats and photo shoping them, the full story is on the discord.
@@son0fgrim That makes it even worse. He knew he should ask permission and decided to fake it so they couldn't say no.
@Jaceareeno It's not just about D&D. It's a common curtesy to ask about this first copyright or no and respecting boundaries. Especially if that OC is based of the creators likeness as was this case, which is more like drawing porn of a real person without their permission which is definitely never ok.
@Jaceareeno No law as far as I'm aware. Just one of those unwritten agreements/common curtesies that if you ignore your an entitled asshole. Though when it involves an actual person without their consent that falls under sexual harassment which is illegal.
I really enjoy these videos as they allow me to peek into the DnD fandom without having to play myself.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to play, but there are numbers of issues with that ranging from not being able to find a group with which to play, to myself just being very unimaginative and not being able to come up with fun ways to play the game.
Honestly have the reason I started getting into horror stories was because I was between campaigns. When you finally find that group that make sense, you’ll have a lot of fun!
The part of being unimaginative is something you can train, I recommend taking a known character (I recommend someone famous, think Harry Potter and the likes), and trying to break then down yourself, what happened to them? How did this affect them? What made them act the way they did? Then you can try and make a similar backstory, but where your character acted differently and for different reasons. This might not work for everyone but this did help me make some okay characters
Edit: before making your character, you can check in the internet about the character and how others broke them down
If you wanna DM and record everyone's characters, their moves, any of it, get permission from Everyone!
Or its theft and misuse of that persons property and character.
What I don’t get is how the author and editor would think that using the exact likeness of these characters and basically recreating the campaign plus NSFW scenes was going to go over well once seen.
Wait, there's players, who actually write backstories that are longer than:„I donno” „I was a pirate” „Don't care, figure something out.”?
I do love that these players had a good bit of depth to their backstory. I think every adventurer can have a local legend story that explains how they got their first level or so (mattering on what level the campaign starts).
@@lootgoblinmarketplace With their permission, I did backstory Sessions where they played a small segment I wrote. They seemed to like it.
Basically, one is a Witch/Druid because her adopted mother wanted to eat her when she was an egg (Owlfolk) she hatched before she started the fire. The witch's legendary words:„Oh no, my dinner!” *Grabs her and hugs her „Imm'a keep you.”
Another was a pirate who's crew revolted and before he drowned, a demon named Tharna saved him in exchange for his service, so pact of the Fathomless. Now he wants to take revenge on his first mate for the treason.
And the last one I did a backstory session with is the Dragonborn Sorceress, where she discovered her powers, but lost her brother to cultists. (He's alive, but endured 12 years of torturous training) Her quest was to find out what his fate was, but she also discovered she was chosen by the Dragon god of Valor and Victory: Nyxator, to be his chosen one. So she has to undergo training before she can use her powers.
It might be bad to have a chosen one, let alone two in the same group, unless, you make them earn their powers. So far, it's been good, friendly competitive. My sister's still the strongest because Cleric though.
@@lootgoblinmarketplacelike in my current campaign my wood elf ranger is an exile from a powerful dragon cult , a backstory can build how you actually roleplay the character. Like due to the cult indoctrination my character has religious related trauma. Though it can be annoying to right a backstory it really does improve RP
okay, im not going to judge what someone does in their free time. its there time. wht they do is what they do. but if you're going to perv on the other characters, why tell anyone? there's no good that can come of it. best case scenario is you freak out the rest of the party
This is truly a horror story … wow ….
Also as a writer myself , and just starting to consider start DMing, I cringed so damned hard
I think the world building process and even just the improvisation of role playing is a great way to flesh out your skills as a writer. As long as you are a DM training your Author chops and not an Author forcing the party through your scripted book as a DM it’s great!
I will take it for 15 silver take it or leave it
Do you have change for 2 gold pieces?
@@lootgoblinmarketplace why I am giving you the 15 silver for the story
"A malevolent spirit in a sword?" Raziel, is that you?!
maybe :P
It seems like that was the inspiration, the DM had others plans though.
But Raziel's sword was his soul from another timeline
I have been in a campaign with a player that liked to draw "NSFW" art of players (and I use NSFW loosely because it can range from just anatomical sketches to, to sketches of my character in the buff to show off something like how a Crit on my character caused them to gain a new scar, and occasionally Smut.) but at least he asks before each piece of art "Hey can I draw X or Y"
Where are these character drawings?
For reference.
So I can definitely avoid them.
That's horrible.
So as a gm i had a player who had a buddy help him wrote a backstory a backstory that i accidentally retconned a few details for for dramatic effect at first(changed a name i didnt remember and also changed the (inciting incident so the 0c had seen one of his teachers die to save him). I was lucky the player liked them and i had other ideas down the pipe to have a mastermind behind this sort of inciting incident added to the backstory. Thing is when i realized me and the codm had rewritten way more than we thought and there was something contradictimg some of those events already (hitherto unmentioned in character) I ran the basic premise of the changes(Cause they foreshadowed stuff for later in the narrative about said masterminds motives) past him and he greenlit it. These ideas can be fine if they do not define the characters future for them and you ASK THE PLAYER FIRST.
naming a place "hotolithia" should be a crime
That one was a little too obvious.
The second the gm mentioned their book, now the backstory changing makes sense: they're a novelist gm.
The players are there to pilot the character's in their scripted story as its recited to them like a cutscene, fun is just a convenient side-effect.
Yeah, it’s sad whenever the novelist puts fun last in these kind of situations.
I feel like if you want to play-test concepts in the session and then “perfect” them on your own time that’s fine… but don’t expect the players to play exactly how you want in the moment.
DMs like this should meet sans the skeleton.
5:39
And now I’m reminded of that one scene from Season 2 of Vox Machina where Billy drew the Party in His NSFW art book.
Where's the rest of the story? Are they still playing in that shitty game knowing their intellectual property is going to be stolen and used to make a profit that they won't receive a part of?
So I can’t speak to if the author ever made the book. The two individuals in this story don’t interact with them anymore. After that Sunday game got called off it just fell apart from there.
I think I would genuinely be more pissed that someone (who's not me) wants to use *_my_* character as the protagonist of *_their_* story.
Like, I get porn drawn of my OCs all the time, but they're *_my_* characters; I've consented to that, and creative control is still in my hands. Using my character in a book without my foreknowledge so that they probably end up completely bastardized or portrayed in ways that would be contrary to their nature-that's a bridge too far for me.
lmfao.
Seriously? It's that aggravating to you?
I've seen this before and I don't want to say it because that part of the internet as whenever that character exists,
That character will always have sexualized version of it
Yeah sadly, anything that is put out in the world has the potential to have someone make it NSFW… I just wish that people would at least be kind enough not to keep sending it (to the group and friends of the group so it keeps getting back to them) even after being asked to stop.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I am a Furry artist that both works that ranged from maps, sceneries to original characters and i am worried on my drawings will get sexualized by some creep even my Fursona that I treated it like my dark alter ego based on my past memories.
(feeds the almighty Algorithmo of DOOOOOM!!!!!)
damn, i'm glad this isn't something that happened to me
love your content btw and your insight
Thank you, I hope that the writer never encounters something like this again. From what it sounds like this was the worse experience they’ve had. So hopefully it’s all uphill from here!
I feel like I need more context. Was the artist guy actually posting them or sharing them with the table? If they just found this stuff in his sketchbook or something, then I don't think it's that bad even if it is creepy to find something like that.
They were sharing them with others and the table. They also planned on publishing a book in which these scenes originally were intended to be described. So the players were very unhappy.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace Ok that's a yikes lol. I remember you mentioning the book in the video and thought it was separate, but maybe I missed the part here they shared the drawings.
Honestly like... I feel the OP is being a bit of an ass about the setting at the start.
Not everything needs to be super complex and deep. Granted, the dm isn't great, but still.
OMG the dm is a neckbeard/nice guy !!!! agh!
Oh my
Yeah, according to the person who wrote the story they have had a much better party since!
If one is drawing spicy work of OCs.
DRAW YOUR *OWN* OCs IN THAT WAY! DON'T DRAW OTHERS' CHARACTERS IN THAT WAY! If you are gonna do this, ask the owner of that OC first.
Also, DM is complicit in this bullshit. Do pardon my brief French.
Yeah, this all could have been avoided by making their own OCs.
As someone who's both a DM *and* a writer, I'd say trying to do both at once like this guy did is a stupid idea. These are two widely different ways to tell a story that do not mix well.... and obviously the whole doing lewd of players without consent from the players is a big no-no.
Yeah, being an author that DMs can be fun because you can test out the basic ideas in a campaign. Basically just throw stuff out there and see what the players latch onto and then you can improve upon it on your own time!
And yeah idk why he thought the party would be okay with the behaviors of his editor.
Ngl I'd try to make a law suit over shit like that
i personally don't understand the issue of 1 player drawing smut for the other player characters. I can totally see the issue if he's drawing stuff of the actual players, but not their characters. they aren't real, as far as I gather, they aren't copyrighted. So I'm missing something. Someone made a NSFW image of my Centaur Rogue, I wouldn't care.
Okay but people can really get into their characters. It’s a form of expression. Having someone do weird stuff with your created character(without your permission ) that you role play as can feel kinda violating, because YOU are the character. It isn’t “my character walked forward towards the orc” it’s “I walk towards the orc”.
While jt maybe just be a “fake character”, to players who really get into their characters (which they crafted) they feel a personal attachment to it.
I guess it would depend on how much you know the person. A long time best friend? Yeah whatever. That’s hilarious.
Someone you hardly know outside of the game sessions? Who also hogs all the attention for his character/himself? Yeah that’s weird to me.
Jovis is that you?
Being uncomfortable with unsolicited nsfw of your ocs is actually not all that uncommon, and not just in dnd circles. It's considered basic decency to ask permission beforehand, which the player in question did not do. The fact that the cleric's character was modeled after her own appearance makes it worse.
One thing that is important to point out is the Cleric’s character is their likeness. I don’t actually know if that is the case for all the players, but for one person they are drawing their self character being intimate with someone else at the table which makes it a step more personal.
It's about consent, and consent is important in fiction and roleplay as well. Characters are a very personal thing - we put a lot of us in them, we accompany them through their life, and we feel their emotions, their struggles, and everything.
If you (the generic you, not You you) asked another player if you can draw some nsfw of their character and they say yes, then all is good. Me and my friends do that all the time.
And if they say no, then great! Now you know not to do that. The reason doesn't matter. Maybe they don't want nsfw of their character. Maybe they don't like imagining their character in nsfw situations. Maybe they don't trust you to represent their character as they would like. Maybe they just don't want you to put your nsfw fantasies on their character.
But if you do that without asking, without permission, it's an overstepping of boundaries. It's a break of trust. Maybe they would have been okay with it if you asked, but now they're just put off by it and by you.
Wait are they really getting this butthurt over their characters getting lewded? Oh give it a rest. I swear half these horror stories are just puritanical freakouts. They are characters. Not real people. Although I will say-how tf is the party learning about this. Sharing this content is weird.
It’s a huge violation of your fellow player’s boundaries and trust to do stuff like that without explicit permission. If it happened to you I’m sure you’d feel differently.
@@Taradoxxi No I wouldn't.
congrats, you are THAT GUY in the story.
From my understanding the party learned about it because the player was commissioning art as well and sharing it around.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace
Oh, that was going to be my one question.
Like, if they flipped through a player’s sketchbook without permission…that would honestly be on them, and that’s an extremely rude thing to do anyway.
But if that player was OPENLY SHARING that stuff TO THE WORLD, absolutely effing not. Go directly to creep jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 gold pieces
are we now trying to tell other people what they are and arent allowed to *draw*?
Holy shit, You are actually in support of telling others what they can and cant draw. wow.. Just... wow.
If you have a problem with me criticizing someone who continued to draw & commission rule 34 of their friends and send it to them after they begged them to stop. I’m very comfortable telling them they shouldn’t be doing that.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace cool, and im comfortable pointing out how absolutely fucked that is. No one has the right to demand anyone else not draw something ffs. The fact that anyone would think thats ok is pretty fucking dystopian lol.
@@DellikkilleDno offense but I feel like if someone asks someone not to draw NSFW art of their ocs the artist should respect them
If someone wants to draw NSFW art of ocs they should make their own ocs
If you don't own the oc and don't have permission to draw NSFW art of the oc then you shouldn't draw the oc
@@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 that is an absurd attitude. The sheer entitlement of thinking you can tell others what they can, and can not draw.
You probably think you have the right to tell others they cant take a photo too.
@@DellikkilleD
I don't think you grasp what they're trying to say.