How to Counter the 5 SUPER BROKEN CARRY HEROES - Best Drafting and Picking Tips - Dota 2 Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @gameleapdota2
    @gameleapdota2  4 года назад +8

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    • @SohanBiswas_SB09
      @SohanBiswas_SB09 4 года назад

      Viper also counters Necro.
      His magic resistance is good against necro's W , along with building up the Q stack of viper, is deadly for necro. If necro uses W, then he goes to ghost shroud form and bam, viper gives magic damage. Atleast in low MMR matches.

    • @jhadtv1208
      @jhadtv1208 4 года назад

      Speed please do a game review to my gameplay please
      Match 5451242494
      Hero: Earth Spirit
      Rank: Legend 2

    • @CollapseDev
      @CollapseDev 4 года назад

      Hi Speed I have a suggestion for you on a new video here it is maybe you have connections that are better than the forums:
      Supports who agree with me share your concerns in the Dota forum suggestions to further improve the play-ability of the hard support role because SUPPORT KILLS DON'T MATTER and you should not be getting abuse for playing your role and not getting kills because that's the carries role and even if you do get kills that shouldn't be the focus of the role and that's why it shouldn't count on your score and this will for example prevent carry CM players from flooding games. The other examples are IO teleports to save carries we want those so incentivize that don't penalize that by having players worry about their kill and death disparity.
      Summary:
      Remember when couriers used to cost 200 gold and wards at 100 a pop and with what gold was that role going to pull that off; with it's starting gold but that would leave you with 300 gold to buy healing items only and no boots which means more deaths and more reports yep. So how would work around that back then well yeah would have to share farm or go jungle which oh you guessed it more reports-oh what a fun role!
      I went to the forums and rallied and a month or two later those changes were made so your welcome guess what action can make a difference!
      Dota is finally beginning to understand that supports are very different from carries and require different changes to the game for that role. My next suggestion would be that all position 5 roles get a 100 gpm 5th ability as a passive that is always one and the second one is the to hide your kills from the your team mates and the enemy team. That's the only way people can take the role seriously because the only incentive to do your role effectively which often involved dying to save your carry is to not get abuse for it.
      It's common for the support roles to have less of everything and more deaths than all other roles so the best strategy for this is to simply hide the hide the kill counter but you can still see it and the only reason you should still see it is for learning and improvement purposes.

  • @tukulterbang
    @tukulterbang 4 года назад +29

    ~Timestamp gang coming through~
    1:30 Dragon Knight
    4:56 Bristleback
    7:19 Lycan
    10:34 MK
    13:20 Necrophos

  • @RapFa-Hater420
    @RapFa-Hater420 4 года назад +40

    Can you make one of these for smurf heros like : Meepo Broodmother etc...

    • @LetsShitPost
      @LetsShitPost 4 года назад

      Meepo: Shaker
      Brood: Shaker, Kunkaa (Lane Kunkaa against her to slow her midgame dominance)

    • @MrLazyJinn
      @MrLazyJinn 4 года назад

      Core ET for pretty much any cheese pick except timbersaw, then pick some magic like pugna or necro

    • @CarpeDiem-rm2vm
      @CarpeDiem-rm2vm 4 года назад +1

      @@LetsShitPost Brood: anything that can destroy her spiderlings amd catch her out (stuns especially).
      Meepo: earthshaker and or anything that has good burst. As well as the ability to single out one meepo clone and burst him. (=team coordination)

    • @muhammadferdy4885
      @muhammadferdy4885 4 года назад

      Meepo: lich, es
      Hes ded

    • @ScottyScopez
      @ScottyScopez 4 года назад +8

      Yeah man the issue with these "smurf/cheese" pickers is not that there isnt a counter. It that they normally last pick in a super favourable match up.

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 года назад +1

    Rod of Atos is the Necro counter. Necrophos is slow, and he's even slower when he uses Ghost Shroud. Generally a Necrophos will outlast his team. And this means he's usually the only one that escapes. A Rod of Atos takes care of this as he won't be able to escape, will waste his Shroud and die to right clicks.
    Gyrocopter is a good Necro counter, since you deal a lot of Magical Damage with your Barrage and your Ulti. Also you get BKB fairly early with Gyro and you also get rid of the rest of the team surrounding Necro during teamfights. This allows your team to pick him off after wiping the rest of the team.

  • @pbnj9320
    @pbnj9320 4 года назад +25

    Bruh I wasn’t paying attention and when he started the list I though he said Dragonite

  • @PerryThePlaticorn
    @PerryThePlaticorn 4 года назад +2

    I've been playing mid AA since the chilling touch rework. He puts out absolutely bonkers damage but is very vulnerable to being jumped on. Once he hits 6 he can solokill his lane opponent or gank every 40 seconds.

  • @samuelzakrisson9791
    @samuelzakrisson9791 4 года назад +7

    Speed when he does a line of speed: what is up guys, SPEED HERE!!

  • @kreger5859
    @kreger5859 4 года назад +9

    I miss the game leap plug that goes like “your team doesn’t deserve your support, BUT HOLY CRAP DO THEY NEED IT”

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 года назад

    Slark and Venomancer are also good Bristle and DK counters. Slark because he takes away all his tankiness, and since DK is generally a frontline tank, he will sap a lot of Essence Shift from him. Also Slark can dispel his stun and is highly mobile. The same applies against Bristle, Slark's nowadays go Diffusal, so not only he will steal Stats he will also steal his mana. As for Veno, the hero has inbuilt negative HP bonus with Poison Sting and he can easily fit a Spirit Vessel in his kit. Also his Ulti last way more than what a BKB can last and he can make them slower with his Q and his Wards.

  • @youssefahmad6991
    @youssefahmad6991 4 года назад

    Isn't bloodseeker considered a good and a classic counter to lycan? I'm 4.3k anyway, picked it safelane vs offlane lycan and despite losing it worked well

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 года назад +1

    Unfortunately the counter against Lycan is to ban Lycan. The hero is too effective at what he does. He needs more than 1 counter and even items to get countered. There's a reason this hero has an insane win rate, is because he's a niche pick. You won't ever see him in a match where he will potentially get countered. And if he gets countered, he requires a huge team effort to put him under control. He can flashfarm, he can split push and he can even teamfight. Considering he generally goes Helm + Necro 3 The key is probably taking care of him before he gets a BKB. Because that is the point of no return.

  • @ginolorenzo4117
    @ginolorenzo4117 4 года назад +4

    Speed: *breaks a vase*
    Speed's mom: IT'S TOTALLY BROKEN!

  • @D-man-online
    @D-man-online 4 года назад

    My favorite Necro counter is Shadow Demon. You can save your ally from Reaper's Scythe, your ult prevents him from popping ghost shroud, soul catcher reduces his overall HP and you do high burst damage after a longer fight with Shadow Poison.

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 года назад

    Considering mid matchups, i would say TA (which is always a solid mid hero regardless) can deal with MK. Sure the laning stage could be annoying, but you have your Shield to tank through Jingu Mastery, you are a Desolator picker + you also have a lot of Burst Negative Armor. And you just need 3 item to start killing enemies. Desolator, Blink and BKB. Personally the match could go both ways. But more often than not, the TA will out damage the MK even if he has Jingu Mastery.

  • @aMokeyMokey
    @aMokeyMokey 4 года назад +8

    You missed Naga vs Lycan. It's like the Meudsa match up except better in every way.

    • @christianramonclydedaguman8527
      @christianramonclydedaguman8527 4 года назад

      I dont understand can u please explain?

    • @Lockhaim_
      @Lockhaim_ 4 года назад

      @@christianramonclydedaguman8527 her Riptide + Illusions do aoe to clear units, has catch with her net, and can catch or protect her team with song. Even if lycan has bkb most of his teammates won't allowing you to focus him down during song! Hope that helps

    • @krishnab326
      @krishnab326 4 года назад

      But doesnt lycan come online way faster than a naga?I feel if the lycan team abuses their timings,they will win pretty easily as lycan is much better than naga this patch.

    • @aMokeyMokey
      @aMokeyMokey 4 года назад

      And naga has high base armour, meaning Lycan and his units struggle to kill the illusions, and riptide shreds Lycan and his units. Naga can cut waves, split push and fight Lycan with relative ease once she has manta (which is better to rush than diffusal vs Lycan.) Song and net make Lycan a ult much less effective. I play both Lycan and naga at divine with a 60%+ winrate with both heroes. The only reason Medusa (also a 60%+ winrate) may be better for some players is that naga requires a level of micro that Medusa doesn’t.

    • @aMokeyMokey
      @aMokeyMokey 4 года назад

      Lycan has got a higher winrate than Naga but not vs naga. Naga hard counters Lycan at every stage of the game.

  • @rafateresinski126
    @rafateresinski126 4 года назад

    i recently started playing dota and love ur vids but most of them assume already some basic knowlegde about the game are there any cool vids on ur channel that are more for begginers?

  • @johnriegnersongotos3405
    @johnriegnersongotos3405 4 года назад

    Speed more of these please!!!.. I REALLY LIKE YOUR TIPS LIKE THIS!!

  • @dhruvraghunath
    @dhruvraghunath 4 года назад +2

    Hey speed, love your videos. I was wondering if you could make a video on how to beat last pick cheese heroes

    • @nosteaI
      @nosteaI 4 года назад

      ban them

  • @pavannagaraj
    @pavannagaraj 4 года назад

    How do you counter sniper??
    I am a low MMR player usually not the carry. Any tips helpful!!

    • @dirtyfingers1623
      @dirtyfingers1623 4 года назад

      Any heroes that can get close to him, one that can prevent him from escaping... spirit breaker is good throughout game and can shut sniper farming down early game, can be played as sup or offlane.

  • @aleksandr75
    @aleksandr75 4 года назад

    what should i do to make heros bodies disappear immidiately like on video?

  • @zarafanai446
    @zarafanai446 4 года назад +1

    How to counter lone druid?

  • @muhaiminazlan4355
    @muhaiminazlan4355 4 года назад

    Commenting to support gameleap. Love your videos. Watch them everyday

  • @dominicgrimaldo6028
    @dominicgrimaldo6028 4 года назад

    Hey Speed, i think you should add break heroes(Viper, Enchant, etc) to counter mk. that Jingu Mastery deals a lot of damage when it procs. those extra 4 hits to proc it again is crucials in a skirmish. Just my opinion though.

  • @Daratum
    @Daratum 4 года назад

    Can u make a video how to counter omniknight as a carry? Recently played some games against an omni mid and u can't really get him because he negates a lot of dmg with his heal and his spells. And as a melee hero u nearly cant run at him to hit cause of his passive...

    • @MrDocwtf
      @MrDocwtf 4 года назад

      Buy diffusal, he die.

  • @momon8738
    @momon8738 4 года назад

    Tbh, I don't know whether magical damage is a thing against necro right now. I mean, yes if necro was intended to be mid and enemy mid fortunately have nukers go swap lane. on my last few games, the enemy tried to counter my necro by picking heavy nukers (lion and sky), but as for the early item I rush 2 bracers, then I built pipe and get the titan silver, suddenly my magic resist is 67%. Sky's ulti even deal almost zero damage to me. Yes I ended up winning that game because of even they 5 man up on me still cant even kill me before my back up come
    .
    But yeah, I still pick heavy nukers to try to counter necro hahah

  • @waleedbinirfan3444
    @waleedbinirfan3444 4 года назад

    what we need actually is a counter for lone druid. basically stomps pub games at lower tiers and is a pretty godlike carry at higher ones

  • @ELBRU17
    @ELBRU17 4 года назад

    Just asking, what happened to venno jungle?

  • @abbas3662
    @abbas3662 4 года назад

    Speed for dk pugna is one of the best if not the best he can shred dk with lifedrain , nether ward is big mana issue for dk he may be able to use spells only once in fight or maybe twice if he gets arcane from support or soul ring and amp all the magic by decap and also he can defend tower with wave clear ability blast in early game specifically . Try pugna against DK believe you’ll make him rage quit

  • @damienvause6221
    @damienvause6221 4 года назад

    Can someone explain to me whats wrong with viper? I always thought the hero is very underrated. It bullies anyone in the lane just like clinkz but better imo bec of the slow, it can jungle bec of nether and skin, tanky for a core and hits hard if you went right click build + dmg talent at lv20. I remember winning against a medusa on late game with this and no it wasnt a stomp game was close. But I always see ppl saying he is bad and doesnt scale well. What am i missing here

    • @4119lightning
      @4119lightning 4 года назад

      Viper Bullys medusa, removes her passive silences her and slows her. Medusa only has ult as escape but lvl 25 silence and she's dead. Although I agree underated hero.

  • @egZiu
    @egZiu 4 года назад

    Speed my dude why are u the only one making vods on gamelep in last perdiod?

  • @RothbardWasRight
    @RothbardWasRight 4 года назад

    I played a lot of lycan in warcraft dota and my template there was farm to level 6, use ult to get a kill, and then go back to farming when ult is down

  • @nbaph-w2i
    @nbaph-w2i 4 года назад

    I like your video tutorial keep uploading sir

  • @alkria
    @alkria 4 года назад +6

    Necro counter: Spirit Vessel.
    Honeslty

  • @joshuasantoyo2646
    @joshuasantoyo2646 4 года назад

    can you please put timestamps for heroes in your descriptions

  • @bokrepbokrep7033
    @bokrepbokrep7033 4 года назад +1

    morph counter pls

  • @gegedota5281
    @gegedota5281 4 года назад

    I think shadow demon is good counter against necro and for lycan mars is good it’s just my addition and opinion

  • @ogilvy85
    @ogilvy85 4 года назад +1

    TECHIES COUNTERS ALL! esp in lower brackets. Love it against as**** bristlebacks and storm spirits and lone druids 😈😈

  • @Ruimney
    @Ruimney 4 года назад

    Speed snapfire is awesome against monkey king and luna is also nice vs necrophos

  • @difsul6852
    @difsul6852 4 года назад +1

    hey bro I'm that necro (14:23) LOL xd MOM IM ON RUclips

  • @the_savatar
    @the_savatar 4 года назад

    Make item guide for example what should we buy against these heroes

  • @smitmoradiya7453
    @smitmoradiya7453 4 года назад +1

    Necro counter : Mid AA ? High attack range, magic damage amp etc

    • @drjp4212
      @drjp4212 4 года назад

      Yes. That makes sense. AA is an anti-tank overall, mainly anti-healing.

  • @SkiSummer
    @SkiSummer 4 года назад +1

    Don't pick Dusa into Lycan, if they have half a braincell they just pick up halberds and Dusa has to grief her own build to counter it. Bad hero, don't pick it.

  • @KidTrigger
    @KidTrigger 4 года назад

    3:51 speed a few months ago you made viper I sale my broken vid and the k yo nerf he got since then is extra mana on his position attack and now you say he’s not that good is it cuz of the new meta?

    • @Chrissbroo
      @Chrissbroo 4 года назад

      reading that gave me a brain aneurysm

  • @r.b0705
    @r.b0705 4 года назад

    leshrac is really good against necro maybe better than some of the ones you mentioned

  • @sanmeshsawant4781
    @sanmeshsawant4781 4 года назад

    What about slark and anti mage?

  • @maykonangelo6441
    @maykonangelo6441 4 года назад

    pls do a video how to counter bloodseeker!
    i can't handle anymore with this broken hero being picked in EVERY game I play. Thks!

  • @edwinsamuel5065
    @edwinsamuel5065 4 года назад

    Speed I want to counter ogre magi and bb as a postion 4 and 5. I need help.

  • @somethingsomething2541
    @somethingsomething2541 4 года назад

    How to counter phantom lancer... (Excluding earthshaker)

  • @zoom-3694
    @zoom-3694 4 года назад

    May I know that 0:14 match number?

  • @CRAZYBKr
    @CRAZYBKr 4 года назад

    u can counter lycan with witch doctor pretty good hero against him

  • @nobobonobo
    @nobobonobo 4 года назад

    Oracle completely shits on Necro. False promise and fates edict completely prevent Necro from getting kills and purifying flames deals an insane amount of damage if Necro ever tries to use shroud.

  • @bordelorganise
    @bordelorganise 4 года назад

    I think you missed Storm Spirit vs Monkey King. All of his spells counter the MK, like the WR but in easier way.

  • @whatwhatwhatwhat3953
    @whatwhatwhatwhat3953 4 года назад

    Tidehunter vs Lycan is really annoying for Lycan. I think it’s a better Lycan counter than BB just bc it offers lockdown

  • @sheikhyabuti7530
    @sheikhyabuti7530 4 года назад

    the true counter of necrophos is oracle/aa. basically any hero that can purge his ghost form can easily rip him off

  • @MunchinOnDew
    @MunchinOnDew 4 года назад

    Pugna may counter Necro on paper but Necro can also still spank Pugna, especially if Pug ever decreps himself.
    Case in point, I beat a Mid Pugna spammer as mid necro. He won the lane by minute 15 (tough match-up admittedly) but i outpaced him and cleaned him out every 1v1 and team fight after minute 20. If you are comfortable with slowly losing your t1 while getting good farm, then losing the tower first doesn't matter in the end. Necro will outscale pugna.

    • @4119lightning
      @4119lightning 4 года назад

      Literally just happened to me, dominated him completely and just snowballed. 32/2 (I had radiance but our carry had zero farm so we camped them while trying to finish the game)

  • @ashenone3623
    @ashenone3623 4 года назад

    Why oracle doesn't count as a necro hard-counter?

  • @mohsenmohammadi5686
    @mohsenmohammadi5686 3 года назад

    What about viper vs bristle?!

  • @dacieldelrosario7660
    @dacieldelrosario7660 4 года назад

    Isnt bloodseeker a good lycan counterpick?

  • @kivenroysazon5860
    @kivenroysazon5860 4 года назад

    you know what I used silencer a lot and crusader enemy sometimes doesn't know how silencer Q works.. I remember a enemy Godlike streak. WR having aghs.. I did channel my Q on him and he keeps running all the time until I'm surprised ohh shes dead an decided to abandon lol.. 🤣

  • @kimfernandez9644
    @kimfernandez9644 4 года назад

    How to counter blind pickings?

  • @faezfirdaus7746
    @faezfirdaus7746 4 года назад

    Slacks will be mad about that windranger suggestion speeed. be careful. dont say that i didnt warn ya

  • @isaacsiew7620
    @isaacsiew7620 4 года назад

    why isnt shadow demon mentioned against necro.. he purge necro's W away

  • @RealRioV
    @RealRioV 4 года назад

    bruv, what is the main counter of lone druid. That hero is obviously broken

  • @guetalx4075
    @guetalx4075 4 года назад

    Slark and ursa also good vs bristle

  • @ikhwanmahasan2598
    @ikhwanmahasan2598 4 года назад

    another counter pick for bristleback is lion, drain his mana until he turn into a useless punching bag.. it never failed me.

    • @4119lightning
      @4119lightning 4 года назад

      Lions mana drain you usually don't max early and by later stages it has limited impact, if you do max it all bristle has to do is bring mangoes and a magic wand and you wasted instead having a longer stun with more burst. Bristle is tanky so lions ult has limited impact and only triggers more quills.

  • @richy3559
    @richy3559 4 года назад

    Quas Wex Invoker is very good against Necro

  • @edenlz7295
    @edenlz7295 4 года назад +3

    Broken obviously

  • @vincent78433
    @vincent78433 4 года назад

    you know it's not that useful to give low mmr counters for heroes like lycan when as you said yourself lycan already has a pretty low winrate in those brackets, not only that but im pretty sure lycan is barely picked in these brackets, i play at legend 4 and pretty much never see lycan.

  • @bpyatt5654
    @bpyatt5654 4 года назад

    How does viper have such a low win rate he is so strong late and mid game with high attack speed and range, so he can take towers

  • @jestry2508
    @jestry2508 4 года назад +1

    Like where is qop at the counter of mk? It's so hard to play against her in lane , yo ucan't do shit

  • @nooraimanabmalek4381
    @nooraimanabmalek4381 4 года назад

    can zeus counter necro?

  • @illiil9052
    @illiil9052 4 года назад

    attack range aura belongs to vengeful spirit, not luna

  • @davidbarbu6438
    @davidbarbu6438 4 года назад

    Being early is so BROKEN

  • @spaceaids3767
    @spaceaids3767 4 года назад

    Speed I got a guess the rank that will stump you next time you do guess the rank

  • @sheikhyabuti7530
    @sheikhyabuti7530 4 года назад +1

    is it SUPER BROKEN if its easily countered?

  • @styendimpu3446
    @styendimpu3446 4 года назад

    Did anyone else notice DK's portrait

  • @dauzic
    @dauzic 4 года назад

    i dont know anymore, everytime i crush my mid, i always lose to insanely farmed carry player who is not possible in my legend bracket. SEA got so much smurf recently, especially on nighttime

  • @cauezin2555
    @cauezin2555 4 года назад

    Please, a video saying how to counter ursa with sy, it is absolutely...

  • @dm9910
    @dm9910 4 года назад

    OG made mid AA look absolutely awful, topson was basically a support in those 2 games. Seems kinda dumb to recommend it unless you've tested it yourself and had success with it.

  • @tharaneperumalsamy544
    @tharaneperumalsamy544 4 года назад +1

    i can't connect to the game. everything's ok till drafting and it disconnects on the loading screen.
    does anyone have similar issues like this.

  • @moritz0814
    @moritz0814 4 года назад

    Idk why u didnt mention any purge hero to counter necro cause he is basically useless without his W !!!!

  • @dactardre12-dotaofflanepla73
    @dactardre12-dotaofflanepla73 4 года назад

    sven is good vs. lycan. so true

  • @HappySmilingDog-d7u
    @HappySmilingDog-d7u 4 года назад

    Omagad this shit makes my eyes bleed , how the fuck are you not using your third when jumping as enigma , it literally has 0 casttime

  • @makijulio1920
    @makijulio1920 4 года назад

    Batrider can also destroy mk

  • @marandreipascual
    @marandreipascual 4 года назад

    Idk if its just me, but the sound fades out sonetimes

  • @acousticdulatlatlat6464
    @acousticdulatlatlat6464 4 года назад

    How to counter this fucking lone druid. He has 3380 hp without any items at lvl 15

  • @georgii1191
    @georgii1191 4 года назад

    all i can say is one thing BROKEN!!!

  • @MatheusOliveira-oh6wd
    @MatheusOliveira-oh6wd 4 года назад +1

    Man Sorry, but this is not a usefull vídeo, because in this meta you pick with your Lane, soo you cant see the hero First to counter

  • @no1blue1
    @no1blue1 4 года назад

    Yoh! Necro vs Antimage ????

  • @Gear4WarJericho
    @Gear4WarJericho 4 года назад

    How are u going to talk about AA being picked to counter DK when they also have a morphling. The pick isnt good because they have DK, its good because they have DK AND Morph.

  • @synystergates1990
    @synystergates1990 4 года назад

    did i just get the first comment? ")))
    Nice video bro

  • @snap8626
    @snap8626 4 года назад

    great, now do a 'how to overcome 3 south americans on your team"

  • @darkincarnate1994
    @darkincarnate1994 4 года назад

    if these heroes can be countered then they are not "SUPER BROKEN" in the first place

  • @vincent78433
    @vincent78433 4 года назад

    wheres the clinkz counters

  • @exodus664
    @exodus664 3 года назад

    01:30 to skip the BS

  • @abolfazlafshar3349
    @abolfazlafshar3349 4 года назад

    Why not just slark vs dk :(

  • @lurchHa3
    @lurchHa3 4 года назад

    here are 3 counters that all lost...

  • @connorsinclair581
    @connorsinclair581 4 года назад

    Why not Ember Spirit vs Necro?

  • @anthonybc1015
    @anthonybc1015 4 года назад

    dragon knight? no, shungite anyways its a 10000 year old rock put it in the la casa or something and yep that's my story

  • @trapflex7744
    @trapflex7744 4 года назад

    Necronomicon > Necromonicon 😂