This is true but if you plan to tow, it makes more sense getting a bigger truck in my opinion. If you are just pulling a boat every once in awhile and plan to go camping 3X a year, this truck would be adequate!
even with a 3/4 or a 1 ton I would still have a weight distribution hitch the reason being is it ties the load to the truck better and distributes the weight put more of the load on the front wheels of the tow vehicle
I had a 2018 F150 Eco-boost and towed an 8154 lb Cross Roads with NO PROBLEMS using WDH. Towing anything over 5000 without one is inviting trouble while towing. Friend towed a 10000 Outback trailer with a Ram 1500 Hemi, with airbags and WDH for several thousand miles with no issue.
@@53bigmikejones I will be hauling a 1983 Carver Monterey 26 which has a dry weight of 5300 lb and I will be pulling it with a 1982 G25 Vandura GMC done by Skyline a Class B camper van which is rated at 7600 pounds I'm putting one ton suspension under it and my boat trailer has 3 axles I will still be using a weight distribution hitch that is rated to pull with surge brakes
I have a 30' travel trailer with two slides and weighs just over 8000 lbs. When I purchased my 2020 ram 1500 e-torque, I made sure to get the 3.92 rear end, 6.4 bed and I installed Firestone airbags. ( $500 ). Levels perfectly and pulls with ease.
Equalizer weight distribution hitch and your truck needs the 392 rear end. Just like any manufacturer there are options that you need to get those max towing numbers.
Nothing wrong with that truck. I tow 6500lbs on a 1000 miles trip about every month but with the legal requirements ( weight distribution hitch, trailer brake controller) it drives like a dream. With the WDH it only drops one inch and is almost leveled. For a brake controller I use the Bluetooth option that requires no wiring and no setup). 3.92 axle 70mph in 7th gear @ 2250rpm. 9.5mpg
No one would ever admit their truck isn’t enough truck for their trailer. Everyone would tell you “it drives like a dream!” Those people, more often than not, have never driven a 1 ton truck (or even a dually) towing a trailer. It’s like claiming a Toyota Camry drives like a dream when you have never driven a Bentley.
@@mike1567 towed multiple trailers with a 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, and 10 ton trucks. Same trailer loaded the same way, by far 3/4 ton at 8000lbs would be my choice. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/2 ton sure does it pull perfectly fine yes. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/4 ton, no, will it do it yes slowly and without to much issue.
@@mike1567mine can’t tow worth shit 21 ram 1500 v6 😅 rated for almost 7,000lbs and struggles with a small boat , apparently most people don’t tow in New England hills lol
Avid camper here....Get a weight distribution/sway control bar. You'll be amazed at the difference! UPDATE...After watching the entire vid, I realized that you were aware of this fact.
You should always use an equalizer hitch for any trailer over 2000 pound GVWR. I tow a 7000 lb GVWR trailer often with a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 Standard Cab Short Bed using a Equalizer Hitch and have had no problems or failures. It is equipped with a 5.7 liter Hemi, 3.92:1 differential ratios and 5-speed Automatic transmission. A 7000 lb travel trailer has a tongue weight of about 700 lbs.
Adding timbren is way better than air suspension. No maintenance, no more air leakage possibility and it's straightforward easy to install and cost about $225. It does not change your ride comfort it only engaged if there's heavy load, it's the best upgrade I had on my trucks suspension!
What kind of truck? My F150 struggles with my trailer and I’m thinking it’s mainly due to the weight in the back. It’s not leveled properly. I was thinking Firestone Air bag kit unless I saw your post.
I have a 2020 ram 1500 built to serve edition. It came with the 3.92 gear ratio, and a 33 gallon gas tank. I tow a 24ft travel trailer and it does its job. With a wdh. I had my dealer throw in the brake controller to close the deal. Ram 1500 are pre wired for brake controller. Just have to add the switch and module, and program it in.
Re: Trailer brake controller. I bought a brand new 2019 RAM 2500 with Cummins diesel, air suspension, and fifth wheel hitch, in March 2020. It DID NOT come equipped with a trailer brake controller. WTF!!! I asked for one to be installed prior to me picking it up. Nope! Nothing. I called MOPAR Parts in Windsor Ontario. I was told the Dodge Brake Controller is on back order because there are MANY faulty trailer brake controllers installed on trucks that require replacement. MOPAR told me to buy an aftermarket controller. I installed the Tekonsha P3. It is AWESOME! Better than the Dodge controller.
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited with the Ram Air Suspension. With my 4,000lbs trailer hooked up it doesn't squat a mm. The system auto-levels itself. I added a weight distribution setup to help with the handling. Even though it auto levels, without the weight distribution system, it's handling was squishy. After adding the weight distribution system, it handled like a pro.
2010 Ram1500, 5.7 single cab 8 foot bed factory towing package. 7500 lb trailer 500lb bike in the bed ,,I have air bags but it doesn't need it with a WDH..... 18 to 28 liters per 100km Been all over the eastern US and Canada with no problems .Except for the china bomb tires on the RV. Love my Ram
I love the way these truck manufacturers/salespeople lead you to believe that your truck can tow the maximum, I.e. that 12750 lbs. That is for the stripped down 2 wheel drive model. That’s what my Ram 1500 was supposed to tow too. Turns out when you throw in the crew cab and 4x4, mine drops to 9600 lbs towing capacity. Then the trailer sales people stating the dry weight of the trailer and telling you your truck should have no problem based on that max stated capacity.
I have an air suspended 2020 Laramie longhorn E-torque with tow package, trailer brake, 3.92 E-locker and have added long tube headers, pulsar tuner and stiffer tires. Have towed an 8,500 pound trailer without the slightest problems. I don't have tow mirrors and don't need them. I prefer this truck over a 3/4 ton because of the far superior interior and a much better tuned chassis.
A weight distribution hitch would level out that truck, airbags really are not necessary and I would definitely get a weight distribution hitch before I would get airbags. My previous trailer was only 21 feet and 3100 pounds of dry... when I first got that trailer I thought I would be able to get away with not using a weight distribution hitch with my half ton truck, but after a couple times Towing in the wind I realized I needed it for even that small of a trailer.
I also have a trailer brake controller on both of my vehicles. The second rig is a 2006 Dodge Durango AWD/4X4 w/5.7 L Hemi, 3.42 Differentials, 5 speed Automatic, trailer brake controller. I also use the WDH and have had no problems towing the 7000 lb trailer.
I have aftermarket air suspension and a weight distribution hitch and mine is level and will hold cruise at 70 with no problem. I also have a factory trailer brake controller and 3.21 gears. So not the towing gears and still does fine. But its gonna squat...its a half ton, not a 3/4 or 1 ton. And a nissan titan is technically considered a 5/8 ton. Its an in betweener.
When legally towing anything over 5000lbs a weight distributing hitch is required in most states. Air bags may help level but will not properly reload the front axle for proper handling.
I know how Mikey P felt. I went from a 1500 to a 2500 with a 6.4. I got tired of white knuckling my truck when towing my boat on trips. Keep up the good work.
You need to watch video on how to tow with a half ton ,weight distribution bars would change everything. I have a half ton truck n my trailer is 8900lbs tows just fine
What kind of truck are you using? I have a 2019 Tundra and I’m looking at a 32 footer that weighs 8K dry. Wondering if I’m going to have to get a 2500?
@@graysonhicks5568 tundra can’t tow crap. I had one and it was a max tow rating in the 4x4 crew cab of 9100 pounds. Don’t remember payload. So yeah forget that and awful mileage without a trailer.
Just use a weight distribution hitch, it takes the stress off of your rear axle. Using bags applies even more pressure than the tongue weight; bags are for managing cargo capacity.
You need spring weight transfer bars to pur more weight on the fronts. My 2013 F150 towed my 7k lb trailer and only settled 3/4" when the spring-bars were set up. Weights were within 100 lb between front and rear axles. The OEM air suspension will not transfer weight to the front like the bars do. My 2013 Ram 3500 was set up the same way. Even out the front/rear axle weights for hands-free driving.
Towing without weight distribution is a must You will be moving weight to the front wheels with just airbags you’re hiding the squat yet still losing the weight on the front and losing steering abilities
I had a 2019 ram 1500 limited with air suspension and a 5.7 hemi. It leveled the truck well, I still ran a wdh. It didn't pull my 7000 pound camper very well at all. It spent all it's time in 3rd or 4th gear getting 6 mpg or less. I traded it for a 2500 diesel. It has no issues towing my camper. The 1500 was beautiful, and rode nicely but wasn't a very good tow rig even though we were with in its rated towing capacity. 3.92 gears may have helped it but I don't think it would have been enough
3.92s will pull it fine but i don't push it pass 70 mph on the interstate plus activate tow/haul mode and set the cruise and you will notice increase mpgs. My 2012 does exactly that pulls like a champ.
As I've said many times, _"a properly equipped RAM 1500"_ can tow a trailer of that weight. Either the air suspension, or simply upgrade the stock suspension. The latter will change the ride, but if you're towing, you need it. The other question that comes to mind is what options you have on your truck. Weight distribution hitch, trailer brakes are necessary and 3.92 Gear.
@@galexander9857 In my opinion, if a vehicle is towing any sort of considerable weight without trailer brakes, the the tow vehicle isn't properly equipped. It's 2020; and there's really no excuse for not having them. I wouldn't even consider it an _'option'_ anymore. It's mandatory equipment.
The Titan brakes performed extremely well and it goes to show because Nissan doesn’t have an HD line up, they over build their trucks to make up for it. I understand why RAM makes trailer brakes an option and it’s due to people not really towing as much with trucks. I don’t agree with it but I understand. The 1500 would have no problem moving the towing capacity weight set but to anyone that may be between 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, I am suggesting they get a 3/4 ton.
@@JB_WhoWork Most people who buy pickup trucks today, rarely put more than groceries, a hockey tote bag, or something from Ikea in the bed. So, for those people regular brakes are more than enough. It's ready about getting the right tools for the task at hand. Sticking with the tool metaphor, I've allowed family and friends to borrow my power drill, because they all purchased the cheapest drill they could get, thinking that it's all they needed. Their drills just weren't capable of drilling concrete, or driving screws flush I to hardwood. Back to vehicles... one thing that I always do with any vehicle that I own, is to replace the OEM brake pads, rotors and/or drums, after the first set of brakes are worn down, using upgraded parts. I installed cross-drilled and slotted rotors, with ceramic pads. This provides huge improvements in braking performance. Depending on the vehicle, I sometimes replace the brake fluid with a higher spec fluid. That can sometimes means upgrading the brake line assembly, but its worth it, if you live in an area where you apply the brakes frequently.... anywhere with lots of hills, or if you drive in city traffic a lot. The last thing you need is brake fade, due to the fluid boiling over.
@@JB_WhoWork most ram 1500s the trailer brake is optional. I'm one of the lucky ones my 1500 has the full tow package and the 3.92. Ram 2500 and up the brake controller comes standard
Thanks for the review. I’m look in at a ram and eventually getting a camper like that as well, and I am planning on air bags, weight distribution hitch, 3.92 gears.
TBH 2.5 inches squat is pretty standard. Most half tons squat that much if you put a loaf of bread in the back. The progressive spring designs nowadays are such that the nice ride comes in the first few inches of travel. After that the “do work” part of the spring engages. It’s why the rake is so bad in modern trucks - they are expected to squat a good amount to do work.
2.5 is normal for all 1500. 2 makes it level. I pull horses around at 8k, I've hauled a trailer load of wood that was 10k. I did put airbags inside the coils later because I wanted it at 2 instead of 3 at the 10k. The bags were 120 dollars, you drop them inside the coils and run the airline back to the license plate and fill it like you do your tires. Keep 5lbs in the bags running around, when you tow you can put up to 50lbs, don't do that haha. I put 22lbs in pulling around 8klbs. The sag just makes the truck look level. Makes it handle better as well. 10k I put 32lbs in it. Now if you do that, I'd still get a weight distribution hitch for the truck. I have the same 3.92 gears as well. Power is definitely not an issue, even at 10k. I'm getting a bigger horse trailer with living quarters and can haul 4 horses. I'm going to upgrade to a 2500 with the 392.
Equalizer hitch. The E4 is the absolute best bang for your buck and the easiest system out there to use. I'm on my 3 ram 1500 now and I also have a camper. Dry weight on camera is 7800 pounds. It's a Puma polimino 31rdks anniversary edition. It's hot a gross vehicle weight of like 11 thousand pounds and I know I'm right the at it with all the wires shit. But anyways my ram is a crew cab long bed hemi with the 392 rear. I've been all over Maryland and Pa and no problems at all with power or handling. But again bro the equalizer e4 hitch. To me the best in the world. I have the 14k model.
I have the 2020 Laramie and tow a ~5000lb keystone bullet 243bhs - with break controller, 3.92’axle, etorque and air suspension and get no squat at all (although it can do some funny things with raising and lowering itself when hooking up) Etorque makes little to no difference. The blind spot monitoring is clutch. The axle helps with towing capacity but doesn’t make a difference for payload. 2021 they introduced 360 cameras built into the towing mirrors, something I miss in my 2020 Sway control and wdh are essential. I wouldn’t bother testing anything without it.
I have 2015 321 rear hemi pulling 4100lb boat & trailer. Added factory brake controller. Ride rite in coil air bags. And snap on and off tow mirrors. Bags and mirrors less $175 total. Brake controller negotiated in deal. Max tow on 321 8000lbs. So pulling half that in air splitting boat haul is a breeze. And 410lbs tongue wt is level and smooth.
I have the same truck with the eco-diesel engine. Depend on axial gear ratio 7k is the max tow weight for my truck. I do have air bags and the full towing package. I still wouldn’t want to tow 7K. I think the most experts recommend on 80% of you max tow weight.
The reason is control. Bob wins! If you’re using a weight distribution hitch you bought the wrong truck or couldn’t justify going bigger for the minimal number of times per year you tow it. It’s for handling, braking and control purposes that lots of us own 1 or 1.5 ton duallys for farm stuff while Karen and Brad tow a 7,000lb horse trailer with a F150 and wonder why none of us have the same hitch.
I think JB your right about the 3/4 ton trucks. I had a 2017 RAM 1500 and was towing a 6200lb dry weight 26bhs and was near max payload. It pulled it, but the trailer would push it around especially out here the higher elevations. In the end I traded in for a 3/4 ton and huge difference in terms of control. I think if your towing more than 7000lbs 3/4 ton is the way to go.
Thanks for sharing this, I know it’s not what people wanna hear but from my experience even in the past, 1/2 tons are not a great towing experience on long distances even with the necessary equipment. Thanks again 👍🏾
I have a 14 ram 1500 quad cab 2wd and pull my 33ft camper that weighs 8000lbs with no problem and have done it for 5 years now and I also hauled the shingles for my house which was 10000lbs with no issues
My 2019 Ram limited disengages the rear parking sensor automatically. I think thats due to the integrated trailer brake. Anyway, you gotta give the truck a fair chance with a trailer brake and WDH.
The air bags will make your truck to "appear" to be not squatting...but it doesn't change the physics of what's happening to your rear and front axle. Your "steering" wheels are lifting of the ground. Be careful!!
It's going you take a hell of a lot more than 750 pounds to get any lift on those front wheels. I have put pallets in the back of trucks that weigh thousands of pounds and, totally bottoming out the suspension and it doesn't pop a wheelie. They are well with in the trucks payload spec so they are fine.
@@e.f.f.3300 No. Actually, it's quite precise and simple cantilever mathematics. Weight on the pin will cause a upward force on the front end (with the rear axle acting as the center point of upward rotation). Whether or not you can "see a wheelie" is irrelevant. Hundreds of pounds can be relieved from the downward pressure of the front end weight on the front axle which WILL detract from proper steering friction...long before it lifts off the ground. Bottoming out the suspension on purpose is irresponsible. Not to mention, much of your pallet bed weight you just mentioned is IN FRONT of the rear axle...which sends downward force forward. I'm a mechanical engineer. 😘
@@goodoz9942 I know what you're saying, but it's not near enough weight to affect the way the truck handles. It's only 750 pounds, which is pretty standard for trailer tongue weight. And no that pallet weight is behind the rear axle. When you first load the pallet you first have to set it down so you can push it in further. So it sits half way in the bed and half on the door for the tailgate when you first load it. And a lot of the trucks I load are short beds which means there is only about a foot of space in front of the axle which means most of the weight is on and behind the axle.
I just retired and bought my first truck to tow a travel trailer. I bought a 1500 Ram. Now I'm shopping around for a trailer and I realize I should have bought a 2500! 😠
I pulled a 6,700 lb RV bumper-pull trailer with a F150 equipped with trailer brakes..... I upgraded later to a F250 diesel..... makes a big difference. My F250 is made for towing, more so than the F150 that I used to own.
#1 WDH is required. towing without one on a 1500 is stupid. #2 the reason why the rear sensors don't turn off is because no integrated trailer brake controller. The ITBM shuts off the rear sensors when it detects a trailer with trailer brakes is plugged in.
Just got a 2020 2500 ram tradesman in bowie with 4.10 gears with snow package and they told me the trailer brake was on backorder or recall so after I financed they told me to pay 750 for a trailer brake..went to buy a trailer and they said its 250 to install and I legally can't leave with a trailer until I get it installed.
@@JB_WhoWork with this pandemic and all the money floating around the dmv these guys want to get you and the truck off the lot because there's someone else coming in 5 minutes looking for a truck.
I've got a 2018 Ford F-150 with the 5.0L (10-spd Auto), 2063 lb payload, 9100 lb towing capacity. The truck pulls my 6000 lb (empty), 7600 lb GVWR, 31 ft travel trailer very very well. I ordered the trailer and had many months to wait for it to arrive. As I waited for the trailer to be built, I began to second guess myself...was my 1/2 ton truck going to be enough truck?? I was really concerned that I was going to be saying "Hey babe, I'm going to be spending a extra $75,000 on our camping budget....I now need to buy a 3/4 ton truck ($$$) to pull this trailer with"! As I waited for trailer delivery, I did what I could to give my half ton a fighting chance. I installed a Ford OEM brake controller, Ford tow package HD front sway bar, and Ford OEM tow mirrors. I was concerned about stability so I upgraded the rear suspension with a set of Sumo Springs (1500 lb version) and added Bilstein 4600 shocks. Upon pulling the trailer home (900 miles) I was very very happy with the stability and ease that my truck pulled this trailer! No sway, No horrible suck then push from semis. I feel it when semi trucks pass, but it's not bad at all...much less than I was imagining. I'm no longer concerned that I need to drop $75,000 plus on a 3/4 ton. The 5.0L (395 hp, 400 lb-ft) does well. I get 10 to 11 mpg when pulling, 21 mpg when not pulling. I've also got a Borla dual cat back exhaust (S-type). Sounds sooooo good. Not too loud, but definitely elevates that beautiful V8 soundtrack. * I also use an Equilizer hitch (12,000 lb version).
Ironic that you mention, numerous times, that the RAM isn’t built for towing and nothing could be farther from the truth; the setup and proper equipment is key. Towing a 7K Trailer without a trailer brake is not only illegal in most states, it’s very dangerous as the trailer weighs more than the truck. Also, the weight distribution hitch w/sway control is a must (It’s also less expensive (Often less than $500 vs. $1695 for Air Suspension and less potential maintenance)). I can and have pulled a 35’ 10K Trailer with my 21 RAM Bighorn and have had no problems, and that’s with 1K Miles Trips. You brought up great points, but I feel you left key information out.
Guys remember tongue weight is not just the wt but the distance ball to frame is fulcrum effect. Like bike carrier extends my 670lbs bike out to 19in. This plus this pluss the 120lb carrire is like 950lbs plus hanging on my frame. My 1000lbs bags compensates for the squat. But sway /sling is real on the off ramps. Lol. Trailer distro hitches are the truth. They send wt bat to the trailer axels andcto the front axel thru the frames. If i hauled a heavier trailer i would for wt distro hitch with air for snag control
JB I love the videos, you always do a great job. I’d like to see a video with a ram towing a trailer like this that is specced out to tow.....airbags in the coil springs, brake controller and a decent WD hitch and sway control. Towing a travel trailer without a WD hitch is like playing hockey with no skates....not realistic. Hope to see something soon! Keep up the great videos!
Air suspension isn’t always the answer; some people still use a Weight Distribution Hitch with Air Suspensions. There’s also the overall cost, maintenance, and weather related issues. I had a 14 RAM 2500 w/Rear Air Suspension and Auto Level and loved it, but also had to pay for repairs because the system had occasional issues. I now have a 21 RAM 1500 and use a WDH, which when setup correctly, levels my truck and tows great. Both systems have pros and cons, and can often come down to personal preference, so do yourself a favor and do diligent research to make the best decision for you. Best of luck!
@@dantereynolds2160 does the wdh come with a package ram offers or would I have to do an aftermarket install? Im a newbie and need something that can tow 9000lbs (2 big horse trailer) so i need something that can tow about 11000lbs and im considering the ram1500 diesel incl air suspension wdh and towing package. You think that would be enough?
You have 3.21 gears in the rear. If your test truck had 3.92s, it would be a different story. Add in an air suspension, at 7k, there is no need for a weight distribution hitch.
why not use an adjustable tow hitch? allows you to create the best angle for where the load is sitting.. so it does not sag as much where the trailer and truck connect
Definitely need a weight distribution hitch for that size trailer. I have a 2016 ram 1500 with 700 pound hitch weight with distribution and it barely goes down an inch. And putting that much weight behind the bumper without distribution takes too much weight off the front wheels for safe handling. Yeah I'd love to see the EcoDiesel pull that size trailer too
You can easily do 10,000 without a weight distribution hitch. Just stop towing things with small trucks at 99% of their capacity. There’s been a misnomer for years that everything over x weight needs one and a lot of general knowledge lacking on how the system functions. I’ve also heard someone say that it’s required by law over a certain weight.
Well, with a "7000 lb. dry weight" trailer, you were about 2500 lbs overloaded for a 1500 Ram Quad Cab Hemi by the time you put in the spare tire and tire mount, the propane tanks and tank racks and propane, the fresh water tanks and waste water tanks, the entertainment system and TV and antenna, the hot water tank system and any other "accessories" as they aren't included in the "dry weight" of the trailer, and neither is the hitch jack, the leveling jacks or anything not part of the actual TRAILER, and NOTHING in the trailer. Then you need an equalizing hitch, and with the bars, that will add about 125 lbs of dead weight you have to account for. You have too much trailer for the truck, plain and simple. Try a 5200 lb. "dry" "Featherlite" class trailer and a 1500 can tow that, or a 9 meter Airstream or 27' HiLo. The HiLo is porky, but it's low profile isn't bucking the air all the time. Anything over 3000 lbs HAS to have electric trailer brakes. It's the law in most states if you have propane bottles on board or if you're traveling Interstate (DOT regs. "Cross a State line, be ready to pay a big fine."). Been RVing since 1984 with everything from tents and motorcycles and VW CampMobiles to 39' Airstream Excella Motorcoach pulling a car and back to my 16' trailer pulled by a Dodge Dakota (5.2L Magnum) and now a Hemi Ram.
What’s the best truck to tow a 37 footer, I went to RV place just the other day was told my Escalade nor my sons Dodge Ram 1500 which is a 2021 could tow it.
You have the wrong rear end you need the 3.92 and a better hitch, does yours have air bags if not add them because the towing capacity you have is probably about 8,000 and the trailer with everything in it is over your weight limit
So no trailer brake controller, no weight distribution hitch, no anti sway system. And they say it's a little sketchy. Good way of showing how important that is to towing safely. All those things would make a big difference in handing.
I did a video recently with a Nissan Titan the exact same way and it did a lot better. I also used a 3/4 ton and it performed well. The issue is the coiled sprung suspension.
Check the Ram specs before even trying something like this. Of course this would not work. My 2020 Ecodiesel with air suspension, sunroof delete and trailer package with correct gears etc. is rated for 10,000 pounds maximum. That doesn't address PAYLOAD which you have to consider as well. My 7200 lb dry trailer is at the absolute limit and I should have bought a 2500. I think the manu's are very cavalier with their marketing and tout these ridiculous tow ratings. However, solved problem by buying a motorhome. Now the Ram will get towed. :)
Good video brother, however the Titan XD suspension is way more stout than the Ram 1500. For those who question my knowledge watch my videos. I own a 2021 Ram 3500 HO dually (real truck) and a 2020 Titan XD. I tow 12400 with both trucks. I Traded in a 2017 Ram 1500 for the TitanXD. The Ram 1500 suspension is a toy but it is a 1500 noting more.
Good video, especially to show how not to tow. Why would anyone tow or even test this size of trailer without trailer brakes. Completely unsafe and not legal where I am. I get overall this was a test, however results are not accurate without weight distribution hitch for handling. My opinion as well 3/4 ton is better overall.
No half ton will be able to tow a 7k pound travel trailer. Loaded with gear it will be 8500 and air resistance will make the truck struggle. Tow with a 3/4 ton diesel.
Guys, adding air bags will not change your truck's towing capacity one way or another. All they will do is raise the rear end up a little. What ever your truck's max towing capacity is you should stay 2k lbs under it for safe towing. Your trying to pull a 30 foot trailer that weigh's 3k pounds more than your truck weighs. HIGHLY DANGEROUS! Think of a trailer as a rolling "Sail". Do you really want to drive down the road towing a 9k lb sail when your truck weighs 3k lbs less? lol ... Of course you don't. Even if you had trailer brakes working and weight distribution hitch that trailer is simply to big for a 1500 to safely tow. Be safe guys.
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The reason a WDH was not used was because I tested a Nissan Titan/Ford F-250 without it to see how well the trucks handled the weight on their own 👍🏾
Yea but the suspension of a 3/4 ton is way stiffer than a 1/2 ton
This is true but if you plan to tow, it makes more sense getting a bigger truck in my opinion. If you are just pulling a boat every once in awhile and plan to go camping 3X a year, this truck would be adequate!
even with a 3/4 or a 1 ton I would still have a weight distribution hitch the reason being is it ties the load to the truck better and distributes the weight put more of the load on the front wheels of the tow vehicle
I had a 2018 F150 Eco-boost and towed an 8154 lb Cross Roads with NO PROBLEMS using WDH. Towing anything over 5000 without one is inviting trouble while towing. Friend towed a 10000 Outback trailer with a Ram 1500 Hemi, with airbags and WDH for several thousand miles with no issue.
@@53bigmikejones I will be hauling a 1983 Carver Monterey 26 which has a dry weight of 5300 lb and I will be pulling it with a 1982 G25 Vandura GMC done by Skyline a Class B camper van which is rated at 7600 pounds I'm putting one ton suspension under it and my boat trailer has 3 axles I will still be using a weight distribution hitch that is rated to pull with surge brakes
I have a 30' travel trailer with two slides and weighs just over 8000 lbs. When I purchased my 2020 ram 1500 e-torque, I made sure to get the 3.92 rear end, 6.4 bed and I installed Firestone airbags. ( $500 ). Levels perfectly and pulls with ease.
you often pull 8,000 lbs with a 1500? im looking to do the same thing. i have a 20ft enclosed. need to tow an expensive car. thanks
@@Chris-wk7xq if they have the V6, they are overloaded at 8000lbs
@@BoneStack117it’s a 5.7 bruh he just stated fuckin 3.92 years
Eight speed transmission?
Equalizer weight distribution hitch and your truck needs the 392 rear end. Just like any manufacturer there are options that you need to get those max towing numbers.
Nothing wrong with that truck. I tow 6500lbs on a 1000 miles trip about every month but with the legal requirements ( weight distribution hitch, trailer brake controller) it drives like a dream. With the WDH it only drops one inch and is almost leveled. For a brake controller I use the Bluetooth option that requires no wiring and no setup). 3.92 axle 70mph in 7th gear @ 2250rpm. 9.5mpg
No one would ever admit their truck isn’t enough truck for their trailer. Everyone would tell you “it drives like a dream!” Those people, more often than not, have never driven a 1 ton truck (or even a dually) towing a trailer. It’s like claiming a Toyota Camry drives like a dream when you have never driven a Bentley.
@@mike1567 towed multiple trailers with a 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, and 10 ton trucks. Same trailer loaded the same way, by far 3/4 ton at 8000lbs would be my choice. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/2 ton sure does it pull perfectly fine yes. Would I tow 8000lbs with a 1/4 ton, no, will it do it yes slowly and without to much issue.
@@mike1567mine can’t tow worth shit 21 ram 1500 v6 😅 rated for almost 7,000lbs and struggles with a small boat , apparently most people don’t tow in New England hills lol
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Avid camper here....Get a weight distribution/sway control bar. You'll be amazed at the difference! UPDATE...After watching the entire vid, I realized that you were aware of this fact.
Thanks!
You should always use an equalizer hitch for any trailer over 2000 pound GVWR.
I tow a 7000 lb GVWR trailer often with a 2003 Ram 1500 4x4 Standard Cab Short Bed using a Equalizer Hitch and have had no problems or failures.
It is equipped with a 5.7 liter Hemi, 3.92:1 differential ratios and 5-speed Automatic transmission.
A 7000 lb travel trailer has a tongue weight of about 700 lbs.
Adding timbren is way better than air suspension. No maintenance, no more air leakage possibility and it's straightforward easy to install and cost about $225. It does not change your ride comfort it only engaged if there's heavy load, it's the best upgrade I had on my trucks suspension!
What kind of truck? My F150 struggles with my trailer and I’m thinking it’s mainly due to the weight in the back. It’s not leveled properly. I was thinking Firestone Air bag kit unless I saw your post.
A weight distribution hitch would really help you I suggest the Hensley
I have a 2019 Ram Rebel 5.7 Hemi and agree 100%. At a minimum get the trailer brakes. That helps a lot.
Good on you guys for being safe and responsible with the towing.
I have a 2020 ram 1500 built to serve edition. It came with the 3.92 gear ratio, and a 33 gallon gas tank. I tow a 24ft travel trailer and it does its job. With a wdh. I had my dealer throw in the brake controller to close the deal. Ram 1500 are pre wired for brake controller. Just have to add the switch and module, and program it in.
Re: Trailer brake controller. I bought a brand new 2019 RAM 2500 with Cummins diesel, air suspension, and fifth wheel hitch, in March 2020. It DID NOT come equipped with a trailer brake controller. WTF!!! I asked for one to be installed prior to me picking it up. Nope! Nothing. I called MOPAR Parts in Windsor Ontario. I was told the Dodge Brake Controller is on back order because there are MANY faulty trailer brake controllers installed on trucks that require replacement. MOPAR told me to buy an aftermarket controller. I installed the Tekonsha P3. It is AWESOME! Better than the Dodge controller.
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited with the Ram Air Suspension. With my 4,000lbs trailer hooked up it doesn't squat a mm. The system auto-levels itself. I added a weight distribution setup to help with the handling. Even though it auto levels, without the weight distribution system, it's handling was squishy. After adding the weight distribution system, it handled like a pro.
WD hitch and air bags is what I got to tow my 7500 pound camper tows like a dream
2010 Ram1500, 5.7 single cab 8 foot bed factory towing package. 7500 lb trailer 500lb bike in the bed ,,I have air bags but it doesn't need it with a WDH..... 18 to 28 liters per 100km Been all over the eastern US and Canada with no problems .Except for the china bomb tires on the RV. Love my Ram
I love the way these truck manufacturers/salespeople lead you to believe that your truck can tow the maximum, I.e. that 12750 lbs. That is for the stripped down 2 wheel drive model. That’s what my Ram 1500 was supposed to tow too. Turns out when you throw in the crew cab and 4x4, mine drops to 9600 lbs towing capacity. Then the trailer sales people stating the dry weight of the trailer and telling you your truck should have no problem based on that max stated capacity.
I have an air suspended 2020 Laramie longhorn E-torque with tow package, trailer brake, 3.92 E-locker and have added long tube headers, pulsar tuner and stiffer tires. Have towed an 8,500 pound trailer without the slightest problems. I don't have tow mirrors and don't need them. I prefer this truck over a 3/4 ton because of the far superior interior and a much better tuned chassis.
You need Weight distribution system. You can add on. That thing not only distributes weight to all 4 tires, but also prevents swaying when on highway.
That’s an extreme oversimplification of what it does and not all weight distribution systems provide sway control - that’s an add on.
A weight distribution hitch would level out that truck, airbags really are not necessary and I would definitely get a weight distribution hitch before I would get airbags.
My previous trailer was only 21 feet and 3100 pounds of dry... when I first got that trailer I thought I would be able to get away with not using a weight distribution hitch with my half ton truck, but after a couple times Towing in the wind I realized I needed it for even that small of a trailer.
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 which has the tow package. I installed a set the Firestone Air Bag right after I got it and that make a big difference .
I also have a trailer brake controller on both of my vehicles.
The second rig is a 2006 Dodge Durango AWD/4X4 w/5.7 L Hemi, 3.42 Differentials, 5 speed Automatic, trailer brake controller.
I also use the WDH and have had no problems towing the 7000 lb trailer.
I have aftermarket air suspension and a weight distribution hitch and mine is level and will hold cruise at 70 with no problem. I also have a factory trailer brake controller and 3.21 gears. So not the towing gears and still does fine. But its gonna squat...its a half ton, not a 3/4 or 1 ton. And a nissan titan is technically considered a 5/8 ton. Its an in betweener.
When legally towing anything over 5000lbs a weight distributing hitch is required in most states. Air bags may help level but will not properly reload the front axle for proper handling.
I have this same truck with 3:92 rear end. I use a WDH when towing my travel trailer. If I add air suspension will it counteract the WDH?
I know how Mikey P felt. I went from a 1500 to a 2500 with a 6.4. I got tired of white knuckling my truck when towing my boat on trips. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
You need to watch video on how to tow with a half ton ,weight distribution bars would change everything. I have a half ton truck n my trailer is 8900lbs tows just fine
What kind of truck are you using? I have a 2019 Tundra and I’m looking at a 32 footer that weighs 8K dry. Wondering if I’m going to have to get a 2500?
1500 ram eco diesel
@@graysonhicks5568 tundra can’t tow crap. I had one and it was a max tow rating in the 4x4 crew cab of 9100 pounds. Don’t remember payload. So yeah forget that and awful mileage without a trailer.
Just use a weight distribution hitch, it takes the stress off of your rear axle. Using bags applies even more pressure than the tongue weight; bags are for managing cargo capacity.
You need spring weight transfer bars to pur more weight on the fronts. My 2013 F150 towed my 7k lb trailer and only settled 3/4" when the spring-bars were set up. Weights were within 100 lb between front and rear axles. The OEM air suspension will not transfer weight to the front like the bars do. My 2013 Ram 3500 was set up the same way. Even out the front/rear axle weights for hands-free driving.
Towing without weight distribution is a must You will be moving weight to the front wheels with just airbags you’re hiding the squat yet still losing the weight on the front and losing steering abilities
I had a 2019 ram 1500 limited with air suspension and a 5.7 hemi. It leveled the truck well, I still ran a wdh. It didn't pull my 7000 pound camper very well at all. It spent all it's time in 3rd or 4th gear getting 6 mpg or less. I traded it for a 2500 diesel. It has no issues towing my camper. The 1500 was beautiful, and rode nicely but wasn't a very good tow rig even though we were with in its rated towing capacity. 3.92 gears may have helped it but I don't think it would have been enough
Thanks for sharing Jesse, I literally am about to post a video soon on a limited 1500 lol! Be sure to look out for it 👍🏾
3.92s will pull it fine but i don't push it pass 70 mph on the interstate plus activate tow/haul mode and set the cruise and you will notice increase mpgs. My 2012 does exactly that pulls like a champ.
As I've said many times, _"a properly equipped RAM 1500"_ can tow a trailer of that weight. Either the air suspension, or simply upgrade the stock suspension. The latter will change the ride, but if you're towing, you need it.
The other question that comes to mind is what options you have on your truck. Weight distribution hitch, trailer brakes are necessary and 3.92 Gear.
Driving a 7000lb trailer without connecting the trailer brakes is a BAD IDEA, regardless of you doing only 30mph.
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In my opinion, if a vehicle is towing any sort of considerable weight without trailer brakes, the the tow vehicle isn't properly equipped. It's 2020; and there's really no excuse for not having them. I wouldn't even consider it an _'option'_ anymore. It's mandatory equipment.
The Titan brakes performed extremely well and it goes to show because Nissan doesn’t have an HD line up, they over build their trucks to make up for it. I understand why RAM makes trailer brakes an option and it’s due to people not really towing as much with trucks. I don’t agree with it but I understand. The 1500 would have no problem moving the towing capacity weight set but to anyone that may be between 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, I am suggesting they get a 3/4 ton.
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Most people who buy pickup trucks today, rarely put more than groceries, a hockey tote bag, or something from Ikea in the bed. So, for those people regular brakes are more than enough.
It's ready about getting the right tools for the task at hand. Sticking with the tool metaphor, I've allowed family and friends to borrow my power drill, because they all purchased the cheapest drill they could get, thinking that it's all they needed. Their drills just weren't capable of drilling concrete, or driving screws flush I to hardwood.
Back to vehicles... one thing that I always do with any vehicle that I own, is to replace the OEM brake pads, rotors and/or drums, after the first set of brakes are worn down, using upgraded parts. I installed cross-drilled and slotted rotors, with ceramic pads. This provides huge improvements in braking performance. Depending on the vehicle, I sometimes replace the brake fluid with a higher spec fluid. That can sometimes means upgrading the brake line assembly, but its worth it, if you live in an area where you apply the brakes frequently.... anywhere with lots of hills, or if you drive in city traffic a lot. The last thing you need is brake fade, due to the fluid boiling over.
@@JB_WhoWork most ram 1500s the trailer brake is optional. I'm one of the lucky ones my 1500 has the full tow package and the 3.92. Ram 2500 and up the brake controller comes standard
Thanks for the review. I’m look in at a ram and eventually getting a camper like that as well, and I am planning on air bags, weight distribution hitch, 3.92 gears.
TBH 2.5 inches squat is pretty standard. Most half tons squat that much if you put a loaf of bread in the back.
The progressive spring designs nowadays are such that the nice ride comes in the first few inches of travel. After that the “do work” part of the spring engages. It’s why the rake is so bad in modern trucks - they are expected to squat a good amount to do work.
That makes sense and I do agree that modern day trucks seem to squat more compared to pass trucks. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
2.5 is normal for all 1500. 2 makes it level. I pull horses around at 8k, I've hauled a trailer load of wood that was 10k. I did put airbags inside the coils later because I wanted it at 2 instead of 3 at the 10k. The bags were 120 dollars, you drop them inside the coils and run the airline back to the license plate and fill it like you do your tires. Keep 5lbs in the bags running around, when you tow you can put up to 50lbs, don't do that haha. I put 22lbs in pulling around 8klbs. The sag just makes the truck look level. Makes it handle better as well. 10k I put 32lbs in it. Now if you do that, I'd still get a weight distribution hitch for the truck. I have the same 3.92 gears as well. Power is definitely not an issue, even at 10k. I'm getting a bigger horse trailer with living quarters and can haul 4 horses. I'm going to upgrade to a 2500 with the 392.
Good stuff 👍🏾
Equalizer hitch. The E4 is the absolute best bang for your buck and the easiest system out there to use. I'm on my 3 ram 1500 now and I also have a camper. Dry weight on camera is 7800 pounds. It's a Puma polimino 31rdks anniversary edition. It's hot a gross vehicle weight of like 11 thousand pounds and I know I'm right the at it with all the wires shit. But anyways my ram is a crew cab long bed hemi with the 392 rear. I've been all over Maryland and Pa and no problems at all with power or handling. But again bro the equalizer e4 hitch. To me the best in the world. I have the 14k model.
We use a WDH and town our toy hauler which is 11,275 lbs fully loaded and don’t have a problem
With a 1500?
I have a 2020 Ram 1500 off road package and I pull more than that easily .5.7 Hemi and I use anderson weight distribution system .
If you’re testing towing you guys should set it up as you would actually tow with weight distribution and brake controller.
I have the 2020 Laramie and tow a ~5000lb keystone bullet 243bhs - with break controller, 3.92’axle, etorque and air suspension and get no squat at all (although it can do some funny things with raising and lowering itself when hooking up)
Etorque makes little to no difference.
The blind spot monitoring is clutch.
The axle helps with towing capacity but doesn’t make a difference for payload.
2021 they introduced 360 cameras built into the towing mirrors, something I miss in my 2020
Sway control and wdh are essential. I wouldn’t bother testing anything without it.
I have 2015 321 rear hemi pulling 4100lb boat & trailer.
Added factory brake controller.
Ride rite in coil air bags.
And snap on and off tow mirrors. Bags and mirrors less $175 total. Brake controller negotiated in deal. Max tow on 321 8000lbs. So pulling half that in air splitting boat haul is a breeze. And 410lbs tongue wt is level and smooth.
I have the same truck with the eco-diesel engine. Depend on axial gear ratio 7k is the max tow weight for my truck. I do have air bags and the full towing package. I still wouldn’t want to tow 7K. I think the most experts recommend on 80% of you max tow weight.
Thanks for sharing this 👍🏾
The reason is control. Bob wins! If you’re using a weight distribution hitch you bought the wrong truck or couldn’t justify going bigger for the minimal number of times per year you tow it.
It’s for handling, braking and control purposes that lots of us own 1 or 1.5 ton duallys for farm stuff while Karen and Brad tow a 7,000lb horse trailer with a F150 and wonder why none of us have the same hitch.
I think JB your right about the 3/4 ton trucks. I had a 2017 RAM 1500 and was towing a 6200lb dry weight 26bhs and was near max payload. It pulled it, but the trailer would push it around especially out here the higher elevations. In the end I traded in for a 3/4 ton and huge difference in terms of control. I think if your towing more than 7000lbs 3/4 ton is the way to go.
Thanks for sharing this, I know it’s not what people wanna hear but from my experience even in the past, 1/2 tons are not a great towing experience on long distances even with the necessary equipment. Thanks again 👍🏾
3.92s would make a huge difference in towing in low rpms increased mpgs and steep incline pulls
I have a 14 ram 1500 quad cab 2wd and pull my 33ft camper that weighs 8000lbs with no problem and have done it for 5 years now and I also hauled the shingles for my house which was 10000lbs with no issues
So if I buy a 2012 Ram 2500 Outdoorsman crew cab...will I be okay towing a 33 1/2' 2014 Keystone Hideout at 6900lbs?
My 2019 Ram limited disengages the rear parking sensor automatically. I think thats due to the integrated trailer brake. Anyway, you gotta give the truck a fair chance with a trailer brake and WDH.
This ^
Brake controller and WDH. Get the towing package too - transmission cooler, bigger radiator, bigger fuel tank.
Just a FYI with a 1/2 ton Ram truck, if you toe anything over 5,000 lbs it’s the law to use a weight distribution hitch.
The air bags will make your truck to "appear" to be not squatting...but it doesn't change the physics of what's happening to your rear and front axle. Your "steering" wheels are lifting of the ground. Be careful!!
It's going you take a hell of a lot more than 750 pounds to get any lift on those front wheels. I have put pallets in the back of trucks that weigh thousands of pounds and, totally bottoming out the suspension and it doesn't pop a wheelie. They are well with in the trucks payload spec so they are fine.
@@e.f.f.3300 No. Actually, it's quite precise and simple cantilever mathematics. Weight on the pin will cause a upward force on the front end (with the rear axle acting as the center point of upward rotation). Whether or not you can "see a wheelie" is irrelevant. Hundreds of pounds can be relieved from the downward pressure of the front end weight on the front axle which WILL detract from proper steering friction...long before it lifts off the ground.
Bottoming out the suspension on purpose is irresponsible. Not to mention, much of your pallet bed weight you just mentioned is IN FRONT of the rear axle...which sends downward force forward. I'm a mechanical engineer. 😘
@@goodoz9942 I know what you're saying, but it's not near enough weight to affect the way the truck handles. It's only 750 pounds, which is pretty standard for trailer tongue weight.
And no that pallet weight is behind the rear axle. When you first load the pallet you first have to set it down so you can push it in further. So it sits half way in the bed and half on the door for the tailgate when you first load it. And a lot of the trucks I load are short beds which means there is only about a foot of space in front of the axle which means most of the weight is on and behind the axle.
Weight distribution hitch an air bags will make a difference. Your Truck is Capable.
I just retired and bought my first truck to tow a travel trailer. I bought a 1500 Ram. Now I'm shopping around for a trailer and I realize I should have bought a 2500! 😠
Happens to 95% of truck owners including me so you’re not alone 👍🏾
I pulled a 6,700 lb RV bumper-pull trailer with a F150 equipped with trailer brakes..... I upgraded later to a F250 diesel..... makes a big difference. My F250 is made for towing, more so than the F150 that I used to own.
Keith Staudt Sr. Couldn’t agree more, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
As long as everything looks good that's all that matters..forget about safety...lol
As long as everything looks good that's all that matters..forget about safety..lol
I tow 12k with 2013 1500 Ram with air suspension and equalizer hitch with no problem.
Yeah that’s a good idea.....🙄
Not safe
As long as you’re within the limits of your truck you will be fine but a 3/4 ton is definitely in your future 👍🏾
😂😂😂😂yeah ok.
We will send our condolences to your grieving family.
I appreciate the honest review. Thank you.
$500 you can upgrade the Spring coil to help with the Squatting.
Any lift truck shop can help you with that
You’re supposed to use a weight distribution hitch on a 1500. That’s why it sags so much.
100%. WD hitch should push 400lbs or more of TW to the front axle.
Its not only you on the roads. Safety is a concern.
#1 WDH is required. towing without one on a 1500 is stupid. #2 the reason why the rear sensors don't turn off is because no integrated trailer brake controller. The ITBM shuts off the rear sensors when it detects a trailer with trailer brakes is plugged in.
Or add some leaf springs and it should be fine if your on a tight budget
I think that the trailer brake control is becoming a more standard option for the 1500, 2021 year model.
I hope so 👍🏾
Just got a 2020 2500 ram tradesman in bowie with 4.10 gears with snow package and they told me the trailer brake was on backorder or recall so after I financed they told me to pay 750 for a trailer brake..went to buy a trailer and they said its 250 to install and I legally can't leave with a trailer until I get it installed.
the nuclear option 😵😱😨 They can’t take it off another truck to sell?
@@JB_WhoWork with this pandemic and all the money floating around the dmv these guys want to get you and the truck off the lot because there's someone else coming in 5 minutes looking for a truck.
@@thenuclearoption1976 thats strange that it didnt come with an integrated trailer brake. Thats what my 2020 ram rebel 1500 has
Nice job gentlemen very good video and very informative keep up the good work
I've got a 2018 Ford F-150 with the 5.0L (10-spd Auto), 2063 lb payload, 9100 lb towing capacity. The truck pulls my 6000 lb (empty), 7600 lb GVWR, 31 ft travel trailer very very well.
I ordered the trailer and had many months to wait for it to arrive. As I waited for the trailer to be built, I began to second guess myself...was my 1/2 ton truck going to be enough truck?? I was really concerned that I was going to be saying "Hey babe, I'm going to be spending a extra $75,000 on our camping budget....I now need to buy a 3/4 ton truck ($$$) to pull this trailer with"! As I waited for trailer delivery, I did what I could to give my half ton a fighting chance. I installed a Ford OEM brake controller, Ford tow package HD front sway bar, and Ford OEM tow mirrors. I was concerned about stability so I upgraded the rear suspension with a set of Sumo Springs (1500 lb version) and added Bilstein 4600 shocks.
Upon pulling the trailer home (900 miles) I was very very happy with the stability and ease that my truck pulled this trailer! No sway, No horrible suck then push from semis. I feel it when semi trucks pass, but it's not bad at all...much less than I was imagining. I'm no longer concerned that I need to drop $75,000 plus on a 3/4 ton.
The 5.0L (395 hp, 400 lb-ft) does well. I get 10 to 11 mpg when pulling, 21 mpg when not pulling. I've also got a Borla dual cat back exhaust (S-type). Sounds sooooo good. Not too loud, but definitely elevates that beautiful V8 soundtrack.
* I also use an Equilizer hitch (12,000 lb version).
That’s big payload numbers and the added parts make sense to help make towing easier, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Ironic that you mention, numerous times, that the RAM isn’t built for towing and nothing could be farther from the truth; the setup and proper equipment is key. Towing a 7K Trailer without a trailer brake is not only illegal in most states, it’s very dangerous as the trailer weighs more than the truck. Also, the weight distribution hitch w/sway control is a must (It’s also less expensive (Often less than $500 vs. $1695 for Air Suspension and less potential maintenance)). I can and have pulled a 35’ 10K Trailer with my 21 RAM Bighorn and have had no problems, and that’s with 1K Miles Trips. You brought up great points, but I feel you left key information out.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Guys remember tongue weight is not just the wt but the distance ball to frame is fulcrum effect. Like bike carrier extends my 670lbs bike out to 19in. This plus this pluss the 120lb carrire is like 950lbs plus hanging on my frame. My 1000lbs bags compensates for the squat. But sway /sling is real on the off ramps. Lol. Trailer distro hitches are the truth. They send wt bat to the trailer axels andcto the front axel thru the frames. If i hauled a heavier trailer i would for wt distro hitch with air for snag control
JB I love the videos, you always do a great job. I’d like to see a video with a ram towing a trailer like this that is specced out to tow.....airbags in the coil springs, brake controller and a decent WD hitch and sway control.
Towing a travel trailer without a WD hitch is like playing hockey with no skates....not realistic. Hope to see something soon!
Keep up the great videos!
Thanks I will see what I can do 👍🏾
Thanks that was what I needed to know. The air suspension is not easy to come by, but worth the wait.
No problem! I’m hoping to find a used one soon and doing a towing test 👍🏾
Air suspension isn’t always the answer; some people still use a Weight Distribution Hitch with Air Suspensions. There’s also the overall cost, maintenance, and weather related issues. I had a 14 RAM 2500 w/Rear Air Suspension and Auto Level and loved it, but also had to pay for repairs because the system had occasional issues. I now have a 21 RAM 1500 and use a WDH, which when setup correctly, levels my truck and tows great. Both systems have pros and cons, and can often come down to personal preference, so do yourself a favor and do diligent research to make the best decision for you. Best of luck!
@@dantereynolds2160 does the wdh come with a package ram offers or would I have to do an aftermarket install? Im a newbie and need something that can tow 9000lbs (2 big horse trailer) so i need something that can tow about 11000lbs and im considering the ram1500 diesel incl air suspension wdh and towing package. You think that would be enough?
The hitch has to be set up correctly to reduce the 'squat' and a weight distribution system would reduce it even further.
Dessert season in socal you’ll see 1/2 ton trucks pulling toy haulers all day. Wayyyyy overloaded
You have 3.21 gears in the rear. If your test truck had 3.92s, it would be a different story. Add in an air suspension, at 7k, there is no need for a weight distribution hitch.
why not use an adjustable tow hitch? allows you to create the best angle for where the load is sitting.. so it does not sag as much where the trailer and truck connect
Weight distribution hitch will help
Good video, thanks for the info as I am looking to buy a Ram 1500. Do you know how much the gas mileage drop while towing?
Thanks it depends on how much you’re towing, if your climbing grades, and wind. Figure between 6.5-10 MPG
F150 and F250 the best trucks ever, period!
Well...
Forgot locking rear is a must. also 33 gallon fuel tank......
Great video I appreciate your time
Definitely need a weight distribution hitch for that size trailer. I have a 2016 ram 1500 with 700 pound hitch weight with distribution and it barely goes down an inch. And putting that much weight behind the bumper without distribution takes too much weight off the front wheels for safe handling.
Yeah I'd love to see the EcoDiesel pull that size trailer too
He did not use a WDH on this truck to maintain consistency with the Nissan and Ford as he did not use one with those trucks either.
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@@FlawleZ31 got it, I didn't see those other vids 👍
Over 4k pounds you need weight distribution hitch I tow 7k with my RAM I did put airlift on it to take bounce out
Thanks! I tested 2 other trucks without it so wanted to make it fair 👍🏾
You can easily do 10,000 without a weight distribution hitch. Just stop towing things with small trucks at 99% of their capacity.
There’s been a misnomer for years that everything over x weight needs one and a lot of general knowledge lacking on how the system functions. I’ve also heard someone say that it’s required by law over a certain weight.
Weight distribution would take care of that problem.
Well, with a "7000 lb. dry weight" trailer, you were about 2500 lbs overloaded for a 1500 Ram Quad Cab Hemi by the time you put in the spare tire and tire mount, the propane tanks and tank racks and propane, the fresh water tanks and waste water tanks, the entertainment system and TV and antenna, the hot water tank system and any other "accessories" as they aren't included in the "dry weight" of the trailer, and neither is the hitch jack, the leveling jacks or anything not part of the actual TRAILER, and NOTHING in the trailer. Then you need an equalizing hitch, and with the bars, that will add about 125 lbs of dead weight you have to account for. You have too much trailer for the truck, plain and simple. Try a 5200 lb. "dry" "Featherlite" class trailer and a 1500 can tow that, or a 9 meter Airstream or 27' HiLo. The HiLo is porky, but it's low profile isn't bucking the air all the time. Anything over 3000 lbs HAS to have electric trailer brakes. It's the law in most states if you have propane bottles on board or if you're traveling Interstate (DOT regs. "Cross a State line, be ready to pay a big fine."). Been RVing since 1984 with everything from tents and motorcycles and VW CampMobiles to 39' Airstream Excella Motorcoach pulling a car and back to my 16' trailer pulled by a Dodge Dakota (5.2L Magnum) and now a Hemi Ram.
What’s the best truck to tow a 37 footer, I went to RV place just the other day was told my Escalade nor my sons Dodge Ram 1500 which is a 2021 could tow it.
@@antoinettemccarty191 rv dealers are clueless when it comes to proper tow set up. 37 foot trailer needs a heavy duty truck.
You have the wrong rear end you need the 3.92 and a better hitch, does yours have air bags if not add them because the towing capacity you have is probably about 8,000 and the trailer with everything in it is over your weight limit
Thanks, this is a work truck specially for commuting and the trailer is a friends. I personally have a 3500 so I have more than enough truck 👍🏾
Now pull it with a Titan XD DIESEL. It’s a great tow vehicle
They really are!
I put coil over shocks on the rear of mine I tow 7k no problem with v6
What rear axle ratio do you have?
And what kind of mpg you get unloaded with the v6? I’m about to purchase one anyday now
@@MrTacoJay got really good millage till I put 35s and a level kit still get about 19 highway
Towing is impressive for a 300 horsepower v6
Any camper dealer would tell you to use a weight distribution style hitch system when towing that big of a camper with a half ton truck.
Air suspension levels it out, it's no replacement for a WDH
You’re not using a weight distribution hitch. If you did, no problem.
So no trailer brake controller, no weight distribution hitch, no anti sway system. And they say it's a little sketchy. Good way of showing how important that is to towing safely. All those things would make a big difference in handing.
I did a video recently with a Nissan Titan the exact same way and it did a lot better. I also used a 3/4 ton and it performed well. The issue is the coiled sprung suspension.
This looks like a video on how not to tow! LOL but any videos on Rams towing anything is cool 😎
For not much more get a 2500 and tow with confidence!
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Yeah my 2019 Ram squats down quite a bit. You need a weight distribution hitch anyways for a trailer like that.
You are correct 👍🏾
Check the Ram specs before even trying something like this. Of course this would not work. My 2020 Ecodiesel with air suspension, sunroof delete and trailer package with correct gears etc. is rated for 10,000 pounds maximum. That doesn't address PAYLOAD which you have to consider as well. My 7200 lb dry trailer is at the absolute limit and I should have bought a 2500. I think the manu's are very cavalier with their marketing and tout these ridiculous tow ratings. However, solved problem by buying a motorhome. Now the Ram will get towed. :)
I agree with you that 1500 although a great truck 3/4 or on ton would be much better. I would be concerned about going over payload and GVWR.
So even though it has a higher tow capacity then a Power Wagon by a couple thousand pounds....The Power Wagon still tows better?
Yup
James Milam 💯
Thanks for the video! What website were you using to browse for trucks (around minute 12:30)?
Thanks, that was ram trucks.com looking for towing tab at the top 👍🏾
If that truck has a 5.7 Hemi and 3:92 axle ratio, that thing will pull like a tank! If you didn’t get the 5.7 with 3:92s, that failure is on you!
I tow a 32 ft with my 1500 sport and i had to install air bag system between the axle and frame.
I also have a distribution hitch also
Good video brother, however the Titan XD suspension is way more stout than the Ram 1500. For those who question my knowledge watch my videos. I own a 2021 Ram 3500 HO dually (real truck) and a 2020 Titan XD. I tow 12400 with both trucks. I Traded in a 2017 Ram 1500 for the TitanXD. The Ram 1500 suspension is a toy but it is a 1500 noting more.
Good video, especially to show how not to tow. Why would anyone tow or even test this size of trailer without trailer brakes. Completely unsafe and not legal where I am. I get overall this was a test, however results are not accurate without weight distribution hitch for handling. My opinion as well 3/4 ton is better overall.
I agree which is why we stayed on back roads. The good news is I will never do it again lol
Great Video!!
Freaks out over a little squat 😂😂
Timbren bump stops would help
I got the 3.21 gear the motor and trans work fine with it the 3.92 is dealer bs tow more with this gear it will tow just fine with 321
No half ton will be able to tow a 7k pound travel trailer. Loaded with gear it will be 8500 and air resistance will make the truck struggle. Tow with a 3/4 ton diesel.
Guys, adding air bags will not change your truck's towing capacity one way or another. All they will do is raise the rear end up a little. What ever your truck's max towing capacity is you should stay 2k lbs under it for safe towing. Your trying to pull a 30 foot trailer that weigh's 3k pounds more than your truck weighs. HIGHLY DANGEROUS! Think of a trailer as a rolling "Sail". Do you really want to drive down the road towing a 9k lb sail when your truck weighs 3k lbs less? lol ... Of course you don't. Even if you had trailer brakes working and weight distribution hitch that trailer is simply to big for a 1500 to safely tow. Be safe guys.
I agree 100%! I prefer a HD even for smaller TT 👍🏾
I pulled with a 1500 it's fine.