"The greatest weapon in his arsenal....is his own body" You might take it as a sick line, but I think it was literally stated that the Slayer only uses weapons because his fists would literally kill demons too fast
@@ArmoredG yeah, I agree. Spartan rage and all. I was just showing how badass Slayer is for wanting the demons to suffer more via using weapons when he could just one shot most of them bare handed
kratos' way of making enemies suffer is the opposite of doom's. Instead of finishing enemies quickly with his godly weapons, he chose to use his body making enemies suffer. Like punching, kicking and ripping helios' head instead of cutting it, punching zeus til he dies, etc.
Maybe Kratos just loves seeing blood all over his body, while Doom just loves seeing his enemies filled with bullet holes looking like swisscheese. (The Classic Vengeful Kratos not the Calm and Reasonable one.)
"In the first age, in the first battle when the shadows first lengthened, one stood He chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace. And with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains; Seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. And those that tasted the bite of his sword named him The Doom Slayer." Ever since The Doomslayer was submitted to the divinity machine, he became a constant in all timelines. Pretty clear that he has been fighting the demons since the conception of time.
That's true. Because the Doom Slayer fought the Demons in Hell and dimensions for over eons/billions of years ago and has overall experience in his entire life.
@@MrLim-wq2gnwell that’s wrong since in the doom 64 extra lvls the doom slayer is transported to argent d’neur after killing the mother demons sister so at best he spent like a week in there
@@captainb.mccrea5480 it’s literally not bro doom 64 is a cannon game and everything in it is cannon since it’s the game that gave you that idea bro so yeah your wrong
@@KanyeBeCookingTBHwell doom 2016 and eternal are canon as well, and as stated in codex entries, Jakad (hell) is independent of space and time of tbe lower dimensions, and in eternal, when doomslayer was sent to hell after being submitted to the divinity machine, he started where time itself started. Even if he was in hell for a week, which he wasn't even then Jakad has is independent of time of other dimensions. Factually he was there for we don't even know how many years, or if he even left and joined the same universe when hayden found him.
You are one of the fewest youtubers who do a fair scaling on both opposing characters without being toxic and is a power scaler who actually knows how to scale with feats and scaling to back it up.
Absolutely he doesn't do fair scaling he just scaled kratos with less contexts and He once said dc cosmology is only complex multi and when it comes to his favour he uses every wank he can ever get look how he scales goku.Enough said!
Indeed, or how kratos can regenerate health, or how he casually lifted 9 realms at the same time, or how he got stabbed by a sword that kills immortals and survived. Kratos wins
@@Noturmom123 He didn't lift the realms, he lifted the temple it's totally different, if you spin a Portal you won't spin the dimension inside it, it makes no sense
This is genuinely a fair debate and I think it would be a close match! Also prob the best video game protagonists debate ever I think. Nice that you made a video on it!
Not really a fair match. Doom guy scales much higher. He imploded multiple realms such a hell which transcend space and time as well as infinite timelines. His durability is above multiverse. His speed keeps up with opponents who move through time and space. He has acasuality and in a infinite set of timelines can cause the only constant and has reactive evolution. Just keep in mind Davoth the final boss of eternals dlc is said to have created hell with a mere fraction of his power and that is known to be atleast 8d
Just the slayer alone fighting the demons made a multiverse implode so pretty sure would probably be like a snap of fingers when they start showing more and more power
Id like to point out: Freya may have pointed out that the World tree has infinite space etc, but the "tree" in Tyr's Temple is an artistic representation. Freya even says so
Loved the video man! Doomslayer has always been one of my favorites of all time! What's even crazier is the before he was put into the divinity machine, he was fighting demons for eons in their realm while still in the marine core, with just his rage alone.
@@How_To_Play1 No it was before, they found doomguy on the battlefield talking about killing demons in hell years before they ever put him in the machine. He even ranked top soldier in the army of argent d'nur as just a regular dude. He was only put in the machine after the seraphim realized that he could use the doomslayer as basically his own personal soldier. Way after everything in hell
@@bobuxscam2978 no, he didn't fight for eons in hell. he was still a mortal at that time he still had a human life span. he fought for eons in hell when he and the night sentinels were locked in hell when being betrayed at the end of the war
Love your videos Divine! The way you power scale is just amazing! The amount of detail you put into your videos is just God tier. Your work is underrated and you need more subs. Keep up the great work! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This why I like divine he's not like other cringe debaters who would crap on the losing characters he gives respect to each one and makes them badass even when they are losing.😊
@@WackoDan. no, what he is saying is that other debaters would trash talk who loses in the mashup, for example. take this video. Kratos lost, while other debaters would trash talk on Kratos saying something like "Kratos does not have invulnerable skin and guns compared to the Slayer" that is shit talking the loser of the fight. instead, he still gave them the proper respect they deserved even though he lost this fight
I'd like to point out that GOW4 has confirmed that the entire GOWverse actually resides solely on Earth and that all feats are limited to only their Mythologies which indicates that Yggdrasil is only infinite in reference to it's own mytgology as it doesn't span across the whole planet into different mythologies, which isn't the best look for GoW. The size of the planet of GoW isn't unknown in size or infinite because it's literally stated to be Earth, the actual Mount Olympus of GoW lore is a real location in Greece. Santa Monica Studios said they followed the British observation of Mythology for their games. British observed mythology follows the idea that all Mythology coexisted on Earth and existed in different parts of the World. Greece = Greek mythology Scandinavia = Norse mythology which is why it's way bigger in size Egypt = Egyptian Mythology which is why Egyptian Mythology is mainly a desert land. Greek mythology fits the In real life description of Greece Same with norse mythology Same with egyptian mythology Same with Celtic mythology where mimir comes from. Universe in reference to GoW and Mythology is a known hyperbole commonly used to describe their own Mythology. Same way Dimension has a broad meaning, Universe had a broad meaning except not really because it literally just means Mythology. Cory said the galaxies represented different Mythologys, which would imply that yet again, the GOWverse doesn't exist on different universes but rather inside 1 universe. Yet Cory Barlog also states that geographically, all Mythologys exist on the same plane. Again proof of all the Mythologys only existing on Earth is the simple fact that they mentioned that Kratos simply sailed Nortth to Scandinavia to reach Midgard, which is Norse Mythology. It's either one or the other and Santa Monica studios can't even refify. Heavy evidence supports it all exists on Earth, but then they come out and say that it's "like" keywords "like" the galaxies represent different mythologys. Cory also said that "in his mind" it's like having the Hubble Telescope. I say what I say because it has the most amount of completely outstanding evidence to say it takes place all on Earth. Universe is another word for Mythology even by the definition of the word. For them to create entire universes contradicts the proof I will provide that proves GoW only resides on Earth. If you agree that universes in Mythology is just another word for different MYthologys, then that's fine and in agreement of the universe (mythology) being separated by water. Cory uses words like: "like, in my mind, I think, to my knowledge" a lot, which are not concrete statements. Galaxies are clearly aren't universes. You referring to small infinites is literally you proving my point. I understand what you meant but let me explain. You mentioed that there can be an infinite amount of numbers in 1 but it's still smaller than 2. My point is that these spaces of infinity are only infinite in reference to their own Mythology, which is why it doesn't span across other Mythologys. If an infinite space is still smaller than the world and is only limited to its own mythology, then that implies there can be an infinite space of something that can still be smaller. I do believe that there are different DIMENSIONS that reside in different planes which is the whole point of dimensions, like the underworld in greek mythology. I don't think the underworld resides on Earth neither do I think any of the primordial's dimensions exist on Earth. I know they have their own separate realities but none of those realities are bigger than Greek Mythology which is the side of Greece. Same with the 9 realms of Norse Mythology, all of those different realms cannot be bigger in side than Scandinavia. This is the evidence that supports and contradicts the devs statement on the side of GoW The wiki of GoW along with cory's stated this: (This is in reference to GOW4 proving it takes place in scandinavia norway also providing the greek mythology exists in the same place) Wiki of GoW "Predating the vikings, most of the game takes place in ancient scandinavia in the realm of Midgard, which is inhabited by humans and other creatures. It is the same realm in which the Greek world existed." Not how it says the same realm referring to the dimensional plane proving they both exist on the same land. (Earth being mentioned as the location of GoW) Wiki of Gow "However, while homer and his contemporaries believed the sky formed a solid, vaulted dome ("firmament") over the disc-shaped Earth, God of War clearly holds the heavens\universe outside of the Earth to be normal." This is the same piece of firmament Atlas was stated to holdabove Earth. It proves that while different dimensions exist outside of Earth (Again mentions Greece which is the country on Earth, again proving the game takes place in the same place) Wiki of GoW + Cory "After thee games of hunting down the gods of Greece, Kratos was due for change of scenery. After the events of GoW3, creative director of the franchise, Cory Barlog, confirmed that kratos had moved to midgard." (Proof of Kratos sailing to reach Scandinavia) Wiki of GoW "Kratos traveled by boat until the flood started to disperse, (refereing to the flood caused by death of Poseidon) deciding after weeks of sailing to settle down in Midgard. This is where he meets his now deceased wife Faye and fosters a son named Atreus. The game provides many references to other cultures and mythologies, making it seem like the flood physically connected them even further." The weeks of sailing accurately proves the actual size of Earth. Sailing by any boat made in those times would take weeks. Cory Barlog or at least one of the devs also stated that quote "kratos traveled up North until he reached land" Traveling North would seem impossible seeing as how North of Greece is land with only small passages throug but then you REMEMBER that Posiden caused the entirety of Greece and its surroundings areas to flood which is WHY it states "Kratos traveled by boat until the flood dispersed" implying the flood covered the oceans The thing with Kratos is, GOW 1-2-3, betrayal, ascension, chains of olympus were all created by a different director, all of them have different thought proccess when it comes to future plot, which ended up contradicting one another, like with something being "Infinite", when in reality it is only "infinite" to one's realm, it is not true infinity as I already explained in the comment at the top. Cory (game director for GOW 2) had in mind that for GOW 3 they would have Kratos defeat Zeus and all the other Greek Gods at the start of GOW 3, then all the Gods from other pantheons (Japanese, Egyptian, Scandinavian etc) would come in to take over, then have them die to Kratos in a massive fight, that alone would EASILY place Kratos above any version of Kratos by a long shot. And due to all those different directors, there's an unlimited amount of Lore contradictions with no further explanations, one Developer on Twitter (X) is contradicting another developer on X, it's a clown fiesta. Kratos is hard and almost impossible to scale unless you cherry-pick statements and feats, but to each otheir own. And the thing with Kratos and his magic, which is 90% of his arsenal, he can't use it unless he's in his realm, had Kratos and Doom fought on a neutral ground, Kratos wouldn't even be able to use most of his arsenal, as the magic is tightly connected to it's originating realm, as is stated by Kratos in GOW 4 ragnarok and Freya said that the magic is bound to it's land, so the magic went with it. And if it were Kratos from GOW4> whom were to fight, as it was already established, he holds back by a LOT, he Thor literally killed him and stopped his heart, only for the later to rejuvenate him with his electricity. Doom slayer doesn't hold back, he's always at his strongest, if he goes for the kill, which he will. Kratos is a dead man, unless you wanna give him ALL his magic (which should not work) and make him fight at 110% (which he won't and is out-of-character), then sure, Kratos probably could pull out a win due to all those hax he's got. Doom slayer's feats and portrayal is much more concrete, it's a cherry pick battle for Kratos, though. People choose what to believe and what not to, although both of these could be true, depending on what game you would be concentrating, as one contradicts another.
wow thats a good comment. Thats why i dont like kratos feats. There is a video on yt that is just as your comment. Tbh i even think when kratos has all his powers he clapped.
@@tobi6168 All of these coupled with the fact that santa monica openly follows British observed Mythology to make GOW games and funnily enough British observed Mythology follows the belief that all mythologys existed only on Earth which is even a direct contradiction to even the mention of dimensions, lol. My point being this... 1. The Main location for the GOWverse is Earth 2. The infinite dimensions\ygdrassil that reside in the mythologys are only infinite in regards to their own Mythologys which means they are smaller than the Wworld but Infinite to its own Mythology, which is great reason as to why Yggdrasil doesn't span across the entire world but instead across Scandinavia and it's other realms. 3. GoW by definition isn't truly infinite. Even Mount Olympus in real life is the same one used in the game and the lore. 4. The Earth with the explanation I've provided is the largest thing in GOW. 5. All infinite dimensions created by primordials are only infinite in regards to its own mythology, in comparison to Earth, these infinite spaces are only as big as its mythology, to say otherwise is to imply the Greek Primordials has the power to create dimensions that span across and include different dimensions which would contradict the fact that primordials and Gods don't hold any extra knowledge on different mythologys. These are the points im making, to make it even clearer, I'm saying that earth aside from the firmament which is a close second is the biggest location in GOW. What I meant about primordials and Gods, while Knowing that other mythologys exist, have no knowledge on how big they are, their history, most of their Gods except the main one, their terrain, buildings or their practices. To imply they knew it all would contradict Mimirs statement of him being smarter and more knowledgeable than primordials. My point is, if they don't even know the land of other mythologys, and their gods, they can't create a mirror image of them and since I've already proved that GoW exists on Earth, the only thing Nyx could replicate was her own universe aka greek mythology. Nyx yet again also was stated to have created a mirror image of the Universe and as we've establisted Universe = their own mythology So there's even more misconceptions when it comes to Universes, pocket galaxies, dimensions, infinities and all that sort
@@Billy_Herrington1969 The yggdrasil isnt infinite in size. The only mention close to this is in the novel, but it says that the tree APPEARS to stretch to infinity. Not that it stretches to infinity, and it doesnt reach infinity. The most damning part is when ratatoskr states that the tree's branches break under their own weight and fall when they grow too large and get too heavy.
I just love how a series of dimensions is all it takes for doom slayer to win this fight like i actually thought this was gonna be a close fight until he mentioned doom slayer being 6th dimensional
The Doom Slayer has been fighting innumerable experience of killing demons for eons ad has been fighting since the first age since the first battle in Hell a realm that is unlimited by time-space and dimensions which transcend Urdak which has the higher dimensional than the standard universe and is labeled as the 6th Dimensional by the UAC making Hell a 7th Dimensional this means hundreds. thousands and Hell even Billions of years wouldn't even describe the amount of time that the Doom Slayer has been fighting for.
@@MrLim-wq2gn another explanation of hell being 7 dimensional is as it was not known to the makyrs, the residents of urdak and also omniscient beings. Which means hell is above urdak. And crazy part is hell is just an extent of davoth's power. His anger alone changed jekkad into hell.
Now this one's truly wildness of interesting Kratos the god killer who killed Titans and Giants Doom Slayer himself who killed giant monster demon god Titans I don't even know how to scare them but amazing video Divine you truly be cooking these videos 🔥🔥
yes sure but if we are using that logic the maykrs were the equivalent to gods like hades right. He killed the god of maykrs then the god that created the maykrs then the god that created that god. the maykrs were also multi dimensional each one controlled their own "realm" so to speak. if that helps you understand.
The real deciding factor of this matchup seems to be the reason that’s fueling each of them going into the fight. Whoever has the stronger motivation driving them will overcome whatever they need to. They both have shown their will is undeniable and they can bring any form of deity to its knees. Kratos having a current one dimensional gap in power could easily be overcame if he was running on something powerful enough to motivate him. The conclusion you came to seems plausible but good luck keeping kratos out of hell
I have an issue with the "6 Dimensional" argument. This comes from Urdak being referred to in a computer as the "6th Dimension". The problem is that there's not enough context to prove that "Dimension" in this case is being used to refer to higher geometric dimensions. Earth is referred to as the "7th Dimension", even though it should be a lesser dimension to Urdak. It's far more likely the term "Dimension" is being used here in it's common fictional term as a synonym for a different universe or as a nomenclature (ex. Marvel's Earth-616 or DC's Earth-0).
Doomslayer holds back way more than kratos, we've seen kratos struggle and even die before but the Doomslayer has never once broken a sweat, while having more impressive feats than kratos
Pls without the Blade of Olympus he could've never killed Zeus in fact take away the Blades of Chaos from the beginning I guarantee HE WOULD'VE LOST meanwhile Doom slayer could've gone from not using any guns up to Davoth not only he would've still won he even would've an EASIER TIME
Am I the only one who was reminded of the GT v Super Goku video, when Bro said the “One climbing to heaven to fight the gods and one falling to hell to kill the devil” line? Namely it was the “Man with the power of an Angel, or the Child with the power of a Demon” line that this video reminded me of.
One kills gods the other one pretty much kills the thing that creates gods. Maykrs were pretty much gods in their own, he killed them like nothing then kill their creator, then killed that god, then killed the thing that made the things that made gods. theres about 2 or 3 layers that kratos is behind on. Hes strong. But there is a difference
"the man wo became a god vs the man who became something worse" that was such a metal line
thats cool but superman solos
@@Goatama1I mean that's true but why are we even bringing him up?
@@Arrowokeys12 youre right Superman is overkill i think Saitama vs Kratos and Doomslayer is a better fight
@@Goatama1schlawg said saitama 💀
@@Goatama1Saitama has no universal feats even he is getting one tapped
"The Man who climbed to heaven to kill the god VS The Man who dropped to Hell to kill the Devil" The most coolest line I have ever heard
Accurate line. Kratos climbs Mount Olympus, Atreus climbs The Walls of Asgard. What happens shortly after? The gods are dead. Like father like son
time stamp.
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@@Drakevid lol wdym lil bro 💀
"The greatest weapon in his arsenal....is his own body"
You might take it as a sick line, but I think it was literally stated that the Slayer only uses weapons because his fists would literally kill demons too fast
Both of them have their own body as their greatest weapon.
@@ArmoredG yeah, I agree. Spartan rage and all. I was just showing how badass Slayer is for wanting the demons to suffer more via using weapons when he could just one shot most of them bare handed
kratos' way of making enemies suffer is the opposite of doom's. Instead of finishing enemies quickly with his godly weapons, he chose to use his body making enemies suffer. Like punching, kicking and ripping helios' head instead of cutting it, punching zeus til he dies, etc.
Maybe Kratos just loves seeing blood all over his body, while Doom just loves seeing his enemies filled with bullet holes looking like swisscheese. (The Classic Vengeful Kratos not the Calm and Reasonable one.)
Yeah apparently he uses guns for fun 😂
"In the first age, in the first battle
when the shadows first lengthened, one stood
He chose the path of perpetual torment.
In his ravenous hatred he found no peace.
And with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains;
Seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him.
And those that tasted the bite of his sword named him
The Doom Slayer."
Ever since The Doomslayer was submitted to the divinity machine, he became a constant in all timelines. Pretty clear that he has been fighting the demons since the conception of time.
That's true. Because the Doom Slayer fought the Demons in Hell and dimensions for over eons/billions of years ago and has overall experience in his entire life.
@@MrLim-wq2gnwell that’s wrong since in the doom 64 extra lvls the doom slayer is transported to argent d’neur after killing the mother demons sister so at best he spent like a week in there
@@KanyeBeCookingTBHwell that’s wrong lol
@@captainb.mccrea5480 it’s literally not bro doom 64 is a cannon game and everything in it is cannon since it’s the game that gave you that idea bro so yeah your wrong
@@KanyeBeCookingTBHwell doom 2016 and eternal are canon as well, and as stated in codex entries, Jakad (hell) is independent of space and time of tbe lower dimensions, and in eternal, when doomslayer was sent to hell after being submitted to the divinity machine, he started where time itself started.
Even if he was in hell for a week, which he wasn't even then Jakad has is independent of time of other dimensions.
Factually he was there for we don't even know how many years, or if he even left and joined the same universe when hayden found him.
The Killer of The Gods vs the Slayer of Demons.
This is gonna be good.
God Killer sounded Greater than Demon Slayer imo
@@ArmoredGdemon slayer… LMFAOOO
@@ArmoredG the doom slayer killed Gods tho
They are both God Slayers technically
God killer vs Demon God killer
"Gods don't look down from above, they look up from hell..."
Coldest line of 2024
They look from hell because crash and dead already💀🤡
@@Ashura9131 🙄
@@PrimordialChaos1 kratos take blade of olimpus and doom slayer dead why he not mention blade olimpus dissable enemy immortality🤡
@@Ashura9131 learn to spell first
Homie. The Slayer cant be killed at all. Its stated that if he were to be killed he can just will himself back into existence. @@Ashura9131
You are one of the fewest youtubers who do a fair scaling on both opposing characters without being toxic and is a power scaler who actually knows how to scale with feats and scaling to back it up.
with some cold lines
Absolutely he doesn't do fair scaling he just scaled kratos with less contexts and He once said dc cosmology is only complex multi and when it comes to his favour he uses every wank he can ever get look how he scales goku.Enough said!
@@Nethmina.149 That was in the past, growth happens to all people and I think this is a fair estimate, not wank or higher ends.
@@Chillersnowman sure
He just said doom would kill The God Of War ☠️
Any one else wonder who’s the strongest devil hunter, Dante or Doom slayer
dante obviously
Dante because he scales to 9th dimensional+
dante would so easily slam it's funny to call it a fight
what about Black frieza vs Dante who is stronger? i never played DMC
@@Lukewarm618that was debunked
2:59 *"Pause."*
Man I'm dead.💀
y’all not gunna catch me slippin like that 😭
@@officialdivine..even the music stopped 😂
@@officialdivine.. Nah it's ok bro. We all make mistakes.👍
@@Keamokoapenah cus i gotta stop everything after that 😭
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I'm a little surprised you didn't mention Kratos' latest feat, breaking into Valhalla using only his physical strength
he got fucked up as soon as he entered it
@@yoda3498no… you did.. if you kill all the enemies without dying in the beginning.. u win 🙂👍🏻
@@ajaywalia_11 But isn't canon
Indeed, or how kratos can regenerate health, or how he casually lifted 9 realms at the same time, or how he got stabbed by a sword that kills immortals and survived. Kratos wins
@@Noturmom123 He didn't lift the realms, he lifted the temple it's totally different, if you spin a Portal you won't spin the dimension inside it, it makes no sense
This is genuinely a fair debate and I think it would be a close match! Also prob the best video game protagonists debate ever I think. Nice that you made a video on it!
Arthur morgan> imo. Story wise anyway
Not really a fair match. Doom guy scales much higher. He imploded multiple realms such a hell which transcend space and time as well as infinite timelines. His durability is above multiverse. His speed keeps up with opponents who move through time and space. He has acasuality and in a infinite set of timelines can cause the only constant and has reactive evolution. Just keep in mind Davoth the final boss of eternals dlc is said to have created hell with a mere fraction of his power and that is known to be atleast 8d
Gods don't look down from above, they look up from Hell
Badass line and Fire videos 😎🔥
Bros lines are colder than a freezer 🥶
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It seems that he wields the power of Helheim :P
Let's be realistic if this fight happen Everything is being destroyed
no doubt 😭
Yup lol
absolutely 😅
Just the slayer alone fighting the demons made a multiverse implode so pretty sure would probably be like a snap of fingers when they start showing more and more power
But only 1 comes on top witch is actually kratos
the final quote of the video, always hits the hardest 🗿🗿
Id like to point out: Freya may have pointed out that the World tree has infinite space etc, but the "tree" in Tyr's Temple is an artistic representation. Freya even says so
Kratos is literally covered with the sins of his past, and doomslayer eats sin for breakfast
Nah, he slay sins and the sinners itself for sports
Without even trying
Damn right
I’m a simple man… I see peak content, I click.
FAX
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Smart man
A man of culture, I see.
Guy who killed his own family vs dude whose bunny died.
🤣🤣🤣
The Doomslayers family was killed as well
Loved the video man! Doomslayer has always been one of my favorites of all time! What's even crazier is the before he was put into the divinity machine, he was fighting demons for eons in their realm while still in the marine core, with just his rage alone.
No, that was after he got his powers
@@How_To_Play1 No it was before, they found doomguy on the battlefield talking about killing demons in hell years before they ever put him in the machine. He even ranked top soldier in the army of argent d'nur as just a regular dude. He was only put in the machine after the seraphim realized that he could use the doomslayer as basically his own personal soldier. Way after everything in hell
@@bobuxscam2978 no, he didn't fight for eons in hell. he was still a mortal at that time he still had a human life span.
he fought for eons in hell when he and the night sentinels were locked in hell when being betrayed at the end of the war
*"because gods don't look down from above. they look up...from hell"*
one of the most heaviest metal quotes i ever heard
Love your videos Divine! The way you power scale is just amazing! The amount of detail you put into your videos is just God tier. Your work is underrated and you need more subs. Keep up the great work! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sometimes his videos are incorrect but he is definitely the best on the platform and he has a good voice for this aswell
"he was able to resist getting his soul snatched" i just learned that's sexual 😅😅😅
the man who emptied the halls Olympus vs the man who left all of hell empty definitely one of the best videos ive seen in awhile
Not just the halls of olympus. Olympus itself was destroyed. Gaia fell on it + Zeus exploded
@@ArmoredG well debatably you could say gaia destroyed it so i just wanted to simplify it
@@xyz_egg kratos made gaia fall by killing her??
@@iisk3ldo true but “the man who destroyed Olympus vs the man who left hell empty” isn’t as catchy
@@xyz_eggyou could say “the man who killed all of hell”
This why I like divine he's not like other cringe debaters who would crap on the losing characters he gives respect to each one and makes them badass even when they are losing.😊
Who's losing? Definitely not kratos
@@WackoDan. That's not what I said 😐
@@therider2050 that's is exactly what you're saying
@@WackoDan. no, what he is saying is that other debaters would trash talk who loses in the mashup, for example. take this video. Kratos lost, while other debaters would trash talk on Kratos saying something like
"Kratos does not have invulnerable skin and guns compared to the Slayer"
that is shit talking the loser of the fight. instead, he still gave them the proper respect they deserved even though he lost this fight
The man above heaven vs the man below hell, the god slayer vs the devil hunter, kratos vs doom slayer
"Comparing Kratos and his power of hope, he has no hope of winning" BARS
Or should I say... "Bar none" :P
We need more of your godly edits on other characters than dragon ball, the other characters need your respect with this 🔥
Didnt expect to see arrow keys here lol
@@peeginstinct Oh hello! Yeah I hang around in couple random places lol
Love the storytelling in your videos. Altos love to see you collab with death battle
Don't let him collab with the not credible death battle.
@@Chillersnowman lol not credible?
Every Line This Man Says With The Music Cut Off It Gives Me Chills
I'd like to point out that GOW4 has confirmed that the entire GOWverse actually resides solely on Earth and that all feats are limited to only their Mythologies which indicates that Yggdrasil is only infinite in reference to it's own mytgology as it doesn't span across the whole planet into different mythologies, which isn't the best look for GoW.
The size of the planet of GoW isn't unknown in size or infinite because it's literally stated to be Earth, the actual Mount Olympus of GoW lore is a real location in Greece. Santa Monica Studios said they followed the British observation of Mythology for their games. British observed mythology follows the idea that all Mythology coexisted on Earth and existed in different parts of the World.
Greece = Greek mythology
Scandinavia = Norse mythology which is why it's way bigger in size
Egypt = Egyptian Mythology which is why Egyptian Mythology is mainly a desert land.
Greek mythology fits the In real life description of Greece
Same with norse mythology
Same with egyptian mythology
Same with Celtic mythology where mimir comes from.
Universe in reference to GoW and Mythology is a known hyperbole commonly used to describe their own Mythology. Same way Dimension has a broad meaning, Universe had a broad meaning except not really because it literally just means Mythology.
Cory said the galaxies represented different Mythologys, which would imply that yet again, the GOWverse doesn't exist on different universes but rather inside 1 universe. Yet Cory Barlog also states that geographically, all Mythologys exist on the same plane. Again proof of all the Mythologys only existing on Earth is the simple fact that they mentioned that Kratos simply sailed Nortth to Scandinavia to reach Midgard, which is Norse Mythology. It's either one or the other and Santa Monica studios can't even refify. Heavy evidence supports it all exists on Earth, but then they come out and say that it's "like" keywords "like" the galaxies represent different mythologys. Cory also said that "in his mind" it's like having the Hubble Telescope. I say what I say because it has the most amount of completely outstanding evidence to say it takes place all on Earth.
Universe is another word for Mythology even by the definition of the word. For them to create entire universes contradicts the proof I will provide that proves GoW only resides on Earth. If you agree that universes in Mythology is just another word for different MYthologys, then that's fine and in agreement of the universe (mythology) being separated by water.
Cory uses words like: "like, in my mind, I think, to my knowledge" a lot, which are not concrete statements.
Galaxies are clearly aren't universes. You referring to small infinites is literally you proving my point. I understand what you meant but let me explain.
You mentioed that there can be an infinite amount of numbers in 1 but it's still smaller than 2. My point is that these spaces of infinity are only infinite in reference to their own Mythology, which is why it doesn't span across other Mythologys. If an infinite space is still smaller than the world and is only limited to its own mythology, then that implies there can be an infinite space of something that can still be smaller.
I do believe that there are different DIMENSIONS that reside in different planes which is the whole point of dimensions, like the underworld in greek mythology. I don't think the underworld resides on Earth neither do I think any of the primordial's dimensions exist on Earth. I know they have their own separate realities but none of those realities are bigger than Greek Mythology which is the side of Greece. Same with the 9 realms of Norse Mythology, all of those different realms cannot be bigger in side than Scandinavia.
This is the evidence that supports and contradicts the devs statement on the side of GoW
The wiki of GoW along with cory's stated this:
(This is in reference to GOW4 proving it takes place in scandinavia norway also providing the greek mythology exists in the same place)
Wiki of GoW
"Predating the vikings, most of the game takes place in ancient scandinavia in the realm of Midgard, which is inhabited by humans and other creatures. It is the same realm in which the Greek world existed."
Not how it says the same realm referring to the dimensional plane proving they both exist on the same land.
(Earth being mentioned as the location of GoW)
Wiki of Gow
"However, while homer and his contemporaries believed the sky formed a solid, vaulted dome ("firmament") over the disc-shaped Earth, God of War clearly holds the heavens\universe outside of the Earth to be normal."
This is the same piece of firmament Atlas was stated to holdabove Earth. It proves that while different dimensions exist outside of Earth
(Again mentions Greece which is the country on Earth, again proving the game takes place in the same place)
Wiki of GoW + Cory
"After thee games of hunting down the gods of Greece, Kratos was due for change of scenery. After the events of GoW3, creative director of the franchise, Cory Barlog, confirmed that kratos had moved to midgard."
(Proof of Kratos sailing to reach Scandinavia)
Wiki of GoW
"Kratos traveled by boat until the flood started to disperse, (refereing to the flood caused by death of Poseidon)
deciding after weeks of sailing to settle down in Midgard. This is where he meets his now deceased wife Faye and fosters a son named Atreus. The game provides many references to other cultures and mythologies, making it seem like the flood physically connected them even further."
The weeks of sailing accurately proves the actual size of Earth. Sailing by any boat made in those times would take weeks.
Cory Barlog or at least one of the devs also stated that quote "kratos traveled up North until he reached land"
Traveling North would seem impossible seeing as how North of Greece is land with only small passages throug but then you REMEMBER that Posiden caused the entirety of Greece and its surroundings areas to flood which is WHY it states "Kratos traveled by boat until the flood dispersed" implying the flood covered the oceans
The thing with Kratos is, GOW 1-2-3, betrayal, ascension, chains of olympus were all created by a different director, all of them have different thought proccess when it comes to future plot, which ended up contradicting one another, like with something being "Infinite", when in reality it is only "infinite" to one's realm, it is not true infinity as I already explained in the comment at the top.
Cory (game director for GOW 2) had in mind that for GOW 3 they would have Kratos defeat Zeus and all the other Greek Gods at the start of GOW 3, then all the Gods from other pantheons (Japanese, Egyptian, Scandinavian etc) would come in to take over, then have them die to Kratos in a massive fight, that alone would EASILY place Kratos above any version of Kratos by a long shot. And due to all those different directors, there's an unlimited amount of Lore contradictions with no further explanations, one Developer on Twitter (X) is contradicting another developer on X, it's a clown fiesta. Kratos is hard and almost impossible to scale unless you cherry-pick statements and feats, but to each otheir own.
And the thing with Kratos and his magic, which is 90% of his arsenal, he can't use it unless he's in his realm, had Kratos and Doom fought on a neutral ground, Kratos wouldn't even be able to use most of his arsenal, as the magic is tightly connected to it's originating realm, as is stated by Kratos in GOW 4 ragnarok and Freya said that the magic is bound to it's land, so the magic went with it.
And if it were Kratos from GOW4> whom were to fight, as it was already established, he holds back by a LOT, he Thor literally killed him and stopped his heart, only for the later to rejuvenate him with his electricity. Doom slayer doesn't hold back, he's always at his strongest, if he goes for the kill, which he will. Kratos is a dead man, unless you wanna give him ALL his magic (which should not work) and make him fight at 110% (which he won't and is out-of-character), then sure, Kratos probably could pull out a win due to all those hax he's got.
Doom slayer's feats and portrayal is much more concrete, it's a cherry pick battle for Kratos, though. People choose what to believe and what not to, although both of these could be true, depending on what game you would be concentrating, as one contradicts another.
wow thats a good comment. Thats why i dont like kratos feats. There is a video on yt that is just as your comment. Tbh i even think when kratos has all his powers he clapped.
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All of these coupled with the fact that santa monica openly follows British observed Mythology to make GOW games and funnily enough British observed Mythology follows the belief that all mythologys existed only on Earth which is even a direct contradiction to even the mention of dimensions, lol.
My point being this...
1. The Main location for the GOWverse is Earth
2. The infinite dimensions\ygdrassil that reside in the mythologys are only infinite in regards to their own Mythologys which means they are smaller than the Wworld but Infinite to its own Mythology, which is great reason as to why Yggdrasil doesn't span across the entire world but instead across Scandinavia and it's other realms.
3. GoW by definition isn't truly infinite. Even Mount Olympus in real life is the same one used in the game and the lore.
4. The Earth with the explanation I've provided is the largest thing in GOW.
5. All infinite dimensions created by primordials are only infinite in regards to its own mythology, in comparison to Earth, these infinite spaces are only as big as its mythology, to say otherwise is to imply the Greek Primordials has the power to create dimensions that span across and include different dimensions which would contradict the fact that primordials and Gods don't hold any extra knowledge on different mythologys.
These are the points im making, to make it even clearer, I'm saying that earth aside from the firmament which is a close second is the biggest location in GOW.
What I meant about primordials and Gods, while Knowing that other mythologys exist, have no knowledge on how big they are, their history, most of their Gods except the main one, their terrain, buildings or their practices. To imply they knew it all would contradict Mimirs statement of him being smarter and more knowledgeable than primordials.
My point is, if they don't even know the land of other mythologys, and their gods, they can't create a mirror image of them and since I've already proved that GoW exists on Earth, the only thing Nyx could replicate was her own universe aka greek mythology.
Nyx yet again also was stated to have created a mirror image of the Universe and as we've establisted
Universe = their own mythology
So there's even more misconceptions when it comes to Universes, pocket galaxies, dimensions, infinities and all that sort
@@Billy_Herrington1969 The yggdrasil isnt infinite in size. The only mention close to this is in the novel, but it says that the tree APPEARS to stretch to infinity. Not that it stretches to infinity, and it doesnt reach infinity.
The most damning part is when ratatoskr states that the tree's branches break under their own weight and fall when they grow too large and get too heavy.
Mid Slayer is level island@@dgagamingaesir
@@EzequielRuizdiaz-uu8otobvious rage bait 🪤
'but even the're not fast enough to outrun their fate" the most coolest line🔥🔥
0:16 Meanwhile a single ant in the real world😎
"The Doomslayer" this always sounds heavy and thrilling 🔥
I just love how a series of dimensions is all it takes for doom slayer to win this fight like i actually thought this was gonna be a close fight until he mentioned doom slayer being 6th dimensional
The Doom Slayer has been fighting innumerable experience of killing demons for eons ad has been fighting since the first age since the first battle in Hell a realm that is unlimited by time-space and dimensions which transcend Urdak which has the higher dimensional than the standard universe and is labeled as the 6th Dimensional by the UAC making Hell a 7th Dimensional this means hundreds. thousands and Hell even Billions of years wouldn't even describe the amount of time that the Doom Slayer has been fighting for.
@@MrLim-wq2gn another explanation of hell being 7 dimensional is as it was not known to the makyrs, the residents of urdak and also omniscient beings. Which means hell is above urdak. And crazy part is hell is just an extent of davoth's power. His anger alone changed jekkad into hell.
Theres a video called Why kratos vs DoomSlayer isnt even close Debunked. It basically destroys this dimensional stuff.
"gods dont look down from above, they look up, from hell" froze me. like literally dude. too cold. 🥶🥶
*proceeds to have normal strongman strength and avg persons strength* "THAT IS IMMEASURABLE"
Maybe they have unlimited potential but not unlimited strength
“ Gods don’t look down from above they look up … from hell “ That’s hard 😎
Bro always be dropping bangers 🔥🔥
Dude you seriously did your research. You def earned a new sub
"because gods don't look down from heaven, they look up from hell." - powerful ahh line
I was looking for a video based on this topic between these two beasts
Thanks man👍
Best videos I ever seen so much effort put into this great work bro❤
Let's goooo, thanks for using my beat again bro 💯💯
yes sir keep it up gang
Bro another banger like always, keep up the good work brother 👍🏾👍🏾
“Because gods don’t look down from above, they look up from hell” that line🥶🥶
Notifications from your channel always gets me excited, Amazing Content Divine 🔥
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This guy is like the most coolest power scaler ever. dropping cold bars at every corner, left us with no blankets
ugh finally dude, its been like a year😭
Divine should make a series called THE TRUTH where he ends the really popular versus disputes
Awesome Man! Keep it up!!❤
Thanks 🔥
"And resisted getting his soul snatched... PAUSE" Bro realized what he said too late 💀
at 2:57
Now this one's truly wildness of interesting Kratos the god killer who killed Titans and Giants Doom Slayer himself who killed giant monster demon god Titans I don't even know how to scare them but amazing video Divine you truly be cooking these videos 🔥🔥
Bro's English is really good and anything he says destroys my brain fr and he is the best in debunking
Such a goated RUclipsr ngl 🔥💯
Awesome! Love your videos
This is more of a contest of who is more badass than who would win.
A man who fought all of heaven vs a man who fought all of hell
Doomslayer destroyed both.
Same for kratos technically
Man this was fire as always🔥
You already know!
The miss scaling is funny 😂😂😂😂😂kratos feats goes from hyperversal to outter but doom is comp mulitversal to low hyperversal
No they dont.
Kratos is 5d
cope
You’re just mad 😂
yes sure but if we are using that logic the maykrs were the equivalent to gods like hades right. He killed the god of maykrs then the god that created the maykrs then the god that created that god. the maykrs were also multi dimensional each one controlled their own "realm" so to speak. if that helps you understand.
in shorter terms using your logic to scale kratos you just make slayer even stronger.
Tbh i think they would just be 2 bestest of friends as they spend their free time killing anything remotely demonic
Another W from Divine 😮💨
I am genuinely playing both game series fully because of this video to understand it all thank you for opening my eyes to early GOW games.
This finna be banger 🔥
Great Video _OfficialDivine_ :D
The real deciding factor of this matchup seems to be the reason that’s fueling each of them going into the fight. Whoever has the stronger motivation driving them will overcome whatever they need to. They both have shown their will is undeniable and they can bring any form of deity to its knees. Kratos having a current one dimensional gap in power could easily be overcame if he was running on something powerful enough to motivate him. The conclusion you came to seems plausible but good luck keeping kratos out of hell
We've seen kratos kill gods id like for him to start killing demons
“For gods do not look down fom the heavens, they look up from hell”
GOD DAMN that was fye. 🗣️🔥
Kratos: Needing a army to take down asgard
Doomslayer: One man is all i takes
Kratos: You need not remind me!
Yo huge fan of your work keep it up my guy 🙏🏽👌🏽👍🏽
i appreciate it
Honestly they would be friends
Hey divine, W video, is this fight close tho???
No Kratos negs
yes
His wife, child and *pet rabbit daisy* 💀
Divine your music goes hard(pause). You are the only RUclips Scaler I trust. Keep up the great work
Whats Next? Dante sparda vs Asura?
Doom slayer vs dante
At least those are my requests.
Dante vs azura is literary hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby, dantes soul alone is 5D, Dante and Vergil neggs fiction
@@jpnagaming7716 Dante is universal. Asura is multiversal. And these are Divine's scalings.
dante is NOT UNIVERSAL LMAOOOOOOOO, he is beyond multi complex outerversal wtf@@Byeebyeebyeee
@@Byeebyeebyeee no way blud thinks Dante is fucking universal, my god Dante is 9D, in base form he is beyond multiversal
@@jpnagaming7716 Yet again, not my scaling. Divine did it.
The rhymes are amazing and the story telling is so good keep up the good work
The two perfect mortal kombat crossover charaters
The two who I see with Scorpion as my top three favorite characters in gaming.
real
I have an issue with the "6 Dimensional" argument. This comes from Urdak being referred to in a computer as the "6th Dimension".
The problem is that there's not enough context to prove that "Dimension" in this case is being used to refer to higher geometric dimensions. Earth is referred to as the "7th Dimension", even though it should be a lesser dimension to Urdak. It's far more likely the term "Dimension" is being used here in it's common fictional term as a synonym for a different universe or as a nomenclature (ex. Marvel's Earth-616 or DC's Earth-0).
No doom slayer is outerversal
Hits hard as always.
W video my man the editing is just magnificent keep it up, ignore the haters
This would go crazy
Another W video from officialdivine Maybe your next video should be RG Sonic Because he is stronger
Dude I would LOVE to see you do The Guardians from Destiny vs Doomslayer or Kratos in the future. There pretty damn strong themselves.
theres no comparison. one needs gear and armor and a robro. where as the other was killing demons bare fisted and naked.
Two GOATS getting the recognition they deserve
Mad comparisons as always 🔥🔥 but kratos takes the w, keyword holding back 👀
keywords “power to match his will”
yeah but that gets capped by his cosmology and imo it's lower than kratos@@officialdivine..
What about kratos’ will to not die 👀
Doomslayer holds back way more than kratos, we've seen kratos struggle and even die before but the Doomslayer has never once broken a sweat, while having more impressive feats than kratos
@@Some_ArabGuykratos literally killed the personification of death
The fact that none of them could beat each other in a fair fight because they are evenly matched is wild 💀
Alternate Title: "The Rage of Pantheon Vs. The Demon's Greatest Nemesis." Do you Like it?
Alternate Suggestion;
The Hellish Destroyer of Heaven vs The Heavenly Destroyer of Hell!
Gods dont look down from above, they look up, from hell. NAH THATS FIRE AS FUCK
“Pause”😂 😂😂
We'll be using the statues of fate for that :P
I love how you have Kratos and doomslayer being really serious then Dante just casually dancing mid fight
The “pause” was weird to hear
battle will be legendary!” Kratos vs doomsslayer. Btw another W from divine.
10:35 this how I know I wasted my time man, kratos alone defeated a concept and flipped 9 infinite realms he don’t need his weapons
Doom slayer held the fathers soul sphere idk what you mean
@@Hazygrenade kratos killed decal gods with greater feats
@@Gamfluent decal?
So what, you just didn't watch the video?
Pls without the Blade of Olympus he could've never killed Zeus in fact take away the Blades of Chaos from the beginning I guarantee HE WOULD'VE LOST meanwhile Doom slayer could've gone from not using any guns up to Davoth not only he would've still won he even would've an EASIER TIME
2:59 "Pause"
"Here comes Kratos feats at supersonic speed"
for fuck sake how can people not understand this KRATOS WAS NOT A MORTAL THAT BECAME A GOD HE WAS A DEMI GOD THAT BECAME A FULL GOD!
Am I the only one who was reminded of the GT v Super Goku video, when Bro said the “One climbing to heaven to fight the gods and one falling to hell to kill the devil” line? Namely it was the “Man with the power of an Angel, or the Child with the power of a Demon” line that this video reminded me of.
plz do Kratos vs Asura
bet
I guess it official now bois@@officialdivine..
"You sent your gods to hell. I choose to keep them here"
"And you have my thanks for that. slayer"
bring the old music back, it was the best
"Gods dont look down from above"
"THEY LOOK UP FROM HELL"
my guy, you cant be doing this, your bars are too damn hard
But what if kratos doesn't hold back cause we haven't seen his full potential
Slayer negs
@@mando7323it's a tie
One kills gods the other one pretty much kills the thing that creates gods. Maykrs were pretty much gods in their own, he killed them like nothing then kill their creator, then killed that god, then killed the thing that made the things that made gods. theres about 2 or 3 layers that kratos is behind on. Hes strong. But there is a difference
Kratos negs negative diff
bro woke up and wrote the greatest quotes in the internet histort