WHAT AN EPISODE! GODLIKE! || GERMAN watches FRIEREN 1x10 - BLIND REACT-ANALYSIS
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@@LooKingG00d I would argue she does not necessarily. She only remembers them at the places. This is the only memory when she is not at the place she remembers. =)
@@LooKingG00d No, I disagree. Of course that is in part true, but they chose these scenes specifically. Also, this is the only time we see her remembering people when she is not at the place things happen. Add to that the memory loss that might set in teased in e16, I think my interpretation is definitely a valid one, even though I also see why you would disagree with it.
The sequence showing what Frieren did in the 1,000 years after Flamme's passing was 50 seconds long. The quick snapshots showing what happened in the 10 years after Frieren joined Himmel's party was 0.5 seconds long. That's to scale (1,000/ 50 = 10/ 0.5). The animators are very careful and precise in depicting the passage of time in this show, as this is one of the central theme of the story. Also, 10 / 1000 = 1/100, it recalls back to ep.1 when Frieren said her time with Himmel's party was less than 1/100 of her life.
Whoaa, is it that detail really? 😮
@@chairulmanalu Yeah, when Friren asked Stark to hold off the dragon for 30 seconds in ep. 6, the entire action sequence (not counting flashbacks) was 30 seconds long.
That sounds really cool. Still works with my thoughts as well as those scenes are what she remembers most from back then when she thinks about the time and it is the things that link to the present. =)
this is so amazing. thank you for sharing!
So a quick note about Fern and suppressing mana. If you remember back to the episodes where Fern was first introduced and Frieren starts teaching her there are a couple times where Freiren remarks about how hard it is for her to detect Fern. This is because Fern is already suppressing her mana. So either Fern naturally does this from a young age or more likely, in my opinion, Heiter taught Fern to do suppress her mana as a result of traveling with and observing Freiren for so long.
She was trained but she is also natural at it as her proficient at 6 years old is ridiculous.
Heiter probably trained her to do so when starting to be a mage. But Frieren also reinforced the training when she was teaching Fern. In the training montage, u can see her drawing circles around Fern, presumably to tell her to keep her mana within the circle.
Heiter taught her to do it initially, and this is revealed more in later episodes since Heiter learned it from Frieren.
I think there's a scene in Fern's early training where Frieren draws a circle around her. I think that's part of the suppression training: getting your mana aura to fit inside the circle.
she has a natural knack for fine control of mana which Heiter's hypothetical training might have awakened her to. Frieren remarks on it wholly separately from Fern's subtle mana presence.
This is reinforced when Frieren tells Fern that she can cast more spells faster than Frieren can. That likely has to do with Fern's natural fine control.
To add, for all we know (the manga may explain this but I haven't read it), Lugner had double or triple Fern's mana capacity, but we're talking about mana capacity scales so large that output trumps capacity. What's the point of having all that mana if you can't use it? You could extrapolate that Fern was pressuring Lugner so as not to let him let out more mana in one big attack. This is purely hypothetical.
The quick flash montage to me is a metaphor for the passage of time from Frieren's perspective. The 1000 years after the death of Flamme was slow and deliberate and her travel with Himmel, Heiter, and Eisen was just a flash.
That was how I interpreted it the two times I watched the episode alone. Frieren spent half a century with Flamme and its shown in just a few minutes, the decade spent with Himmel and the hero party is just a blink of the eye to her.
And also because she didn't quite understand her party member too, especially Himmel. Unlike with Flamme who taught her magics and spending time learning to know each other for at least 50 years as you said
Yes, I agree. Still makes the point stand that the things we see are those in parallel with what they were through "today". =)
The "just a feeling" line was said by Frieren herself after she said Flamme was much stronger than her.
Assuming Flamme was 25~30 when she found Frieren and it's been 50 years then she's got to be 75~80 there. She actually has aged incredibly well.
That is true. =)
Did you notice that Flamme casts her spells without a staff? In typical fantasies a staff is used to focus power, speed up spell casting, boost power. That's how powerful Flamme actually is.
Also this is just my guess but Flamme always imbues her magic in another living thing. The last two cases being plants. I'd say that is how her spells lasted so long. Spells need a source of mana, while everyone's convention is to use their own mana, Flamme helps a sapling cast a spell. And so the spell just gets stronger as the sapling grows into a forest.
And another thing.
The ending song is quite amusing asking if it's alright after a beheading. Last episode it said the same thing after Lugner got blasted by Fern :p
Interesting theory about Flamme. Gives her magic a druidic sorta vibe if true. There was another similar barrier around the town where Graf Granet was, I wonder if there was some sort of central tree there too, would be interesting to go looking for hints about this
It makes sense her name is Flamme. A tiny flame that grows into a raging forest fire.
Staves weren't in use in Flamme's time that was a later invention. Flamme is the founder of human magic and the human magic system has come a long way in 1000 years. Flamme learned from Serie, an elf which may explain why the Demon King wanted the elves exterminated. There is at least one clairvoyant among the demons and he may have been warned that the humans would learn magic and the only place for them to learn would be from the elves. So he orders that the elves be wiped out before that can happen.
Yes, I agree that Flamme probably uses something noone else does. I will talk about it more later, will be curious to hear your opinions on it. =)
I like how this episode is structured. It's obvious from the start that Frieren is stronger than Aura and we can even guess that the scales will likely play a part.
So instead of a big battle we learn exactly how and why she will win, get more backstory on Frieren and her relationships, and have more worldbuilding surrounding the nature of demons.
So even though there's not much tension in the main conflict because we know Frieren will win (easily), the entire episode still builds to an immensely satisfying conclusion.
Some minor thoughts:
- I love how cold Frieren is towards demons, there's no mercy, they're like rabid animals that need to be put down.
- I think Flamme did have some regrets about only training Frieren in magic to fight, which is why she taught her the flower spell, to show Frieren some of the joy of magic again.
- I really, really like the explanation of the relation between demons and their mana, it just makes perfect sense, top tier world building.
Yup, my thoughts exactly, it meets and exceeds our expectations, despite guessing what's going to happen at the end I still get chills when Frieren finally revealed her true power, truly masterful writing ... instesd of the "subverting expectations" garbage we get from western media these days.
@@AscendantStoic subverting expectations has become such a cliche that classical storysettings are now mindblowingly satisfying. God bless japanese creators still have creative freedom.
Some content creators are pointing out that "Frieren" and "Rings of Powewr Galadriel" are essentially the same character archetype, yet the writing of the former is wonderful and the writing of the latter is trash.
Yeah, it was beautiful writing and something many western "storytellers" have forgotten. =(
@@storieswithstyle kind of ironic considering frieren is pretty much based on western lore, myth and stories
The suppression of her massive aura is also probably why she sleeps so much. Remember she told Flamme in the beginning how exhausting it is.
No, now that is natural for her. She just lazy lol
Yes, might be :D
I like how people often call Aura very arrogant, stupid and overconfident... But she could detect mana with great precision, knew very well about instability and fluctuations in case of supression and patiently observed Frieren throughout the fight. Hearing her tone while talking about the Frieren's origin, it even appears to me that at some point Aura tried to research her background. And yet despite all this, Aura was still cautious enough to sacrifice quite a bit of her puppets just to deplete her opponent's mana and to observe a bit more.
Considering that long mana supression is tiring (according to Frieren herself), something like hiding for life (centuries in this case) is trully unprecendented. I'm sure there were only two mages throuout the history, who were insane enough to pull this out.
From Aura's perspective she really made the most rational decision (regardless of demon's mana-philosophy). At least it was much more logical than sacrificing half of her troops for an elimination of a single mage out of almost completly ungrounded fear. It's not like she could conjure spare warriors out of thin air - every single one of them was a trophy.
Aura was just unlucky and her enemy was simply stronger. I'm pretty sure Frieren didn't even need to use such a trick, and her words "I'd be in trouble" were more about it being 'hard and bothersome' than 'deadly dangerous'.
I think it's more like a habit - never fighting all-out and always preserving as much of her strength as possible. Maybe it is almost a trauma that Frieren developed after fighting Basalt. She was half-dead then and brutally ambushed short after. If not for the Flamme, the outcome would be completely one-sided.
I agree, also we have to consider that Aura did not know Frieren is 1000 or more old. lacking information did her in. =)
Frieren said, "just a feeling" to her old master when they just met. Basically Frieren just found herself in her masters shoes and Himmel reminded Frieren of her older self at the start of her journey.
One of my favorite tidbits is that Flamme told Frieren to keep a low profile until she was ready to take on the Demon King. She wasn't going around killing demons and getting famous for 1000 years. So to the demons, and importantly Aura, Frieren came out of no where and has only been active for about 80 years, and when they look at her, she has a small amount of mana. So even if shes an elf that could be really old, it seems like she hasn't been a mage for very long, and doesn't train regularly. So the advice Flamme gave 1000 years ago paid off.
Yeah, like an assasin. =)
@@storieswithstylei didn't think of that but that's very accurate
@@storieswithstyleI make an interesting connection to "Maoyuu". The demon queen equates the hero to an assassin, that the war would continue even after the hero kills the demon king, because the war isn't actually about humans vs demons but haves and have nots, and also that the war has been going on for so long that national economies and CULTURES on BOTH sides have become dependent on the war continuing.
She elaborates that the hero and demon king are monstrous aberrations in the eyes of "normal" people and that the hero's story is destined to end tragically in hindsight.
If the war ends "now", you'll have massive armies with nothing to do and no one to feed them, the economy will crash so hard that people will starve and die to disease, people will riot and nations will immediately go back to fighting amongst themselves for thr lack of a unifying threat.
Flamme is badass. According to what the show's portrayed so far, she's a figure of legend that people talk about in the present, she's the founder of humanity's magic system, the first person to study demons in depth and even named the species, she's an immensely powerful mage who mastered the skill of suppressing her mana output to avoid drawing attention and help in catching demons unaware, she doesn't even bother using a staff, her spells are so unique that some of the magics she cast are still functional and powerful beyond most mage's capabilities 1,000 years after her death, and she even trained Frieren and who knows how many more mages in her time.
I also like how the manga/show opted to subvert expectations by having the legendary wizard be a hot redhead instead of an elderly guy with a long beard, while also showing that Flamme's fame is 100% due to her skill as a sorceress, and she's never sexualized in the slightest beyond the character's design being clearly an attractive woman. Hell, by the way the characters refer to her as "The Legendary Mage Flamme" in the present, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people actually think she was a dude, in keeping with the theme of how memories change and fade, especially after so long.
Imho I don't think her being female and also a powerful mage is a subversion, as women in both fictional and historical literature are generally associated with magic and the fey.
Before seeing Flamme for the first time, I didn't think of her as some old man wizard(as the only few peeps I would associate that would be Merlin or Gandalf, and there's literally many other examples of very powerful mages that are female). Yeah I genuinely thought she would be old at first, my first thought upon hearing about Flamme that she is a an old lady like Morganna or Baba Yaga or Titania etc.
But that's just me, I suppose. I generally don't quickly associate magic with men in general, they're typically the vanguard or warrior or the usual guy that are disposable in a skirmish or war. Women have have been more associated with magic than men historically, at least from what I read. Alchemy is a different matter. Fey, demonic, shaman or witch magic is what I'm talking about when it comes to the association of the concept. Or maybe because I'm not a big LOTR fan, as Gandalf and Merlin are the first male characters that popped in my head when talking about magic.
I guess you haven't read the manga till magic academy arc... Flemme become legendary mage wasnt without help... She had her own master that teach/oversee her from very young age. Well part 2 of current season will tell you anyway. And the manga never even hinted that flemme identity (especially gender) was gone with time... Her legend is so famous. There are no vague information about her identity... The only things that lost from the history about her was her original magics.
I also thought she was male first. She is one of my absolute favourite charactres and probably has the most themes conencted to her, which is wild. =)
@@Mirfan-wt4sp You made me curious and I went on to read the manga and I'm honestly puzzled about what you said because it's very clearly stated that Flamme's master is not human and literally didn't want humanity in general to know magic and develop their own schools/system and she was against Flamme's plans for that, and also that some cities do have statues of Flamme as a man because they don't remember her correctly and they even showed one such statue.
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@@jmhaces well i never said flemme master was human wasnt i (cause its spoiler)?. Yes her master never approved flemme plans but she(flemme) does it anyway. Ofcourse her master intentionally took over what she left behind and make it herself in the end...
Well the statue of flemme was on latest chapter at a distant village and town which usually out of reach from main populace that happen to himmel figure also, when the reader already know and told who was her real identity(in here is gender).. also most population even eisen know her identity. Even in the manga when eisen helped frieren searching for flemme notes (ch7).
I think there's an error with the translation, Flamme didn't tell Frieren to teach no one to suppress their mana but to let no one know her true power until the demon king is defeated
Ahh, I see, that makes even more sense! =)
I like what you said about the meaning in Frieren’s first journey and how it wasn’t there. Now as she retraces her steps she will find the meaning in her journey with Himmel and probably realize how long 10 years was for them as she watches Fern and Stark grow up.
Yeah, that is so true, especially as Stark and Fern are becoming adults, something Frieren might not have witnessed yet. =)
Besides the first episode this one has the best writing so far, the insights it gives into demon hierarchy and how differently from humans they view mana and treat it as a status symbol was fascinating.
All the dialog and world-building in this episode was building towards the final reveal of the episode (also gives us insight in how Fern tricked Lugner in the previous episode), and despite knowing what's going to happen I still got chills when Frieren finally revealed the truth ... masterful writing and directing right there.
Agreed, the buildup was really cool and her mowing Aura down was still really satisfying. =)
Flame didn't go to fight a demon king, because she was busy traveling the world and erecting anti demon barriers around human settelments, which saved humanity from being destroyed by the demons.
Yes, I think that is true. =)
On the episode where Frieren was imprisoned, it was mentioned that Demons evolved from monsters that called for help in the forest. Convvergent evolution is surprisingly explored further on in the manga
Yeah, it seems like natural evolution from there. =)
I loved how the clothes and architecture in the flashbacks with Flamme was very Greco/Roman showing that being a thousand years ago and the changes in everything since then.
Since elves be around for a long time, this show could end up in a modern or even futuristic setting with Frieren doing Frieren thing. Just saying.
It actually might end up with her on a normal plaza in modern times telling this story to children. :D
@@Airwave2k2 I've captioned several modern setting fan arts with just Frieren as things like, "884 years after the death of Himmel the hero above the new city of York in the Western lands."
So I did the rough math on the 2 montages. The first was ~56 seconds and the second was 15 frames. That's 1%. The same as her journey with Himmel. This anime is solidly in my top 5 of all time.
It was the herbalist who suggest planting the flower actually. But I do agree it's a neat connection and call back.
I think how I understand it, mages train majority of their time on spells and magic. To focus on suppression is ultimately like focusing on supressing this thing that should be beautiful, honorable, and special. While also missing out on practicing magical technique in favor supression/trickery. Not a problem for Fern and Frieren however as they were shown to be prodigies.
Yes, that is probably also a factor, I like that idea. =)
Those few seconds with their adventure being show as just a few frames hit me really hard when I first saw it. It was just a mere 10 year adventure after all. Just a short, 10 year adventure...
Yes, agreed. It is such a sad unexpected moment.
"Aura, kill yourself" might be one of the coldest lines ever
Yes and she did not even look...
If you remember in Episode 2 (was it 2 or 1?). When Frieren was training Fern by the Riverbank and Heiter was in the river. Frieren was drawing a circle around Fern. That's Frieren showing her how much mana she should only be showing. It didn't click to me until this episode.
Nice, that is an awesome detail. I was more focused on Heiter because there is something about the scene I have nobody seen bringing up, so I was taken off guard by him there. :D
My favorite part is you replying to the "are you alright" in the ending.
I love how you translate and explain the Germen words for us. It's really cool to see it from a native perspective.
But maybe you can reduce the times you pause? Most of your question to the plot will be answered in a second or later.
In my own opinion it will give the viewer smoother experience if you tell us your question and thought altogether in the end of a part or the show.
No, that does not work like that, I have tried it. This way is the most enjoyable for me as I am able to get really imemrsed in what I am watching. Some answers are given soon, yes, that is the risk. Some are never given though. It is kinda a risk/benefit way of doing it. =)
@@storieswithstyle I see, never mind then. Thank you for your respond. Love to see more your thought of this show.
@@林用錢-q1u Thanks. =) I know it can probably get grating sometimes. But i hope I provide enough interesting thoughts to counterbalance that. =) All the best!
speaking of the fluffy beast she slept on. remember the winged creature plucking that claw from her hands at the start of the show? she's got 'connections'. not necessarily in the human world. :)
I see, that is awesome :D
If you notice, Fern was already suppressing her mana when Frieren first met her. Frieren remarked that she already had excellent control. I presume that (minor spoiler here)...
that since Heiter figured it out later in their travels (that Frieren suppressed hers) he got Fern to try to figure it out so she would suppress hers too before she even met Frieren.
Yes, that is a good point, I can see that being the case. She also is seen meditating. =)
I love the way you say the curses word it's very unique imho XDD
Probably the accent :D
@@storieswithstyle yea I think so too XD
😢 flamme jp va just passed away yesterday
RIP Atsuko Tanaka
RIP =(
One of the things that it doesn't state directly, but that seems to be the case is that humans seem to be born with higher mana amounts sometimes and they have the ability to grow them faster. Hence why you have someone like Flamme who would only live to be 80 or so versus demons who live to be hundreds of years old.
About Frieren's memory, she remembers everything but it seems to take her time to process things. because she lives so long she could spend a long time doing something and it would just be like a sort of short phase.
Yes, that is an interesting point. =) I wonder if there will be an explanaiton for that. =)
its stated earlyer in the show that deamons are an evolution of monsters that call for help (to attrackt victims) as in darvinien evolution. so they are just more evolved monsters, as humans are to Australopithecus (lucy)
At least that is what Flamme says :D But I agree, I do not think she lies. But she might have triggered that evolution artificially? I do not know, though.
about your comment on 25:00 about Frieren not remembering. It's never stated but i think there are parallels to how Frieren treats her relationships, memories and belongings. Time eventually degrades things and people die off, and memories also fade, so someone like Frieren that lost any semblance of family so long ago and has been alone since then for such a long time, may regards everything as equally "disposable" because she knows time eventually separates her from "it", so she doesn't take care to keep memories, belongings or relationships. That is, until she realizes how much she lost by being so callous. In a sence, That is the moment Frieren begins actually "living" purposefully, and not just existing.
Flamme said "Just a feeling", then Himmel said it, then Frieren to Fern ...
Perhaps Flamme could have killed the Demon King. But she would have never would have had the chance. Flamme was famous in her own time. She would have been seen as a true threat. When she met Frieren, she realized she had a chance for a do-over. She turned Frieren into an assassin, who could walk into the gates of hell and never raise an alarm. She was a nobody, unknown to all, a girl both small in stature and possessing insignificant mana.
Yes, she is kinda the mastermind behind his downfall :)
I like that in this episode, it is made clear how long ago Frieren was together with Flamme. If you look at the architecture of the human city (greek pillars etc.) and the human clothing - even the clothing of Flamme which is toga-like, it gives a vibe of "classic greek culture" vs. "medieval european culture" for the present time in the series.
yeah, also makes the trope of "eternal medieval times" obsolete. =)
The phrase "Just a feeling", was first said by Frieren about Flame when she met her, then when meeting Stark, about him being a good warrior, and finnally by Himmel when meeting Frieren, which at the time mirrored her own words about her teacher.
30:12 The total disrespect of this scene: turning around while ordering Aura to kill herself, not even watching, not really caring.
Yeah, she just went away, pretty cold, loved it though. Especially as she honors the fallen next episode.
@@storieswithstyle Frieren was taught to care by Himmel, but it might not be until Episode 11 that she realized why it was important that she not batter the armor of Aura's victims.
I said you'd get your horror aspect! Hope you liked it! I especially liked watching your reaction because it answer several questions you've been asking for a fair number of episodes.
1. She lived in obscurity until after she defeated the Demon King.
2. Demons can't suppress their mana long-term because to them that is the height of madness.
3. Frieren learned the flower spell from Flamme a thousand years ago, but didn't really start her hobby of picking up new spells until an "idiot" complimented her on it. Said idiot being Himmel, the day she astounded the rest of the Hero's Party by casting the flower spell in and around a ruined temple.
4. The more time you spend training magic, the more magic/mana you have overall.
5. The Demon King ordered the extermination of the elves because due to point 4 above and their enormous lifespans, they were the one race that could truly threaten him.
6. Frieren was taught how to continuously train her magic. Remember how suppressing her magic was tiring? That's using her magic skills to suppress her magic energy. Now imagine getting so used to it you can't stop - not even in your sleep. So she's effectively training 24 hours a day for a thousand years straight. That's easily three times the training time spent by most fanatics who would train eight hours a day every day, and it's hard to believe anybody could keep that up for very long. That was how Flamme trained her to grow to be stronger than the Demon King. The down side is Aura had found a similar style of training - never letting her control of her zombie puppets go, thus effectively training her continuously as well. This is why the two were actually not too far apart in power levels.
Last, I'll say, Aura had it coming. I haven't read the light novel or manga, but I've come to learn from those who have, those suits of armor were NOT empty. They were filled with the rotting headless corpses of her prior victims. Even if most had rotted to dust and rattling bones, I can't imagine what that looked, sounded, and worst of all smelled like. Easy to see why Freiren considers it disgusting.
Wow, that is messed up. I like that they tones it down a bit, would have detracted from the story a bit I think. =)
@@storieswithstyle Yeah I agree. I think they made an excellent call not demonstrating that in the anime. This and Aura's death were the horror aspects I was referring to earlier by the way.
Amazing episode. Great reaction!
Thanks, hope you are doing alright! =)
I always notice this and i dont really understand since i am not an artist.
Flamme standing looks so confident, her posture is so straight, her hair to foot its just a straight line.
I love that about her for some reason lol
Yeah, it is a great shot/panel. =)
Himmel knows, because he has had a crush on her for a while in a sense.
Yes, he "Understands her". =)
I think that to Frieren and Flamme, the disgrace is that they take the most beautiful thing and twist it into a tool for killing.
While the Manga doesn't say why the demon king ordered a genocide of the elves, given that elves are immoral and can continue to grow more powerful in magic over thousands of years, the demon king most likely considered elves to be the only real threat to demon kind. Since demons completely look down on humans because of their mortality and very short live spans. Only a very small number of exceptionally powerful humans can be considered a threat to the demons. But elven mages live far longer than even demons do. So they can easily grow more powerful than demons. There were never all that many elves though. They are like Tolkien elves, immortal and rarely having children. But demons are pretty numerous and were able to nearly wipe out all of the elves. So the demons are the main reason that elves are nearly extinct.
Yea that probably right. It make sense that The Demon King consider Elves and Hero is the real threat
My take isn't so much as the flash back montages are Frieren's recollection but as a way of representing time to the audience. Her time between Flamme and the Himmel were slow and lazy as the passage of time marched on for a thousand years and then the brief cuts of her journey with Himmel happened so quickly against the rest of her life that it was barely any time at all. I would not be surprised if the actual time of the two montages had the difference being a 100 to 1 in the anime's runtime.
Este episodio me recuerda un poco al episodio de Dragón Ball, cuando un arrogante Vegetta descubre que Son Goku oculta su verdadero poder y que el dispositivo de detección no sirve para nada.
Gran episodio y gran anime Frieren.
Un saludo.
Yes, I agree! =) Love that trope! =)
"And you alright"
_Aura was in fact, not alright._
28:08 that might be true but you underestimated Himmel. Well we don't see him shine anytime soon in Anime. Manga we already have some of Himmel action. Man is goat
Probably, but don't know that yet :D
One super cool thing about the demons is that they dont even use vocal chords to speak. Its all magic.
Wow, that is f*d
Edit: I made my comment early, lol. You came to the same conclusion as me.
Edit 2: There's a reason Frieren has taken a deeper interest in Fern. It's likely she she's not just herself in Fern, but a better version of herself.
This episode hints at why there are so few elves in the world. The Demon King ordered his minions to find and eradicate all Elves. Why? My hunch is because like demons, Elves can live exasperatingly long lives. Humans and dwarves who have such short lives to master their skills to face demons while Elves can take hundreds of years to master their skills. They are the biggest threat to Demon-kind.
Yes, I also feel it is the mana. Infinity is potentially really dangerous.
As always - great reaction, thank you!
I’m think, that in flashback after Himmel introduction it wasn’t something like “fainting” memories, but rewind through their journey to goal - kill the demon king. Because we will watch more details of heroes party adventures in future episodes/chapters. But, of course, I could be wrong.
And can you please tell, are you plan to continue the reactions on Chainsaw man? I liked them too :)
I wil ldefinitely continue Chainsawman. Currently have to balance work/life a bit. =) I am not sure about the memoires, but I acutally think it is likely after e16 and the fact that she normally remembers her adventure only when she is at the places. =)
What is the symbology of the moon?
I will dive into that a lot in the German explanaiton, it would not fit into this comment :D CAn't wait to see what you will think about it. =)
Dat kann ich mir doch net ansehn, ich muss noch arbeiten D:
Hoffe es hat dir auch später noch zugesagt inhaltlich :D
@@storieswithstyle gerade von der arbeit wieder da. Wunderbares Video
@@simongames100 Hoffe du hast nen ruhigen Abend! =)
The reason for the demon kings deeds will only much later beyond what the anime will adept start to slowly be revealed.
Demons have been around for thousands of years before Flamme, and the Demon King is the strongest of them who has never been defeated until Himmel did so. Flamme did not create demons unless time line has been tampered with on purpose.
I do not know yet, but perhaps it will be confirmed to be the case later, I will wait and see. =)
interesting concept about memories. If a human could live like an elf say more than a thousand years, can a human brain retain that many memories? i know we tend to dump the non-important and keep the core ones intact during our lifetime but can the brain actually contain that many long-term memories, if not being able to record them down on a separate medium?
8:02 one of the latest chapter on manga might have revealed on why demon king wants to annihilate the elfs
You will Frieren, Flamme and others see repeatedly dehumanize demon's, as even demon's are barely aware of their own emotions.
I'd say that the reason why suppressing your mana while fighting another mage is cowardly, is because of the difficulty of seeing how strong somoene is with their mana.
Aka; Its a leftover from old times, a time demons are still stuck in where might makes right.
You cant "dress up" mana. You cant wear fancy clothes to show you're a good mage. You show youre a good mage by displaying how much mana you have.
Just like how a Chess Grandmaster would be playing unfair if they went to a newbie Chess tournament undercover, suppressing your mana while fighting another mage is unfair in the same way.
24:00 Frieren said the same thing to flamme when they first met just like how himmel did to frieren
Nearly forgot, for the demons Frieren is "Frieren the Slayeer", but her title among humans/dwarves/elves is "The Mage of the End".
That last title actually has multiple meanings in a way.
Yes, love the multiple meanings. =)
I think the flashforwards at the end of the flashback was just to show the progression of time
Also people argue that Frieren didnt have to kill Aura but it is noted last episode that individuals with strong wills can oppose the scales and demons are nothing if not strong willed so eventually Aura would probably resist and cause havoc once again
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Thank you for the interesting video. I'm enjoying watching your videos. The explanation of German words is interesting.
However, unfortunately I feel that there are too many pauses.
The same thing happened in the last few episodes, episode 9.
That could ruin the flow of the story that the creators have been so particular about creating.
It feels like the music of Mozart or Beethoven is explained note by note and measure by measure.
For me and many Japanese people, we value things such as the distance from the other person, the slight differences in reactions during conversation, the speed at which lines are spoken, and facial expressions when people are silent.
It's difficult to explain, but in Japanese it's called ``間=Ma''.
And this program has been created with very particular attention to them.
I would like you to understand time, space, and changes in emotional state due to them as a series of flows.
In this 10th episode, continue from the previous 9th episode by accumulating small reminiscences of the past, and the tension gradually increases, and then it is suddenly released at the end. I think that's why it's called a masterpiece.
I guess it can't be helped since the purpose of the video is for you to react and analyze, but I think there are a lot of things that are overlooked because there are a lot of pauses.
Enjoy advanced animation, elegant dialogue, and magnificent music OST even more.
(I used google translate)
Hi, I know there are many pauses, but this way I am able to fully immerse myself in the brilliant material. I have tried other ways and they after a while felt like a chore. I understand that there are subtleties, I get most of them when I rewatch stuff. I adapt a research method here called "think aloud", which indeed has the problem that you might get redundancies. Things like the tension building up etc. are not lost, though. But they are not what I think about when there are other layers of the story at play. E.g. during attack on titan, I do indeed let situations breathe because there are some things where pauses interrupt my experience. =) So it is mostly personal prefereance. =) I would be interested though about things I overlooked? I would be very curious. =) All the best!
Yes, loved that despite all the battle magic, the most important one was a spell of giving life. =)
its one of my theories that them constantly hiding their mana actually affect their personality...i view it as them constantly lying and suppressing their "self"s which is why they are a bit aloof...frieren fern the other elf mage which i cant remember name ffs and flamme altho im not certain about flamme but there isnt enough evidence to say that she wasnt aloof
I think Frieren remembers what Basalt had said before he died. He probably told her something along the lines of demons are sapient creatures who are trying to learn to exist as people do, but that humanity has only shown them fighting, so they only know that society means fighting. Frieren hasn't struck first. She's waited for the demons to make the first strike. And then she turns their own methods of trying to kill her against them.
With Qual, she used his own spell against him. With Draht, he tried to decapitate her, and her method to kill him was to go for his neck and sever it from the body. And Aura tried to use her overwhelming mana to overpower Frieren, which Frieren then turned back on her by showing her even more overwhelming mana aura. She has given the demons each a chance to not be bad guys, and when they inevitably show their asses, she hands it back to them.
Might also be Himmel and his stance on the demon child, kind of like she learned doubt from him. =)
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Remember in an earlier episode Aura cuts off the heads of the humans she dominates bc some of them can resist the domination magic for a time. In all Auras contempt for humans being weaklings, she herself couldn't even resist for a second.
She technically was resisting to an extent. But her resistance only caused her more pain by being fully aware she was killing herself.
Yeah, that was dark...
SPOILER
Frieren is far from being the strongest, she not strong enough to took down The Demon King on her own but it hint that she or her party has something, idk what it is but it something that make them defeat The Demon King even Serie can't
No need to react every 10 seconds, because usually the answer to your questions are just 10 seconds away. Maybe reacting every scene would be better.
Tried that, did not work for me. =( Some answers are 10 secs away, others never come. I can not know that beforehand, so that is the risk I am willing to take :D
Spoiler
only 1 demon concealed his mana, and no he's no really dead
This show isn't good for my eyes. They seem to be leaking so much. Well thought out details and characters make this not only a thought provoking tale but a deep one. Love it! And I can tell its a much more genuine emotional tale than something that is plain sob bait like To your eternity. The biggest plot problem I've seen so far is the bit about souls not being proven by magic yet aura using the scales to measure souls, not sure if that was an error by the author or a mistranslation of some kind.
I think they probably mean mana.:)
30:27 "Are youuu aaalright?" at the end is the best bit of unintentional comedy i've seen in a while.
Yes :D
And the reason why she started to collecting spells is because Himmel said that he really likes the spell that creates a field of flowers
Yes, true, did not think of that. So awesome! =)
Great episode and great reaction
My favourite theory is that Frieren always so sleepy and tired becouse she always hide her mana and that could drain some energy all the time
Also i think they killed demon king together, as a real team of heroes
Yep, she might be sleepy because of that. =)
the way frieren remember the journey look so fast forward coz what frieren said in first episode, 10 year is just like fleeting moment for her.
she prob remember everything, it's just 10 year is just too short for her.
Yes, that is likely an aspect as well. =)
The reason what Flamme, Frieren, and Fern (I _just_ realized they all start with F) do is "a mockery to magic" is it's like Superman walking into a weight lifting competition as Clark Kent in a baggy tweed sweater and khakis - they're intentionally sandbagging themselves, and to an outside observer appear to "not be taking it seriously".
Demons on the other hand are the ones striding up to the competition in the smallest tank tops they could find, flexing with all their might - because to them, showing off their prowess and mastery of the material that they've worked hard to cultivate is status and prestige.
Yes, I like that comparison, it really fits =)
I gotta say that one of my favorite things about Flamme and Frieren is that despite being incredibly powerful mages their favorite spells are simple ones that just make people happy. And that Flamme learns that spell from her parents when she was a child, and Its what she wanted to be remembered for kinda hit me in the feels.
That "Hold my beer" moment at the end where Frieren went "Oh you think you're powerful well watch this." If it wasn't for the fact that she so far has given every major demon she killed a chance to walk away, I'd almost feel sorry for them.
Yeah, agreed, their favourite spells are hugely meaningful and I loved it. =)
The Demon King wanted all the Elves dead because elves live as long as demons so the elf mages mana build up over time is a threat. Plus the amine made the Elves like the )Angels or celestial beings) and The Demaons pure evil... they are opposites of the same coin.
did you notice they indirectly reveal that Heiter is pretty damn strong?
Aura measured Frieren got about 100 years of training mana
while Heiter measured Frieren got 1/5 of his mana capacity
so Heiter actually got 500 years of mana just like Aura? isn't that crazy?
Yeah, Heoter is a beast. We have not seen the old party in action a lot, but they are implied to be almost broken (that is the vibes I got) =)
Frieren didn't seem like a very social person to begin with, but centuries of essentially being a hermit probably didn't help her develop social skills/awareness.
So true :D
They explain why demons don't hide their mana, but I have a guess as to why mages typically don't either.
Your mana is a physical representation of your experience as a mage; it is a testament to the work and study you have dedicated yourself to. By hiding it constantly, you're deliberately being deceitful about your credentials. In a town, it might be like pretending you didn't study medicine to avoid needing to treat people. In a fight, it would be like pretending to be a novice just to clown on your opponent. In the latter situation it's understandable in a life or death situation, but it's easy to see why doing so would be considered uncouth if there's an implied mutual respect between mages.
Yes, I guess it is like your portfolio. =)
28:10 Yeah, if you'd lived alone in the woods for 500 years I could imagine it being hard to connect with people again :P
My friend, what you have seen is the best anime episode of 2023.
Yes, though 2 was also really good. =)
19:30 also a mundane thing but if you pay real close attention Frieren (the character and her VA for voice lines) becomes more emotive/expressive in moments of attachment or around people she had a bond with. Here it was her turn around to ask Flamme to teach her the flower spell (she did it slightly faster than she would normally) and her VA's voice work you can hear more emotion in it even though it's a very basic line of dialogue to show how much Frieren wanted to learn that spell.
Yes, agreed. VAs from Japan are truly the best in the world. Loved the Heiter VA as well when he said "frieren" shortly before dying. So much emotion and nuance. =)
30:29 Ending song: And your alright🎶
Yeah im alright... Wait im not alright after im seeing cutted her head on her perspective😂
Yep, Basalt is a volcanic Rock, its in Fact one of the volcanic rock material you will find most on Earth (approximately 90% of Volcanic Rocks on Earth are Basalt)
Also, you saw in this Case when they mentioned earlier in another Episode that a strong willed Person can temporarily resist Auras Magic, this is what happend with Aura herself now. If she wouldnt have resisted, her Head would have been sent flying immediately, but she tried to resist her own Magic and the Command Frieren gave, which was the Reason she hesitated and prolonged her own suffering.
I knew it was a kind of rock! =D
Yeah, Aura's fate was really dark. But she also had it coming.
Ah, Mitternacht. Das geht ja noch. I do not know how a linguist would call this as I come from the STEM field, put the pacing and pattern... the way this is told , where we all know what the ending will be, and nonetheless it is glorious... is peak writing or better storytelling imo.
Yeah, the writing was so good. Proved that you do not need "twists" all the time to make something engaging. =)
Even though they shared the same goal before they really knew each other, I think Flamme felt a lot of guilt behind teaching Frieren pretty much only strategy and magic for combat, even pushing her to live in isolation. I think that played a role in why she chose to leave that grimoire that told Frieren about Aureole, a way of both rewarding her for living out their pact and apologizing for not giving her more personal connections.
Yes, it was very harsh, but tragically necessary. =( Also, she might know that she was her only connection and wanted more for her. =(
One thing to note about Friren is that she has a very specific habit when it comes to killing demons, and that is to always let them understand that they have lost right before they die.
She could have blasted Qual immediately after removing his seal, but she instead made sure he understood how obsolete and outmatched he was (while also giving Fern valuable combat training).
She could have decapitated Drat with her first attack, but instead she took both his hands and waited just long enough for him to understand his defeat before killing him.
She didn't blast aura's head of after tipping the scales, but instead ordered her to kill herself which is both a way to humiliate her by killing her with her own spell, and a way to make the death take long enough that she has time to agonize over it.
IMO there are two reasons for this behaviour.
The first and most obvious one is her hatred for demons.
The second and more subtle one is the fact that she hides her true power. If you constantly hide your strength, you will develop a desire to flex a little bit every now and then. It might be a small desire, but it will exist regardless.
So, to satisfy this minor urge, she doesn't do it in a way that could leave a rumor or anything similar behind, she only flexes on her enemies who will die in the next few moments and will never get the chance to tell anyone.
Like you said, so many small but very cool details in this show :)
Wow, have not thought about it, but you are indeed right. =) I think she does that because Himmel would have wanted it? Perhaps remembering the demon child and what he said there initially?
@@storieswithstyle I'm not sure if it's related to Himmel or not, but the reason I noticed it is because it's something I can identify with.
I absolutely despise people who act like they didn't lose an argument when they clearly got out argued by both facts and logic, because I genuinely consider that sort of reality ignoring attitude to be a growing problem today.
The least harmful version of this is flat earthers, but there does exist several far worse versions that are actively harmful (I've been personally harmed by someone like this too).
So whenever I see people who are like this, I feel a desire to see them being made to understand how wrong they are.
It's not quite the same feeling Friren has, but it's similar :)
@@carljohan9265 Yeah, from a psychological perspective some people run aay from the truth because oterwise the restructuring of the brain is too much and it would lead to something like ptsd. But agreed, those people can be really dangerous. Basically all extremists.
Im sure you caught it, but at the part you cut at 9:34, the important part of the conversation is despite Frieren and Flamme both having this extreme bordering on genocidal hate for demons, they both love magic in a deeper sense than just its use for combat. A theme we've seen before with Fern and we see explored further on when Flamme was Old. And I think this is probably the motivation behind Frieren collecting spells, besides Himmel and her party. Flamme mostly taught Frieren combat spells, now Frieren is free to go on a quest to uncover the more whkmsical side of Magic which she adored so much.
Yes, it definitely is. Conserving the past as well. =)
The Frieren we know who always fall to mimic trap, who always wake up late and hate cold is the same Frieren the Slayer who kill most demons than anyone in history.
Yes, that is so badass. =)
I don't know if you'll see this, but I wanted to point out something that Heiter said. It's easy to think of Frieren as carrying the party of heroes, but every single one of them was a monster in their own right. When they met Frieren, Heiter said that she has about a fifth of his mana. He was probably around 20 years old, and if Frieren was still suppressing her mana to 1/10th of her real mana, that means Heiter at age 20 had half the mana of Frieren at age 1000something. That's insane
Yes, heiter is probs really strong. We just do not see it as him fighting would show him not heiter :D
I can't succinctly explain why, but now, whenever I hear you say "low diff" it brings a smile to my face. Brilliant reaction as usual.
Thanks you so much! =) I really like these situations where a character I like shows badassary. I have seen it done not so well sometimes, ut here it is always just so awesome! =)
I do note that Frieren is wearing Flamme's jewelry on her quests.
And uses rainbow colors a bit in her Zoltraak. =)
Remember how Lügner called Frieren a genius, who doesn't know the struggle of hard work? Like Aura, he only knew that she simply showed up 80 years ago with no idea of her age. Meaning Flammes teachings took full effect on him too
I think that she also remembers Flamme quite well, because 50 years is quite a lot for Frieren back then, since this was a thousand years ago and she was "only" a few centuries old, otherwise she would have said that she is over 2000 years old. 50 years of like 400 years would be an 8th of her lifetime.
We got a lot from Flamme this episode and it's always great when we see stuff of her, but mostly we will now just see the things she has taught to Frieren.
Notably, we have never seen any other elf or dwarf at this point. For Dwarfs this might be a coincidence, but for elves we know why.
Yeah, I love that it all fits even if you think longer about stuff. =) So many details. =)
You must deceive your allies to deceive your enemies is all this is about.
Frieren could have beaten the sages they encountered on the hero's journey, but the demons and their king would have become aware of her if a mage went around capable of slaying the sages.
So distracting, avoiding or sealing them was a better option.
Through her live in obscurity and solitude Frieren seems to have developed some issues, like constantly belittling and underestimating herself and her work.
Before she said how humans deciphered Zoltrak and developed it, yet we later learned she was a major asset in that work.
Similarly another character we get to know later is also majorly involved in humans development of magic.
Raw mana depends on inborn affinity, age and training, that is why humans are unlikely to outperform older demons in that regard, less even ancient elves who can live even longer.
Yeah, like the ultimate long-term plan of assasination. =D
although it was most likely just a throw away comment at 7:53
i have actually wondered this to some degree. what if demons had evolved from monsters as we know, but then elves evolved from demons? it would be kinda interesting. it would explain frieren's lack of understanding of emotion and society (the logical answer to this though is just that she has a different perspective due to her longevity)
Yeah, I think there has to be some connection between demons and something else. Like, why and how did they evolve from the mosnters?
One of the most hype fight without the actual fighting. She really pulled call an ambulance but not for me.
Yeah, it was really well done and tset up in my opinion! =) Also, thank you so much! =)