People dislike the DAK system because they use it incorrectly. The DAK (Double Action Kellerman) is a double-action-only pre-cocked mechanism. What separates it from other systems is that it has two trigger resets: one closer to the trigger break and another further out. If you release the trigger all the way to the second, further reset, you get a light and smooth trigger pull. The first reset results in a heavier, but still smooth, pull. Many police or military units train officers to use the first reset for "fast follow-up shots." This is incorrect. The first reset is there as a safeguard in case an officer short-strokes the trigger, allowing them to fire if necessary. However, Sig advises that you should train to release the trigger all the way to the second reset. This gives you the lightest and smoothest pull for maximum accuracy. Out of the box, the DAK trigger is the smoothest I’ve ever felt. The pull is even and linear with no stacking (that sudden increase in weight before the trigger breaks). It’s a simpler system with fewer parts since there’s no need for a single-action mechanism. As a result, Sig has been able to refine the double-action pull to perfection. The result? The smoothest, most consistent trigger pull you’ll find in an out-of-the-box pistol. Unlike DA/SA pistols, which have two separate trigger strokes (double-action and single-action), the DAK only has one. On a DA/SA, the manufacturer has to decide whether to refine the double-action or single-action trigger. Most, including Sig, choose to refine the single-action, leaving the double-action rough and often plagued with stacking. This happens because manufacturers typically refine parts like the hammer and sear for the single-action, while components involved in the double-action pull (like the trigger bar and hammer spring) are left untouched. It’s cheaper and simpler for them, but it leads to a subpar double-action pull that’s rough and inconsistent. This mentality of prioritizing the follow-up shots over the first shot is completely wrong. As a civilian, you're liable for every round you fire. Sacrificing the quality of the first shot due to a rough double-action pull is unacceptable. The first shot is just as important, if not more so, than the follow-ups. Both the double-action and single-action parts of the mechanism should be refined. But with the DAK, there's no compromise because there’s only one trigger pull to focus on: the double-action. The result? The smoothest, most consistent, and crispest pull you'll ever experience, without any stacking. One major benefit of the simplicity and refinement of the DAK system’s internals is that it leads to a smoother, freer-moving slide and action, which in turn results in more reliable cycling of less powerful ammunition. The DAK’s simple design also makes it more resilient to debris or dirt getting into the system. In contrast, the DA/SA, which isn’t as refined, has more friction in the action, leading to a jerky, uneven slide movement. This can cause the DA/SA to struggle with cycling a wider range of ammo, making it less reliable than the DAK. Additionally, the smoother slide movement in the DAK allows the recoil spring to work more effectively in mitigating recoil. Because the slide moves freely without hesitation, more energy is absorbed by the spring rather than transferred to the shooter, resulting in less felt recoil. On the other hand, the grit and friction in the DA/SA’s action cause slide resistance, and that energy is transferred more to the shooter instead of being absorbed by the spring. This results in more felt recoil after each shot, making the DA/SA feel harsher to shoot. However, after upgrades to the DA/SA, such as action cleanup or trigger refinement, the smoothness of the action should bring similar benefits to those of the DAK. A refined DA/SA will result in a more freely moving slide, allowing it to cycle a wider variety of ammunition loads more reliably. Additionally, the smoother action will allow the spring to mitigate recoil better since the slide's movement will no longer be impeded by resistance or hesitation. These improvements will help close the gap between DA/SA and DAK systems in terms of reliability and shootability. Another excellent feature of the DAK is that the trigger breaks earlier in the stroke compared to DA/SA models. Sig made this refinement specifically on the DAK to ensure it’s more comfortable for sustained double-action fire. The earlier break means there’s more room between the rear of the trigger and the backstrap, preventing your finger from getting pinched between the trigger and backstrap with every press. On DA/SA models, especially those with thin short-reset trigger profiles, the trigger resets much closer to the backstrap. Combined with the heaviness, roughness, and stacking, this promotes torquing the trigger towards the end of the pull, inevitably causing pinching. Long story short: the DAK is one of, if not the best, triggers ever made. It’s smoother than any stock DA/SA, has a consistent pull whether you’re shooting fast or slow, an even pull without stacking, and it breaks earlier, preventing finger pinching. In fact, the trigger is so smooth that you won’t even feel the wall-you’ll be pulling, and before you realize it, the shot has already broken. All of this makes for one of the most accurate out-of-the-box pistols you can get without any modifications. In comparison, a DA/SA needs to be sent to a place like Grayguns for action cleanup and trigger refinement to even approach the smoothness of the DAK. I plan to do this for my DA/SA because I don’t want to sell it. Once they work on it, I expect the trigger to be on par with the DAK. However, if I had to choose between my DA/SA Sig or my DAK Sig, I’d choose the DAK every time. Even after upgrading the DA/SA, I’ll likely still prefer the DAK. Remember, when training with the DAK, always release the trigger all the way to the second reset before firing for the optimal and recommended experience at just 6-6.5 lbs of pull weight. If you stop at the first reset, it will increase to 8-10 lbs-still smooth, but noticeably heavier.
Let me guess, you just wanted to talk to the car owner about their extended warranty and they kept refusing...
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I hate this gun, used it in the coast guard
Best branch ngl. I tell people in the army, navy, marines or air force that theyd never make it into the coasties
whyd you hate it tho
What issues did you have with it? It’s difficult getting use to
People dislike the DAK system because they use it incorrectly. The DAK (Double Action Kellerman) is a double-action-only pre-cocked mechanism. What separates it from other systems is that it has two trigger resets: one closer to the trigger break and another further out. If you release the trigger all the way to the second, further reset, you get a light and smooth trigger pull. The first reset results in a heavier, but still smooth, pull.
Many police or military units train officers to use the first reset for "fast follow-up shots." This is incorrect. The first reset is there as a safeguard in case an officer short-strokes the trigger, allowing them to fire if necessary. However, Sig advises that you should train to release the trigger all the way to the second reset. This gives you the lightest and smoothest pull for maximum accuracy. Out of the box, the DAK trigger is the smoothest I’ve ever felt. The pull is even and linear with no stacking (that sudden increase in weight before the trigger breaks). It’s a simpler system with fewer parts since there’s no need for a single-action mechanism. As a result, Sig has been able to refine the double-action pull to perfection. The result? The smoothest, most consistent trigger pull you’ll find in an out-of-the-box pistol.
Unlike DA/SA pistols, which have two separate trigger strokes (double-action and single-action), the DAK only has one. On a DA/SA, the manufacturer has to decide whether to refine the double-action or single-action trigger. Most, including Sig, choose to refine the single-action, leaving the double-action rough and often plagued with stacking. This happens because manufacturers typically refine parts like the hammer and sear for the single-action, while components involved in the double-action pull (like the trigger bar and hammer spring) are left untouched. It’s cheaper and simpler for them, but it leads to a subpar double-action pull that’s rough and inconsistent.
This mentality of prioritizing the follow-up shots over the first shot is completely wrong. As a civilian, you're liable for every round you fire. Sacrificing the quality of the first shot due to a rough double-action pull is unacceptable. The first shot is just as important, if not more so, than the follow-ups. Both the double-action and single-action parts of the mechanism should be refined. But with the DAK, there's no compromise because there’s only one trigger pull to focus on: the double-action. The result? The smoothest, most consistent, and crispest pull you'll ever experience, without any stacking.
One major benefit of the simplicity and refinement of the DAK system’s internals is that it leads to a smoother, freer-moving slide and action, which in turn results in more reliable cycling of less powerful ammunition. The DAK’s simple design also makes it more resilient to debris or dirt getting into the system. In contrast, the DA/SA, which isn’t as refined, has more friction in the action, leading to a jerky, uneven slide movement. This can cause the DA/SA to struggle with cycling a wider range of ammo, making it less reliable than the DAK.
Additionally, the smoother slide movement in the DAK allows the recoil spring to work more effectively in mitigating recoil. Because the slide moves freely without hesitation, more energy is absorbed by the spring rather than transferred to the shooter, resulting in less felt recoil. On the other hand, the grit and friction in the DA/SA’s action cause slide resistance, and that energy is transferred more to the shooter instead of being absorbed by the spring. This results in more felt recoil after each shot, making the DA/SA feel harsher to shoot.
However, after upgrades to the DA/SA, such as action cleanup or trigger refinement, the smoothness of the action should bring similar benefits to those of the DAK. A refined DA/SA will result in a more freely moving slide, allowing it to cycle a wider variety of ammunition loads more reliably. Additionally, the smoother action will allow the spring to mitigate recoil better since the slide's movement will no longer be impeded by resistance or hesitation. These improvements will help close the gap between DA/SA and DAK systems in terms of reliability and shootability.
Another excellent feature of the DAK is that the trigger breaks earlier in the stroke compared to DA/SA models. Sig made this refinement specifically on the DAK to ensure it’s more comfortable for sustained double-action fire. The earlier break means there’s more room between the rear of the trigger and the backstrap, preventing your finger from getting pinched between the trigger and backstrap with every press. On DA/SA models, especially those with thin short-reset trigger profiles, the trigger resets much closer to the backstrap. Combined with the heaviness, roughness, and stacking, this promotes torquing the trigger towards the end of the pull, inevitably causing pinching.
Long story short: the DAK is one of, if not the best, triggers ever made. It’s smoother than any stock DA/SA, has a consistent pull whether you’re shooting fast or slow, an even pull without stacking, and it breaks earlier, preventing finger pinching. In fact, the trigger is so smooth that you won’t even feel the wall-you’ll be pulling, and before you realize it, the shot has already broken. All of this makes for one of the most accurate out-of-the-box pistols you can get without any modifications.
In comparison, a DA/SA needs to be sent to a place like Grayguns for action cleanup and trigger refinement to even approach the smoothness of the DAK. I plan to do this for my DA/SA because I don’t want to sell it. Once they work on it, I expect the trigger to be on par with the DAK. However, if I had to choose between my DA/SA Sig or my DAK Sig, I’d choose the DAK every time. Even after upgrading the DA/SA, I’ll likely still prefer the DAK.
Remember, when training with the DAK, always release the trigger all the way to the second reset before firing for the optimal and recommended experience at just 6-6.5 lbs of pull weight. If you stop at the first reset, it will increase to 8-10 lbs-still smooth, but noticeably heavier.
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hey just because my car is showing a little wear and tear there's no need to go and shoot it.
hell yeah
Dos disparos no es nada
There’s something about shooting an old car that just feels right.
Hell yeah!
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